One thing that I like about Lebron...

[Real14]

is his dunks.

http://fanatchicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Lebron-dunk.jpg

CAREER POSTER DUNKS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4tc3dHVC98

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

[JT123]

Undercover Lebron stan confirmed!
Welcome to the family, bro. :cheers: :oldlol:

[Real14]

Undercover Lebron stan confirmed!
Welcome to the family, bro. :cheers: :oldlol:
:coleman:

[Smook A.]

I like 'em too. Not the best, but they're pretty cool.

[Warfan]

Outside of the one handed tomahawk he does 90% of the time, lebrons dunks consist of:

- Alley-oop
- And sometimes a windmill

:bowdown:

Edit: can't type properly on my phone

[Real14]

I like 'em too. Not the best, but they're pretty cool.
Yup, its too bad he don't have that mj/kobe mentality though. He could of been real great.

[Real14]

Lebrons dunks consist of:

- Tomahawk
- Alley-oop

:bowdown:

I know, maybe cuz of the power (or steroids) that makes it look real amazing idk :confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffin]

his dunks are pretty boring these days.

hes done that 1 handed tomahawk dunk like 2000 out of 2300 career dunks

and the other 300 are alleyoop 2 handed safety dunks


plus he hasnt been able to get up like he used to. i remember on cleveland he almost did a full on free throw line dunk


he cant come close to doing that anymore

[Cocaine80s]

his dunks are pretty boring these days.

hes done that 1 handed tomahawk dunk like 2000 out of 2300 career dunks

and the other 300 are alleyoop 2 handed safety dunks


plus he hasnt been able to get up like he used to. i remember on cleveland he almost did a full on free throw line dunk


he cant come close to doing that anymore
i dont think anyone in the league can pull that off

[Real14]

his dunks are pretty boring these days.

hes done that 1 handed tomahawk dunk like 2000 out of 2300 career dunks

and the other 300 are alleyoop 2 handed safety dunks


plus he hasnt been able to get up like he used to. i remember on cleveland he almost did a full on free throw line dunk


he cant come close to doing that anymore

yea that's when he was crazy with it. Its too bad that he was too puhcee to enter the slam dunk contests. I was upset because I actually wanted to give him a chance back then but he showed his true colors of being a bitch.

[Milbuck]

Doesn't have a whole lot of variety..but his dunks are so damn explosive/powerful it doesn't matter. It's like Karl Malone dunking with Nate Robinson's athleticism..

I will say, the one thing I respect about James Harden's game is that his dunks are like a left handed lite-version of Lebron's dunks.

[JT123]

Lebrons dunks consist of:

- Tomahawk
- Alley-oop

:bowdown:
His dunks are amazing and you know it. :oldlol:
Why do you think fans in every NBA city pay so much money to watch him? Because his dunks are BOX OFFICE! :bowdown: :bowdown:

[JT123]

I will say, the one thing I respect about James Harden's game is that his dunks are like a left handed lite-version of Lebron's dunks.
Undercover Harden stan confirmed! I knew all that hatred and venom was nothing but love and desire in disguise. :banana:

[kennethgriffin]

kobe is a way better in game dunker ( and dunk contest dunker by default i guess )


kobe does

- 1 handed tomahawk
- 1 handed windmill ( full extension )
- 1 handed 360
- 2 handed 360
- alley oop 1 hand
- alley oop 2 hand
- double pump reverse
- 2 handed cradle
- behind the back gather 360
- off backboard self pass alley oop
- reverse baseline windmill
- reverse baseline 180
- hammer no look behind head
- 2 handed behind head pump
- also left handed for half of these dunks*

and in the dunk contest he did a between the legs to cap it off

and invented the elbow dunk and behind the back 360 ( not done in games )


and many more i'm sure


kobe in terms of creativity is leaps and bounds ahead of lebron

[Cocaine80s]

kobe is a way better in game dunker ( and dunk contest dunker by default i guess )


kobe does

- 1 handed tomahawk
- 1 handed windmill ( full extension )
- 1 handed 360
- 2 handed 360
- alley oop 1 hand
- alley oop 2 hand
- double pump reverse
- 2 handed cradle
- behind the back gather 360
- off backboard self pass alley oop
- reverse baseline windmill
- reverse baseline 180
- hammer no look behind head
- 2 handed behind head pump
- also left handed for half of these dunks*

and in the dunk contest he did a between the legs to cap it off


and many more i'm sure


kobe in terms of creativity is leaps and bounds ahead of lebron

lebron did all of those.

also he did a between the leg in a game

[Real14]

kobe is a way better in game dunker ( and dunk contest dunker by default i guess )


kobe does

- 1 handed tomahawk
- 1 handed windmill ( full extension )
- 1 handed 360
- 2 handed 360
- alley oop 1 hand
- alley oop 2 hand
- double pump reverse
- 2 handed cradle
- behind the back gather 360
- off backboard self pass alley oop
- reverse baseline windmill
- reverse baseline 180
- hammer no look behind head
- 2 handed behind head pump
- also left handed for half of these dunks*

and in the dunk contest he did a between the legs to cap it off


and many more i'm sure


kobe in terms of creativity is leaps and bounds ahead of lebron

I agree that Kobe is a more creative dunker meanwhile Lebron is more powerful dunker.

[kennethgriffin]

invented kobe dunks

www.youtube.com/watch?v=JajnUtkJG6Q#t=0m20s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLK0rz9pqDc

[JT123]

kobe is a way better in game dunker ( and dunk contest dunker by default i guess )


kobe does

- 1 handed tomahawk
- 1 handed windmill ( full extension )
- 1 handed 360
- 2 handed 360
- alley oop 1 hand
- alley oop 2 hand
- double pump reverse
- 2 handed cradle
- behind the back gather 360
- off backboard self pass alley oop
- reverse baseline windmill
- reverse baseline 180
- hammer no look behind head
- 2 handed behind head pump
- also left handed for half of these dunks*

and in the dunk contest he did a between the legs to cap it off

and invented the elbow dunk and behind the back 360 ( not done in games )


and many more i'm sure


kobe in terms of creativity is leaps and bounds ahead of lebron
Sorry, but you're wrong. When Kobe retires no when will ever remember him as being a great dunker. He will be remembered for being able to make difficult shots, but not great dunks.
Lebron has fans so impressed with his in game dunks they are begging him to join the slam dunk contest, even after being in the league for over a decade! :bowdown: But Bron knows that it is best to always leave them wanting more. :pimp:

[Warfan]

Kobe's is a much better in game dunker than bron. Don't kid yourself

[Real14]

Sorry, but you're wrong. When Kobe retires no when will ever remember him as being a great dunker. He will be remembered for being able to make difficult shots, but not great dunks.
Lebron has fans so impressed with his in game dunks they are begging him to join the slam dunk contest, even after being in the league for over a decade! :bowdown: But Bron knows that it is best to always leave them wanting more. :pimp:
I beg to differ. People will remember Kobe actually having the balls to enter a damn dunk contest and winning on top of that which is the exact opposite of what Lebron accomplished in his career.

[Real14]

Kobe's is a much better in game dunker than bron. Don't kid yourself
I agree.

[KNOW1EDGE]

He has NEVER been in trouble.
Never hit his girl, never failed a drug test, no DUIs, no rape cases, no gun charges etc etc

LBJ is the best player in the world under an even bigger microscope and he has never been caught doing anything illegal or immoral.

That's what I like about Lebron

[JT123]

Kobe's is a much better in game dunker than bron. Don't kid yourself
reported

[Milbuck]

Frobe is a clear top 10 in-game dunker imo..and at his absolute best has a case for top 5 behind Vince, Nique, MJ, Dr J. Very underrated athletically back then, and unparalleled creativity.

Lebron would easily win the dunk contest if joined and gave a shit about it.

[Real14]

He has NEVER been in trouble.
Never hit his girl, never failed a drug test, no DUIs, no rape cases, no gun charges etc etc

LBJ is the best player in the world under an even bigger microscope and he has never been caught doing anything illegal or immoral.

That's what I like about Lebron
http://i.imgur.com/9iL0KyL.png

[Beastmode88]

Kind of boring if you ask me, all his dunks are power dunks nothing flashy. MJ and Kobe's dunked on so many centers compared to Lebron, I have yet to see Lebron dunk on anyone but guards.

[JT123]

He has NEVER been in trouble.
Never hit his girl, never failed a drug test, no DUIs, no rape cases, no gun charges etc etc

LBJ is the best player in the world under an even bigger microscope and he has never been caught doing anything illegal or immoral.

That's what I like about Lebron
Lebron is not only the best athlete in all of sports, but the best human being as well. :applause:
Loyal family man, always thinks of his teammates first, and always honors his commitments. Pretty crazy that the worst thing he has ever done is pump up a crowd of Heat fans by joking about bringing them 8 Championships.

[Real14]

Frobe is a clear top 10 in-game dunker imo..and at his absolute best has a case for top 5 behind Vince, Nique, MJ, Dr J. Very underrated athletically back then, and unparalleled creativity.

Lebron would easily win the dunk contest if joined and gave a shit about it.
That's one of the main reasons why I cant stand him. Millions of people including NBA legends would kill to have his athletic ability. His potential was always amazing but he just never had that mentality.

[Real14]

Kind of boring if you ask me, all his dunks are power dunks nothing flashy. MJ and Kobe's dunked on so many centers compared to Lebron, I have yet to see Lebron dunk on anyone but guards.
His athletic ability and dunking ability is the very opposite of boring. The style and power that he uses on his dunks especially in his young Cleveland days were nothing to yawn at.

[Cocaine80s]

That's one of the main reasons why I cant stand him. Millions of people including NBA legends would kill to have his athletic ability. His potential was always amazing but he just never had that mentality.
you act like him entering the dunk contest will cure cancer

[Real14]

Lebron is not only the best athlete in all of sports, but the best human being as well. :applause:
Loyal family man, always thinks of his teammates first, and always honors his commitments. Pretty crazy that the worst thing he has ever done is pump up a crowd of Heat fans by joking about bringing them 8 Championships.
http://damelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Wade-Bosh.jpg

[Warfan]

Kind of boring if you ask me, all his dunks are power dunks nothing flashy. MJ and Kobe's dunked on so many centers compared to Lebron, I have yet to see Lebron dunk on anyone but guards.

This is just flat out wrong. He has dunked on plenty of bigs (duncan, KG, Zo, sheed etc), just not as many as mj and kobe.

[Real14]

you act like him entering the dunk contest will cure cancer
Im just saying if legends like m.j, and kobe did it then why cant LeBron?:confusedshrug: even dr. j, vince and nique did it, and oh yea brent phuckin barry did it too:coleman:

[Milbuck]

That's one of the main reasons why I cant stand him. Millions of people including NBA legends would kill to have his athletic ability. His potential was always amazing but he just never had that mentality.
It doesn't sound like a big deal right now.."it's just a dunk contest". But it's gonna be one of those things people look back on 10, 15, 20 years from now and question. Just picturing NBA Open Court in 2030 with guys from this era talking about what we missed out on. So many great athletic wings in history have done it. MJ, Nique, Vince, T-Mac, Dr. J, Kobe, etc..and the most unreal athlete of them all..didn't do it.

[JT123]

http://damelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Wade-Bosh.jpg
Exactly my point. After the 2014 Finals the media was very critical of Wade and Bosh, saying they were no longer superstars. So what does Bron do? Leave his stacked Heat team and goes back to the league's laughing stock franchise, allowing Wade and Bosh to shine on their own and prove just how good they still are. :rockon:

[Replay32]

Sorry, but you're wrong. When Kobe retires no when will ever remember him as being a great dunker. He will be remembered for being able to make difficult shots, but not great dunks.
Lebron has fans so impressed with his in game dunks they are begging him to join the slam dunk contest, even after being in the league for over a decade! :bowdown: But Bron knows that it is best to always leave them wanting more. :pimp:

I don't think you've seen enough of kobe. Kobe is a great in game dunker. One of the all-time great in game dunkers IMO. Dude has some really impressive and creative dunks in games.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

All he does are tomahawks

[Cocaine80s]

Im just saying if legends like m.j, and kobe did it then why cant LeBron?:confusedshrug: even dr. j, vince and nique did it, and oh yea brent phuckin barry did it too:coleman:
What about Durant, Melo, Westbrook, Wade, Rose etc?

Pretty sure they won't enter the dunk contest in their careers

[Real14]

It doesn't sound like a big deal right now.."it's just a dunk contest". But it's gonna be one of those things people look back on 10, 15, 20 years from now and question. Just picturing NBA Open Court in 2030 with guys from this era talking about what we missed out on. So many great athletic wings in history have done it. MJ, Nique, Vince, T-Mac, Dr. J, Kobe, etc..and the most unreal athlete of them all..didn't do it.
Yup, that discussion will definitely come up, and his 0 points 4th quarter in 2011 finals too. I see a cycle with this niguh, it defines a star with amazing potential who don't put his all into it. That's who he is, but its also a major problem. I hope his kids don't grow up to be like that:facepalm . That's why we always have to try our best and not be afraid of certain challenges.

[Warfan]

It doesn't sound like a big deal right now.."it's just a dunk contest". But it's gonna be one of those things people look back on 10, 15, 20 years from now and question. Just picturing NBA Open Court in 2030 with guys from this era talking about what we missed out on. So many great athletic wings in history have done it. MJ, Nique, Vince, T-Mac, Dr. J, Kobe, etc..and the most unreal athlete of them all..didn't do it.

Yep. Thing is, I wouldnt have minded that much about him not doing it (although I still wouldve liked to see it) but the fact that he has said he'll do it then backs out is really annoying. I mean even this year he was doing all those training practice dunks in Phoenix, and then he said he'd win it if he entered the contest :facepalm

[Real14]

Exactly my point. After the 2014 Finals the media was very critical of Wade and Bosh, saying they were no longer superstars. So what does Bron do? Leave his stacked Heat team and goes back to the league's laughing stock franchise, allowing Wade and Bosh to shine on their own and prove just how good they still are. :rockon:

So I guess these scenarios didn't happen:coleman: ...

