Thunder without KD vs. Cavaliers without Lebron.

[Encre92]

Who wins in a series?

Kyrie
Waiters
Marion
Love
Varejao

vs

Westbrook
Jackson
Collison
Ibaka
Perkins

[russwest0]

Kyrie
Waiters
Marion
Love
Varejao

would win over

Westbrook
Roberson
PJ3
Ibaka
Perkins

[Beastmode88]

Who wins in a series?

Westbrook
Waiters
Marion
Ibaka
Perkins

vs

Kyrie
Jackson
Collison
Love
Varejao

:wtf: :wtf:

[Encre92]

:wtf: :wtf:
Good spot. Thanks I messed up the formatting.

[Encre92]

bran has a small dick an you suck it
All you do is talk about dick dick dick dick dick. Kobe fans must be hungry ever since he went down.

[Beastmode88]

Good spot. Thanks I messed up the formatting.

Cavs would win. Thunder are too dependant on KD/GOATbrook dropping 50+ together. Love/Irving/Waiter is already good enough to make the playoffs.

[JohnFreeman]

If it's the playoffs Westbrook goes carry team mode, but if not Cavs win

[Bigsmoke]

The Cavs.

LBJ >> Durant tho

[Bandito]

So the majority's decision is that the Cavs are stronger. Good to know. Thanks OP.

[TheMarkMadsen]

That cavs team still looks nasty even without Lebron.

[Bigsmoke]

If it's the playoffs Westbrook goes carry team mode, but if not Cavs win

Teams are gonna focus on Westbrook. Watch his FG% dip down to 42% if KD ever goes down.

[Encre92]

Westbrook can carry a team of nobodies deep into the playoffs let alone a team with Ibaka and Reggie Jackson.

[russwest0]

Westbrook can carry a team of nobodies deep into the playoffs let alone a team with Ibaka and Reggie Jackson.

he's gotten outplayed by kyrie in almost all of their matchups.

give kyrie love, marion, miller, waiters, varejao, tristan, etc.. and take durant away from westbrook?

lmao it's not even close

[Fudge]

That Cavs team would still win the championship.

[russwest0]

the only position OKC is even better at is PG and thats tough because in this matchup their pg doesn't even play better

[Encre92]

That Cavs team would still win the championship.
No they won't.

[Jlamb47]

The Cavs are stil top team in the EAST without Lebron

Irving
Waiters
Marion/Miller
Love
Varejao

That team could still beat majority teams.
so Cavs

[Beastmode88]

The Cavs are stil top team in the EAST without Lebron

Irving
Waiters
Marion/Miller
Love
Varejao

That team could still beat majority teams.
so Cavs

Not if Lebron was still in Miami.

[Jlamb47]

Not if Lebron was still in Miami.

Cavs would stil be a top team in the EAST with Lebron on Miami.

Miami
Cavs
Bulls

who else??? i didnt say best team in the EAST

[Beastmode88]

Cavs would stil be a top team in the EAST with Lebron on Miami.

Miami
Cavs
Bulls

who else??? i didnt say best team in the EAST

Sorry misread I thought you said top team.

[Jlamb47]

Sorry misread I thought you said top team.

oh nah lol

[pegasus]

Cavs of course. They won't lose in the East if Lebron doesn't play. The only chance they lose, if Lebron does play and plays like he did in the 2011 finals, which he is still capable of.

[Angel Face]

Lebron stacking the deck as usual. Left aging stacked Heat team to form a younger stacked Cavs team with fresher legs "Collusion 2.0". His essay tho... :roll:

[imdaman99]

#Stacked
#Quittage
#Collusion2.0

Rinse, repeat, recycle

[Budadiiii]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time

[riseagainst]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time


:roll:

[Fudge]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time
Lmfao, holy shit. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Bodied.

[StephHamann]

http://realrozay.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/sc20130415-110311-1.jpg

[Bigsmoke]

You guys are super gay lol

[Bigsmoke]

The Cavs are stil top team in the EAST without Lebron

Irving
Waiters
Marion/Miller
Love
Varejao

That team could still beat majority teams.
so Cavs
The bulls would beat that team

[Jlamb47]

The bulls would beat that team

Yeah i know

Rose + Pau + Noah is a good trio

plus the role players and Gibson

But other then bulls and Miami this the Cavs look REAL GOOD atleast on paper

[aj1987]

Yeah i know

Rose + Pau + Noah is a good trio

plus the role players and Gibson

But other then bulls and Miami this the Cavs look REAL GOOD atleast on paper
Raptors, Wizards, and Pacers with PG as well.

