Never trust a person that doesn't drink....

[9erempiree]

Don't know if you guys have heard this saying......

No offense to those that like to be sober but in the business and corporate world, you are the least to get promoted or trusted if you don't drink alcohol. I've seen it too many times in company parties to know that you will be labelled that dude.

I understand you want to be sober but if you can't even have one drink with a boss or co-worker then there is no telling what your limits may be in the company.

If you don't want to drink then it is best to say you are a recovering alcoholic.

:cheers:

[9erempiree]

[QUOTE]

[Cocaine80s]

***** you work at mcdonalds, **** do you know about corporate promotions

[9erempiree]

***** you work at mcdonalds, **** do you know about corporate promotions

You cannot be trusted because you are black.:oldlol:

[Cocaine80s]

You cannot be trusted because you must be black.:oldlol:
:coleman:

[sweggeh]

What a load of bs

[Budadiiii]

It's the exact opposite actually.

[#number6ix#]

You're one dumb son of a b.itch

[Encre92]

:facepalm

[Bandito]

-James Crumley
I don't like to get drunk because I don't like the feeling the next morning.:coleman:

[DukeDelonte13]

it's somewhat true IMO. Guys bond over getting drunk all the time and have throughout history.

[mlh1981]

Much of adult social interaction revolves around alcohol, whether that amount be an excess of, or "just grabbing a drink." To be completely sober, I think one would have to be extra creative to find their social outlets. I mean, yeah, you can go to a bar and not drink, but it's annoying being sober around people who are buzzed/drunk.

[niko]

Nobody gives a shit if you drink or not as long as you're social.

[9erempiree]

Nobody gives a shit if you drink or not as long as you're social.

Calm down hippie. You wouldn't be saying this during your season.

[niko]

Calm down hippie. You wouldn't be saying this during your season.
I drink. I just don't expect everyone else to need to because I do. Have you watched the Giants lately? Exactly how does one do that without beer?

[Thorpesaurous]

-James Crumley


I enjoy James Crumley.

[DukeDelonte13]

I drink. I just don't expect everyone else to need to because I do. Have you watched the Giants lately? Exactly how does one do that without beer?


psshhhh trying being a f*ckin' Browns fan. I need a morphine drip during games.

[kurple]

i dont drink, cause i know the bud's wiser (pun intended)

[StephHamann]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUVwR0rw5fk

[~primetime~]

Getting drunk with coworkers in the corporate scene is actually a HORRIBLE idea.

That has led to many lost jobs...

[niko]

Getting drunk with coworkers in the corporate scene is actually a HORRIBLE idea.

That has led to many lost jobs...
Yet I've had a few jobs that almost require you to go do so.

[~primetime~]

Drunk people let opinions fly, and once you let those opinions out to other coworkers you can't take them back.

IMO its much better to be seen as the perfect little hard working angel than it is to be seen as the drinking buddy.

[Charlie Sheen]

Drunk people let opinions fly, and once you let those opinions out to other coworkers you can't take them back.

IMO its much better to be seen as the perfect little hard working angel than it is to be seen as the drinking buddy.

Don't know man. That hard working angel is gonna distance himself from any future promotions in a lot of situations if he can't relax. It's never a good look to drink and get demolished, but a stiff personality doesn't work too good either.

[~primetime~]

Don't know man. That hard working angel is gonna distance himself from any future promotions in a lot of situations if he can't relax. It's never a good look to drink and get demolished, but a stiff personality doesn't work too good either.
meh, maybe in a smaller office setting...

At large corporations your boss likely doesn't give a shit about bonding with you and getting buddy-buddy, he just wants you to do your job well.


I don't think I have seen a situation where the better worker lost out because he didn't get drunk with someone...

[Inactive]

[QUOTE]You can

[~primetime~]

The world isn't like Mad Men anymore...the majority of higher ups at large corporations are generally very sober people...

