Federer downs 2-0 and faces two match points, but comes back to win... [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

InfiniteBaskets

09-04-2014, 11:49 PM

Federer's draw from hell, won't face anyone higher than a 14 seed till the Final :roll:

They even made sure the guy who beat him last year was in the other half. Try not to make it so obvious :oldlol:

The Slam draws are always confusing to me. It seems they always put the 1 seed and the 3 seed in the same side, and the 2 and the 4 in the other. Why does the 1 seed technically play a better opponent than the 2 seed? Never made any sense to me.

But to be fair, there was absolutely no way Fed and Djoker were going to be in the same half after Nadal pulled out. Murray just hasn't played well enough this year to warrant a seed over Federer. The only other choice was Wawrinka, but they slotted him 3rd. Although Djokavic won't even have to play him in the end.

I'm expecting another Djokavic title, but who knows. Maybe Roger will get lucky off his serves or something. Fed's still good enough to win 1 out of every 8 or so matches against Djoker I'd imagine.

Sarcastic

09-04-2014, 11:58 PM

stalkerforlife

09-04-2014, 11:59 PM

Monfils hadn't lost a set until he met Federer.

Dude was at the top of his game.

Sarcastic

09-05-2014, 12:37 AM

Monfils hadn't lost a set until he met Federer.

Dude was at the top of his game.

Who did he play?

BurningHammer

09-05-2014, 12:43 AM

Who did he play?
Monfils beat Gasquet and Dimitrov, both are decent, in straight sets, and was about to do the same against Fed.

bdreason

09-05-2014, 02:14 AM

Legendary performance from a legend.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Sarcastic

09-05-2014, 02:20 AM

Monfils beat Gasquet and Dimitrov, both are decent, in straight sets, and was about to do the same against Fed.

So basically nobodies. At least no one that has ever even reached a GS final.

BurningHammer

09-05-2014, 02:27 AM

So basically nobodies. At least no one that has ever even reached a GS final.
Gasquet and Dimitrov are among top 20 in ATP ranking (14th and 8th respectively). They are not that nobodies.

bdreason

09-05-2014, 02:28 AM

So basically nobodies. At least no one that has ever even reached a GS final.

Don't be bitter because your boy Rafa can't even show up for GS's despite being in the middle of his prime. Straight set victories against Gasquet and Dimitrov is impressive for ANYONE. I believe Rafa dropped sets to Monfils, Dimitrov, and Gasquet this year.

bdreason

09-05-2014, 02:29 AM

Gasquet and Dimitrov are among top 20 in ATP ranking (14th and 8th respectively). They are not that nobodies.

He's just bitter because his supposed GOAT can't even show up for GS's while old-man Federer continues to rack up wins, and will finish the year ranked #2 in the World, ahead of PRIME Nadal.

enayes

09-05-2014, 02:55 AM

I saw this live, it was a great match.

It was awesome to see Federer save those 2 match points but I did feel a little bad for Monfils, he was sooo close :banghead:

Sarcastic

09-05-2014, 03:09 AM

Gasquet and Dimitrov are among top 20 in ATP ranking (14th and 8th respectively). They are not that nobodies.

Nobody that can actually win the tournament though.

dunksby

09-05-2014, 04:00 AM

Nobody that can actually win the tournament though.
Did you expect him to play title favorites in early rounds? :lol

Sarcastic

09-05-2014, 08:41 AM

Did you expect him to play title favorites in early rounds? :lol

Didn't Djoker just play Andy Murray? :lol

imdaman99

09-05-2014, 09:26 AM

Nobody that can actually win the tournament though.
Isn't it amazing that all the people that are capable of winning slams are in Djokos half of the draw? I'm talking about guys that have won a slam already like Murray and Wawrinka? Granted, there aren't many, but both were on the other side :oldlol: both those guys are dangerous to Djoko as well, having beaten him recently in slams. They really are trying hard to get Fed his 18th. Imagine if Nishikori beats Djokovic? :roll:

Feds draw from hell. Manufacture his story book ending even though he won't retire anytime soon.

stalkerforlife

09-05-2014, 12:44 PM

Is it me, or did Monfils talk a lot of trash? Maybe he was talking to himself?

All his talking seemed to amp Federer up.

And I saw KG there rooting for Monfils.

dunksby

09-05-2014, 01:23 PM

Didn't Djoker just play Andy Murray? :lol
In Quarter finals? :lol

Sarcastic

09-05-2014, 02:08 PM

In Quarter finals? :lol

That's the point :lol
Djoker has already played someone that was a much greater threat to win than Federer did. Murray even in a down year, is better than Monfils, Gasquet, or Dimitrov.

enayes

09-05-2014, 04:08 PM

That's the point :lol
Djoker has already played someone that was a much greater threat to win than Federer did. Murray even in a down year, is better than Monfils, Gasquet, or Dimitrov.

That's only because Murray is the 8 seed, Monfils defeated the 7 sees Dmitrov who would have faced Federer.

What's the point of whining about the draw?

Milbuck

09-05-2014, 06:18 PM

Clownfils gonna clownfils. Literally any decent player in the top 20 on a good day could've taken 2 sets off of Federer yesterday. He played like shit the first 2 sets, upped his game a bit for the next 3, while Monfils ran out of steam and eventually crumbled.

Djokovic will RUIN Federer if he shows up with the game he brought against Monfils.

It really is a joke how easy Fed's draw is..if only Nadal and Delpo were there.

Milbuck

09-05-2014, 06:21 PM

Isn't it amazing that all the people that are capable of winning slams are in Djokos half of the draw? I'm talking about guys that have won a slam already like Murray and Wawrinka? Granted, there aren't many, but both were on the other side :oldlol: both those guys are dangerous to Djoko as well, having beaten him recently in slams. They really are trying hard to get Fed his 18th. Imagine if Nishikori beats Djokovic? :roll:

Feds draw from hell. Manufacture his story book ending even though he won't retire anytime soon.
It isn't likely, but Nishikori is no joke. The dude is a legit top 10 talent in the world..he took out an in-form Wawrinka in 5 right after winning another marathon 5 setter against Raonic.

Nishikori is vastly better than ANYONE on Fed's side of the draw. Monfils is good when he's on but he's also one of the most unreliable players and biggest chokers on the tour. If he's your toughest opponent in your half..it's a joke half.

raiderfan19

09-05-2014, 07:44 PM

It isn't likely, but Nishikori is no joke. The dude is a legit top 10 talent in the world..he took out an in-form Wawrinka in 5 right after winning another marathon 5 setter against Raonic.

Nishikori is vastly better than ANYONE on Fed's side of the draw. Monfils is good when he's on but he's also one of the most unreliable players and biggest chokers on the tour. If he's your toughest opponent in your half..it's a joke half.
This is just utterly ridiculous

Milbuck

09-05-2014, 07:53 PM

This is just utterly ridiculous
Explain to me what part of my post was ridiculous.

Kei just took out the world #6 and the world #3/AO champion in back-to-back 5 setters. Not a single guy in Fed's half compares to Nishikori as he has played the last couple matches.

The version of Kei that took out Wawrinka would've taken out Fed in 4 max. The way Fed was playing against Monfils..I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a straight sets win for Kei.

Unless you're assuming I meant Nishikori would beat Djokovic...which is not what I was saying at all.

bdreason

09-05-2014, 11:48 PM

What's the point of whining about the draw?

The Nadal apologists are grasping at straws trying to explain why old-man Federer will end the season ranked higher than prime Nadal... again.

NBAplayoffs2001

09-05-2014, 11:50 PM

monfils = mental midget .. talented but that's why he'll never win a major ..

federer gets down 2 sets .. no problem .. doesn't get down .. comes back .. monfils gets broken at 5-5 in the 4th and he folds like a chair after giving such a good effort .. loses 6-2 in the fifth

monfils return position :roll: :roll: :roll:

the coke during the 4th :oldlol: :oldlol: :lol :lol

NBAplayoffs2001

09-05-2014, 11:51 PM

Explain to me what part of my post was ridiculous.

Kei just took out the world #6 and the world #3/AO champion in back-to-back 5 setters. Not a single guy in Fed's half compares to Nishikori as he has played the last couple matches.

The version of Kei that took out Wawrinka would've taken out Fed in 4 max. The way Fed was playing against Monfils..I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was a straight sets win for Kei.

Unless you're assuming I meant Nishikori would beat Djokovic...which is not what I was saying at all.

omg fed was playing so bad honestly until the end of the 4th. monfils had a cakewalk of a match until fed turned it on.

raiderfan19

09-06-2014, 12:21 AM

What was ridiculous is that he's not better than several people who were in feds half of the draw.

Also baby fed will win slams. The fact that he hasnt done so doesn't mean that he's incapable of doing so anymore than the fact that Stan hadn't won one meant he couldn't win the ao this year.

There have been a lot of upsets this year but acting like there was no one in his side of the draw is ridiculous.

Sarcastic

09-06-2014, 12:57 AM

6 of the top 10 seeds on Djokovic's side - Djokovic, Wawrinka, Raonic, Murray, Tsonga, Nishikori. They made sure Fed had the path of least resistance.

Milbuck

09-06-2014, 01:05 AM

The Nadal apologists are grasping at straws trying to explain why old-man Federer will end the season ranked higher than prime Nadal... again.
No, it's calling a cakewalk draw what it is...a cakewalk draw. His toughest opponent before the final is either Monfils or Cilic :oldlol:

Meanwhile Djokovic the #1 gets to face Murray in the QF..
What was ridiculous is that he's not better than several people who were in feds half of the draw.

Also baby fed will win slams. The fact that he hasnt done so doesn't mean that he's incapable of doing so anymore than the fact that Stan hadn't won one meant he couldn't win the ao this year.

There have been a lot of upsets this year but acting like there was no one in his side of the draw is ridiculous.
Except that he is. I'm sorry if you haven't been watching the tournament..but Nishikori is clearly better than anyone on Fed's half. Dimitrov on a good day might be better, but he hasn't exactly been playing his best tennis at all this tournament. And saying he will win a slam in the future is irrelevant, because he hasn't done it yet nor is he good enough to do it. Wawrinka before he won the AO was playing at a slam champion level...he did it in 2013 when he pushed Djokovic to 5 in that epic match, same thing in 2013 USO against Novak again. Even when he beat Novak in 2014 before the final, he hadn't won it...but he was playing at a slam level. Dimitrov has never once even approached Stan's best level.

And Nishi just took Stan out...he beat the #6 and #3 in back-to-back 5-set marathons.. If you can't respect that, I don't know what to tell you.

Milbuck

09-06-2014, 01:06 AM

6 of the top 10 seeds on Djokovic's side - Djokovic, Wawrinka, Raonic, Murray, Tsonga, Nishikori. They made sure Fed had the path of least resistance.
Fed plays Bautista Agut, Monfils, and Cilic on the way to the final (if he makes it) and somehow it's blasphemous to call his draw weak :oldlol:

dude77

09-06-2014, 01:08 AM

The Nadal apologists are grasping at straws trying to explain why old-man Federer will end the season ranked higher than prime Nadal... again.

lol good for federer .. but that's no knock on nadal .. you lose ranking if you're not playing .. it's not entirely related to his play .. and why would you even make that post ? .. nadal owns federer .. I mean federer is literally his bitch

dude77

09-06-2014, 01:10 AM

monfils return position :roll: :roll: :roll:

the coke during the 4th :oldlol: :oldlol: :lol :lol

yeah wtf is up with the coke thing .. no discipline .. what's next .. having a little mickey d snack ? .. makes you think he doesn't take his profession seriously

Warfan

09-06-2014, 01:13 AM

Yes it's all rigged for federer :oldlol:

Hopefully there's a Wimbledon rematch, fed needs to get his revenge :pimp:

GatorKid117

09-06-2014, 01:37 AM

Fed plays Bautista Agut, Monfils, and Cilic on the way to the final (if he makes it) and somehow it's blasphemous to call his draw weak :oldlol:

No its more of the fact that you will hold anything and everything against Federer to downplay whatever he accomplishes.

Monfils had not lost a set before he played Fed and destroyed Dmitrov who made 2 Semi's and a Quarter this year in the major tournmanets. Yet all you do is downplay their skills and accomplishments.

And Nishikori is not VASTLY better than anyone on Fed's draw. You would not have made this statement before the tournament. Were the draw makers supposed to know that he would be playing as well as he is? You can't use recent play as a justification to say things are rigged. Sometimes guys get hot, it happens.

And even if all these players on Djoko's side are so superior to Fed's side then they must have rigged Wimbledon for Djoko then. Wawrinka, Nadal, Nishikori, Raonic; all on Fed's side.

Meanwhile, Djoko only had Murray (and Tsonga I guess). Clearly Dmitrov, Ferrer, Cilic, and Berdych (who were on Djoko's side during Wimbledon) are nobodies and and inferior to the likes of Nishikori and company. Where is the outrage from you during Wimbledon for the rigged draw?

Ridiculous.

Sarcastic

09-06-2014, 03:43 AM

Monfils had not lost a set before he played Fed and destroyed Dmitrov who made 2 Semi's and a Quarter this year in the major tournmanets. Yet all you do is downplay their skills and accomplishments.

:no:

Making up fake results now?

Ridiculous.

GatorKid117

09-06-2014, 05:12 AM

:no:

Making up fake results now?