[Jlamb47]

Raptors, Wizards, and Pacers with PG as well.

Pacers wont do ish next year no PG
Wizards are a good team but they wont beat Cavs
IDK about raptors they need some more big man
Derozan and Lowry are good but Irving is better

[aj1987]

Pacers wont do ish next year no PG
Wizards are a good team but they wont beat Cavs
IDK about raptors they need some more big man
Derozan and Lowry are good but Irving is better
This is the Cav's without LeBron, right? Yeah, they team is not beating the Heat, Bulls (with a healthy Rose), Raps, and the Wizards. If PG was healthy, they wouldn't get past the Pacers either. That teams severely lacks defense. Add a couple of 3&D guys, and they make the Finals.

[Paul George 24]

Who wins in a series?

Kyrie
Waiters
Marion
Love
Varejao

vs

Westbrook
Jackson
Collison
Ibaka
Perkins

okc will win,westbrooks is okc's true leader,whie kd always invisible when need

[Jlamb47]

okc will win,westbrooks is okc's true leader,whie kd always invisible when need

Your saying this prolly cuz of last year playoff.
If you really watched OKC you would know KD is their clutchest player. Even that 3 he hit against Grizzlies

Russ was the one getting criticized for his decision making in the crunch time and now hes the true leader when kd is invisible

Kd just won MVP

[russwest0]

This is the Cav's without LeBron, right? Yeah, they team is not beating the Heat, Bulls (with a healthy Rose), Raps, and the Wizards. If PG was healthy, they wouldn't get past the Pacers either. That teams severely lacks defense. Add a couple of 3&D guys, and they make the Finals.

lmao stop.

they'd lose to the Bulls and that would be it.

Kyrie and Love is a sick duo in and of itself. Adding in Waiters, Miller, Marion, Tristan, Varejao, Haywood, and potentially Ray Allen is more than enough to beat any team besides the Bulls, who they could still beat.

[Beastmode88]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time

Wow the ether is strong..

[dannywpt]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time

:eek:



:applause:

[aj1987]

lmao stop.

they'd lose to the Bulls and that would be it.

Kyrie and Love is a sick duo in and of itself. Adding in Waiters, Miller, Marion, Tristan, Varejao, Haywood, and potentially Ray Allen is more than enough to beat any team besides the Bulls, who they could still beat.

Miller and Marion are basically done. Allen is 83 years old. Out of the 3 only Marion can defend and at this point, even he can't make a difference with his defense. Varejao is constantly injured and is a role-player. Haywood? :oldlol: . Waiters, Love, and Irving are studs on the offensive end, but the suck ass on the defensive end.

Yeah, that team is not beating the Bulls (with a healthy Rose), Raptors, Wizards, and the Heat.

Also, didn't your dumbass say that Miami would make the Finals without LeBron? How are Cav's gonna beat them?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Cavs w/o Bron would be one of the worst defensive teams in the league, but I still could count on Brooks to choke the series away. Close though... The Thunder team has much more experience with the playoffs and a good leader in Westbrook, but the Cavs lack that. I think it's pretty even since one team has great offense and the other has great defense. It'd be easier to answer this once we see Blatt in action.

[Lebronxrings]

thunder
Westbrook>Irving
Jackson>waiters
perryjones = marion
ibaka>Love
Perkins>Varejao.

[Lebronxrings]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time
mods

[riseagainst]

mods

he posts his honest opinion and you post this:


thunder
Westbrook>Irving
Jackson>waiters
perryjones = marion
ibaka>Love
Perkins>Varejao.


you should be banned instead of him.

[Lebronxrings]

he posts his honest opinion and you post this:




you should be banned instead of him.
both ibaka and perkins have much greater defense then love and varejao. Ibaka can shoot, play in the post and a DPOY candidate. Perkins is a great low post defender and can shoot it at times.

[riseagainst]

both ibaka and perkins have much greater defense then love and varejao. Ibaka can shoot, play in the post and a DPOY candidate. Perkins is a great low post defender and can shoot it at times.

they are not better than Love and Varejao

[Prometheus]

bran has a small dick an you suck it

I have literally seen this guy say "bran has a small dick" at least thirty times. What a ****ing weirdo...

[Prometheus]

That Cavs team would still win the championship.

You're better than this Fudge. Don't stoop.

[I<3NBA]

Miller and Marion are basically done. Allen is 83 years old. Out of the 3 only Marion can defend and at this point, even he can't make a difference with his defense. Varejao is constantly injured and is a role-player. Haywood? :oldlol: . Waiters, Love, and Irving are studs on the offensive end, but the suck ass on the defensive end.

Yeah, that team is not beating the Bulls (with a healthy Rose), Raptors, Wizards, and the Heat.

Also, didn't your dumbass say that Miami would make the Finals without LeBron? How are Cav's gonna beat them?
:lol :lol :lol :applause:

[russwest0]

wait did this guy just ask how LeBron/Kyrie/Love are gonna beat the HEAT?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

wait did this guy just ask how LeBron/Kyrie/Love are gonna beat the HEAT?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

He's obviously too dumb to realize that when people said the heat would make the finals that we weren't accounting for Lebron creating another super team with Love & Irving for the heat to compete with.

But we should have known.. Lebron runs in trios. That's just how he is.

[aj1987]

wait did this guy just ask how LeBron/Kyrie/Love are gonna beat the HEAT?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



He's obviously too dumb to realize that when people said the heat would make the finals that we weren't accounting for Lebron creating another super team with Love & Irving for the heat to compete with.

But we should have known.. Lebron runs in trios. That's just how he is.
How stupid are you guys? :facepalm

It's the Heat without LeBron vs a hypothetical Cav's team without LeBron as well. I thought most of my posts were in simple english.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Cavs have Love so Cavs will win. Love is better than Ibaka hands down.

[Budadiiii]

Cavs have Love so Cavs will win. Love is better than Ibaka hands down.
WTF? That's not even remotely debatable at this point. Love is literally a top 5 player in the league.

Is Ibaka even top 50?

[MiseryCityTexas]

Every center the Cavs have on they roster is probably better than Perkins, or at least just as good as Steve Adams

[Dragic4Life]

Cavs have Love so Cavs will win. Love is better than Ibaka hands down.
It's arguable. Don't give me that "hands down" crap. It's extremely close. Defense vs Offense. Pick your poison.

And please tell me Love's playoff averages, I forgot about his numbers. Show me some evidence that Love's game can translate into the playoffs, into a series.

[Budadiiii]

Every center the Cavs have on they roster is probably better than Perkins, or at least just as good as Steve Adams
Probably? Perkins is hands down the worst center in the league, possibly the worst center in the history of the god damn sport.

And Steven Adams is 21 years old.

Can you imagine Varejaon on this Thunder team? Thunder have the worst depth at center of any contending team I've ever seen.

[BrownEye007]

Lets see...
Westbrook > Kyrie but not when they play each other
Love > Ibaka
Waiters > Jackson
Everybody else on the Thunder is pretty much scrub level while the Cavs still have some serviceable players after their top 4.

In conclusion Cavs win and it isn't even close.

[Paul George 24]

Cavs have Love so Cavs will win. Love is better than Ibaka hands down.

can love play any defence :roll:

[Spurs5Rings2014]

And this is why LeBron can't be top ten.

Sorry.....

You stack the deck and quit like a bitch and at the most finish with only 3 rings, 1 of which only came because Ray Allen put his superman cape and effectively saved LeBron from a tsunami the size of Glorias puss, and it's pretty easy to see that LeBron is maybe top 20 but just can't enter that top 10. Never. Especially considering he is responsible for some of the biggest collapses in sports history. If you consider everything he has done in his career... the quitting, the choking, the collusion, the abandonment, the childish remarks to the media.... all that considered, this dude has a below average career.

Sad for a guy blessed with the physical toolset to be the greatest athlete in history.

If the Cavs don't win this year with quite possibly the most stacked team in modern history, I'll probably stop watching basketball all together until LeBron retires. Watching a man who loses and chokes at such a level that you feel sorry for him isn't good for the soul and I think that is when I call it quits and find something else to do with my time

:lebronamazed: