I present to you an alltime list far worse than anything you've ever seen before.....

[russwest0]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Magic Johnson
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Tim Duncan
7. Larry Bird
8. Bill Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Julius Erving
14. Kevin Garnett
15. Moses Malone
16. Karl Malone
17. Charles Barkley

This was done on a football forum that polled their users to get their answers

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[Le Shaqtus]

Do these users also happen to post on InsideHoops? :lol

[Encre92]

Good list. OP mad KD nowhere to be found?

[J Shuttlesworth]

I think that list will be pretty accurate once LeBron retires (at least the top 10)

[russwest0]

Do these users also happen to post on InsideHoops? :lol

I hope not :lol

It's funny to see how predominantly football fans rank basketball players. You had guys in there asking who bill russell even was :lol

[russwest0]

I think that list will be pretty accurate once LeBron retires (at least the top 10)

Damn, how many more rings do you see LeBron getting?

[dubeta]

Dont see the problem

[kennethgriffin]

well i don't know much about football

someone here tell me if my top 10 list is good


#1 Jim Brown
#2 Barry Sanders
#3 LT
#4 Jerry Rice
#5 Joe Montana
#6 Peyton Manning
#7 Tom Brady
#8 Deion Sanders
#9 Emmitt Smith
#10 Brett Favre

[J Shuttlesworth]

How many more rings do you see LeBron getting?
I see 2-3 more as the FMVP of all of them.

I see something like this:
4-5x NBA champion
4-5x FMVP
5 MVP

I could be completely wrong. Cavs have a solid young core, and what if Love/Irving are leading LeBron to rings when LeBron is old? Or what if Cavs end up being a complete bust?

Russell is way too low on that list though

[fpliii]

There aren't 8 players better than Hakeem, or 13 better than KG. Christ. :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Magic Johnson
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Tim Duncan
7. Larry Bird
8. Bill Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Julius Erving
14. Kevin Garnett
15. Moses Malone
16. Karl Malone
17. Charles Barkley

This was done on a football forum that polled their users to get their answers

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link or i call BS

[SamuraiSWISH]

well i don't know much about football

someone here tell me if my top 10 list is good


#1 Jim Brown
#2 Barry Sanders
#3 LT
#4 Jerry Rice
#5 Joe Montana
#6 Peyton Manning
#7 Tom Brady
#8 Deion Sanders
#9 Emmitt Smith
#10 Brett Favre
Emmitt Smith, LT better than Walter Payton ... umm ok?

:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

I see 2-3 more as the FMVP of all of them.

I see something like this:
4-5x NBA champion
4-5x FMVP
5 MVP

I could be completely wrong. Cavs have a solid young core, and what if Love/Irving are leading LeBron to rings when LeBron is old? Or what if Cavs end up being a complete bust?

Russell is way too low on that list though


so after 11 years and lebron only having maybe 3-4 more prime seasons. you see him winning 3 more titles and 3 more finals mvps?

dude he'l be lucky to get one by the time they start clicking. and thats if its a success in cleveland


this isnt like the miami situation where lebron was 26... hes 30 now

[GODbe]

:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

Emmitt Smith, LT better than Walter Payton ... umm ok?

:facepalm

see.. i don't know jack about football off the top of my head. i forgot about walter payton..


this is why fans of football making a top 10 list is pretty much senseless... especially considering i've probably watched more football the last 2 years than football fans have watched NBA

[dubeta]

so after 11 years and lebron only having maybe 3-4 more prime seasons. you see him winning 3 more titles and 3 more finals mvps?

dude he'l be lucky to get one by the time they start clicking. and thats if its a success in cleveland


this isnt like the miami situation where lebron was 26... hes 30 now

Kobe had 0 FMVPs and 3 rings at 30 dont forget :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

well i don't know much about football

someone here tell me if my top 10 list is good


#1 Jim Brown
#2 Barry Sanders
#3 LT
#4 Jerry Rice
#5 Joe Montana
#6 Peyton Manning
#7 Tom Brady
#8 Deion Sanders
#9 Emmitt Smith
#10 Brett Favre
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/kill_it_with_fire.gif


Emmitt Smith, LT better than Walter Payton ... umm ok?

:facepalm

Walter Payton ain't even on dude's list. :lol

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/kill_it_with_fire.gif



Walter Payton ain't even on dude's list. :lol

i said before the list i don't know much about football.. it wasnt to show you my knowledge of football

it was to show you guys that you can't really blame those nfl fans for making a sh*tty list...

i've heard of walter payton. but i never seen the guy play


i dont like football lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

so after 11 years and lebron only having maybe 3-4 more prime seasons. you see him winning 3 more titles and 3 more finals mvps?

dude he'l be lucky to get one by the time they start clicking. and thats if its a success in cleveland


this isnt like the miami situation where lebron was 26... hes 30 now
I think his game has aged extremely well, and he's still 29. I could definitely see Cleveland winning 2 of the next 3 rings. As he starts to decline, Kyrie and Love will be in their primes.