Ridiculous.

I misread his player profile results. My apologies. 1 semi and 1 quarter and multiple other titles. Still detracts nothing from my point that he has had a great year which is all I was trying to get across.

dunksby

09-06-2014, 06:43 AM

That's the point :lol
Djoker has already played someone that was a much greater threat to win than Federer did. Murray even in a down year, is better than Monfils, Gasquet, or Dimitrov.
I'm a big Novak fan and I'm not mad about the draw, Novak himself hasn't expressed anything but enthusiasm. Why are you bitching about it?

imdaman99

09-06-2014, 10:55 AM

lol good for federer .. but that's no knock on nadal .. you lose ranking if you're not playing .. it's not entirely related to his play .. and why would you even make that post ? .. nadal owns federer .. I mean federer is literally his bitch
That guy is hilarious. He must have popped champagne when Fed snuck in his cheap French Open win and proceeded to celebrate Nadal's end. He is celebrating Nadal's injury problems right now saying Fed is going to be #2 as if that will help him sleep better at night. Nadal lost so many points since he dominated the North American swing last year, so of course he was going to lose his #2.

Somehow you can still be GOAT even though you have been someone's btch all your career to the tune of 10-23 :roll:
Since he can't beat him, he needs some young gun to take Nadal out. Or injury. That's the biggest reason Fed is gonna make back to back slam finals.

NBAplayoffs2001

09-06-2014, 11:00 AM

Yes it's all rigged for federer :oldlol:

Hopefully there's a Wimbledon rematch, fed needs to get his revenge :pimp:

I couldn't stand Mcenroe's commentating that night. I'm sorry but HE has been in love with Federer since like 2003. The 2004 Wimbledon match is a perfect example of him showing his love for Fed and Roddick (IMO post US Open 2004, Roddick was never the same power player he used to be).

Eat Like A Bosh

09-06-2014, 02:25 PM

He wasn't the goat for no reason

Sarcastic

09-06-2014, 03:07 PM

Monfils > Nishikori :roll:

Fed will likely get his 18th now.

alenleomessi

09-06-2014, 03:16 PM

'he should retire doe'

imdaman99

09-06-2014, 03:18 PM

Fed with that cakewalk :roll:

How overrated is so called goat when he needs someone else to beat the guys he can't beat :roll:

Nishikori is beast, he plays a little like Djokovic. It's a shame he will be a sacrificial lamb to manufacture a swan song.

Milbuck

09-06-2014, 03:20 PM

LMFAO @ the idiot that said I was ridiculous for saying Nishikori > anyone on Fed's half of the draw.

Just LOL.

imdaman99

09-06-2014, 03:23 PM

LMFAO @ the idiot that said I was ridiculous for saying Nishikori > anyone on Fed's half of the draw.

Just LOL.
Nishikori is not a mental midget like EVERYONE in Fed's half.
Wawrinka is not either.
Murray can be, but he's already a slam winner.

Meanwhile the only tough matchup Fed could have had was Berdych, and that guy is mental tyrion.

RagaZ

09-06-2014, 03:26 PM

When was the last time a player won a Grand Slam without beating any of the "Big 4" members on the way?

bdreason

09-06-2014, 04:24 PM

That guy is hilarious. He must have popped champagne when Fed snuck in his cheap French Open win and proceeded to celebrate Nadal's end. He is celebrating Nadal's injury problems right now saying Fed is going to be #2 as if that will help him sleep better at night. Nadal lost so many points since he dominated the North American swing last year, so of course he was going to lose his #2.

Somehow you can still be GOAT even though you have been someone's btch all your career to the tune of 10-23 :roll:
Since he can't beat him, he needs some young gun to take Nadal out. Or injury. That's the biggest reason Fed is gonna make back to back slam finals.

Calm down buddy. T-Mac errr I mean Nadal will be back for the clay court season. He never misses that. :oldlol:

Milbuck

09-06-2014, 04:35 PM

Calm down buddy. T-Mac errr I mean Nadal will be back for the clay court season. He never misses that. :oldlol:
Clay court season? Why the pessimism? Nadal has wiped his ass with Federer on all grand slam surfaces for 6 years now.

imdaman99

09-06-2014, 04:53 PM

Calm down buddy. T-Mac errr I mean Nadal will be back for the clay court season. He never misses that. :oldlol:
Nadal has more Slams on grass than Federer has on clay :oldlol:

What's worse is that Nadal went through Fed to get 1 and would have done it in 2010 again if Fed didn't blow it to Berdy, while Fed snuck one in by avoiding Nadal. TMac has 0 rings, while Nadal has 14. It's a lame comparison. When you dominate your rival, that's hardly TMac'ish.

Enjoy #18 with a draw from hell though :cheers:

Didn't play a single #'d seed :bowdown:

Sarcastic

09-06-2014, 05:34 PM

Cilic up 2 sets to 0 on Fed.

*Patiently waiting for Fed fans to call Cilic the greatest server ever.

Qwyjibo

09-06-2014, 05:37 PM

This thread is really amusing. Fed superfans and idiot haters both with ridiculous arguments.

The draw is what it is. The players have no control over it. Fed had a relatively easy road but that wouldn't diminish a win if he does win (not looking likely right now). Winning a Grand Slam, any way you do it is a huge accomplishment. But people will look for any reason to shit all over it if it's a player/team they don't like.

As for the other side of the draw, it's just crappy luck that very talented players have either stunk it up this year and dropped in the rankings (Murray) or had injuries (Nishikori). Not to mention that Nadal and Del Potro didn't even play.

BigBoss

09-06-2014, 05:38 PM

Down 2-0 again...

Sarcastic

09-06-2014, 06:02 PM

alenleomessi

09-06-2014, 06:04 PM

im afraid there is no coming back for this

NBAplayoffs2001

09-06-2014, 06:05 PM

Down 2-0 again...

Woah I had no idea they were playing today. Did Cilic get like a brain transplant and get Goran Ivanisveic's Wimby 2001 brain? He used to be so one dimensional. :lol :lol :lol

alenleomessi

09-06-2014, 06:12 PM

cilic would have smoked anyone with this performance today

imdaman99

09-06-2014, 06:12 PM

Straight-setted. I figured he'd be out for blood after he saw Djoko go down.

Either way, another slam-less year.

bdreason

09-06-2014, 06:15 PM

Impressive performance from Cilic. Gonna be a good final. :applause:

Milbuck

09-06-2014, 06:48 PM

Oh **** yes. Kei gonna win his first slam?

Either way new champion guaranteed, damn.

NBAplayoffs2001

09-06-2014, 06:51 PM

Straight-setted. I figured he'd be out for blood after he saw Djoko go down.

Either way, another slam-less year.
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Yes, I don't like Federer because I was a die-hard Roddick fan... any tennis fan could tell why I don't like Fed.

enayes

09-06-2014, 08:10 PM

LMFAO @ the idiot that said I was ridiculous for saying Nishikori > anyone on Fed's half of the draw.

Just LOL.

Nishikori has had a good year but it is ridiculous to make a claim like the one above. Don't pretend like you expected Nishikori to win this tourney. Because if you did you could have won over $100 grand on a $100 bet/

NBAplayoffs2001

09-06-2014, 08:16 PM

Nishikori has had a good year but it is ridiculous to make a claim like the one above. Don't pretend like you expected Nishikori to win this tourney. Because if you did you could have won over $100 grand on a $100 bet/

I'm curious how sports betting really works. I always wanted to get into it.

stalkerforlife

09-06-2014, 09:58 PM

Federer looks to be done winning grand slams. He just seemed tired today. He doesn't have that same fire.

Sucks.

enayes

09-06-2014, 10:16 PM

I'm curious how sports betting really works. I always wanted to get into it.

I'm not sure what Nishikori's odds actually were but I'm guessing he was around +10000, so you would win 10 grand on a 100 bet.

I put $10 on Tsonga at +4500 that would have paid $450.

Warfan

09-06-2014, 10:23 PM

gigantes

09-07-2014, 12:51 AM

marin cilic...!!

Sarcastic

09-07-2014, 01:09 AM

Impressive match by Cilic :applause: Hopefully the finals will be great

& :rolleyes: @ some of the people in this thread, being so happy that a 33 yr old isnt winning grand slams. I think he can get 1 more, im planning on going to the Wimbledon and maybe the AO next year so hopefully he wins one of those :D

Fed has had enough easy Slams in his career. He doesn't need anymore.

Nice to finally see the overall quality of the men's tour finally start to rise.

NBAplayoffs2001

09-07-2014, 08:38 AM

Fed has had enough easy Slams in his career. He doesn't need anymore.

Nice to finally see the overall quality of the men's tour finally start to rise.

Yeah, honestly Nishikori's quality of tennis past two matches were outstanding :applause:

I thought Fed looked horrible against monfils, couldn't see the Cilic match.

By the way what do you guys consider peak federer? I always considered the Aus Open 2007 his absolute peak. He was destroying everyone.