View Full Version : War Machine,the guy who beat up Christy Mack, could face lifetime prison
imnew09
09-04-2014, 03:52 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2014-09-03/war-machine-arrested-christy-mack-jon-koppenhaver-assault-battery-ufc-mma-bellator?eadid=SOC/FB/SNMain
DAMN, what a turning point in life. Instead of banging a prnstar everyday, he might end up in prison for life time...
Lebron23
09-04-2014, 03:56 AM
The guy is a douchebag, and an @$$hole. I think he might pull an Edwin Valero, and hang himself in jail.
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 03:59 AM
He should not get life in prison. What he did is not equivalent to murder or manslaughter. It is bad but lets not get stupid here. It should be a couple of years in jail and get out on probation.
Public outrage and public opinion has already condemned him. He will not get a fair trial. It doesn't help that the judge is pretty hot and probably sympathize with another fellow hot chick in Mack.
stalkerforlife
09-04-2014, 04:12 AM
Why is he charged with attempted murder? If he wanted her dead, she'd be dead.
JohnFreeman
09-04-2014, 04:14 AM
Life in prison? wtf America
chosen_one6
09-04-2014, 04:14 AM
He should not get life in prison. What he did is not equivalent to murder or manslaughter. It is bad but lets not get stupid here. It should be a couple of years in jail and get out on probation.
Public outrage and public opinion has already condemned him. He will not get a fair trial. It doesn't help that the judge is pretty hot and probably sympathize with another fellow hot chick in Mack.
You do know that he has a history of violent behavior right?
Not only that, but I think he's mentally ill. He lived with Mack in the neighborhood that I live in now. Word around here is that dude was weird as f*ck. Bi-polar, multiple personality disorder, whatever you want to call it.
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 04:25 AM
You do know that he has a history of violent behavior right?
Not only that, but I think he's mentally ill. He lived with Mack in the neighborhood that I live in now. Word around here is that dude was weird as f*ck. Bi-polar, multiple personality disorder, whatever you want to call it.
He may be a little odd but he is not stupid. In fact, I think he is a pretty intelligent person. When he was in jail the last time, he wrote countless papers that were published into blogs. It is very interesting to read what he has to say.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/21/deep-thoughts-from-war-machine-s-sexist-racist-prison-blog.html
For a guy being so blunt and honest, I honestly believe him when he said he never intended to beat Christy Mack like that. He was probably provoked.
Let's think about it for one second. You are going to tell me that Mack jumped a fence with broken ribs and a lacerated liver? Yea right.
So far we have heard her story and not his.
I urge people to read some of his blogs and try to tell me with a straight face that there isn't some of the truth in it.
His biggest mistake was hooking up with Mack.
East_Stone_Ya
09-04-2014, 04:31 AM
nah he won't get lifetime
chosen_one6
09-04-2014, 04:37 AM
He may be a little odd but he is not stupid. In fact, I think he is a pretty intelligent person. When he was in jail the last time, he wrote countless papers that were published into blogs. It is very interesting to read what he has to say.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/21/deep-thoughts-from-war-machine-s-sexist-racist-prison-blog.html
For a guy being so blunt and honest, I honestly believe him when he said he never intended to beat Christy Mack like that. He was probably provoked.
Let's think about it for one second. You are going to tell me that Mack jumped a fence with broken ribs and a lacerated liver? Yea right.
So far we have heard her story and not his.
I urge people to read some of his blogs and try to tell me with a straight face that there isn't some of the truth in it.
His biggest mistake was hooking up with Mack.
Even mentally ill people can be intelligent in other areas of life. Look at autistic children that are great at different forms of art or math. That doesn't take away from the fact that the guy is a loose cannon.
I don't really care about the peculiarities of Mack's story. The end result is pretty clear and this guy needs to be locked up for a while with a lot of treatment.
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 04:47 AM
Even mentally ill people can be intelligent in other areas of life. Look at autistic children that are great at different forms of art or math. That doesn't take away from the fact that the guy is a loose cannon.
I don't really care about the peculiarities of Mack's story. The end result is pretty clear and this guy needs to be locked up for a while with a lot of treatment.
End results? I like to look at the events that caused the end results.
Mack releases a statement and people jump all over it and believer her but when War Machine tweeted that he was "fighting for his life", nobody believes him?
Is it not reasonable to believe that she came after him with a knife and he had to subdue her?
Once again, we will never get the truth.
I will give Mack credit for one thing though, she knew how to manipulate social media to favor her side of the story.
BigTicket
09-04-2014, 04:49 AM
Life in prison is too long, but he should get at least 10 years, probably more. He didn't kill her, but he might have if she didn't manage to escape when he went to get a knife.
At a bare minimum this is two counts of aggravated assault + various related charges, and he has several prior convictions for assault. This guy is seriously dangerous, and he should be off the streets before he does kill someone.
