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imnew09
09-06-2014, 03:40 AM
The Bulls were too stacked back in the days. Plus, Kobe will not give up the love of basketball to go play some boring a$$ baseball. 6-peat

SamuraiSWISH
09-06-2014, 03:44 AM
Prime Kobe 2001 - 2010

Could win with the '92, '94, '96, and '97 Bulls.

dubeta
09-06-2014, 03:47 AM
Compare PER's and you'll see thats not true

Cocaine80s
09-06-2014, 03:51 AM
Even Carmelo could win 5 rings with that team imo

SamuraiSWISH
09-06-2014, 03:55 AM
Even Carmelo could win 5 rings with that team imo
Carmelo is going to play the defense required for those early 90's Bulls teams? I don't think so. Carmelo is going to put up 31 ppg, and 11 apg w/ elite defense? I'm not even sure Melo can average 40+ ppg for a Finals series. Melo sure as hell doesn't have the will to win that was required in 1998. Melo could win with the '94, and '96 squads.

NZStreetBaller
09-06-2014, 03:56 AM
as long as kobe was as marketable as jordan why not??

Marchesk
09-06-2014, 04:28 AM
as long as kobe was as marketable as jordan why not??

Too bad Dr J wasn't marketable.

imnew09
09-06-2014, 03:28 PM
Compare PER's and you'll see thats not true
Beta is all about per and shit

f0und
09-06-2014, 04:03 PM
as time goes on, jordan's cast gets more and more overrated and its mostly done by kobe and bron stans that didnt even see them play.

it used to be said that jordan's cast was weak compared to other dynasties. how jordan was the only superstar in history to lead his team to titles without a dominant big man, and still is. yet here we are. every other week, there's a thread talking about how you can just "replace jordan with X wing superstar = instant title". specifically with someone who has never won a title without the most dominant front line in the league during his title years. the revisionis historians never fail to boggle my mind.

SouBeachTalents
09-06-2014, 04:05 PM
as time goes on, jordan's cast gets more and more overrated and its mostly done by kobe and bron stans that didnt even see them play.

it used to be said that jordan's cast was weak compared to other dynasties. how jordan was the only superstar in history to lead his team to titles without a dominant big man, and still is. yet here we are. every other week, there's a thread talking about how you can just "replace jordan with X wing superstar = instant title". specifically with someone who has never won a title without the most dominant front line in the league during his title years. the revisionis historians never fail to boggle my mind.

Not just instant "title", apparently six titles, or in this thread's case. 6-peat

sportjames23
09-06-2014, 04:39 PM
as time goes on, jordan's cast gets more and more overrated and its mostly done by kobe and bron stans that didnt even see them play.

it used to be said that jordan's cast was weak compared to other dynasties. how jordan was the only superstar in history to lead his team to titles without a dominant big man, and still is. yet here we are. every other week, there's a thread talking about how you can just "replace jordan with X wing superstar = instant title". specifically with someone who has never won a title without the most dominant front line in the league during his title years. the revisionis historians never fail to boggle my mind.


Exactly. Gotta love those haters with their agendas.

sportjames23
09-06-2014, 04:41 PM
The Bulls were too stacked back in the days. Plus, Kobe will not give up the love of basketball to go play some boring a$$ baseball. 6-peat


Funny how Kobe couldn't even 4-peat with a stacked team doe. And Kobe might not quit to play baseball, but he will rape white girls and disrupt team chemistry.

Young X
09-06-2014, 04:42 PM
I can see '91, '94, '96, '97 probably. The competition in '92 and '93 is too tough.

Nowitness
09-06-2014, 04:48 PM
Jordan from 1990-98 scored more points. grabbed more rebounds. dished out the same amount of assists. more steals, more blocks. better FG % , same FT% , and had much better defense than 01-10 Kobe.

Where's the 20 / 10 player to catch Kobe's bricks? Kobe wins 2 at most. :oldlol:

Nowitness
09-06-2014, 04:49 PM
I can see '91, '94, '96, '97 probably. The competition in '92 and '93 is too tough.

jordan in 91: 31/7/8/2/1.5 // .600 TS%.

Kobe never got close to those numbers. :oldlol:

GODbe
09-06-2014, 04:50 PM
Kobe would've won AT THE VERY LEAST 10. That team was too stacked, and the era was too weak for anything less than that. And Kobe wouldn't have gone golfing midway through.

SouBeachTalents
09-06-2014, 04:55 PM
Kobe would've won AT THE VERY LEAST 10. That team was too stacked, and the era was too weak for anything less than that. And Kobe wouldn't have gone golfing midway through.

10? Why not 12-13?

Rolando
09-06-2014, 05:10 PM
Who's gonna replace Jordan's defense. Kobe forgot to copy the other half of Jordan's game.

Hey Yo
09-06-2014, 05:20 PM
Kobe with the Bulls?

Rodman would have never signed on plus Scottie and Grant would have left the first chance they got and go on to become better players.

Young X
09-06-2014, 05:33 PM
jordan in 91: 31/7/8/2/1.5 // .600 TS%.

Kobe never got close to those numbers. :oldlol:True, but the Bulls competition that year wasn't as good as they were in future years, they basically cakewalked to the finals that season. With Kobe I see them still getting past the 1st 2 rounds, beating the Pistons 4-2 instead of 4-0 and possibly beating the Lakers in 7. Not saying it would happen but I can see it.

The competition in '92 and '93 was too tough, Miami and Utah in '97 is too tough, can't see them getting past the Pacers in '98 either. '91, '94 and definitely '96 are the seasons where I can see them winning.

TheMarkMadsen
09-06-2014, 05:43 PM
jordan in 91: 31/7/8/2/1.5 // .600 TS%.

Kobe never got close to those numbers. :oldlol:

Kobe basically averaged that for an entire season. Also put up 29/7/6 in the playoffs on the most dominant playoff team ever.

Put up 30/6/6 from 08-10 in the playoffs...

j3lademaster
09-06-2014, 05:59 PM
No. Kobe's too ball dominant to let Pippen play his game. Give Kobe a Pippen caliber center and a Longley/ Cartwright caliber sf and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a few. The early 2000's Spurs squads were physical, fundamentally sound, inside-outside teams in the mold of classic 90's squads and Kobe was able to put up some pretty nice numbers against them.

Yao Ming's Foot
09-06-2014, 06:14 PM
This thread is prime bait for Jordan mythologists to display their ignorance about the defensive efficiency of the teams Jordan faced in the playoffs especially the Finals and the teams Kobe faced.

:cheers:

Doranku
09-06-2014, 06:21 PM
No. Kobe's too ball dominant to let Pippen play his game. Give Kobe a Pippen caliber center and a Longley/ Cartwright caliber sf and I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a few. The early 2000's Spurs squads were physical, fundamentally sound, inside-outside teams in the mold of classic 90's squads and Kobe was able to put up some pretty nice numbers against them.

:oldlol: Coming from someone who clearly never watched Jordan play. Jordan was probably the most ball dominant player in NBA history.

Also, it's funny that people say they don't win in years of the second threepeat. Prime Kobe >>> second threepeat Jordan, they'd win all three of those titles with prime Kobe easily.

ZMonkey11
09-06-2014, 06:30 PM
as time goes on, jordan's cast gets more and more overrated and its mostly done by kobe and bron stans that didnt even see them play.

it used to be said that jordan's cast was weak compared to other dynasties. how jordan was the only superstar in history to lead his team to titles without a dominant big man, and still is. yet here we are. every other week, there's a thread talking about how you can just "replace jordan with X wing superstar = instant title". specifically with someone who has never won a title without the most dominant front line in the league during his title years. the revisionis historians never fail to boggle my mind.

Isiah Thomas just wanted to stop by and say hi.

Angel Face
09-06-2014, 06:54 PM
:oldlol: @ kids calling the 90s Bulls teams stacked. Kobe winning 6 peat? :roll: He might win one if he's lucky.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
09-06-2014, 06:59 PM
4-5 titles imo

'91, '96, '97, '98

1992 is an outside shot. Not sure how Kobe would have faced against Riley and NY's cut-throat defense.

sportjames23
09-06-2014, 07:14 PM
With how pussified today's league is, Kobe's about the only wing player I could see doing well in the 90s, but Riley's Knicks and Heat teams would work his ass.

andgar923
09-06-2014, 07:21 PM
They win nada.

MiseryCityTexas
09-06-2014, 07:51 PM
Too bad Dr J wasn't marketable.


He was in the 70s.

MiseryCityTexas
09-06-2014, 07:52 PM
They win nada.


Prime 97,98 Utah Jazz would have shut Kobe down and have him shooting his typical shitty shooting percentages.

Cali Syndicate
09-06-2014, 08:11 PM
as time goes on, jordan's cast gets more and more overrated and its mostly done by kobe and bron stans that didnt even see them play.

it used to be said that jordan's cast was weak compared to other dynasties. how jordan was the only superstar in history to lead his team to titles without a dominant big man, and still is. yet here we are. every other week, there's a thread talking about how you can just "replace jordan with X wing superstar = instant title". specifically with someone who has never won a title without the most dominant front line in the league during his title years. the revisionis historians never fail to boggle my mind.

Pretty sure the Bad boys Pistons didn't have a dominant big man. in fact, 3 straight finals and a won back to back w/o a dominant big.

j3lademaster
09-06-2014, 08:22 PM
:oldlol: Coming from someone who clearly never watched Jordan play. Jordan was probably the most ball dominant player in NBA history.

Also, it's funny that people say they don't win in years of the second threepeat. Prime Kobe >>> second threepeat Jordan, they'd win all three of those titles with prime Kobe easily.Jordan wasn't that ball dominant in championship years. Of course any 30 ppg scorer is going to be decently ball dominant, but if you watched MJ, his biggest strength was his ability to position well to get the ball, then make his move before the defense can react. Ball dominance and usage rate isn't the same thing. Jordan's instincts and ability to improvise in the middle of a move was what set him apart from all other perimeter players in history. It made him the best.

imnew09
09-07-2014, 02:26 AM
Who's gonna replace Jordan's defense. Kobe forgot to copy the other half of Jordan's game.

Kobe got more defensive team than MJ

SamuraiSWISH
09-07-2014, 02:38 AM
Actually I stand corrected, '91 was an easier route to the championship than the '92 run. While Kobe may not be able to put up 31 ppg and 11 apg while guarding Magic in a back door sweep. It would be a series, but they could still win it. 1992 Knicks physicality would've gave Kobe fits, and I don't see him replicating MJ's game 7 performance given his history in those types of games.

And assuming Kobe doesn't attempt to play major league baseball, here is how I assume things would go down.

2000 Kobe on '91 Bulls? Possible
2001 Kobe on '92 Bulls? Possible
2002 Kobe on '93 Bulls? No.
2003 Kobe on '94 Bulls? Easily
2004 Kobe on '95 Bulls? No.
2005 Kobe on '96 Bulls? Probable
2006 Kobe on '97 Bulls? Definite
2007 Kobe on '98 Bulls? Probable

FaceSmack
09-07-2014, 02:38 AM
Stats aren't everything

If you actually watched them both play, you'll see that Kobe is more skilled in Jordan and catches fire more often

Once Kobe passes Jordan in scoring, then it's sure that Kobe > Jordan as a scorer

Cold soul
09-07-2014, 02:38 AM
Prime Kobe 2001 - 2010

Could win with the '92, '94, '96, and '97 Bulls.

This and add in 98 so 4-5 most likely.

oarabbus
09-07-2014, 03:28 AM
Stats aren't everything

If you actually watched them both play, you'll see that Kobe is more skilled in Jordan and catches fire more often

Once Kobe passes Jordan in scoring, then it's sure that Kobe > Jordan as a scorer


Yeah... You're just making that up