Charles Barkley Would Dominate in Today's NBA Game

[JtotheIzzo]

With small ball, no hand checking, and a league void of Alphas, Phila Sixers Charles Barkley would be the toast of the league.

Watch this short video (especially at 0:37 where he dunks over 3 7-foot Hall of Famers out of the halfcourt set). This is probably the single best highlight package ever assembled, his ferocity and intensity would rock the National Beta Association like a tornado tearing up middle American trailer park inbreds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJuINS6WZyA

[Fowl]

I agree he would be pretty unstoppable. Drawing fouls at will and manhandling opponents.

[Marchesk]

But would he flop?

[Round Mound]

1988-93 Was The 2nd Best Player In The World.

[-Lebron23-]

If this was before Kevin Love, we would see some clowns here saying how superior today's league is in athleticism and because of that Barkely would not be as effective.

Now? LMAO

[Rose'sACL]

Barkley would still not be better than Durant and lebron. He would be the clear 3rd best player in the league.

[Round Mound]

Barkley would still not be better than Durant and lebron. He would be the clear 3rd best player in the league.

Durant Can`t Rebound, Pass or Demmand The Double and Triple Teaming That Prime 1988-1993 Sir Charles Did. He Would Be The Best or 2nd Best After Lebron.

[That_Admiral]

Great video! showing Sir Charles' dominance

[PHILA]

Barkley would still not be better than Durant and lebron. He would be the clear 3rd best player in the league.
Prime LeBron is much better defensively, but on offense Barkley has a slight edge. Barkley however has a clear edge on Durant at both ends. Below we can see the Sixers plus/minus statistics as compiled by Harvey Pollack.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...&postcount=255 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10512988&postcount=255)

Barkley's 4 year average for Net ORtg from 1989-1992 is +11.5, while LeBron's 5 year average from 2009-2013 is +11.4. Durant's 5 year average from 2010-2014 is +7.8 on offense, and +1.6 on defense. Based on these raw statistics he is 1.5 points worse than Barkley on defense, and almost 4 points worse than both Barkley and LeBron on offense.

A poster on another forum has calculated Barkley's RAPM adjusted to 2013-14 variance. His overall +/- from both 1989 & 1990 would rank #1, when he was neutral defensively (+0.1). He would still be top 5 in his 1991 & 1992 years as his defense slipped. But on offense only his +/- would almost certainly be number #1 for all four years.

I'm sure his 1993 numbers would look great as well if they were available, considering the team offense was +5.3 (with K.J. missing 33 games) and the team defense was -1.3, for a net rating of +6.6. In the 6 games Barkley missed in 1993, the Suns offense dropped to 103.1 (-4.9) and the defense also dropped to 107.3 (-0.7) for a net rating of -4.2.

He might even be the #1 player in 2014, considering how much LeBron's defense slipped. But not from 2009-2013, except in 2011 he would be right there with Nowitzki.

[comerb]

Considering Barkley was one of the most dominant offensive players in history, he would dominate in any period of the NBA.

[3ball]

He'd be a great 3-point shooter in today's game too because he had a good shooting stroke and was a great player with a great player mindset - just like Lebron finally became a good 3-point shooter 9 years into HIS career, Barkely would be able to make the same adjustment.

[Ass Dan]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_dropstep_dunks_over_bar_8a0fc3e5bb54358a36b 23126fd6c46a0.gif


Barkley would get eaten in this era. Obese, undersized and a defensive liability. F outta here with this domination nonsense..


MJ mythologists propping up weak era stars. :facepalm

that is cute, you post a gif and that settles everything.

LOL, kids these days.

I agree with Round Mound, second best after Bran Sauce.

That video BTW freakin awesome, love the fact Chuck used not just block shots, but catch them, and his two foot explosiveness is kind of unparalleled at the four in today's game.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Barkley would definitely have to modify his game because he enjoyed holding the ball for about 10-15 secs of the shot clock and just back his man down.

That style of play would not happen in today's league because of the modified zone and the 5 second rule.

[Encre92]

Yes he would. Apart from his subpar defense, which his offense more than makes up for, he'll be in contention for MVP almost every season in his prime.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Prime Barkley was DEFINITELY better than Durant. Get real.