[AlphaWolf24]

yeah...never drink around coworkers/bosses...

when I was 19, I attended my first work "Christmas Party"....( now they are called Holiday Party)

I prolly had 1,2,3 too many.....

I ended up telling one of my managers that he was B###H....then was kissin up on this married chick...

Just the first of many Holiday party's that ended bad...





- Now I don't drink during work sponsored events.....I only drink when I'm out on Vacation or with friends.....maybe down a few on the weekends.

- But I agree.....never trust a friend or person who never drinks....It means they don't trust themselves and are weak minded.

Bro psychology 101....:confusedshrug:

[ArbitraryWater]

Much of adult social interaction revolves around alcohol, whether that amount be an excess of, or "just grabbing a drink." To be completely sober, I think one would have to be extra creative to find their social outlets. I mean, yeah, you can go to a bar and not drink, but it's annoying being sober around people who are buzzed/drunk.

Oh wow, haven't seen you on here in ages :applause:

[DeuceWallaces]

I don't trust most people who refuse to drink.

[sweggeh]

If someone doesnt trust you because you dont drink its because deep inside they feel envious and fear you.

[DeuceWallaces]

A person who refuses a single drink is a person who doesn't even trust themselves so I surely won't.

[sweggeh]

So a person looking to be healthier and improve their body, mind and will power is someone not to be trusted? Thats the kind of thing you hear deadbeat drug addict prostitute transexuals say... oh wait.

[~primetime~]

@deuce You agree with 9er? :facepalm

There are plenty of trust worthy sober people, lol obviously. Guess what, some people just don't like to drink! Has nothing to do with trusting themselves.

So if you met Neil deGrasse Tyson at some science convention and you found out he doesn't drink you would deem him as someone you can't trust?

[~primetime~]

I don't trust any human who refuses a heroin syringe.

If they don't trust themselves with that then obviously I can't trust them...:lol

[DeuceWallaces]

Heroine is an uncontrollable drug; obviously an asinine analogy.

[Cocaine80s]

if you cant trust someone who doesnt drink then you take alcohol too seriously.

you probably aint that fun to be around when drinking anyways...

[Cocaine80s]

btw guys im at 0 rep right now who wants to be the first to make me green? :cheers:

[~primetime~]

Heroine is an uncontrollable drug; obviously an asinine analogy.
? heroin/opiates CAN be controlled and done responsibly

but anyway...lettuce b reality...basing your trust in another human around their drinking habits is stupidity

[DeuceWallaces]

All kidding and film noir jokes aside, I am weary in my professional and personal life of people who absolutely refuse to have a beer or glass of wine. Typically some very poor judgement is in their past.

[DeuceWallaces]

Haha why would it even get to the point where they absolutely refuse

"Want a beer?"

"No thanks"

"Cmonnn"

"Nah I'm good"

"Have a fvking drink"

Have you ever been in a social situation?

"You want me to grab you something?

"No, I don't drink.

That happens quite a bit and that guy is typically either very religious or some bad history. I am weary of that.

[Rake2204]

Interesting topic, though I am struggling to distinguish between sarcasm and not.

I suppose we all come from different backgrounds & environments but it is interesting to hear the differences amongst them. In my own personal experiences, both private and professional, I would be quite surprised to hear of folks being weary, let alone distrusting, on the sole basis as to whether I drink alcohol.

Perhaps I have just been fortunate up to this point (or absolutely oblivious). I never imagined many folks going so far as to hypothesize or assume far-fetched certainties about my character (or lack thereof) as to why I opt not to drink.

[Cocaine80s]

Have you ever been in a social situation?

"You want me to grab you something?

"No, I don't drink.

That happens quite a bit and that guy is typically either very religious or some bad history. I am weary of that.
more like:

"You want me to grab you something?
"Nah, im good"
"Aight fam"

[Rizko]

There are plenty of trust worthy sober people, lol obviously. Guess what, some people just don't like to drink! Has nothing to do with trusting themselves.
Exactly. I do have my vices that I've been honest about on here so getting ****ed up is NOT the issue. I just hate the feeling of alcohol. Weeds madd overrated too. Not a big benzo guy either.