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/539139d569bedd687c996147/lebron-limp.gif
http://thacover2.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/lebron-cramps.jpg
http://ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/BqN-xvgCIAA4xaS.png_large.png

[Real14]

Yep. Thing is, I wouldnt have minded that much about him not doing it (although I still wouldve liked to see it) but the fact that he has said he'll do it then backs out is really annoying. I mean even this year he was doing all those training practice dunks in Phoenix, and then he said he'd win it if he entered the contest :facepalm
He did that because all of the attention was on dfright and nate robinson and he didn't like that shit.

[Fudge]

There's absolutely nothing likeable about LeBeta.

[Real14]

What about Durant, Melo, Westbrook, Wade, Rose etc?

Pretty sure they won't enter the dunk contest in their careers
Thanks to Lebron aka their buddy and Rose is a mental midget bitch anyway (had amazing potential before injury but he's done, sorry bulls fans)

[Real14]

There's absolutely nothing likeable about LeBeta.
You know I can't stand that niguh too but you gotta admit it man. His dunks alone has always been amazing. If I dunk like him I seriously would be in tha NBA right now.

[Cocaine80s]

There's absolutely nothing likeable about LeBeta.
I thought you became a lebron fan this summer wtf dude

[red1]

I thought you became a lebron fan this summer wtf dude
All durant fans are lebron fans on some level. Just think of how hard they've been fighting to put kd on bron's level. It's a case of greatness by association.

[Fudge]

I thought you became a lebron fan this summer wtf dude
I am a fan, but I don't think he's likeable. If that makes sense.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I am a fan, but I don't think he's likeable. If that makes sense.
I'm a fan of Kevin Dubeta too, but I don't think he's likeable

[funnystuff]

I am a fan, but I don't think he's likeable. If that makes sense.
Is Kobe like-able to you?

[Fudge]

Is Kobe like-able to you?
Not really. Not as unlikeable as Bron, but I'm a fan.

[SpecialQue]

You know I can't stand that niguh too but you gotta admit it man. His dunks alone has always been amazing. If I dunk like him I seriously would be in tha NBA right now.

His dunks are powerful, but amazing? Please. There's a reason why this clown doesn't enter the dunk contest. He's NOT a creative dunker. That's just not his thing. He's probably a boring fvck as well. One thrusting motion, no variety. I bet Ray gets bored as hell after awhile.

[JT123]

His dunks are powerful, but amazing? Please. There's a reason why this clown doesn't enter the dunk contest. He's NOT a creative dunker. That's just not his thing. He's probably a boring fvck as well. One thrusting motion, no variety. I bet Ray gets bored as hell after awhile.
:biggums: You can tell from the way Lebron dances on the sidelines that he takes care of business in the bedroom.

[sportjames23]

http://i.imgur.com/9iL0KyL.png

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lepedophile

[JT123]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Lepedophile
She's molesting him doe. :confusedshrug:

[red1]

:biggums: You can tell from the way Lebron dances on the sidelines that he takes care of business in the bedroom.
:kobe:

[SpecialQue]

She's molesting him doe. :confusedshrug:

Meanwhile "good man" Bran is smiling wider than a motherfvcker...

[Prometheus]

His dunks are a great display of raw athleticism, but he doesn't wow me with courage on his dunks the way Jordan used to. I've pointed this out on ISH multiple times before, but MJ didn't care who you were - if you were in his way, you were getting put on a highlight reel. He played in an era that was stacked with defensive bigs and he threw it down repeatedly on nearly all of them (and in spectacular fashion). LeBron's best dunks are on Damon Jones and Jason Terry.

That to me, more than the dunk contest bs, is what points to LeBron having a lack of courage. Great dunkers should have the drive to meet their opponent at the top of the mountain and conquer the challenge. LeBron doesn't do that though, he feasts on easy opportunities and looks to capitalize on those as much as possible - probably because, on some level, he is aware of his aforementioned lack of courage.

As far as the dunk contest though, I've never had a problem with it. The dunk contest has been played out for many years. It used to be interesting, but I think after the VC era, there was nothing left to prove. Vince perfected it and brought it to a level that no one else was gonna reach, and now we have stupid shit like Dwight's Superman cape and Blake jumping over a Kia. It's not about dunking anymore, it's about who can come up with a clever gimmick. With the dunk contest being played out, should LeBron join to try and breathe life back into it? I say no. There's a shitty bar around the corner from my house. Mostly miserable older people hang out there. Maybe I could get a group of friends to start going there with me and put some more energy into it. We could make it cool again, play good music, get the place good and loud/rowdy, have some fun times there... or we could just ignore it and go somewhere else. That shitty bar is like the modern dunk contest.

[pauk]

"Boring"? "One dunk only"? "Courage on his dunks as Jordan"? Haha... Come on man..... he jumps from so far distance and high up sometimes looking down into the rim (sometimes even flying literally clearing players, see Lucas), cocks the ball way back and then smashes it down with the fury of an angry xenomorph and just before that he used his great ballhandling to slither away from defenders for the finish...... how the hell does that get old? Can it get old? Hell no.... shit like that only you dream of doing ingame....