SunsN07BookIt
09-04-2014, 04:51 AM
The guy is a full blown retard. The longer he is prohibited from contributing to the gene pool the better.
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 05:11 AM
You guys shouldn't be watching too much porn of the same girl. You guys that side with Mack are similar to those "Johns" out there that gets the same hooker every night and end up falling in love with them.
I know a lot of you may have the same syndrome because of the easy access to pron. Suddenly the only love life you have is her videos.
I am not saying don't watch porn but you guys should watch randoms one so you don't end up falling for them because it will cloud people's judgement about the case at hand.
SunsN07BookIt
09-04-2014, 06:09 AM
You guys shouldn't be watching too much porn of the same girl. You guys that side with Mack are similar to those "Johns" out there that gets the same hooker every night and end up falling in love with them.
I know a lot of you may have the same syndrome because of the easy access to pron. Suddenly the only love life you have is her videos.
I am not saying don't watch porn but you guys should watch randoms one so you don't end up falling for them because it will cloud people's judgement about the case at hand.
http://i.imgur.com/sALd83d.jpg
Jameerthefear
09-04-2014, 06:37 AM
Life in prison is too long, but he should get at least 10 years, probably more. He didn't kill her, but he might have if she didn't manage to escape when he went to get a knife.
At a bare minimum this is two counts of aggravated assault + various related charges, and he has several prior convictions for assault. This guy is seriously dangerous, and he should be off the streets before he does kill someone.
You actually believe her story?
JohnFreeman
09-04-2014, 07:02 AM
You actually believe her story?
She is a pornstar and not to be trusted.
KevinNYC
09-04-2014, 07:59 AM
She is a pornstar and not to be trusted.
?
Do you believe the felon instead?
JohnFreeman
09-04-2014, 08:05 AM
?
Do you believe the felon instead?
I am kidding, I don't care about the case at all
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 08:20 AM
?
Do you believe the felon instead?
A felon does not mean liar bro.
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 09:30 AM
That absolutely was attempted murder... Her whole body is broken, busted organs, etc
Life in prison is very fitting, not sure why anyone would feel sorry for him.
Godzuki
09-04-2014, 09:52 AM
they should have forced him to use his current legal name. would be funny to hear them referring to the defendant as War Machine :lol
it obviously makes it worse for him if they use that name but its his LEGAL name. this is a LEGAL proceeding.
i can also see the defense going into past history abuse and shit like that for sympathy, its really his only/best defense. u could probably make up a really sad story for why he's so angry beating everyone up all of the time.
Real Men Wear Green
09-04-2014, 10:31 AM
Life in prison is too long, but he should get at least 10 years, probably more. He didn't kill her, but he might have if she didn't manage to escape when he went to get a knife.
If her story is true and her injuries are real there Is no reason to allow this guy to roam free ever again.
sweggeh
09-04-2014, 10:46 AM
If her story is true and her injuries are real there Is no reason to allow this guy to roam free ever again.
Thing is, a lot of her lies have already been exposed. She said she was just hanging with a friend, turns out they were in bed. She said she broke up with War Machine months ago, turned out they were dating just 3 weeks prior. What else is she lying about I wonder.
TheMan
09-04-2014, 11:06 AM
Thing is, a lot of her lies have already been exposed. She said she was just hanging with a friend, turns out they were in bed. She said she broke up with War Machine months ago, turned out they were dating just 3 weeks prior. What else is she lying about I wonder.
Let's say she did lie about that and more, still doesn't give him the right to beat her and the other dude. BTW, the guy has a long history of violence, he's assaulted other people, it was never his fault, poor guy was always being provoked :oldlol:
While I agree life is too harsh, he needs to get locked up for a long time, not just for a couple of years, this dude is a walking time bomb and a menace to society.
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 11:12 AM
She's a liar and this is how I know, she went to describe the entire incident with great detail but didn't mention how the knife got into the bathroom in the first place. She also went into a detail account of hearing him go into the kitchen to grab another knife.
She went into great lengths and detail to describe the events but left out others.
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 11:21 AM
Why are morons defending War Machine?...he beat her nearly to death, doesn't matter if she somehow managed to open her door while in bed with another man.
Let him rot in jail until he dies...throw away the key...this world is a better place without him
Jailblazers7
09-04-2014, 11:39 AM
Dude is a legitimate danger to public safety. A psycho with advanced MMA training and a history of criminal violence? Yeah, I'm not going to fight for his freedom.
Bandito
09-04-2014, 11:46 AM
SO what is his version of the story?
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 11:48 AM
SO what is his version of the story?
who cares SHE IS LYING WHORE !!!! :mad:
she beat herself up...