Op's are the only drugs I really enjoy the high from. Rollin is coo, Uppers are fun until you crash like a mutha****a. But opiates are the only one that truthfully feel good imo. Other things **** you up but ops truthfully make you feel good.

[SwayDizzle]

OK that's a bit awkward if they just say that haha

Most people who don't drink just say no thanks

I don't trust or like people who are prices about being sober

But it's more the price part than sober part
most people i know that don't drink have made it a point each and every time they refused the offer. my guess is because they don't like to be asked. makes them feel like social outcasts. crazy to think that consumption of a type of drink is enough to make people feel this way. that's marketing baby ;)

[ballup]

I don't trust my friend's brother. He refuses all alcohol drinks. I mean sure, in the presence of alcohol, he will have severe allergic reactions that will hospitalize him, but obviously OP has stated a truism.

[niko]

All kidding and film noir jokes aside, I am weary in my professional and personal life of people who absolutely refuse to have a beer or glass of wine. Typically some very poor judgement is in their past.

That's pretty stupid. I can think of in my circle at least 4/5 people who can't drink, not one because of bad decisions, but because of the fact they can't absorb the alcohol well, they get flushed, feel sick. One person has an ulcer. My wife is pretty much moving toward the can't drink pile as she gets older to an an ulceric condition. Terrible judgment on her part to have that genetic issue.

[LJJ]

Generally I don't really care. There is the implication there: this person might have a history with some kind of substance abuse. But I don't really care if they do.

However, in bars and clubs you are definitely supposed to be drinking. If you are at a club or a bar and you aren't there on a special occasion, and you aren't the designated driver? That always creeps me out.

[Jailblazers7]

Generally I don't really care. There is the implication there: this person might have a history with some kind of substance abuse. But I don't really care if they do.

However, in bars and clubs you are definitely supposed to be drinking. If you are at a club or a bar and you aren't there on a special occasion, and you aren't the designated driver? That always creeps me out.

Yeah, setting is important. A sober dude at the bar gives off the vibe of trying to take advantage of drunk girls. But opting for water at a social gathering is no biggie.

[~primetime~]

Generally I don't really care. There is the implication there: this person might have a history with some kind of substance abuse. But I don't really care if they do.

However, in bars and clubs you are definitely supposed to be drinking. If you are at a club or a bar and you aren't there on a special occasion, and you aren't the designated driver? That always creeps me out.
lol yep if you're male that is strange...probably means he is planning to kidnap, date-rape

I've come across lots of women at clubs that don't drink though, they just like to dance.

[DeuceWallaces]

That's pretty stupid. I can think of in my circle at least 4/5 people who can't drink, not one because of bad decisions, but because of the fact they can't absorb the alcohol well, they get flushed, feel sick. One person has an ulcer. My wife is pretty much moving toward the can't drink pile as she gets older to an an ulceric condition. Terrible judgment on her part to have that genetic issue.

That is very rare, and unlikely true that you would have 5 people in your circle of friends with alcohol allergies.

You guys can nit pick exceedingly rare allergies or genetic conditions all you want, but they're incredibly rare and don't really apply to the conversation at hand or my point.

[LJJ]

That is very rare, and unlikely true that you would have 5 people in your circle of friends with alcohol allergies.

You guys can nit pick exceedingly rare allergies or genetic conditions all you want, but they're incredibly rare and don't really apply to the conversation at hand or my point.

He's talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction

Very much not rare among people from a certain part of the world.

[~primetime~]

That is very rare, and unlikely true that you would have 5 people in your circle of friends with alcohol allergies.