Lebron instills massive fear and loathing on defenders as a ingame dunker, have you ever seen any ingame dunker in NBA history have interior defenders just move out the way so much? Anytime Lebron dials in his running takeoff of that "bionic left leg" (as Vince Carter calls him/it) as a defender (no matter who you are) you either move out of the way, try to take a charge or foul him/flagrant foul him, but you dont contest unless you want to be in a poster.... this is because nobody has yet been able to block Lebron when he fully takes off up there, its impossible unless you time your hand in there when he is coming down from the sky possibly goaltending....

Unlike Jordan or Kobe.... Lebron not only gets up higher than them, but if contested he has also the much bigger strength to either bump into your body (pushing YOU back) and stuff it in anyways or very least lay it in, AND1.... if not then he has the power to stuff your freakin arm inside the rim with the ball..... you just move out of the way, take the charge or foul/flagrant foul him..... the only time you can block Lebron is when he is not running in for a full take off....

[dec1981]

His dunks are a great display of raw athleticism, but he doesn't wow me with courage on his dunks the way Jordan used to. I've pointed this out on ISH multiple times before, but MJ didn't care who you were - if you were in his way, you were getting put on a highlight reel. He played in an era that was stacked with defensive bigs and he threw it down repeatedly on nearly all of them (and in spectacular fashion). LeBron's best dunks are on Damon Jones and Jason Terry.

That to me, more than the dunk contest bs, is what points to LeBron having a lack of courage. Great dunkers should have the drive to meet their opponent at the top of the mountain and conquer the challenge. LeBron doesn't do that though, he feasts on easy opportunities and looks to capitalize on those as much as possible - probably because, on some level, he is aware of his aforementioned lack of courage.

As far as the dunk contest though, I've never had a problem with it. The dunk contest has been played out for many years. It used to be interesting, but I think after the VC era, there was nothing left to prove. Vince perfected it and brought it to a level that no one else was gonna reach, and now we have stupid shit like Dwight's Superman cape and Blake jumping over a Kia. It's not about dunking anymore, it's about who can come up with a clever gimmick. With the dunk contest being played out, should LeBron join to try and breathe life back into it? I say no. There's a shitty bar around the corner from my house. Mostly miserable older people hang out there. Maybe I could get a group of friends to start going there with me and put some more energy into it. We could make it cool again, play good music, get the place good and loud/rowdy, have some fun times there... or we could just ignore it and go somewhere else. That shitty bar is like the modern dunk contest.

Of the top of my head Lebron has dunked on:
Zo
Young J. O'Neal
Prime Duncan

And just last season Dwight Howard and Ibaka, who is arguably the best shot blocker in the nba...and Lebron did it with a broken nose.

But, I agree with you that he needs to challenged more bigs. I think Lebron thinks too much on the court sometimes. He's thinking about making the best possible play instead of just taking the chance of just throwing down on someone.

[LBJ 23]

Interesting what I all learned from this thread. Lebron being a pedophile for taking a picture with Bosh's daughter, Lebron having lack of courage, being a bad fck,...

Please ISH continue with such an intelligent debate :applause:

[SpecialQue]

Interesting what I all learned from this thread. Lebron being a pedophile for taking a picture with Bosh's daughter, Lebron having lack of courage, being a bad fck,...

Please ISH continue with such an intelligent debate :applause:

:roll:

[Fudge]

"Boring"? "One dunk only"? "Courage on his dunks as Jordan"? Haha... Come on man..... he jumps from so far distance and high up sometimes looking down into the rim (sometimes even flying literally clearing players, see Lucas), cocks the ball way back and then smashes it down with the fury of an angry xenomorph and just before that he used his great ballhandling to slither away from defenders for the finish...... how the hell does that get old? Can it get old? Hell no.... shit like that only you dream of doing ingame....

Lebron instills massive fear and loathing on defenders as a ingame dunker, have you ever seen any ingame dunker in NBA history have interior defenders just move out the way so much? Anytime Lebron dials in his running takeoff of that "bionic left leg" (as Vince Carter calls him/it) as a defender (no matter who you are) you either move out of the way, try to take a charge or foul him/flagrant foul him, but you dont contest unless you want to be in a poster.... this is because nobody has yet been able to block Lebron when he fully takes off up there, its impossible unless you time your hand in there when he is coming down from the sky possibly goaltending....

Unlike Jordan or Kobe.... Lebron not only gets up higher than them, but if contested he has also the much bigger strength to either bump into your body (pushing YOU back) and stuff it in anyways or very least lay it in, AND1.... if not then he has the power to stuff your freakin arm inside the rim with the ball..... you just move out of the way, take the charge or foul/flagrant foul him..... the only time you can block Lebron is when he is not running in for a full take off....
You only proved that LeBron dunks are powerful. That's it. I don't get the quotations in the beginning of the post. Yes, he's still boring, and yes, he pretty much does the same dunk over and over.

[LBJ 23]

You only proved that LeBron dunks are powerful. That's it. I don't get the quotations in the beginning of the post. Yes, he's still boring, and yes, he pretty much does the same dunk over and over.


Tell me one dunk Lebron hasn't done in a game which most of the other all time great dunkers have done? I'm not talking about style, or aesthetics of the dunker, I want to know what dunk we haven't seen in a game from him yet since he always does the same dunk?

[Fudge]

Tell me one dunk Lebron hasn't done in a game which most of the other all time great dunkers have done? I'm not talking about style, or aesthetics of the dunker, I want to know what dunk we haven't seen in a game from him yet since he always does the same dunk?
He's done almost every dunk once, as did most of the other good-great Dunkers in the league. Doesn't say anything. Shaq's done a ****ing 360 in the game. :confusedshrug:

[LBJ 23]

He's done almost every dunk once, as did most of the other good-great Dunkers in the league. Doesn't say anything. Shaq's done a ****ing 360 in the game. :confusedshrug:


I haven't seen most of the other good-great dunkers in the league do between the legs dunk.

I haven't seen them do this kind of alleyoop either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzo4_KGL8Q

Or leftie windmill (alleyoop or after the miss/off the backboard):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmKZRhlhwM


Also your example with Shaq and 360 dunk is pretty weak, once you can get comfortably above the rim with your hands, 360 dunk is one of the easier dunks to do even for players with huge bodies...

[Fudge]

I haven't seen most of the other good-great dunkers in the league do between the legs dunk.

I haven't seen them do this kind of alleyoop either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzo4_KGL8Q

Or leftie windmill (alleyoop or after the miss/off the backboard):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmKZRhlhwM


Also your example with Shaq and 360 dunk is pretty weak, once you can get comfortably above the rim with your hands, 360 dunk is one of the easier dunks to do...
Yeah, that's why we see a 360 more commonly during games.

When was the last times someone done it? PG's 360 windmill? 360's are hard, especially during games.

A between the legs dunk? When? Didn't that happen in high school? :oldlol:

And those links you posted are like.. Borderline good, tbh. None of those actually wow'd me. Sure, MAYBE nobody's done them (but maybe somebody has, too lazy to look them up), but they don't look like anything Gerald Green, JRich, Carter, TMac, Kobe, Mason, Griffin, etc can't do.

[LBJ 23]

Interesting how you say this:


He's done almost every dunk once, as did most of the other good-great Dunkers in the league

and then you post this and compare Lebron to the best/elite dunkers of our generation:


but they don't look like anything Gerald Green, JRich, Carter, TMac, Kobe, Mason, Griffin, etc can't do.


And yea, 360 dunk is one of the easier dunks to perform once you can get your hands above the rim quite easily. It's not the safest dunks that's why you rarely see them in game but that doesn't mean it's equally as hard as windmill or between the legs or something similar.

Look here Hansbrough doing a 360, but I don't imagine him doing a proper windmill or between the legs or anything like that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0jQ8g0W7e0

[Fudge]

Interesting how you say this:



and then you post this and compare Lebron to the best/elite dunkers of our generation:
Are those guys not good-great dunkers? You've been constantly trying to prove how Bron IS a great dunker in here, yet you try and backpedal when I compare him to other great dunkers. What's the problem?

[DJ Leon Smith]

"Boring"? "One dunk only"? "Courage on his dunks as Jordan"? Haha... Come on man..... he jumps from so far distance and high up sometimes looking down into the rim (sometimes even flying literally clearing players, see Lucas), cocks the ball way back and then smashes it down with the fury of an angry xenomorph and just before that he used his great ballhandling to slither away from defenders for the finish...... how the hell does that get old? Can it get old? Hell no.... shit like that only you dream of doing ingame....

Lebron instills massive fear and loathing on defenders as a ingame dunker, have you ever seen any ingame dunker in NBA history have interior defenders just move out the way so much? Anytime Lebron dials in his running takeoff of that "bionic left leg" (as Vince Carter calls him/it) as a defender (no matter who you are) you either move out of the way, try to take a charge or foul him/flagrant foul him, but you dont contest unless you want to be in a poster.... this is because nobody has yet been able to block Lebron when he fully takes off up there, its impossible unless you time your hand in there when he is coming down from the sky possibly goaltending....

Unlike Jordan or Kobe.... Lebron not only gets up higher than them, but if contested he has also the much bigger strength to either bump into your body (pushing YOU back) and stuff it in anyways or very least lay it in, AND1.... if not then he has the power to stuff your freakin arm inside the rim with the ball..... you just move out of the way, take the charge or foul/flagrant foul him..... the only time you can block Lebron is when he is not running in for a full take off....