[heavensdevil]

Barkley would definitely have to modify his game because he enjoyed holding the ball for about 10-15 secs of the shot clock and just back his man down.

That style of play would not happen in today's league because of the modified zone and the 5 second rule.


The 5 second rule was made because of Barkley. Barkley would dominate, the post up game is non existent nowadays. He would body today's Bigs. I like how Blake Griffin played in the post in the playoffs, reminded me of Sir Charles.

[heavensdevil]

Prime Barkley was DEFINITELY better than Durant. Get real.


Completely different players, wouldn't even compare them.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

He dominated during his own time...

[DonDadda59]

Barkley would definitely have to modify his game because he enjoyed holding the ball for about 10-15 secs of the shot clock and just back his man down.

That style of play would not happen in today's league because of the modified zone and the 5 second rule.

The only thing Chuck would have to modify is his personality. In this watered down league personality, passion, attitude etc are outlawed. Dont think the league would be able to turn sir charles into one of their stepford wives. Hed probably set the guinness world record for techs accrued.

And anyone who thinks he wouldnt at least match pasty doughboy Love's production is smoking that good shit.

[SCdac]

Agreed

[Suguru101]

Prime LeBron is much better defensively, but on offense Barkley has a slight edge. Barkley however has a clear edge on Durant at both ends. Below we can see the Sixers plus/minus statistics as compiled by Harvey Pollack.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...&postcount=255 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10512988&postcount=255)

Barkley's 4 year average for Net ORtg from 1989-1992 is +11.5, while LeBron's 5 year average from 2009-2013 is +11.4. Durant's 5 year average from 2010-2014 is +7.8 on offense, and +1.6 on defense. Based on these raw statistics he is 1.5 points worse than Barkley on defense, and almost 4 points worse than both Barkley and LeBron on offense.

A poster on another forum has calculated Barkley's RAPM adjusted to 2013-14 variance. His overall +/- from both 1989 & 1990 would rank #1, when he was neutral defensively (+0.1). He would still be top 5 in his 1991 & 1992 years as his defense slipped. But on offense only his +/- would almost certainly be number #1 for all four years.

I'm sure his 1993 numbers would look great as well if they were available, considering the team offense was +5.3 (with K.J. missing 33 games) and the team defense was -1.3, for a net rating of +6.6. In the 6 games Barkley missed in 1993, the Suns offense dropped to 103.1 (-4.9) and the defense also dropped to 107.3 (-0.7) for a net rating of -4.2.

He might even be the #1 player in 2014, considering how much LeBron's defense slipped. But not from 2009-2013, except in 2011 he would be right there with Nowitzki.

I don't know how you haven't been called out on this BS.

On offense? As in complete offense (scoring, playmaking, passing, IQ)?

Stop it.

LeBron is a much more versatile and dominant scorer than Barkley ever was. LeBron is a better playoff scorer and also is a better passer/playmaker.

Stop the disrespect.

[Soundwave]

Charles Barkely would do well in any era of basketball. He was a very good player, not much to debate here.

[Round Mound]

Here is A Rare 1993 Barkley Game Resume:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij8ExJNl3BQ

Top 1-2 In Today`s Game with Lebron.

[Collie]

Barkley today would be like a more explosive, fiercer, faster, better rebounding Blake Griffin.

[jlip]

Considering Barkley was one of the most dominant offensive players in history, he would dominate in any period of the NBA.

This

[MiseryCityTexas]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_dropstep_dunks_over_bar_8a0fc3e5bb54358a36b 23126fd6c46a0.gif


Barkley would get eaten in this era. Obese, undersized and a defensive liability. F outta here with this domination nonsense..


MJ mythologists propping up weak era stars. :facepalm

Prime Barkley would be better than Blake Griffin, and Serge Ibaka easily in today's era. Prime Barkley was like a much better much more athletic, and much more clutch version of Paul Milsap.

[Round Mound]

Barkley Was The Best Combination of Scoring Efficiently, Rebounding, Passing and Coast To Coast Dunks Of All Time

[Round Mound]

[B]This Version of Barkley Would Destroy The League Today:

[U]Charles Barkley 34/20/8/3 vs Bulls 1990

[eliteballer]

Look at Kevin Love's stats and Bosh's 24/11 season and imagine what Barkley would do:eek:

[bizil]

Barkley for me is the best PF of all time peak value wise. Offensively, he had it all in terms of post play, handles, passing, midrange game, slashing, and was capable of the three ball too. And on top of it he was a freakish athlete (along with Bron the best combo of power and speed ever) with point forward kind of skills. In today's game, he would be even MORE DOMINANT today! At the PF or SF, it doesn't matter. Overall, I think he would be the second best player in the world after Lebron in today's game. I give him the edge over Durant cause Barkley is capable of leading the L in boards AND is just as good and likely a better passer than Durant. Chuck is one of the few greats that can say he was an alpha dog AND great all around player all in one! That kind of separates Chuck, Duncan, and KG from the rest of the legendary PF's!

[JtotheIzzo]

Barkley for me is the best PF of all time peak value wise. Offensively, he had it all in terms of post play, handles, passing, midrange game, slashing, and was capable of the three ball too. And on top of it he was a freakish athlete (along with Bron the best combo of power and speed ever) with point forward kind of skills. In today's game, he would be even MORE DOMINANT today! At the PF or SF, it doesn't matter. Overall, I think he would be the second best player in the world after Lebron in today's game. I give him the edge over Durant cause Barkley is capable of leading the L in boards AND is just as good and likely a better passer than Durant. Chuck is one of the few greats that can say he was an alpha dog AND great all around player all in one! That kind of separates Chuck, Duncan, and KG from the rest of the legendary PF's!

Totally agree, but I would add, I say 'dominate' because I do not think anyone today (Outside Lebron) is the same combination of skill and in the moment explosiveness.

I think it would be LeBron and Barkley, and then the rest of the pack pulling up the rear quite a distance behind.

Despite the MVP in Phoenix, Philadelphia Barkley was a much superior player (he was in older-man game in Phoenix) but he simply had no killer running mates outside his rookie year. Give Barkley another hound dog in Philly and we are looking at an alteration of the Jordan legacy.

[ralph_i_el]

Rich mans Kevin Love. Better in the post, worse on the perimeter. Runs the break instead of throwing outlets like Love tho.

27/12/4 on 55% shooting, unless they have him shooting a few 3's a game (then his % would be lower)

[PHILA]

I don't know how you haven't been called out on this BS.

On offense? As in complete offense (scoring, playmaking, passing, IQ)?

Stop it.

LeBron is a much more versatile and dominant scorer than Barkley ever was. LeBron is a better playoff scorer and also is a better passer/playmaker.

Stop the disrespect.
I am referring to the raw plus/minus data only. We will get a better picture when the advanced play by play statistics are released. He may not be as well rounded as LeBron, but he was so effective at what he did when it came to getting in the paint. I agree LeBron James is much like a modern day Robertson in all around skills.

[Thorpesaurous]

I don't disagree with this premise. And with the relative lack of space eating defenders, not only would his offensive game benefit, but his defensive warts would have less impact.

And I actually have always felt Barkley was a touch overrated, which to me is sort of indicative of why I feel it's so hard to cross compare eras. If a guys strengths are accentuated during a specific era, and he just happened to not be playing during it, I'm not sure it makes those strengths and less strong.

[Paul George 24]

Eh.. actually an MJ 90s stan posted that gif about a minute ago.

Isn't meant to settle everything, but it is definitive of Barkley's career: losing, mj's whipping boy, undersized, zero defense etc etc.. :oldlol: at the kid remark.. very cute.

leonard owned leflop :lol

[JtotheIzzo]

Rich mans Kevin Love. Better in the post, worse on the perimeter. Runs the break instead of throwing outlets like Love tho.

27/12/4 on 55% shooting, unless they have him shooting a few 3's a game (then his % would be lower)

without the hand checks, with the clear paths to the rim and with no physical play nowadays, Barkley would be 30 and 15 easily.

[ralph_i_el]

without the hand checks, with the clear paths to the rim and with no physical play nowadays, Barkley would be 30 and 15 easily.

He might average more than 5 assists, but 3 dudes are crashing the paint every time Barkley touches the ball if he played today. You can't just clear out a side and let him go to work like when illegal D was in play.

[OldSchoolBBall]

He would easily average 26/12+/4+/54+% FG/64+% TS today.

[305Baller]

Yes. He would.