You guys can nit pick exceedingly rare allergies or genetic conditions all you want, but they're incredibly rare and don't really apply to the conversation at hand or my point.
I would say the majority of programmers in the game industry don't drink, because they just don't like to. No allergy, no past,...just don't like alcohol. crazy huh?

The artists are another story lol

[Budadiiii]

That is very rare, and unlikely true that you would have 5 people in your circle of friends with alcohol allergies.

You guys can nit pick exceedingly rare allergies or genetic conditions all you want, but they're incredibly rare and don't really apply to the conversation at hand or my point.
He is around a lot of Asians. Many don't metabolize alcohol correctly, especially those damn Koreans.

[oarabbus]

meh, maybe in a smaller office setting...

At large corporations your boss likely doesn't give a shit about bonding with you and getting buddy-buddy, he just wants you to do your job well.


I don't think I have seen a situation where the better worker lost out because he didn't get drunk with someone...

Good, accurate post probably the best on in this topic :applause:



A person who refuses a single drink is a person who doesn't even trust themselves so I surely won't.
:biggums:

Heroine is an uncontrollable drug; obviously an asinine analogy.

:biggums: You're an ignorant fool if you believe that's an asinine analogy.

Drugs are inanimate objects, there is no such thing as an "uncontrollable drug". There are alcoholics to whom alcohol is as uncontrollable is as heroin to a heroin addict.

I've known people who have tried heroin once or twice, and never touched it after. Not to mention you completely sidestepped primetime's point - it doesn't matter specifically it's heroin.

"A person who refuses oxycontin/a blunt/xanax/molly/cocaine/skydiving/cigarettes is someone who doesn't trust themselves so I surely wont".

:facepalm talk about a poor judge of character.

[PHX_Phan]

Lol @ Deuces. It is possible that some people just don't care for alcohol. What a stupid thing to judge someone over.

[fsvr54]

What if you just don't like the taste?

[NumberSix]

That is very rare, and unlikely true that you would have 5 people in your circle of friends with alcohol allergies.

You guys can nit pick exceedingly rare allergies or genetic conditions all you want, but they're incredibly rare and don't really apply to the conversation at hand or my point.
You never heard of "Asian glow"? It's not rare.

[GimmeThat]

if you can't trust your partner because they don't drink with you. damn fool.


if you are so eager to be trusted or to gain trust from your co-workers,boss. damn fool.



I'll pay the person who do the dirty work their hard earned money.

keep your trust, and I'll take the responsibilities and results.
because, what is results and responsibilities you can't trust?

[GimmeThat]

What if they don't drink because they don't like the taste? You are not going to trust them ever? :confusedshrug:


I don't know if trusting someone with expensive taste is any better if that is the reason/motive behind why they drink.


not that I figured out why expensive liquor doesn't give you a hangover yet. just don't tell your friends anything you drink that doesn't give you a hangover is expensive liquor.

[kenuffff]

so drinks out is a big part of business.. that's how you hash out shit and everyone let's their guard down, but there is a fine line of getting completely hammered and making an ass out of yourself or being "one of the guys" having a few drinks, that being said you don't have to drink at all no one cares, but you're probably not going to get some of the information you need out of people without participating in the 'party' aspect. i've met quite a few people that do not drink for religious reasons etc, or maybe they had a previous problem.. i don't think they were deemed untrustworthy.

[IamRAMBO24]

You never heard of "Asian glow"? It's not rare.

You can pop some pepcid AC 45 minutes before you drink and it'll cure the asian glow.

[GimmeThat]

so drinks out is a big part of business.. that's how you hash out shit and everyone let's their guard down, but there is a fine line of getting completely hammered and making an ass out of yourself or being "one of the guys" having a few drinks, that being said you don't have to drink at all no one cares, but you're probably not going to get some of the information you need out of people without participating in the 'party' aspect. i've met quite a few people that do not drink for religious reasons etc, or maybe they had a previous problem.. i don't think they were deemed untrustworthy.