This isn't even close to 1500 words. Step your game up son.

*MELTDOWN ALERT MELTDOWN ALERT MELTDOWN ALERT MELTDOWN ALERT*

[Hey Yo]

What next

"HE'S NEVER STUCK HIS TONGUE OUT DURING A DUNK LIKE MJ AND KOBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LBJ 23]

Are those guys not good-great dunkers? You've been constantly trying to prove how Bron IS a great dunker in here, yet you try and backpedal when I compare him to other great dunkers. What's the problem?


Nope these are not good-great dunkers. Those are elite of the elite dunkers for the last 20 years. I'm not backpedalling I was very accurate with my posting that's why I posted this:



I haven't seen most of the other good-great dunkers in the league do between the legs dunk.


Good-great dunkers for me are players like Westbrook, Wade, Rose, Josh Smith, Gerald Wallace,... for example players like George, Deandre, Terrence Ross are great dunkers for me but not elite of the elite dunkers or top of the cream like players you mentioned and compared Lebron to them.

[Fudge]

Nope these are not good-great dunkers. Those are elite of the elite dunkers for the last 20 years. I'm not backpedalling I was very accurate with my posting that's why I posted this:





Good-great dunkers for me are players like Westbrook, Wade, Rose, Josh Smith, Gerald Wallace,... for example players like George, Deandre, Terrence Ross are great dunkers for me but not elite of the elite dunkers or top of the cream like players you mentioned and compared Lebron to them.
Fair enough. I'll find my share of videos of these said players then.

Has LeBron done anything remotely similar this (http://youtu.be/HDL-tuJMQvw?t=2m49s) even? Off both legs? To me, that's harder than a running, gather windmill that he and J Smoove typically do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aMs6khRYPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2A-PosqC6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvlaqTMWgn4

JR's 360 alley oop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRFiAWSC_TA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky0SQCEhUCo

Here's a mix of Wade's reverse dunks alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82ibn7z2Xg

All just as good, if not better than the one's you posted.

[LBJ 23]

Fair enough. I'll find my share of videos of these said players then.

Has LeBron done anything remotely similar this (http://youtu.be/HDL-tuJMQvw?t=2m49s) even? Off both legs? To me, that's harder than a running, gather windmill that he and J Smoove typically do.
.


Do you mean just similar to the Westbrook's windmill or also other dunks afterwards? If just windmill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD6k3ZXUnQo


Why would windmill off both legs be harder? For a 2 foot-leapers(Jordan, Carter, Griffin, Westbrook,...) it's easier to do that than a running one legged windmill. For one legged leapers(Lebron, James White, Josh Smith,..) it's vice versa since they get up higher jumping off 1 leg.

Having said that it's waste of our time to continue this debate since it leads nowhere. We will just end up posting a ton od youtube vids and wasting too much usefull time doing that. I'm out.

BTW, J.R. Smith for me is a great dunker! Forgot about him...

[SamuraiSWISH]

I like everything apart from his attention whoring, cowardly nature, and his bouts with passiveness. He doesn't have the best feel for the game of when to take over that I've ever seen. Everything else? And I have no issues.

[Prometheus]

Of the top of my head Lebron has dunked on:
Zo
Young J. O'Neal
Prime Duncan

And just last season Dwight Howard and Ibaka, who is arguably the best shot blocker in the nba...and Lebron did it with a broken nose.

But, I agree with you that he needs to challenged more bigs. I think Lebron thinks too much on the court sometimes. He's thinking about making the best possible play instead of just taking the chance of just throwing down on someone.

Dwight wasn't going up for the block... neither was Duncan, he stood with his arms straight up trying to take a charge... honestly, the ones on Ibaka and Alonzo are the only LEGIT posters I've seen him put on big men. By legit posters, I mean the shot blocker actually leaves the floor attempting to go for the block, and LeBron stuffs it on him anyway. Ibaka's was even an asterisk because he didn't actually DUNK the ball, he just kinda threw it in from above.

I really, really hope he dunks on Hibbert this year. Like a dramatic dunk. Something that haunts Hibbert until his dying breath. Stupid verticality abusing garbage Hibbert...

[dec1981]

Dwight wasn't going up for the block... neither was Duncan, he stood with his arms straight up trying to take a charge... honestly, the ones on Ibaka and Alonzo are the only LEGIT posters I've seen him put on big men. By legit posters, I mean the shot blocker actually leaves the floor attempting to go for the block, and LeBron stuffs it on him anyway. Ibaka's was even an asterisk because he didn't actually DUNK the ball, he just kinda threw it in from above.

I really, really hope he dunks on Hibbert this year. Like a dramatic dunk. Something that haunts Hibbert until his dying breath. Stupid verticality abusing garbage Hibbert...

You're right about Dwight and Duncan not going up for the block, but do you think this common with Lebron? It's like players are scared to even attempt to block his dunks. Add Garnett from the playoffs to that list of players who just stand there. Come to think of it there is a handful of "opportunities" that players passed up to try to block Lebron's dunks. I remember young PHX Amare had a couple of chances to contend but backed out.

Side note: I think this is the mentality of the players today to "not" attempt a block.

Also, I'm dreaming of a Hippert poster too!!!

[dec1981]

Lebron also had that nasty poster of Rasheed Wallace in the playoffs...loved that one!

[Prometheus]

You're right about Dwight and Duncan not going up for the block, but do you think this common with Lebron? It's like players are scared to even attempt to block his dunks. Add Garnett from the playoffs to that list of players who just stand there. Come to think of it there is a handful of "opportunities" that players passed up to try to block Lebron's dunks. I remember young PHX Amare had a couple of chances to contend but backed out.

Side note: I think this is the mentality of the players today to "not" attempt a block.

Also, I'm dreaming of a Hippert poster too!!!

You know, that's actually pretty good point. I think there's a little of both going on... when a good shot blocker is in position, LeBron probably doesn't go for it - but when he's attacking with a head of steam, there are probably a lot of guys who don't even bother trying. Still, it's undeniable that Jordan was leagues beyond at posterizing defenders. He just seemed to do it so often.

[Paul George 24]

is his dunks.

http://fanatchicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Lebron-dunk.jpg

CAREER POSTER DUNKS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4tc3dHVC98

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

ugly dunk :facepalm

[dec1981]

You know, that's actually pretty good point. I think there's a little of both going on... when a good shot blocker is in position, LeBron probably doesn't go for it - but when he's attacking with a head of steam, there are probably a lot of guys who don't even bother trying. Still, it's undeniable that Jordan was leagues beyond at posterizing defenders. He just seemed to do it so often.

I agree that Jordan has A TON more posters than Lebron, but here is something to think about. In Jordan's time, 80's and early 90's, the shot blockers didn't really care if they got dunked on. They contested EVERYTHING. Flashforward to today's culture, and most shot blockers don't want to get dunked on. Too much ego, they don't want to end up on SC top ten. Getting killed on social media. I bet if Lebron played in Jordan's time he would have just as many posters. And in Jordan played in today's game he would have as many. No fault to Jordan or Lebron, just the culture has changed.

[Mr Exlax]

I agree that Jordan has A TON more posters than Lebron, but here is something to think about. In Jordan's time, 80's and early 90's, the shot blockers didn't really care if they got dunked on. They contested EVERYTHING. Flashforward to today's culture, and most shot blockers don't want to get dunked on. Too much ego, they don't want to end up on SC top ten. Getting killed on social media. I bet if Lebron played in Jordan's time he would have just as many posters. And in Jordan played in today's game he would have as many. No fault to Jordan or Lebron, just the culture has changed.

This. The bigs now though are semi afraid to contest LeBron. That's a big ass body.

[Warfan]

Didn't bron dunk on gortat this year? Or am I thinking of someone else?



edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv37Ko0OsYw

well he did kinda, but gortat didn't even try and contest it :oldlol:

[hitmanyr2k]

I agree that Jordan has A TON more posters than Lebron, but here is something to think about. In Jordan's time, 80's and early 90's, the shot blockers didn't really care if they got dunked on. They contested EVERYTHING. Flashforward to today's culture, and most shot blockers don't want to get dunked on. Too much ego, they don't want to end up on SC top ten. Getting killed on social media. I bet if Lebron played in Jordan's time he would have just as many posters. And in Jordan played in today's game he would have as many. No fault to Jordan or Lebron, just the culture has changed.

Except this guy who Lebron has had multiple chances to dunk on in the regular season and playoffs the last 2 years but always seems to get intimidated at the last second. It's like this every single time he sees Hibbert in the paint. Any other uber-athletic swingman has an opening like that and Hibbert is getting embarrassed.

http://i.imgur.com/96E7Fdi.gif

http://i.imgur.com/ZGCAqJ8.gif

[JohnFreeman]

Except this guy who Lebron has had multiple chances to dunk on in the regular season and playoffs the last 2 years but always seems to get intimidated at the last second. It's like this every single time he sees Hibbert in the paint. Any other uber-athletic swingman has an opening like that and Hibbert is getting embarrassed.

http://i.imgur.com/96E7Fdi.gif

http://i.imgur.com/ZGCAqJ8.gif
/ he is trying to get the foul

[Prometheus]

Except this guy who Lebron has had multiple chances to dunk on in the regular season and playoffs the last 2 years but always seems to get intimidated at the last second. It's like this every single time he sees Hibbert in the paint. Any other uber-athletic swingman has an opening like that and Hibbert is getting embarrassed.

http://i.imgur.com/96E7Fdi.gif

http://i.imgur.com/ZGCAqJ8.gif

SO true. I will never be a LeBron fan until he dunks on Hibbert.