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L.Kizzle
09-11-2014, 01:38 AM
In reality, it was only supposed to be a fad. Be here a couple of years, and poof ... be gone. It was the Disco of the 80s. It had a rough couple of years as Sugar Hill Hang, Kurtis Blow, Afrika Bambaataa and Grandmaster Flash were not the stars it was looking for to make it last. Even with Run-DMC, Beastie Boys and LL Cool J I don't think them alone would have done it.


Happy rap and friendly guys and gals like DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, Kid N Play, Salt N Peppa and JJ Fad was not gonna save this genre. Even new up and coming lyricist like Big Daddy Kane and Rakim were not the answer. What really gave it life was NWA. Without NWA and to some extent 2 Live Crew and Public Enemy, rap music would have been a question on Jeopardy by the year 2001. The controversy a group raping about violence, another rapping about sex and the other rapping about the black man vs. white man gave it something to hold on too.


I'll take "Gone But Not Forgotten Music Genres" for $300 Alex.

Thank you Eazy-E

DeuceWallaces
09-11-2014, 01:48 AM
Congratulations.

Cocaine80s
09-11-2014, 01:57 AM
excuse me while i wipe this dust from my ears

gigantes
09-11-2014, 02:08 AM
Rap music was supposed to fade away by 86/87
whoa... really??

but what if rap 'music' is pretty much the worst, most despised form of 'music' ever heard on earth... yet dollars be dollars, right?

ducktape
09-11-2014, 02:23 AM
when was rock music supposed to fade away by? 60/61?

L.Kizzle
09-11-2014, 02:34 AM
when was rock music supposed to fade away by? 60/61?
There was no Rock music in 60/61.

ducktape
09-11-2014, 02:38 AM
There was no Rock music in 60/61.
when did it start then?

L.Kizzle
09-11-2014, 02:44 AM
when did it start then?
Probably around 64 maybe 63. By 66 it was definitely out there.

ducktape
09-11-2014, 03:02 AM
Probably around 64 maybe 63. By 66 it was definitely out there.
i guess you never heard of ike turner

KNOW1EDGE
09-11-2014, 03:07 AM
It did fade away. Want proof? Check out ISH's "Good Hip-Hop/Rap Thread"

The type of rap that existed then hardly exists now. And kids don't like it. Swag swerve yolo is what kids call rap

Brokenbeat
09-11-2014, 03:12 AM
i guess you never heard of ike turner


I sold him an MPC2000... and lived to post about it. :pimp:

ducktape
09-11-2014, 03:18 AM
l.kizzle should also know about goree carter since he's from houston

rock music started in houston

ducktape
09-11-2014, 03:29 AM
It did fade away. Want proof? Check out ISH's "Good Hip-Hop/Rap Thread"

The type of rap that existed then hardly exists now. And kids don't like it. Swag swerve yolo is what kids call rap
and rock died when kurt cobain died

oarabbus
09-11-2014, 03:41 AM
Probably around 64 maybe 63. By 66 it was definitely out there.


Rock around the clock - 1954

ducktape
09-11-2014, 03:45 AM
Rock around the clock - 1954
rock awhile - 1949
rocket 88 - 1951

people debate between the two

East_Stone_Ya
09-11-2014, 03:50 AM
and rock died when kurt cobain died

or maybe grunge?

ducktape
09-11-2014, 03:52 AM
or maybe grunge?
the entire genre of rock music

Dresta
09-11-2014, 04:09 AM
hip-hop's long dead bro. Lifespan of approx 20-25 years - not exactly a long time period if you aren't 10.

ducktape
09-11-2014, 04:22 AM
Probably around 64 maybe 63. By 66 it was definitely out there.
by the way the beatles were the nwa of rock music when they released "love me do" so rock was definitely out there in 1962

L.Kizzle
09-11-2014, 05:02 AM
I'm counting Rock & Roll and Rock as two separate entities.

R&R = Elvis Little Richard Chuck Berry ect.
Rock = Led Z Doors Who ect.

ducktape
09-11-2014, 05:35 AM
everything you've said in this thread is true

well done

L.Kizzle
09-15-2014, 04:45 PM
hip-hop's long dead bro. Lifespan of approx 20-25 years - not exactly a long time period if you aren't 10.
Have we seen the end of it?

DeuceWallaces
09-15-2014, 05:09 PM
rock awhile - 1949
rocket 88 - 1951

people debate between the two

Bill Haley is the general talking point from Cleveland in ~54 but there are a handful of candidates going back to Sister Rosetta Thorpe.

CelticBaller
09-15-2014, 07:33 PM
whoa... really??

but what if rap 'music' is pretty much the worst, most despised form of 'music' ever heard on earth... yet dollars be dollars, right?
this fgt

JohnnySic
09-16-2014, 08:56 AM
True. No coincidence that the "gangsta rap" era (roughly '88-'95) was the peak of the genre.

Gangster rap > party anthem rap crap