Tim Duncan is a 90 on 2k15

[Im Still Ballin]

Are they serious?

[Fudge]

Ya bro

[JUDGE WITNESS]

no

[Im Still Ballin]

I feel as though his current playing ability and athletic state does not warrant him a 90 overall rating !!!

This is a media driven hype perpetrating that Duncan is still a 90's guy. Come on. Not even close Virgin Island Uncle Bones.

[dr.hee]

Are they serious?

2k15 has finally a new rating system, where the singular OVR rating is replaced by different player types for each position, reflecting various roles and specialists. For each type, the rating is calculated seperately and the highest value gets displayed. So I guess Duncan deservedly gets a high rating as either "Defensive" or "All-Around".


Or simply put, two centers with the same overall rating can be totally different player types with unique strengths. This wasn't possible before. So finally, OVR makes some sense. We'll still have idiots talking about whether Melo "deserves" this or Lebron "needs" that though...

[Milbuck]

:biggums:

Explain to me how Duncan is better than Westbrook. Westbrook was probably the 2nd best player in the world during the playoffs..and 38 year old Duncan who didn't win FMVP on his own team is 2 points better than him?

Or 5 ****ing points better than Kawhi..who was clearly the more impactful player for the Spurs all year and especially in the later stages of the playoffs...hence the FMVP.

[Mass Debator]

:roll:

He's more like a 81 but up to 86 max.

[MP.Trey]

New player rating system. Don't take it too serious. Ratings never mattered anyway, it's how they play/sim that matters.

[Optimus Prime]

Tim Duncan is still a great player...when he actually plays. As long as he has a low rating for Stamina, I think it's fine.

[dr.hee]

:biggums:

Explain to me how Duncan is better than Westbrook. Westbrook was probably the 2nd best player in the world during the playoffs..and 38 year old Duncan who didn't win FMVP on his own team is 2 points better than him?

Or 5 ****ing points better than Kawhi..who was clearly the more impactful player for the Spurs all year and especially in the later stages of the playoffs...hence the FMVP.

New rating system? You can't compare overall ratings across different positions, doesn't make any sense at all.

[Im Still Ballin]

If Duncan is a 90, then our own Louie John is atleast a 20.

[dr.hee]

If Duncan is a 90, then our own Louie John is atleast a 20.

You really should look up how OVR is calculated in 2k15 before talking about it.

[Im Still Ballin]

You really should look up how OVR is calculated in 2k15 before talking about it.
Tim ain't a 90. Thats the bottom line.

[moaz]

He is in good company: Dirk is up to 88 (from 84 last year).
The are no. 1 & 3 PFs. I think love is no. 2 with 89.

No 1 and No 3 combining 75 years is not good for the young PFs in the league.

[dr.hee]

Tim ain't a 90. Thats the bottom line.

Since you have no clue what the number even means an how it's calculated, how could you know?

[Im Still Ballin]

Since you have no clue what the number even means an how it's calculated, how could you know?
You trying to get smart with me? You're not even a real doctor

[Rake2204]

Here's a brief rundown from a developer at 2K as to how overalls are now calculated:

Each Position has a set of Archetypes (or Player Types, if you will). All-Around, Athletic, Defensive, etc. Some positions share some of them, some have some unique ones too. A player has an overall per player type per position. So a player has (NumberOfPositions * NumberOfPlayerTypesPerPosition) overall ratings. Each Positional Player Type has its own overall formula (so PG All Around has a different formula than PF All Around has a different formula than C Defensive).

Whenever his overall rating gets updated, we calculate all the overall ratings for his position by player type. The player type that gives him his the highest overall is the one we determine "most compatible", so we assign it to him along with that Overall.

So yes, a player that might be C All-Around but as years go by sees his offensive attributes regress but you've made sure to keep him up to par defensively using (cheap plug but I'm a dev) our new in-season Training system, might see his player type change to C Defensive, and his value to the team will still be there.I mentioned this in the Video Game Forum but I think the idea was to reflect a player's importance to his team and the game, whereas "Overall" before was more or less a composite, leading some players who were legendary in many categories but so-so in others while still having an incredible impact on his team (ex: Dirk Nowitzki) often receiving a lower rating than a guy who's not great at anything but does a number of things particularly well.

Now, it seems players like Nowtizki and Duncan are rated more heavily according to their roles. I think another example would be Joakim Noah. In years past, players like Noah would receive lower overalls by default because they'd be punished for, say, not being good three point shooters, whether that was an integral part of their role or not. It seems now, with Noah likely being a player type of "Defensive", his rebounding ability and blocking will impact his overall much more significantly than things like three point shooting and ball security, thus potentially leading to a higher overall for Noah than we've previously grown accustomed.

[Mass Debator]

You trying to get smart with me? You're not even a real doctor
:roll:

[Milbuck]

New rating system? You can't compare overall ratings across different positions, doesn't make any sense at all.
I get that it's a new rating system..but it being new shouldn't absolve them of blame for it being flat out inaccurate.. Obviously if Duncan is rated higher than Westbrook something isn't working correctly with it, which warrants it being called out.

[Kblaze8855]

Explain how Duncan's rating reflects in any way on Westbrook when there is a different formula for arriving at each number.

It's like saying someone got a math problem wrong because their answer is different than yours when you aren't even solving the same problem.

The ratings are totally independent.....because the formula for arriving at them varies.

[Imtheman]

Its a video game who cares..The rating goes up or down depending on how the player actually plays during the season anyway

[ralph_i_el]

Tim ain't a 90. Thats the bottom line.
:facepalm He also isn't a 592, or a 49.5, or a 3.14

If you don't know the context of the numbers, then don't bother talking about them.

[Smoke117]

All the ratings on this game are ridiculous.

[dr.hee]

All the ratings on this game are ridiculous.

Where did you get it so early? You're not talking out of your ass, right?

[All Net]

Being rewarded.

[Im so nba'd out]

they needed to fix the ratings along time ago. jason maxiell was a higher rating than andrea bargnani the year he averaged like 22 ppg

[Shade8780]

It's funny because 2K hired Bedwardsroy19, a very popular roster maker in the community, and now since he's worked on 2K15, people are still complaining about ratings. New rating systems, no more '2K Insider', and more accurate ratings.

[buddha]

Or simply put, two centers with the same overall rating can be totally different player types with unique strengths. This wasn't possible before.

Yes it was... :coleman:

[buddha]

thus potentially leading to a higher overall for Noah than we've previously grown accustomed.

the overall rating is just for looks, it's not going to change how the player plays on the court. actually it will effect contract negotiations, so it isn't just for looks if you play a franchise.

[Rake2204]

the overall rating is just for looks, it's not going to change how the player plays on the court. actually it will effect contract negotiations, so it isn't just for looks if you play a franchise.Yeah, I think that may have been part of the idea. A guy like Andre Drummond held less trade value in 2K in the past due to his mediocre overall (thanks largely to being an awful shooting outside of four feet). His value according to his player type should (and did) boost his overall, perhaps more closely providing the value he truly holds.

[CelticBalla32]

Duncan is still much better than his per-game numbers show, but he isn't a 90 anymore.

Either way, good. Maybe now in Association the Spurs won't suck and get swept in the first round every year haha. That always bothered me in my 2K14 and 2K13 Associations.

[TheReal Kendall]

From what I'm reading I like the new rating system.

You can't compare a PF/C to a PG.

Also at the end of the day the only thing that matters is your skill.

I swear people just wanna complain about any and everything nowadays. My main concern with 2k is that they need to step up the gameplay and bring crew mode back.

[Shih508]

Tim Duncan is much more important than Kobe for his team. I find it OK he has high rating.

If Kobe has 90 rating then that's something needs to be changed.