Steve Jobs must have told Ivey "lets go get a drink" instead of "I want you to be brutally honest with me at all time"

[DeuceWallaces]

You never heard of "Asian glow"? It's not rare.

Uh, it's actually very rare in white, black, and hispanics; furthermore only like 1 in 3 asians are a carrier yet alone have the condition.

Lol, you must also have like 10 friends with celiac intolerance, just like how all of Niko's friends have ulcers and alcohol allergies. :lol

[AlphaWolf24]

This thread making me want to drink...

and while we on the topic...

Out here in Cali we have Mammoth Double Nut Brown Porter ( yeah I know)

stuff has been out only about 6 months....it's kinda hard to find so might have to call around different Liquor stores...

I don't even know if they carry it outta state yet?

But Trust me....stuff is amazing...smooth Chocolatey/Mocha and smooth as Sh!t...best beer I ever had.



yup I'm gonna go home tonight and get down with some Brown Double Nut's....:cheers:


https://d1c8v1qci5en44.cloudfront.net/photo/2014_08_26/35c5ed30a2be50785b6f41b4ff151c94_320x320.jpg

[Cocaine80s]

Uh, it's actually very rare in white, black, and hispanics; furthermore only like 1 in 3 asians are a carrier yet alone have the condition.

Lol, you must also have like 10 friends with celiac intolerance, just like how all of Niko's friends have ulcers and alcohol allergies. :lol
:biggums: that's why it's called asian glow :oldlol:

[BrownEye007]

I'll drink occasionally but I really don't like to. Never had a bad experience being drunk except for puking one time when I got a little too drunk. I just don't really like the feeling and would much rather smoke some weed or just be sober. Also I refuse to drink any vodka ever. Stuff makes me feel like straight garbage.

[niko]

Uh, it's actually very rare in white, black, and hispanics; furthermore only like 1 in 3 asians are a carrier yet alone have the condition.

Lol, you must also have like 10 friends with celiac intolerance, just like how all of Niko's friends have ulcers and alcohol allergies. :lol
I didn't say all my friends, I said 4 or 5 in the circle. I know a couple who both have the "asian glow" which if you know what it is basically is you can't process alcohol correctly. But I'm sure they should drink as to not make others feel uncomfortable. Conditions where dirnking isn't comfortable aren't rare either, I have acid reflux so drinking a lot isn't a good idea anymore, and my wife has a kind of ulcer that's never going away.

Face it, you said something stupid and you're in a Primetime "i'm going to argue no matter what" phase.

[Lebron23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3160995170/2f24b2b51cf3ee633227d58dc4742f4b.jpeg

http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2011/12/Rob-Schneider-Carrot-1323277424.jpg

Never trust a person who looks like a Carrot.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Da fuuuukkk

Never trust a person who shifts their eyes when talking to you and that's about all.

Alcohol consumption ain't got sh!t to do with sh!t.

[cuad]

Can you guys trust me if I don't drink unless it's free?

[9erempiree]

Happy St. Patty's Day.

Better be a lot of trustworthy people today.

[dude77]

what if you're a recovering alcoholic ?

[KNOW1EDGE]

That is probably some of the stupidest sh1t I've ever read on ISH.

Thanks OP.

[9erempiree]

That is probably some of the stupidest sh1t I've ever read on ISH.

Thanks OP.

Breh, it's a holiday and if you can't even have one green beer with me than I can't trust you.

Self-righteousness. :facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

Breh, it's a holiday and if you can't even have one green beer with me than I can't trust you.

Self-righteousness. :facepalm

bro-bro, I drink occasionally, but to surmise that someone should not be trusted because they don't drink is absurd to me.

I would think it should be the other way around. The most trust-worthy people in my life are most certainly the ones who never, and I mean never have or will, consume alcohol.

And St Paddys day is amateur hour. I don't go out, usually stay in or hang with a few friends and have some beers or smoke some tweeds.