[Marchesk]

see.. i don't know jack about football off the top of my head. i forgot about walter payton..


this is why fans of football making a top 10 list is pretty much senseless... especially considering i've probably watched more football the last 2 years than football fans have watched NBA

Also, Jim Brown's the only one before the 80s that you have on your list. And you only have 2 defenders, which is half the game.

Football top 10 is much worse than basketball, given that you have separate defensive, offensive and special teams units, and the game changes over time even more than basketball. Plus QBs and RBs get so much praise when they're near totally reliant on their offensive line.

[kennethgriffin]

i've never had respect for football because 99% of its players are 1 dimensional

and its like nearly all athleticism or size/strength

which is why most players only last a decade.

even the great ones.


only position worth any respect is QB cause they can do possibly 2 things. throw or run

nobody else has 2 possibilities



either RUN FAST

or

RUN FAST

or

RUN FAST


then theres

either HIT HARD

or HIT HARD

or HIT HARD



**** football LOL...

[kennethgriffin]

Also, Jim Brown's the only one before the 80s that you have on your list. And you only have 2 defenders, which is half the game.

Football top 10 is much worse than basketball, given that you have separate defensive, offensive and special teams units, and the game changes over time even more than basketball. Plus QBs and RBs get so much praise when they're near totally reliant on their offensive line.
i dont care

:lol :roll:


f*ck that gay sh*t

[kennethgriffin]

i'l explain why football sucks


to make a great baseball team. you need great baseball players

to make a great basketball team. you need great basketball players

to make a great hockey team. you need great hockey players

but to make a great football team

all you need is

a few great baseball pitchers

a few great baseball outfielders

some great amatuer wrestlers

a few great soccer kickers

some great track stars

a few great sumo wrestlers

and maybe a few tall athletic strong small forward basketball players







in hockey theres a specific skill for skating, shooting

in basketball theres a specific skill for shooting, dribbling

in baseball theres a specific skill for hitting


but it football there is no unique skill that cant be transfered from another sport..

no unique talent

[J Shuttlesworth]

kenneth, please continue this great essay you are compiling

[fpliii]

griff - What are your top 5 sports?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You could've just said that you're Canadian and hate football. :confusedshrug:

[russwest0]

griff - What are your top 5 sports?

:roll:

[kennethgriffin]

griff - What are your top 5 sports?


personally my 5 favorite sports are

#1 basketball
#2 hockey
#3 baseball
#4 golf
#5 tennis


and soccer is ok during the world cup

but those 5 sports i can watch all day... tennis is underrated IMO


female tennis is fun to watch. more so than mens. and not cause of the girls looking hot. but because theyre not as strong so each point can go back and forth for a long time. pretty fun to watch

[Jlamb47]

That list is stupid
Seeing Shaq and Kobe not in the top 10 made me not care

[Smoke117]

Not sure what you have your jimmies in a bunch over? It's not a bad list at all.

[Smoke117]

personally my 5 favorite sports are

#1 basketball
#2 hockey
#3 baseball
#4 golf
#5 tennis


and soccer is ok during the world cup

but those 5 sports i can watch all day... tennis is underrated IMO


female tennis is fun to watch. more so than mens. and not cause of the girls looking hot. but because theyre not as strong so each point can go back and forth for a long time. pretty fun to watch

What womens tennis have you been watching? The woman's game has been garbage for awhile. These bitches can't even keep up a rally without the inevitable unforced error three or four shots in. It has nothing to do with what they look like...it's just not good tennis for the most part unless you really enjoy unforced error after unforced error.

[kennethgriffin]

What womens tennis have you been watching? The woman's game has been garbage for awhile. These bitches can't even keep up a rally without the inevitable unforced error three or four shots in. It has nothing to do with what they look like...it's just not good tennis for the most part unless you really enjoy unforced error after unforced error.


agreed that its not as good as it once was. but i was a martina hingis fan


still... tennis as a whole has more skill than football

[JT123]

I see nothing wrong with this list. :wtf:
Pretty sad that NFL fans are more knowledgeable than your average ISH poster. OP is clearly butt hurt that the OBJECTIVE fans outside of this board don't have Kobe in the top 10. :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

personally my 5 favorite sports are

#1 basketball
#2 hockey
#3 baseball
#4 golf
#5 tennis


and soccer is ok during the world cup

but those 5 sports i can watch all day... tennis is underrated IMO


female tennis is fun to watch. more so than mens. and not cause of the girls looking hot. but because theyre not as strong so each point can go back and forth for a long time. pretty fun to watch
No boxing or MMA? Tennis, baseball and golf:biggums: :biggums: You 60yo nikka?

[Thorpesaurous]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Magic Johnson
5. Wilt Chamberlain
6. Tim Duncan
7. Larry Bird
8. Bill Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Oscar Robertson
13. Julius Erving
14. Kevin Garnett
15. Moses Malone
16. Karl Malone
17. Charles Barkley

This was done on a football forum that polled their users to get their answers

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I didn't read all the responses here, but I don't actually mind that list, mostly because the top 8, even though they're not in the order I'd have them, I consider the elite 8 of all time, because they meet my admittedly somewhat arbitrary requirements of having multiple MVPs and multiple titles. They are the only 8 like that (excluding Mikan, which I'm willing to do).

So this doesn't bother me that much.

[kennethgriffin]

No boxing or MMA? Tennis, baseball and golf:biggums: :biggums: You 60yo nikka?



i tend to separate fighting into a different catigory

and golf is one of my biggest passions. as good as i am at basketball i'm twice as good at golf. and i'm 30

i dont really consider hitting someone in the face as the same "sport" classification as throwing a ball through something

hard to mix the 2

but i like all combat sports..

i like racing sports

i like bowling

i like darts

i like table tennis..


but seriously.. anything could be labled a sport right? so its best not to mix everything together

[kennethgriffin]

lets just say those 5 are my favorite ball or puck sports

[pauk]

From a peak/domination/impact and/or strictly individual overall talent/skill criteria aspect that list doesnt seem to absurd... I mean an alltime list looks completely different depending on if you are going after strictly accolades with no context, accolades with context, players individual skill/talent and/or peak/domination.... a combination of all.... whatever your criteria is.... add a bit of bias aswell....

There is a reason no such thing exists and there is a reason everyones alltime lists look somewhat different in order..... there is "Best players of all time" or "10 best players of all time" but ranking them in order is actually impossible to do in a accurate way, where everybody will agree upon....

Its not that easy, this is not Tennis... a 1vs1 sport where you can truly see how great a player is, there is nobody else around him to affect the outcome of the game except for himself, where the best player ALWAYS wins...... but in basketball you can be the greatest player to ever lace em up and end up not winning a championship or not win enough, simply because this is a team game....

[kennethgriffin]

From a peak/domination/impact and/or strictly individual overall talent/skill criteria aspect that list doesnt seem to absurd... I mean an alltime list looks completely different depending on if you are going after strictly accolades with no context, accolades with context, players individual skill/talent and/or peak/domination.... a combination of all.... whatever your criteria is.... add a bit of bias aswell....

There is a reason no such thing exists and there is a reason everyones alltime lists look somewhat different in order..... there is "Best players of all time" or "10 best players of all time" but ranking them in order is actually impossible to do in a accurate way, where everybody will agree upon....

Its not that easy, this is not Tennis... a 1vs1 sport where you can truly see how great a player is, there is nobody else around him to affect the outcome of the game except for himself, where the best player ALWAYS wins...... but in basketball you can be the greatest player to ever lace em up and end up not winning a championship or not win enough, simply because this is a team game....


your're the biggest dumbass on ISH.. its official

you got 9 guys over shaq in terms of overall prime, peak, dominance


you only like this list cause lebron is higher on it than any other list ever made. and you're jizzing in your panties


gtfo hobo SCUM

[dubeta]

From a peak/domination/impact and/or strictly individual overall talent/skill criteria aspect that list doesnt seem to absurd... I mean an alltime list looks completely different depending on if you are going after strictly accolades with no context, accolades with context, players individual skill/talent and/or peak/domination.... a combination of all.... whatever your criteria is.... add a bit of bias aswell....

There is a reason no such thing exists and there is a reason everyones alltime lists look somewhat different in order..... there is "Best players of all time" or "10 best players of all time" but ranking them in order is actually impossible to do in a accurate way, where everybody will agree upon....

Its not that easy, this is not Tennis... a 1vs1 sport where you can truly see how great a player is, there is nobody else around him to affect the outcome of the game except for himself, where the best player ALWAYS wins...... but in basketball you can be the greatest player to ever lace em up and end up not winning a championship or not win enough, simply because this is a team game....

:applause:

[JT123]

your're the biggest dumbass on ISH.. its official

you got 9 guys over shaq in terms of overall prime, peak, dominance


you only like this list cause lebron is higher on it than any other list ever made. and you're jizzing in your panties


gtfo hobo SCUM
:oldlol: Kenneth catching feelings over Pauk's post. You wouldn't be this upset unless you knew on some level that Pauk was telling the truth. :yaohappy:

[dubeta]

your're the biggest dumbass on ISH.. its official

you got 9 guys over shaq in terms of overall prime, peak, dominance


you only like this list cause lebron is higher on it than any other list ever made. and you're jizzing in your panties


gtfo hobo SCUM


Kobe has to worry about first catching Parker, before we can compare him to the GOATS :no:

[pauk]

your're the biggest dumbass on ISH.. its official

you got 9 guys over shaq in terms of overall prime, peak, dominance


you only like this list cause lebron is higher on it than any other list ever made. and you're jizzing in your panties


gtfo hobo SCUM

Its not my list.... and yes, Shaq would be higher in my list (for any criteria), but i still can see the argument for those 9 guys above him there....

..and what the hell is wrong with you? I am not sure what i said to initiate such feelings from you anyways, calm down....

[AnaheimLakers24]

Its not my list.... and yes, Shaq would be higher in my list (for any criteria), but i still can see the argument for those 9 guys above him there....

..and what the hell is wrong with you? I am not sure what i said to initiate such feelings from you anyways, calm down....
this small dick nikka is finally back from hiding :roll: