Is there any stereotype that's not true?

[Breezy]

I'm not the first person to point this out but stereotypes exist for a reason, otherwise they wouldn't stick. Just try to float it out there that Black guys have small junk and suck at sports, or that Asians are bad a math. Or on and on and on.

The only one I can think of is that Redheads have 'Firey' personalities. I think that's just a lazy and erroneous connection between red and fire.

[NumberSix]

I'm not comfortable with the word "true". To me it implies that stereotypes are absolute, which is obviously not the case.

Are stereotypes "accurate"? To some degree, many are. For example...

Are Dutch people tall? Yes, that is largely accurate. Of course, it's not an absolute.

Do Americans like football? Yes. In general that is accurate.

Do Canadians like hockey. Yes. Again, not an absolute. Many Canadians don't like hockey, but clearly it is very popular amongst Canadians.

[NumberSix]

Oops. I misread. I thought it said "are there any stereotypes that are true". My bad.

[MadeFromDust]

Yes.

[IamRAMBO24]

Stereotypes are a form of generalization, which is the lowest level of thinking. The educational system conditions students to think this way (why do you think you do classification, outlines, grouping, and multiple choice questions, etc.?), so truth is found based on the whole, which is fallacious in nature.

The highest truths are in the concrete. It is a flawed perspective, hence why racist and dumb people ride stereotypes as their only form of intellect.

[Breezy]

Of course they're not 100%. Otherwise they would just be scientific realities. I don't even think they need to be over 50%. For instance much less than 50% of Muslims will commit a suicide bombing. But since a much higher % of muslims will than any other group, They get the label

I'm About as white as it get's. I look like Dolph Lundgren if he were 4 inches shorter. I regularly golf, Obviously only a small percentage of white people golf but we do so at a higher rate than anyone else. so we get the label. It is what it is. Stereotypes are shortcuts from detailed information. They come from millions of years of evolution. I embrace them.


NOW!!!! are there any that are patently false and do not apply to the group they are assigned?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Asians are bad drivers.
This is flat out false if we're considering every Asian in the mix. If it's just Asian grandma Fobs, then by all means ring it true; but Asians have to be damn good drivers to make it in Malaysia, China, Vietnam, Japans rusty rickedy ass roads and then the entire Asian-American youth generally into the ricer culture and other things that require hand eye cordination.

Blacks hate mayo.
Most Southern people, black or white, enjoy potato salad and other amenities require Hellman's. If it's not mayo, they obsessed with ranch.


Women are weak and stupid.
No... they are strong and cunning. In other ways.

Men are unemotional.
False.

Old people are wise.
You'd think this would be the case... but pearls of wisdom can come from just about anybody. You never know how quickly people perceive things or transition ito maturity and u never know who's a perpetual peter pan.

Gays are unmanly.
Obviously tops are very masculine, but I've met some bottoms too who are much more macho than their straight counterparts.. the whole lisp fahsionista hairdresser thing has to come from dudes who have older sisters or something lol

Liberals are openminded.
Cue starface for this one.

Engineers/Doctors are retarded.
They're really not dumb. They simply had to use a lot of brainpower to retain material and through hard focus they often times weren't able to garner up the capacity to connect with other humans (engineers) or had to forego nutrition classes (hence why dotors give bad advice)

Polish people are dumb.
Nope. They're quite sharp.

Italians gesticulate a lot.
Ok this is true, but so does everybody from the Mediterannean and Latin America lol so why just italy

[IamRAMBO24]

I'm not comfortable with the word "true". To me it implies that stereotypes are absolute, which is obviously not the case.

Are stereotypes "accurate"? To some degree, many are. For example...

Are Dutch people tall? Yes, that is largely accurate. Of course, it's not an absolute.

Do Americans like football? Yes. In general that is accurate.

Do Canadians like hockey. Yes. Again, not an absolute. Many Canadians don't like hockey, but clearly it is very popular amongst Canadians.

All asians are short.

All black people are criminals.

Both statements are incorrect. Yao Ming is asian. There are many successful black people. A stereotype will always be fallacious in nature and can never be a form of truth despite how dumb you are to think it is.

[Godzuki]

Stereotypes are a form of generalization, which is the lowest level of thinking. The educational system conditions students to think this way (why do you think you do classification, outlines, grouping, and multiple choice questions, etc.?), so truth is found based on the whole, which is fallacious in nature.

The highest truths are in the concrete. It is a flawed perspective, hence why racist and dumb people ride stereotypes as their only form of intellect.


thats why you're one of the dumbest, politically correct, m'fers on this forum.

i swear you're dumb as fukk tho, so much dumber than you realize it annoys me tbh :lol

[YouGotServed]

Mexicans are lazy. Don't know where that one came from. On the contrary, Mexicans should be stereotyped as being hard working people.

[Godzuki]

All asians are short.

All black people are criminals.