9erempiree
09-04-2014, 11:50 AM
You're going to tell me a brutally beaten up woman with broken ribs and lacerations to vital organs is going to run and jump a freaking fence and be able to knock on doors for help with 2 swollen eyes? What is she Wonder Woman?
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 11:56 AM
You're going to tell me a brutally beaten up woman with broken ribs and lacerations to vital organs is going to run and jump a freaking fence and be able to knock on doors for help with 2 swollen eyes? What is she Wonder Woman?
that part is proven to have happened :facepalm
all of her injuries are real and the doors she knocked on the the people that called the ambulance...
Real Men Wear Green
09-04-2014, 11:56 AM
Thing is, a lot of her lies have already been exposed. She said she was just hanging with a friend, turns out they were in bed. She said she broke up with War Machine months ago, turned out they were dating just 3 weeks prior. What else is she lying about I wonder.
3Weeks versus a month? Who cares? Nor is it important what she was doing with this guy when Mr Machine busted in. He does not have the legal right to hit her for having sex (and would be pretty stupid to be surprised given her profession).
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 12:04 PM
It DOESN'T sound unjustified
The first thing I posted in the original Christy Mack thread was "he should be convicted of attempted murder"
MavsSuperFan
09-04-2014, 12:09 PM
they should have forced him to use his current legal name. would be funny to hear them referring to the defendant as War Machine :lol
it obviously makes it worse for him if they use that name but its his LEGAL name. this is a LEGAL proceeding.
i can also see the defense going into past history abuse and shit like that for sympathy, its really his only/best defense. u could probably make up a really sad story for why he's so angry beating everyone up all of the time.
iirc after he was sued by marvel and told to stop using war machine as a nickname he legally changed his name to war machine so he could continue to use War Machine
MavsSuperFan
09-04-2014, 12:11 PM
Why are morons defending War Machine?...he beat her nearly to death, doesn't matter if she somehow managed to open her door while in bed with another man.
Let him rot in jail until he dies...throw away the key...this world is a better place without him
This is the internet and further a site that is at least 90%+ male, half of these guys have issues with women and will side with the male in any female vs male issue.
KevinNYC
09-04-2014, 12:13 PM
You're going to tell me a brutally beaten up woman with broken ribs and lacerations to vital organs is going to run and jump a freaking fence and be able to knock on doors for help with 2 swollen eyes? What is she Wonder Woman?
If she had a lacerated rib that is going to be easily verifiable by her medical records.
If she turned up a neighbor's house for help that is going to be easily verifiable by the police report.
Just because you doubt something or can't imagine it something is true, doesn't mean it didn't happen. In fact, they have a name for that logical fallacy. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance#Argument_from_incredulity. 2FLack_of_imagination)
I know a woman who was almost raped, but she was able to get away when the guy grabbed her and she said if asked me to do that right now, there's no way I could move that fast and break his grip.
Why are morons defending War Machine?...
the answer to your question in bold
ImKobe
09-04-2014, 12:23 PM
9er http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/H6ofe.png hard for a mentally unstable person
http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/heh.png
kentatm
09-04-2014, 12:23 PM
For a guy being so blunt and honest, I honestly believe him when he said he never intended to beat Christy Mack like that. He was probably provoked.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
jesus ****ing christ your white knighting for this thug POS is god damn pathetic
Jailblazers7
09-04-2014, 12:26 PM
Can we get a running man type situation goin?
That is something that I would be willing to fight for.
Jailblazers7
09-04-2014, 12:29 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
jesus ****ing christ your white knighting for this thug POS is god damn pathetic
Believing his statement makes him an even more unsympathetic person lol. So he is a psycho MMA fighter who has no impulse control and might murder a woman with his bare hands because he was "provoked?"
Bandito
09-04-2014, 12:32 PM
You're going to tell me a brutally beaten up woman with broken ribs and lacerations to vital organs is going to run and jump a freaking fence and be able to knock on doors for help with 2 swollen eyes? What is she Wonder Woman?
In normal circumstances probably not. But when you are desperate (like when someone is trying to kill you) you tend to find the unused strength you have in your body to do impossible things. There is a name for that term but I don't remember the name.
Could be abnormal strength (like the pornstar way of climbing a fence while being hurt)
or more abnormal speed or who knows what else.
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 12:34 PM
In normal circumstances probably not. But when you are desperate (like when someone is trying to kill you) you tend to find the unused strength you have in your body to do impossible things. There is a name for that term but I don't remember the name.
Could be abnormal strength (like the pornstar way of climbing a fence while being hurt)
or more abnormal speed or who knows what else.
Your body releases adrenaline when it knows serious shit is going down...
Bandito
09-04-2014, 12:36 PM
Your body releases adrenaline when it knows serious shit is going down...
That is the reason, but I was referring to the term. Is like a desperate use of abnormal strength. It is not important as long as people understood what I meant.
That is the reason, but I was referring to the term. Is like a desperate use of abnormal strength. It is not important as long as people understood what I meant.
"fight or flight"
full on survival mode
ace23
09-04-2014, 12:51 PM
ITT: people surprised at the possibility of life in prison for rape and attempted murder.
I'm fine with him going to prison for life. He is repeatedly being a scumbag when out in society.
Levity
09-04-2014, 03:10 PM
SO what is his version of the story?
he thought he was in the hunger games.
oarabbus
09-04-2014, 03:42 PM
You're going to tell me a brutally beaten up woman with broken ribs and lacerations to vital organs is going to run and jump a freaking fence and be able to knock on doors for help with 2 swollen eyes? What is she Wonder Woman?
Did you live a really sheltered life? When people are near death or fearful of death then YES they are going to do that shit are you ****ing serious right now? He didn't cut off her legs did he? :coleman:
And the term Bandito is looking for is hysterical strength.
Bandito
09-04-2014, 03:51 PM
Did you live a really sheltered life? When people are near death or fearful of death then YES they are going to do that shit are you ****ing serious right now? He didn't cut off her legs did he? :coleman:
And the term Bandito is looking for is hysterical strength.
Yes that's it.:applause:
ThePhantomCreep
09-04-2014, 05:47 PM
I really hope 9er is trolling. No one can far in life with such poor critical thinking skills.
outbreak
09-04-2014, 05:56 PM
Wait, hasn't he been in prison previously for drug offences and violent assaults? Then he tries to rape and allegedly murder (with irrefutable evidence he beat her close to death regardless of if he was actually wanting to kill her like she said) and people are surprised he is facing life?
Jameerthefear
09-04-2014, 06:30 PM
Might sound unjustified but a woman's life is likely being saved from this decision. Scumbag has a history of abusing women.
uh what
outbreak
09-04-2014, 06:35 PM
uh what
He has a history, if he's on the streets again who knows what he does to the next woman he's with.
ThePhantomCreep
09-04-2014, 06:40 PM
He has a history, if he's on the streets again who knows what he does to the next woman he's with.
Yeah, but Christy Mack does icky stuff with her private parts. Free War Machine!
outbreak
09-04-2014, 06:40 PM
Yeah, but Christy Mack does icky stuff with her private parts. Free War Machine!
Oh yeah, I forgot that some males think if a woman's a whore she doesn't have rights and deserve what she gets. Yet if a male bangs hundreds of women he's a champion.
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 06:58 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot that some males think if a woman's a whore she doesn't have rights and deserve what she gets. Yet if a male bangs hundreds of women he's a champion.
Also if you were born with a tiny ***** that means all women deserve to be beaten to death...fckin whores
outbreak
09-04-2014, 07:02 PM
Also if you were born with a tiny ***** that means all women deserve to be beaten to death...fckin whores
unless of course you are born into a trust fund and have enough money to make you feel superior to other males.
Jameerthefear
09-04-2014, 07:03 PM
Also if you were born with a tiny ***** that means all women deserve to be beaten to death...fckin whores
:rolleyes:
get a grip.
~primetime~
09-04-2014, 07:08 PM
:rolleyes:
get a grip.
these whores don't even know it's the motion in the ocean, not the size of the ship...fckin bitches
outbreak
09-04-2014, 07:09 PM
:rolleyes:
get a grip.
I believe issues with not being able to get a grip on their ***** are one of the reasons they beat women. Good observation.
Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to victim blame here, but the entire scene around War Machine including Christy Mack disgusts me just as much as the man himself.
The organisations he worked with. The tv show he was on. The agents he's had. They should have gone up to him and told him "Look son, this martial arts thing isn't for you. You are a decent fighter, but you are messed up. You really need some intensive mental and socialization therapy. Because assaulting random people in the street for giving you the stink eye is going to ruin your life".
The same with his brother. What does his brother do after "War Machine" comes out of prison the second time following the third assault he's been convicted of (comitting many more than that, obviously)? Start up the "Alpha Male" company where they try to benefit of the image that they "do alpha male shit". What in the actual ****?
And Christy Mack. They had an interview together where they actually joked around about how he was going to kill her if they ever separated. She actually thought that's a funny joke to make with her boyfriend who's gone to prison for assault multiple times. She really thought it was a fine idea to let him tattoo her name on his neck, and for herself to tattoo "Property of War Machine" on her body. This unstable, aggressive, deranged guy? None of this sounded like a bad idea?
War Machine is pretty much as close as you can get for the human equivalent of a fighting pitbull who has to be put down after biting his owner. The guy is dumb as a bag of bricks and all his life the people close to him professionally, his family and his partners have goaded him on to be as aggressive, dangerous and unreasonable as possible.
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