Why was Madonna so popular

[rlsmooth775]

She was a mediocre singer average dancer. Her songs are boring after you hear it the first time and you never have to hear it again

[Cactus-Sack]

Very slutty (for her time). Same reason Minaj and Azalea are popular today.

[Verticality]

She was a mediocre singer average dancer. Her songs are boring after you hear it the first time and you never have to hear it again

She was the Britney Spears of the 80s.

[ducktape]

no one did what she was doing

but cristina did it before madonna

cristina - don't be greedy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm4PztaLKAk)

[Godzuki]

she made some decent songs....i mean in her prime she was better than any pop singer of today.

[Jameerthefear]

she made some decent songs....i mean in her prime she was better than any pop singer of today.
not rlly

[DonDadda59]

She made the blueprint that mediocre/talentless pop stars today follow (ie: Lady Gaga). Be provocative and learn how to play the fame game and people will forget just how average you are. She knew how to get people to pay attention to her by constantly changing her style, dating the 'hot' guy in music/sports/films. She was a master at being famous.

[Godzuki]

not rlly


relative to 80'd pop singers, and its alwayus about relativity, she was above average. most of her music was....

[ducktape]

not rlly
madonna made catchy songs just like michael jackson

catchy songs are considered good

[L.Kizzle]

She was better than Cindy Lauper and Tiffany.

[DukeDelonte13]

not rlly


WTF do you know? Your tastes in entertainment are not even bad, they are straight up concerning. So bad your dad beat your ass when he found out the sh*t you're into. :oldlol:

Madonna was an elite level dancer, she got like a full ride to Michigan on a dance scholarship before her music career took off.

Like others said she pushed the envelope in terms of sexuality. She is a mediocre singer, but she's a high level performer + personality.

[BigBoss]

She was controversial and influenced pop culture. She was a rebel and went against the norms. She changed the game for female pop singers. She was the Michael Jackson for females.

[sweggeh]

Material Girl is still a banger today.

[L.Kizzle]

That album Pharrell and Timbaland did for her knocked.

[dude77]

really ? lol ... madonna has some of the best pop tunes of all time .. holiday, into the groove, borderline, cherish, live to tell, open your heart, crazy for you and the list goes on

[dude77]

She was controversial and influenced pop culture. She was a rebel and went against the norms. She changed the game for female pop singers. She was the Michael Jackson for females.

this

[Jameerthefear]

WTF do you know? Your tastes in entertainment are not even bad, they are straight up concerning. So bad your dad beat your ass when he found out the sh*t you're into. :oldlol:

Madonna was an elite level dancer, she got like a full ride to Michigan on a dance scholarship before her music career took off.

Like others said she pushed the envelope in terms of sexuality. She is a mediocre singer, but she's a high level performer + personality.
Why is your opinion so shit? Madonna is so ****ing mediocre. Even that sub-human whore Ariana has better hits than her.

[Meticode]

She pushed the envelope in regards to sexuality with performing.

[rlsmooth775]

She sucked at singing and dancing when you compare her to her peers. She isn't even that good looking don't get her success

[dude77]

She sucked at singing and dancing when you compare her to her peers. She isn't even that good looking don't get her success

what don't you get ? lol .. it's like any pop singer .. wtf was 'oops I did it again' popular .. catchy pop tunes .. people eat it up .. and she churned out one after the other over and over again

[wakencdukest]

She sucked at singing and dancing when you compare her to her peers. She isn't even that good looking don't get her success




First of all, pop music sucks. Pop music today reeeeeeally sucks. There ain't nothing earth shattering coming out in the world of pop these days, it's all garbage. don't act like you know something.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Very slutty (for her time). Same reason Minaj and Azalea are popular today.

+1

[iamgine]

Backstreet Boys was also very popular and you can argue Madonna was at least more talented than them.

[rlsmooth775]

First of all, pop music sucks. Pop music today reeeeeeally sucks. There ain't nothing earth shattering coming out in the world of pop these days, it's all garbage. don't act like you know something.

The genre doesn't suck she is just a terrible Artist

[IamRAMBO24]

really ? lol ... madonna has some of the best pop tunes of all time .. holiday, into the groove, borderline, cherish, live to tell, open your heart, crazy for you and the list goes on

:facepalm

What a f*ggot.

[wakencdukest]

The genre doesn't suck she is just a terrible Artist




Ok, who do you consider a great female artist in todays pop scene?

[dude77]

:facepalm

What a f*ggot.

no lies were told in my post shitstain

[rezznor]

She made the blueprint that mediocre/talentless pop stars today follow (ie: Lady Gaga). Be provocative and learn how to play the fame game and people will forget just how average you are. She knew how to get people to pay attention to her by constantly changing her style, dating the 'hot' guy in music/sports/films. She was a master at being famous.
don summed it up. not much talent but was a great self promoter, media manipulator and businesswoman.

[L.Kizzle]

Madonna is much better than the avg pop singer.

[rlsmooth775]

Ok, who do you consider a great female artist in todays pop scene?

Beyonc

[IamRAMBO24]

no lies were told in my post shitstain

That's the problem.

[SunsN07BookIt]

Madonna, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper were all the same. They had poppy, finger snapping music but had little singing talent themselves. At least Whitney Houston had a voice, but no brain, she didn't write her own music. The only really talented 80s pop performer was Prince. Fantastic song writer, promoter, and singer,

[Godzuki]

people just have awful tastes in music these days. Ariana is such a bad performer and i don't think anyone could name one song of hers, and u all got the nerve to put her above Madonna? :oldlol:

its like y'all are teeny bopper Beiber fans and shti these days. Ariana is so overrated with her big ass head and little kid body its not even funny...her nickname should be 'lil big head'. she's so into herself acting so self indulgently cute, thinking she's the cutest bitch on the planet but that shit is annoying as fukk. reminds me of Kim Kardashian vain'ness, like always looking the mirror and taking selfies because they're so into themselves its pitiful. and the teeny bopper brainwashed fans follow....truly sad shit.

if u like or liked pop music, or top 40, Madonna put out hits consistently. she was the shti in the 80's. her sex shock factor was annoying tbh, but it didn't make her at all, her music did. too bad a lot of u are more rap fans than white music fans to know this. keep sukking that gay fgt Kanye's dikk, dude has to be the gayest rapper in history,....won't even get into how Tupac was a complete dikk when he was alive but somehow gets this legacy like he was such a great dude after death. rap fans are retards too these days.

[Godzuki]

Madonna, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper were all the same. They had poppy, finger snapping music but had little singing talent themselves. At least Whitney Houston had a voice, but no brain, she didn't write her own music. The only really talented 80s pop performer was Prince. Fantastic song writer, promoter, and singer,

:facepalm

[L.Kizzle]

Madonna, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper were all the same. They had poppy, finger snapping music but had little singing talent themselves. At least Whitney Houston had a voice, but no brain, she didn't write her own music. The only really talented 80s pop performer was Prince. Fantastic song writer, promoter, and singer,
:biggums:

He who not no what he is talking about m

[wakencdukest]

[QUOTE=rlsmooth775][B]Beyonc

[rlsmooth775]

Madonna, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper were all the same. They had poppy, finger snapping music but had little singing talent themselves. At least Whitney Houston had a voice, but no brain, she didn't write her own music. The only really talented 80s pop performer was Prince. Fantastic song writer, promoter, and singer,

Michael jackson is 100 times better than madonna better singer dancer songwriter it's not even close michael is a pop artist who's talent is comparable to james brown also michael is also a better singer than everyone you listed except Whitney houston

[rlsmooth775]

It's all shit, Mariah had a great voice, that's about it.

All the people I listed are much better than madonna

[wakencdukest]

Madonna, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper were all the same. They had poppy, finger snapping music but had little singing talent themselves. At least Whitney Houston had a voice, but no brain, she didn't write her own music. The only really talented 80s pop performer was Prince. Fantastic song writer, promoter, and singer,




This is true. Michael had no vocal range. His choreography, dancing, and videos had more impact than his music ever did.

[rlsmooth775]

This is true. Michael had no vocal range. His choreography, dancing, and videos had more impact than his music ever did.

You probably only know like 3 michael jackson songs if you think he had limited vocal range he had a four octave vocal range

[L.Kizzle]

Mike has been in the game since the mid 60s. Lol at limited.

[rlsmooth775]

Michael was a r&b artist before a pop artist saying he has limited vocal range is ignorant

[dazzer87]

She was the Britney Spears of the 80s.
:facepalm Madonna>>>> Disney dancer

[tomtucker]

in the 80

[wakencdukest]

You probably only know like 3 michael jackson songs if you think he had limited vocal range he had a four octave vocal range




I lived through the Michael Jackson era. If he had any vocal range he never used it. He had that same high pitched tone on every song he ever did and it never changed.

[rlsmooth775]

I lived through the Michael Jackson era. If he had any vocal range he never used it. He had that same high pitched tone on every song he ever did and it never changed.

Yeah you obviously don't know what your talking about.

[Godzuki]

[QUOTE=tomtucker]in the 80

[wakencdukest]

Yeah you obviously don't know what your talking about.



You don't know what you're talking about, He was nothing special as a singer.

[L.Kizzle]

I lived through the Michael Jackson era. If he had any vocal range he never used it. He had that same high pitched tone on every song he ever did and it never changed.
:biggums:

gettin confused with Michael Henderson.

[Godzuki]

Michael jackson is 100 times better than madonna better singer dancer songwriter it's not even close michael is a pop artist who's talent is comparable to james brown also michael is also a better singer than everyone you listed except Whitney houston


i think this is black man bias considering Lauper was a amazing acoustic singer, and grew up singing randomly with a guitar by her side everywhere. i'm pretty sure MJ couldn't pull anything like that off. i'm sure some Howard Stern listeners know how good she can be, or her story.

Madonna made great pop songs, in fact empowered females a lot but thats not a argument i want to make, just throwing that fact out there since there are a lot of white girls from the 80's who were influenced by Madonna to be okay with their sexuality or express it more...but again her music back then was bigger and most consistent than any female pop star these days. she's as arguably as big a influence or bigger than MJ.

not taking too much away from MJ since he was huge in the 80's but he had a lot more flaws than people want to pretend, especially with his style/music, a lot of which can be criticised. the MJ jacket was one of the corniest gayest styles ever, along with the glove, and pretty much everything he wore.....but now people will have u believe he was so great at everything which wasn't true. everyone clowned his jacket back in the day but the nerds who bought/wore it.

Whitney did have a great voice. Mariah is/was extremely overrated, altho she did have a great voice, but to me she's one of those people with talent who didn't fulfill it, like under achiever.

[rlsmooth775]

i think this is black man bias considering Lauper was a amazing acoustic singer, and grew up singing randomly with a guitar by her side everywhere. i'm pretty sure MJ couldn't pull anything like that off.

Madonna made great pop songs, in fact empowered females a lot but thats not a argument i want to make, just throwing that fact out there since there are a lot of white girls from the 80's who were influenced by Madonna to be okay with their sexuality or express it more...but again her music back then was bigger and most consistent than any female pop star these days. she's as arguably as big a influence or bigger than MJ.

not taking too much away from MJ since he was huge in the 80's but he had a lot more flaws than people want to pretend, especially with his style/music, a lot of which can be criticised. the MJ jacket was one of the corniest gayest styles ever, along with the glove, and pretty much everything he wore.....but now people will have u believe he was so great at everything which wasn't true. everyone clowned his jacket back in the day but the nerds who bought/wore it.

Whitney did have a great voice. Mariah is/was extremely overrated, altho she did have a great voice, but to me she's one of those people with talent who didn't fulfill it, like under achiever.

You do know michael was a legit r&b artist when he was a kid performing at the Apollo getting record deals by 10 talking about lauper is comical

[Godzuki]

You do know michael was a legit r&b artist when he was a kid performing at the Apollo getting record deals by 10 talking about lauper is comical


yes i know his ABC's with the Jackson Five....but Lauper was a musical genius with instrument and song....like on the spot without the electronics to support her amazing just by herself. most of you don't know that tho, because you judge her from 'Girls just want to have Fun' type of mass success songs. Like i said if you listened to her on Stern, or her story, you'd know better.

MJ's music is not NEARLY as great as some of you want to paint it. Some of it was very good, but a lot of it was very mediocre or bad, which is obviously based on the person listening's tastes, but i don't think anyone would consider MJ's voice to be up there with the best in terms of any of his songs. his most popular songs were more manufactured success thru videos like Thriller or Beat It than showing off any voice at all. Again its hard to take away from MJ because he was a GREAT entertainer when you factor in music, dance, and style(even if i hated it he was unique), along with being a great human being, good samaritan IMO, but he is overrated like Tupac is when people talk about them in hindsight on some levels. revisionists of history always overexaggerate everything.

[rlsmooth775]

I can't tell if Godzuki is a troll or he suffers from mental retardation

[Godzuki]

I can't tell if Godzuki is a troll or he suffers from mental retardation


only if u could make a actual argument w/ explanation like i did retard :cheers:

[L.Kizzle]

yes i know his ABC's with the Jackson Five....but Lauper was a musical genius with instrument and song....like on the spot without the electronics to support her amazing just by herself. most of you don't know that tho, because you judge her from 'Girls just want to have Fun' type of mass success songs. Like i said if you listened to her on Stern, or her story, you'd know better.

MJ's music is not NEARLY as great as some of you want to paint it. Some of it was very good, but a lot of it was very mediocre or bad, which is obviously based on the person listening's tastes, but i don't think anyone would consider MJ's voice to be up there with the best in terms of any of his songs. his most popular songs were more manufactured success thru videos like Thriller or Beat It than showing off any voice at all. Again its hard to take away from MJ because he was a GREAT entertainer when you factor in music, dance, and style(even if i hated it he was unique), along with being a great human being, good samaritan IMO, but he is overrated like Tupac is when people talk about them in hindsight on some levels. revisionists of history always overexaggerate everything.
MJ was outperforming legends as an 8 year old. Guys like Smokey Robinson said MJ did his song better as a 10 year old than he did as a grown man. Mj was writing producing arranging his own music at 16. He's more than Thriller and Bad. Check out album tracks like Thats What You Get For Being Polite or Blues Away or Stranger In Moscow.

[Godzuki]

MJ was outperforming legends as an 8 year old. Guys like Smokey Robinson said MJ did his song better as a 10 year old than he did as a grown man. Mj was writing producing arranging his own music at 16. He's more than Thriller and Bad. Check out album tracks like Thats What You Get For Being Polite or Blues Away or Stranger In Moscow.


when did he show off that voice again? answer that....its like a copout to pretend he was a great singer when you have to go back to when he was like 8-12 yrs old and part of a family group...and can't even prove it from his most popular years of most of his music.

i mean i like some of MJ's songs, but a lot of it is nowhere near as great as his fans or revisionist history agenda people will have people believe.

[rlsmooth775]

MJ was outperforming legends as an 8 year old. Guys like Smokey Robinson said MJ did his song better as a 10 year old than he did as a grown man. Mj was writing producing arranging his own music at 16. He's more than Thriller and Bad. Check out album tracks like Thats What You Get For Being Polite or Blues Away or Stranger In Moscow.

No use in talking to this guy he obviously has limited knowledge on the subject and he is biased

[Godzuki]

No use in talking to this guy he obviously has limited knowledge on the subject and he is biased


you're obviously a one sentence simpleton :lol

[L.Kizzle]

when did he show off that voice again? answer that....its like a copout to pretend he was a great singer when you have to go back to when he was like 8-12 yrs old and part of a family group...and can't even prove it from his most popular years of most of his music.

i mean i like some of MJ's songs, but a lot of it is nowhere near as great as his fans or revisionist history agenda people will have people believe.
Listen to any of his albums ... :confusedshrug:

[Godzuki]

Listen to any of his albums ... :confusedshrug:


yes, you couldn't not in the 80's. again his biggest hits were Beat It and Thriller, both of which do not show amazing vocal range. Thriller hype was mainly based on a video and Vincent Price marketing thing. a lot of people likeed Beat It, but i didn't, but i get its about tastes :confusedshrug:

there was very little to no vocal range, and when i talk vocals i'm talking being good/great like Whitney. I liked Man in the Mirror a lot, even liked Billy Jean, but they don''t wow you with vocals.

he wasn't mainly famous for his Jackson 5 singing so you guys bringing that up to try and prove how great he was feels disingenuous with more of a agenda if anything. it was so early in his career, i'm not even sure he could sing those same vocals when he was in his prime.

[rlsmooth775]

Listen to any of his albums ... :confusedshrug:
He only knows 5 or 6 sings and pretends he knows his entire catalog

[Godzuki]

He only knows 5 or 6 sings and pretends he knows his entire catalog


...and like u know Lauper's.

i had MJ's records back then(who didnt?). i just couldn't remember a lot of the shit songs because they were shit like a lot of peoples albums are. of course hardcore fans will pretend the obscure ones were their best, but thats why you're retarded hardcore fans because you think your opinion is > than what most people who have heard it all think and becomes consensus or hits top 40 billboards.

[L.Kizzle]

yes, you couldn't not in the 80's. again his biggest hits were Beat It and Thriller, both of which do not show amazing vocal range. Thriller hype was mainly based on a video and Vincent Price marketing thing. a lot of people likeed Beat It, but i didn't, but i get its about tastes :confusedshrug:

there was very little to no vocal range, and when i talk vocals i'm talking being good/great like Whitney. I liked Man in the Mirror a lot, even liked Billy Jean, but they don''t wow you with vocals.

he wasn't mainly famous for his Jackson 5 singing so you guys bringing that up to try and prove how great he was feels disingenuous with more of a agenda if anything. it was so early in his career, i'm not even sure he could sing those same vocals when he was in his prime.
Most consider Mike a great vocslist. Past greats his peers and his followers.

Who do you consider a great R&B and or Pop vocalist compared to MJ?

[Godzuki]

Most consider Mike a great vocslist. Past greats his peers and his followers.

Who do you consider a great R&B and or Pop vocalist compared to MJ?


MJ was never known for his vocals, more his music like Madonna. you guys can only use Jackson5 arguments to even make that claim but i swear a lot of u here are so agenda driven.

anyways i consider Whitney one of the greatest all time voices. Mariah had a great voice like i said but under achiever. back in those days i'd have to look at a list since i've forgotten a lot of artists to jar my memory in terms of who had greater vocals but i'm sure i could name qquite a few.

[iamgine]

MJ had good range and his voice and style was very unique. His popularity was due to a combination of things, not just his music. Perhaps more so than other artists since his personality and life was just as unique as his voice.

[Brokenbeat]

MJ/Quincy > MJ/Pippen

[ThePhantomCreep]

She was the Britney Spears of the 80s.

Far bigger than that.

[ThePhantomCreep]

[QUOTE=rlsmooth775]Beyonc

[dude77]

That's the problem.

opinions are like assholes ..

like I said, madonna and her production team churned out hit pop song after song over and over again .. and most of them are pop classics today ..

whether you like them or not is a matter of taste I guess .. I grew on that stuff so I like it ..

holiday is an absolute classic and a great, feel good party song, into the groove is solid as well .. great, feel good party songs ..

physical attraction .. that's going way back 1983 ..

cherish is another solid, feel good song ..

live to tell ..

borderline is another pop classic ..

true blue ..

like a prayer ..

and on and on and on ..

it is what it is .. if you don't like that music, you just don't .. but there's a reason all of those songs are adored internationally

her and her production team were on their A game and it just worked

[Godzuki]

opinions are like assholes ..

like I said, madonna and her production team churned out hit pop song after song over and over again .. and most of them are pop classics today ..

whether you like them or not is a matter of taste I guess .. I grew on that stuff so I like it ..

holiday is an absolute classic and a great, feel good party song, into the groove is solid as well .. great, feel good party songs ..

physical attraction .. that's going way back 1983 ..

cherish is another solid, feel good song ..

live to tell ..

borderline is another pop classic ..

true blue ..

like a prayer ..

and on and on and on ..

it is what it is .. if you don't like that music, you just don't .. but there's a reason all of those songs are adored internationally

her and her production team were on their A game and it just worked


other thing is great voice isn't everything. like there are many singers who have very good voices who never put out a great song. some amateur singers can have really good voices. its about making it work into a hit song, making yourself famous, and putting out strings of hits to becoming legendary.

mf'ers here talk about "just catchy music" like its that EZ, like they could just write that song/melody, perform it, and be millionaires :facepalm

there is just a lot said for the overall success factor and pushing to being the centerpiece of all of that.

[andgar923]

Madonna's global impact is only rivaled by MJ's.

She was the female version of Michael Jackson to be honest.

How so?

She was provocative and pushed the envelope. One's image can only get one so far. But she had this man beside her:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Nile_Rodgers_Grammy_2014_Photo.jpg/220px-Nile_Rodgers_Grammy_2014_Photo.jpg

He was co-writing and producing her music.

Say what you want about her, but her music was carefully constructed for her and the music was great pop music that have lasted the age of time. Not as good a singer as Beyonce, or Ga GA. But better than Rihanna, Britney, etc.etc.

And she was smart.

She was a smart entertainer that came in an era where women's roles in society were beginning to change. And some will even say that she helped change women's roles and how women are perceived. So she was a true pioneer.

She created the blueprint that everybody else since then has followed.

If she didn't create it, she took whatever blueprint there was and raised the bar.

[ImKobe]

really ? lol ... madonna has some of the best pop tunes of all time .. holiday, into the groove, borderline, cherish, live to tell, open your heart, crazy for you and the list goes on

And don't forget the soundtrack to Jameer's life - Like a Virgin

[eliteballer]

Very slutty (for her time). Same reason Minaj and Azalea are popular today.

Yup.

Also one of those celebrities more famous for the media pushing her than actual talent.

[stalkerforlife]

Papa don't preach.

Holiday.

Lucky Star.

This used to be my playground.

Material girl.

Etc.

Madonna had a lot of very catchy, good songs.

[NumberSix]

Madonna's global impact is only rivaled by MJ's.

She was the female version of Michael Jackson to be honest.

How so?

She was provocative and pushed the envelope. One's image can only get one so far. But she had this man beside her:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Nile_Rodgers_Grammy_2014_Photo.jpg/220px-Nile_Rodgers_Grammy_2014_Photo.jpg

He was co-writing and producing her music.

Say what you want about her, but her music was carefully constructed for her and the music was great pop music that have lasted the age of time. Not as good a singer as Beyonce, or Ga GA. But better than Rihanna, Britney, etc.etc.

And she was smart.

She was a smart entertainer that came in an era where women's roles in society were beginning to change. And some will even say that she helped change women's roles and how women are perceived. So she was a true pioneer.

She created the blueprint that everybody else since then has followed.

If she didn't create it, she took whatever blueprint there was and raised the bar.
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