Both statements are incorrect. Yao Ming is asian. There are many successful black people. A stereotype will always be fallacious in nature and can never be a form of truth despite how dumb you are to think it is.


this is another reason why you're dumb as fukk tho. nobody said they're absolute, look up generalization, its a 'generalized' POV, not all, just many. you're such a stupid mf'er with such know it all ego :facepalm

[PHX_Phan]

In my experience, the stereotype that black people don't tip is largely untrue. I've worked a lot of gratuity based jobs and was never stiffed by black people any more than others.

[Godzuki]

u can real sum up generalizations or stereotypes to 'street smarts'. if you think about what makes street smarts its based off of generalizations.

there are people with ZERO street smarts and its rather obvious how clueless they are, or how quickly they'd get mugged walking down a dark alley thinking every situation is equal. but they're dumb as fukk people with very little learned sense....

just some people don't get shit. a lot of people do, even the ones that pretend to be so PC but see things in a stereotypical sense on some levels.

[IamRAMBO24]

this is another reason why you're dumb as fukk tho. nobody said they're absolute, look up generalization, its a 'generalized' POV, not all, just many. you're such a stupid mf'er with such know it all ego :facepalm

A generalization is a faulty conclusion based on a number of instances. For example, you see a sample of such instances and then you conclude it for the entire population.

No matter how you cut it it is a flaw in logic.

[NumberSix]

In my experience, the stereotype that black people don't tip is largely untrue. I've worked a lot of gratuity based jobs and was never stiffed by black people any more than others.
I've never even heard that one.


I never understood the black people like chicken stereotype. It's accurate, but EVERYBODY likes chicken. Why pick them out? It's like saying gingers like sandwiches. Yeah, of course. Who doesn't?

[Godzuki]

Mexicans are lazy. Don't know where that one came from. On the contrary, Mexicans should be stereotyped as being hard working people.

mexicans get stereotyped as working low end jobs but not lazy really. if anything they get stereotyped as working 2-3 jobs.


'work like a mexican' is a common phrase...which is not lazy.

[IamRAMBO24]

mexicans get stereotyped as working low end jobs but not lazy really. if anything they get stereotyped as working 2-3 jobs.

See you can't even properly define a stereotype. Don't call someone stupid when you don't even know what you are talking about.

[Godzuki]

A generalization is a faulty conclusion based on a number of instances. For example, you see a sample of such instances and then you conclude it for the entire population.

No matter how you cut it it is a flaw in logic.


no retard, its a generalization, ie based on a lot of some type of people or race being good/bad at something. azn's are good at math. deny it all u want but they are good at math but according to your politically correct stupid PC reality every race is equally as good at math as azn's are...

some of you live by a fairy tale world where everyone must be equal, when in reality they're not. there ARE differences but some of u are dumb as fukk for not realizing that.

[Godzuki]

See you can't even properly define a stereotype. Don't call someone stupid when you don't even know what you are talking about.


i swear you're the dumbest mf'er here tbh. your views on conspiracies in themselves are really fukking dumb. i'm usually bias for other azn's or give other azn's some credit for intelligence but i swear you're one of those that buck my benefit of doubt.

[KNOW1EDGE]

This thread is full of ignorance. I'm not even going to comment, other than to say Rambo is extremely dull and I enjoy laughing at his expense.

[IamRAMBO24]

no retard, its a generalization, ie based on a lot of some type of people or race being good/bad at something. azn's are good at math. deny it all u want but they are good at math but according to your politically correct stupid PC reality every race is equally as good at math as azn's are...

some of you live by a fairy tale world where everyone must be equal, when in reality they're not. there ARE differences but some of u are dumb as fukk for not realizing that.

Not all asians are good at math. You are aware when you say "asians" you are implying all asians right? That's how the premise of a generalization works. I'm dealing with logic. You are committing a fallacy.

[IamRAMBO24]

This thread is full of ignorance. I'm not even going to comment, other than to say Rambo is extremely dull and I enjoy laughing at his expense.

It is a matter of perrspective; I only deal with logic and concrete truths, while most of you deal with bullsh*t generalizations, so of course, the structure of your thinking believes it is true, but logic and reality speak otherwise.

[Godzuki]

I've never even heard that one.


I never understood the black people like chicken stereotype. It's accurate, but EVERYBODY likes chicken. Why pick them out? It's like saying gingers like sandwiches. Yeah, of course. Who doesn't?

LOL i've thought of this one too, and i agree. i love chicken, everyone i know loves chicken, even fried chicken. i LOVE watermelon too, its one of the tastiest, sweetest fruits. i know a lot of people who aren't black who like watermelon as well.

but black people get stereotyped really hard for it. altho i do agree black people love chicken and watermelon but i'd swear a lot of people do....and there is a good reason for that.

[Godzuki]

Not all asians are good at math. You are aware when you say "asians" you are implying all asians right? That's how the premise of a generalization works. I'm dealing with logic. You are committing a fallacy.


you do realize what i said about 'not all, but many'...i.e. generaliztion/stereotype? :facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

Not all asians are good at math. You are aware when you say "asians" you are implying all asians right? That's how the premise of a generalization works. I'm dealing with logic. You are committing a fallacy.


+1

Zuki is a weirdo I don't get him sometimes.

The whole Asians being good at math theory is a prime example of a stereotype. In reality, there may be a lot of Asians who are good at math, but that does not equate to "Asians are good at math"

[Godzuki]

+1

Zuki is a weirdo I don't get him sometimes.

The whole Asians being good at math theory is a prime example of a stereotype. In reality, there may be a lot of Asians who are good at math, but that does not equate to "Asians are good at math"


the stupidity of ISH :facepalm

and i swear its based on very sensitive, insecure ego's...

[IamRAMBO24]

you do realize what i said about 'not all, but many'...i.e. generaliztion/stereotype? :facepalm

There are many people good at math from all different races. Most of the greatest mathematicians aren't even asian.

[IamRAMBO24]

+1

Zuki is a weirdo I don't get him sometimes.

The whole Asians being good at math theory is a prime example of a stereotype. In reality, there may be a lot of Asians who are good at math, but that does not equate to "Asians are good at math"

He's got issues. As an asian, I've seen this level of insecurity before; he can get emotionally riled up and that can be disconcerting.

[KNOW1EDGE]

the stupidity of ISH :facepalm

Exactly. You are stupid and fail to comprehend what a stereotype is, and what generalizing means.

You don't even understand the claims you are making. "Asians are good at math" Do you not understand what that statement claims? It claims all asians are good at math. You and I both know that is untrue. But you fail to understand the English language. :applause:

[Godzuki]

There are many people good at math from all different races. Most of the greatest mathematicians aren't even asian.


u can't use exceptions to prove a norm.

like i said there ARE racial differences...its stupid not to accept that. there ARE exceptions, stereotypes/generalizations are not saying EVERYONE, they're saying many, not all....

but i swear a lot of you are so sensitive, such politically correct sheep you refuse to accept some of these obvious realities of the world. but again its what makes a lot of u some dumb mf'ers because you're PC to a fault.

[Godzuki]

Exactly. You are stupid and fail to comprehend what a stereotype is, and what generalizing means.

You don't even understand the claims you are making. "Asians are good at math" Do you not understand what that statement claims? It claims all asians are good at math. You and I both know that is untrue. But you fail to understand the English language. :applause:


i swear some of u are dumb as fukk, despite me repeating "not all, but many" 3~ times now :facepalm

[ace23]

It is a matter of perrspective; I only deal with logic and concrete truths, while most of you deal with bullsh*t generalizations, so of course, the structure of your thinking believes it is true, but logic and reality speak otherwise.
You try so ****ing hard.

[Godzuki]

I don't even get the watermelon thing. I've known a lot of black people in my life and never, not once, did I get the impression that black people somehow love watermelon. :roll:


i fukking love watermelon, seedless watermelon tho. watermelon and oranges/tangerines :cheers:

[KNOW1EDGE]

Godzuki you are just stupid and don't understand the way the English language works.
:hammerhead:

[ace23]

+1

Zuki is a weirdo I don't get him sometimes.

The whole Asians being good at math theory is a prime example of a stereotype. In reality, there may be a lot of Asians who are good at math, but that does not equate to "Asians are good at math"
It's really not that serious. We're talking about stereotypes here. Lol @ IRamble bringing "logic and concrete truths" into this.

Asians tend to be better at math than other races. Better?

[KNOW1EDGE]

i swear some of u are dumb as fukk, despite me repeating "not all, but many" 3~ times now :facepalm

Do you want me to go back and quote how many times you stated "asians are good at math" ?

It's sad because you are really dumb but you think you are really smart. I'd like to know how old you are, and where you are in 5-10 years. Good luck little fella

[Godzuki]

He's got issues. As an asian, I've seen this level of insecurity before; he can get emotionally riled up and that can be disconcerting.

coming from someone who gets incredibly butthurt over any racial generalization or stereotype/jones, its hilarious u have the nerve to say that.

talk about insecurity/sensitivity, u have it more than anyone i've seen here. bet.

but i swear you're so fukking dumb it makes me laff how smart you think u are. its almost like u were bred from internet conspiracy videos/stupidity.

[Godzuki]

Would you say most black people are big dick, lazy criminals who are good ballers and dancers? Not all but most?


yes, i'd say many black people have much bigger dikks than white/azn people, and are better bball payers, and dancers...just not all :cheers:

oh and yes they tend to be the most criminals in America at least...which is a fact btw.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Asians tend to be better at math than other races. Better?

I dont mind these stereotypes, they don't affect me, I'm a white male living in Oregon.

But that statement is indeed a false stereotype and generalization
Asians do not tend to be better at math than other races. That is a stereotype backed up by NO data or proof.

Again, it doesn't bother me, but call it what it is, a stereotype.

Edit: Zuki is right, we are not all equal. There are a lot of black males who have larger d1cks than a lot of white males, that is an accurate statement. What is a stereotype and generalization is to say "blacks guys have big d1cks" people on ISH simply don't understand the way the English language works.

[Godzuki]

Do you want me to go back and quote how many times you stated "asians are good at math" ?

It's sad because you are really dumb but you think you are really smart. I'd like to know how old you are, and where you are in 5-10 years. Good luck little fella


lmao i think i've emphasized what is meant by generalization/stereotype at least 4 times in this thread :oldlol:

like i said you're the dumbest mf'er here tho and it shows.

[gts]

Do you want me to go back and quote how many times you stated "asians are good at math" ?

It's sad because you are really dumb but you think you are really smart. I'd like to know how old you are, and where you are in 5-10 years. Good luck little fella

Did you say that because

A.All Asians are Short

or because

B.Most Asians are Short?

Godzuki will need clarification on this before he can proceed

[Godzuki]

I dont mind these stereotypes, they don't affect me, I'm a white male living in Oregon.

But that statement is indeed a false stereotype and generalization
Asians do not tend to be better at math than other races. That is a stereotype backed up by NO data or proof.

Again, it doesn't bother me, but call it what it is, a stereotype.


that makes u worse, because you're one of those who buy into the political correctness and guilt trips. you're as big of sheep there are with very little self thinking capability that is contrary to mainstream society standards.

its rather obvious azn's tend to be good at math. there are exceptions, but to pretend there is no truth to that is ignorant as fukk. take solace in every positive generalization there are negative ones as well that can be stated....in the end fact is there ARE differences between races by and large.

[Godzuki]

Did you say that because

A.All Asians are Short

or because

B.Most Asians are Short?

Godzuki will need clarification on this before he can proceed


many azn's are short.

lets turn this around tho.'

are u saying azn's in general have bigger dikks than black people?

are u sayign azn's in general are more athletic than black people?

get back to me because i see very few azn's in the NBA, NFL, or the top sports leagues. that is not to say azn's can't be athletic but on a many/most basis....by all means get back to me if we're all apparently equal in your fictional world :facepalm

[ace23]

I dont mind these stereotypes, they don't affect me, I'm a white male living in Oregon.

But that statement is indeed a false stereotype and generalization
Asians do not tend to be better at math than other races. That is a stereotype backed up by NO data or proof.
It's actually backed up by a lot of data but ok.

[gts]

many azn's are short.

lets turn this around tho.'

are u saying azn's in general have bigger dikks than black people?

are u sayign azn's in general are more athletic than black people?

get back to me because i see very few azn's in the NBA, NFL, or the top sports leagues. that is not to say azn's can't be athletic but on a many/most basis....by all means get back to me if we're all apparently equal in your fictional world :facepalm


You need therapy

[Godzuki]

You need therapy


no i'm a realist, not living in some PC fictional reality.'

i'm a big boy, i can take the good with the bad. too bad some of u are so sensitive, insecure with such poor, unrealistic observational skills you can't be realistic.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I'd love for someone to provide a link to undisputable evidence or research that proves "asians are good at math" -if you understand the English language, which sadly Godzuki has shown he does not, you would know that is a stereotype and generalization with no factual evidence to corroborate it's truthfulness. :bowdown:

[Godzuki]

I'd love for someone to provide a link to undisputable evidence or research that proves "asians are good at math" -if you understand the English language, which sadly Godzuki has shown he does not, you would know that is a stereotype and generalization with no factual evidence to corroborate it's truthfulness. :bowdown:


lol if only i bothered to look up a study that was so obviously true in life....

but i swear this place, or the internet in general, has some of the dumbest and most unrealistic people i've seen anywhere~

[KNOW1EDGE]

lol if only i bothered to look up a study that was so obviously true in life....

but i swear this place, or the internet in general, has some of the dumbest and most unrealistic people i've seen anywhere~

Congratulations, you are the smartest and most realistic person on Earth. I am extremely surprised that you have not been noticed for your true genius.

I am inferior to the knowledge you have gained during your 14 years on this planet. You have consistently demonstrated your impeccable comprehension of the English language and basic definitions of words.

[ace23]

I'd love for someone to provide a link to undisputable evidence or research that proves "asians are good at math" -if you understand the English language, which sadly Godzuki has shown he does not, you would know that is a stereotype and generalization with no factual evidence to corroborate it's truthfulness. :bowdown:
I think we all agree here that stereotypes are not concrete facts. There does exist some empirical evidence to support the whole "Asians tend to be better at math" stereotype. You don't disagree with that, do you?

[russwest0]

basically asian women are the best and white men are the best

yessir

[TonyMontana]

Blacks having bigger penises than everyone is certainly a myth(perpetuated by the pornography industry where that certain niche is a fetish). I've been in many locker rooms and some of the smallest ***** I've seen have been black dudes. On average they arn't any different than the whites. All of the world record holders have been white guys to put it into perspective.

Blacks being the most athletic and best at all sports is another myth. While it is true that blacks are the best at sprinting sports(100 M dash, certain positions in American Football) and sports where their long arms are extremely advantageous(basketball) these are not representative of all sports. You will see whites usually dominate sports where elite skill is required (Baseball, Hockey, Quarterbacks, even Three point shooting or shooting in general in basketball), and sports where strength is required (Strongman, Offensive linemen american football...). Asians are the most flexible people and sports where a strong degree of flexibility is required is usually a sport asians tend to have a natural aptitude for.

However most stereotypes exist for a reason, and are generally true.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I think we all agree here that stereotypes are not concrete facts. There does exist some empirical evidence to support the whole "Asians tend to be better at math" stereotype. You don't disagree with that, do you?

My whole point is, that is a stereotype. And it is not a very smart thing to say, and many asians I know are offended when people say that.

There is no evidence or research to prove that asians are born with a greater understanding of mathematics compared to the rest of us.

There are a lot of asians, and a lot of Asian cultures are big on education, so it would make sense there would be a lot of Asians who are good at math. I sincerely do not believe that being born asian gives you some greater understanding of mathematics compared to being born white. That is, by definition, a stereotype and generalization. ISH refuses to acknowledge that reality.

[ace23]

My whole point is, that is a stereotype. And it is not a very smart thing to say, and many asians I know are offended when people say that.

There is no evidence or research to prove that asians are born with a greater understanding of mathematics compared to the rest of us.

There are a lot of asians, and a lot of Asian cultures are big on education, so it would make sense there would be a lot of Asians who are good at math. I sincerely do not believe that being born asian gives you some greater understanding of mathematics compared to being born white. That is, by definition, a stereotype and generalization. ISH refuses to acknowledge that reality.
I agree, but that's not the point in question. Lol.

[gts]

I agree, but that's not the point in question. Lol.

Well the thread is are there any stereotypes that are not true and he's saying the "all Asians are good at math" stereotype is not true if I'm understanding him correctly

[KNOW1EDGE]

I agree, but that's not the point in question. Lol.

Lol. Your right.

I disagree. I do not believe that "asians tend to be good at math" I believe that people who study and try hard are good at Math, regardless of race.

Just like I don't believe black people are more athletic or better at sports than other races. It's not about me being politically correct, it's about a lot of other factors which lead me to my beliefs.

[ace23]

Well the thread is are there any stereotypes that are not true and he's saying the "all Asians are good at math" stereotype is not true if I'm understanding him correctly
He didn't literally mean "all". I thought that was pretty obvious since we're discussing stereotypes which implies "exceptions" if you will.

[ace23]

Lol. Your right.

I disagree. I do not believe that "asians tend to be good at math" I believe that people who study and try hard are good at Math, regardless of race.

Just like I don't believe black people are more athletic or better at sports than other races. It's not about me being politically correct, it's about a lot of other factors which lead me to my beliefs.
You continue to deflect the point.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that there is a tendency for a race to do well in something? Lol.

I see your deflection and raise you: I do not believe that "people who study and try hard are good at math regardless of race". I believe that people who get good grades in math are good at math.

We can keep inching closer and closer to the actual statement itself, does not make the stereotype false.

[GatorKid117]

I'd say the stereotype of Asians being better at math is true. I don't have any facts or anything but just first hand experience involved in Chinese schools. I don't really think its a race thing though just more of an education system thing.

Also, not really a stereotype I guess but the whole Chinese people sounding like 'ching, chong, chang, chong' is not even close to being true.

[gts]

I guess it depends on your definition of stereotype

to me saying "all asians are good at math" is a true definition of stereotype whereas saying asians are good at math isn't quite as clear cut but probably in the end just silly semantics when you get down to it

I'm going off the standard definition

stereotype
: an often unfair and untrue belief that many people have about all people or things with a particular characteristic

[KNOW1EDGE]

What am I deflecting?

I have continued to state that I don't believe being born asian gives you any advantage in regards to mathematics comprehension.

What question have I not answered? I'm genuinely confused

[ace23]

What am I deflecting?

I have continued to state that I don't believe being born asian gives you any advantage in regards to mathematics comprehension.

What question have I not answered? I'm genuinely confused
The point is the stereotype that "Asians tend to be better at math than most races" can be backed up. It's not implied that being born gives one a genetic advantage or anything. It's just a simple observable correlation. Agree or disagree?

[KNOW1EDGE]

It's just a simple observable correlation. Agree or disagree?


Agree. It is an observable corelation that leads people to believe the untrue stereotype that asians are better at math than other races.

[ace23]

Agree. It is an observable corelation that leads people to believe the untrue stereotype that asians are better at math than other races.
Lol alright man

[NumberSix]

Agree. It is an observable corelation that leads people to believe the untrue stereotype that asians are better at math than other races.
Is it untrue though?

[KNOW1EDGE]

Lol alright man

You don't have to agree with me.lol

I would invite you to do some research, and when you find proof that asians are better at math than the rest of us please share it with ISH.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Is it untrue though?

Unless you know something I dont? Link?

[iamgine]

Stereotype that's not true:

Asians are bad drivers. If you mean bad in skill then it's not true. If you mean in politeness then it's perhaps true.

When I drive in America, I find Americans lacking the skill and experience to drive in other countries. Asians are a much better drivers because this is a daily occurence in a lot of Asian countries:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4116/4943384781_bdc7d0c8bd.jpg

[iamgine]

Asians are better at math because the culture of Asian schools and parents think that academics are the path to success. Thus this is where they compete and thus the standard of math in Asia is naturally higher. When I studied in the US, the college level math was what I had learned in grade 7.

[NumberSix]

Asians are better at math because the culture of Asian schools and parents think that academics are the path to success. Thus this is where they compete and thus the standard of math in Asia is naturally higher. When I studied in the US, the college level math was what I had learned in grade 7.
Or.........

Asians have a slighter higher average IQ than everyone else. I know, it's taboo to acknowledge this, but it is what it is.

I'm not asian, so I don't have some kind of agenda in pointing this out. It's a matter of, if it's true it's true.

[iamgine]

Or.........

Asians have a slighter higher average IQ than everyone else. I know, it's taboo to acknowledge this, but it is what it is.

I'm not asian, so I don't have some kind of agenda in pointing this out. It's a matter of, if it's true it's true.
Higher level of academics could lead to higher IQ test result.

Don't anyone mistake IQ test for intelligence capacity though.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Not all right-wingers are bigoted, women-hating homophobes.

I mean that. No seriously, stop laughing...

[BoutPractice]

Lots of them.

The worst stereotypes are those that concern the smallest minorities (think less than 1% of the population). The "conspiratorial, money-grubbing Jew", of course, is the most infamous. The idea that Jews are somehow intent on world domination is disturbingly common to this day, further proof that man is not a rational animal.

[TheMan]

Lots of them.

The worst stereotypes are those that concern the smallest minorities (think less than 1% of the population). The "conspiratorial, money-grubbing Jew", of course, is the most infamous. The idea that Jews are somehow intent on world domination is disturbingly common to this day, further proof that man is not a rational animal.
That one is a result from the Rothschild family I think. Obviously not all Jews are rich greedy businessmen, but there are some Jews who are like that but then again there's WASPs, Asians, Latino, Black businessmen like that too...

One stereotype that bothers me and it's perpetrated by racist, xenephobes from the right is that illegal aliens come here to get on welfare. That's a load of bullshit, those people come here to work and send money to their families. Since they're here illegaly and living in the shadows, the last thing they want to do is go to a government office and have to show proof they belong here:facepalm

Another one is that all Mexican Americans descended from illegal aliens. M'fers, there's always been Mexicans in the US, especially after the US landgrabbed half of Mexico's territory in the mid 1800's. They didn't deport all those Mexicans who were living in California, Texas, Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico etc before the gringos started with their bullshit Manifest Destiny...

[~primetime~]

I've always viewed stereotypes as generalizations... I think everyone does, nothing wrong with that either. No one thinks literally every single Asian is good at math. But if Asians are better than most at math on average then the stereotype fits.

irrc women are statistically better drivers than men are and the stereotype is the opposite.

[JohnnySic]

Stereotypes are funny. Keep 'em coming.

[PullupJay]

"Jews are cheap"

Not true at all in my opinion. Many Jews (secular or religious) give charity. Jews are required to give 10 percent of their weekly salary to a charity.

It might seem like they are cheap but they are really just against spending money frivolously which is related to over-indulgence which is linked to sin.

:confusedshrug:

[BasedTom]

the whole "Protestant work ethic" thing is the biggest load of bullshit ever.

[MavsSuperFan]

I dont think redheads necessarily are fiery; in fact most redheads I know tend to be a little shy.

Also mexicans get a bad rap for being lazy.
In my experience Mexicans are the hardest workers. They do jobs, for wages I would never do. I have seen Mexican men mow huge lawns with a push mower for $20. Literally using a push mower on lawns that justify the use of a riding mower.

Obviously all stereotypes are false if you require it to be true for everyone, but I would say these are the only 2 stereotypes that I have no idea where they started. every other stereotype no matter how complimentary or offensive, I can at least see where the stereotype started. Obviously there are exceptions to every stereotype. Eg. I knew a pot smoking, lazy, stupid, asian guy. A huge slacker that was not driven at all.

[MavsSuperFan]

the whole "Protestant work ethic" thing is the biggest load of bullshit ever.
Is that even a stereotype in 2014? I mean sure in 1914 that was a stereotype, but in 2014, whites are correctly considered the most spoiled, laziest people. Eg. I have water delivered to me. I am too lazy to fill the bottles myself.

[MavsSuperFan]

In my experience, the stereotype that black people don't tip is largely untrue. I've worked a lot of gratuity based jobs and was never stiffed by black people any more than others.
go through some of the tipping threads on this forum. Either a bunch of posters claiming to be black are super anti tipping or this stereotype has some truth

[MavsSuperFan]

I never understood it, either. Who the fvck doesn't like chicken? Chappelle said it best.
In fact I think less of people that dont like fried chicken. If it wasnt for the fact that I would die/be incredibly obese, I would eat fried chicken every single day. Any form of chicken is fantastic. Fried is the best imo

[MavsSuperFan]

+1

Zuki is a weirdo I don't get him sometimes.

The whole Asians being good at math theory is a prime example of a stereotype. In reality, there may be a lot of Asians who are good at math, but that does not equate to "Asians are good at math"
obviously not all asians are good at math, but asian immigrants to america are disproportionately good at math.

My high school was less than 5% asian. (i am probably being generous with giving them 5%)

almost half of the AP math class was asian kids. The same was true for many of the advanced classes.

I personally think this had to do with the fact that the immigration process from asia is difficult and it is a biased selection. Eg. only good candidates get through, thus why their kids do disproportionately well academically

Eg. in america i have never seen a homeless asian guy. When i went to shanghai I saw tons of street people.

The immigration process would stop those untalented asians from getting here. We only allow asians who either, are coming here to study in university, or have a job/career lined up already (usually high paying if they are coming halfway around the world), and/or they agree to invest in a business and create jobs (meaning they are already rich).

[TheMan]

How about the stereotype that black people are overly expressive in movie theaters, like that they yell at the movie screen during a horror film? Any truth to that?

[Godzuki]

asian americans are good at math as well, at the least above average vs the general population by and large. its not just about being educated more on it overseas.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Blacks having bigger penises than everyone is certainly a myth(perpetuated by the pornography industry where that certain niche is a fetish). I've been in many locker rooms and some of the smallest ***** I've seen have been black dudes. On average they arn't any different than the whites. All of the world record holders have been white guys to put it into perspective.

Blacks being the most athletic and best at all sports is another myth. While it is true that blacks are the best at sprinting sports(100 M dash, certain positions in American Football) and sports where their long arms are extremely advantageous(basketball) these are not representative of all sports. You will see whites usually dominate sports where elite skill is required (Baseball, Hockey, Quarterbacks, even Three point shooting or shooting in general in basketball), and sports where strength is required (Strongman, Offensive linemen american football...). Asians are the most flexible people and sports where a strong degree of flexibility is required is usually a sport asians tend to have a natural aptitude for.

However most stereotypes exist for a reason, and are generally true.


Translation: Every positive stereotype about the black man is a myth. The negatives ones? Those are more or less spot on.

Dipshit.

[Jameerthefear]

I find it funnier that he basically suggested he'd stare at cocks in locker rooms to build his own conclusion on pen1s size.
:roll:

[BasedTom]

I find it funnier that he basically suggested he'd stare at cocks in locker rooms to build his own conclusion on pen1s size.
Anecdotal evidence is indeed very weak. But thinking that porn is in any way representative of reality is another level of retardation

[Bandito]

Stereotypes are a form of generalization, which is the lowest level of thinking. The educational system conditions students to think this way (why do you think you do classification, outlines, grouping, and multiple choice questions, etc.?), so truth is found based on the whole, which is fallacious in nature.

The highest truths are in the concrete. It is a flawed perspective, hence why racist and dumb people ride stereotypes as their only form of intellect.
:biggums:

You mean the highest truth is concrete?

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Mexicans are lazy. Don't know where that one came from. On the contrary, Mexicans should be stereotyped as being hard working people.
Probably because of the practice of siesta. People saw them taking a nap in the middle of the day and called them lazy. The practice of siesta comes from Mexican workers being physically unable to work in the sun at midday. It's either work in the sun and get heat stroke, or take a nap in the shade. Plus, rather than working 8 hours, they work 4 hours twice a day. They're actually more productive that way.

I never thought Mexicans were lazy though. I thought the stereotype was they are all hard workers who are willing to do shit jobs Americans wouldn't do for well below min wage.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

That people with English accents are civil and sophisticated.

[Jasi]

We have this stereotype in Italy about the Portuguese being cheapskates and in particular always trying to find a way to avoid paying for services.
This stereotype is the outcome of a misunderstanding, therefore obviously it's false

The misunderstanding stems from the fact that once in ancient times (don't remember exactly what century) there was a Portuguese delegation visiting in some Italian city. As guests, all members of the Portuguese delegation had free access to theaters, shows, etc throughout the city.
Now, some inhabitants of the city tried to disguise as Portuguese in order not to pay for access to shows.
Hence the saying "behave like a Portuguese" meaning "trying to find a way to avoid paying".
In time, "act like a Portuguese in order not to pay" became "behave like Portuguese who are cheapskates".

So, this stereotype is clearly false.

[Jailblazers7]

We have this stereotype in Italy about the Portuguese being cheapskates and in particular always trying to find a way to avoid paying for services.
This stereotype is the outcome of a misunderstanding, therefore obviously it's false

The misunderstanding stems from the fact that once in ancient times (don't remember exactly what century) there was a Portuguese delegation visiting in some Italian city. As guests, all members of the Portuguese delegation had free access to theaters, shows, etc throughout the city.
Now, some inhabitants of the city tried to disguise as Portuguese in order not to pay for access to shows.
Hence the saying "behave like a Portuguese" meaning "trying to find a way to avoid paying".
In time, "act like a Portuguese in order not to pay" became "behave like Portuguese who are cheapskates".

So, this stereotype is clearly false.

Damn those corrupt Italians. :D

[Jasi]

Damn those corrupt Italians. :D

:oldlol:
Not as much as Russians though.

[CeltsGarlic]

People in lith say that italians or anyone else from south/west europe, but more particularly in Italy people are always late.

[niko]

There's nothing wrong with stereotypes unless you are living your life based on them. If a black person walks in your store and you take out the shotgun because more blacks steal, that's a problem.

[Jasi]

People in lith say that italians or anyone else from south/west europe, but more particularly in Italy people are always late.

Same applies in Italy between North and South (with the latter being the late ones of course). There is surely some truth to this.

Oh and speaking of Lithuania, goes with saying that Baltic women are the among the most beautiful on the planet :cheers:

[GatorKid117]

I can't tell the difference between Chinese and Korean but Japanese language has a distinctive sound and it does sound a lot easier to speak also. Probably explains why Westerners have an easier time learning Japanese than the other two.

I've been studying Mandarin off/on the past 2 years unsuccessfully I might add and I know what you mean. Mandarin is a pretty ugly language; everyone shouts when they speak it and it doesn't sound nice. Japanese sounds so much better and even without studying Japanese at all I feel like I can differentiate separate words.

Tones are the worst. I feel like I would be so much further long if "shi" didn't mean 500 different things depending on how you use it and how you say it :mad:

[NumberSix]

Probably because of the practice of siesta. People saw them taking a nap in the middle of the day and called them lazy. The practice of siesta comes from Mexican workers being physically unable to work in the sun at midday. It's either work in the sun and get heat stroke, or take a nap in the shade. Plus, rather than working 8 hours, they work 4 hours twice a day. They're actually more productive that way.

I never thought Mexicans were lazy though. I thought the stereotype was they are all hard workers who are willing to do shit jobs Americans wouldn't do for well below min wage.
Siesta is a custom from Spain.

[RidonKs]

the definition of a stereotype is a phenomena observed in a particular sect of people. maybe the same phenomena can be observed in any group of people and the "asian women" or "black teenager" or "vague hipster" just happened to have been targeted in on. or maybe the stereotype accurately reflects a specific and unique cultural aspect.

whatever the case, you're right in that all stereotypes -- at least all widely accepted stereotypes subject to definition in itself -- are true.

[CeltsGarlic]

Same applies in Italy between North and South (with the latter being the late ones of course). There is surely some truth to this.

Oh and speaking of Lithuania, goes with saying that Baltic women are the among the most beautiful on the planet :cheers:


oh you :cheers:

[TheMan]

Siesta is a custom from Spain.
Do you find it surprising that Mexico might be influenced by Spain:confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

Do you find it surprising that Mexico might be influenced by Spain:confusedshrug:
Just pointing out that his explanation of that custom originating in Mexico is wrong. It didn't originate in Mexico. It was brought to Mexico by the Spanish.

[Godzuki]

Charlie Sheen is taking sides in the "Tip War" involving NFL star LeSean McCoy -- claiming he's giving $1,000 to the waiter McCoy stiffed after a controversial lunch earlier this week.

Actually, it wasn't a technical "stiffing" -- the Philadelphia Eagles running back tipped a waiter named Rob 20 cents on a $61.56 meal at PYT restaurant in Philly. McCoy reportedly felt he was mistreated inside the restaurant.

The receipt -- with the 20 cent tip -- was later posted on social media by the owner of the restaurant, Tommy Up.

Now, Charlie Sheen is getting involved ... issuing a statement saying, "dear Tommy Up at PYT in Philly. Please tell Rob K I'm pledging 1000 dollars to him for the tip debacle just wanna help. c #NoJudgement"

So far, McCoy has been mum on the tip situation.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz3CwRzudnH

[PHX_Phan]

go through some of the tipping threads on this forum. Either a bunch of posters claiming to be black are super anti tipping or this stereotype has some truth

I've read through most, if not all of them. Not everyone agrees with tipping, but most still do it. I'd also wager to say that a huge portion of the people that claim they never do, actually do tip when they go out. Things are different in person when it comes time to pay the bill. Getting on a forum and saying you stiff every server you see is much easier and less confrontational.

From my experience, though, the stereotype just perpetuates itself. Because of the stigma, every time a black person doesn't tip, it's going to stick in that server/drivers head. All of the drivers I work with will tell you that black people rarely tip them. Either it's all in their heads, or I'm just the one-off person that they tip :confusedshrug: