So is beating your 4 yr old kid

[Godzuki]

whether its disciplining him or whatever, as bad as hitting your wife? :confusedshrug:


2:31 PM PT -- The Vikings have issued a statement saying ... "The Vikings are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson."

"At this time, we will defer further questions to Adrian’s attorney Rusty Hardin."
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Minnesota Vikings superstar Adrian Peterson has been indicted for child abuse in North Montgomery County, TX ... TMZ Sports has learned.

Sources connected to Peterson tell us ... the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota who was visiting Adrian back in May at AP's home in Texas.

We're told the child returned home to his mother in Minn. who noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor. A short time later, the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Adrian.

Child Protective Services confirms it is working on a case involving Peterson. Multiple sources tell us the alleged victim is a 4-year-old boy.

Peterson was indicted in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child, this according to MyFOX Houston 26.

Peterson missed Vikings team practice yesterday -- though the team explained it as a "veteran's day." Peterson did attend practice today and was said to be laughing and joking on the field.

Earlier today, Peterson posted a message on Twitter -- though it's unclear if it's related to the case.

"People understand that if you are on God's course and suppose to have that position and man decides to remove you know that God will remove everyone to place you rightfully! You matter!"

"Its your season! Weapons may form but won’t prosper! God has you covered don’t stress or worry!"

Story developing ...

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz3D8qTUT34


The NFL can't catch a break. Wonder how Goodell is going to handle this one :pimp:

[sweggeh]

Its worse. A kid is even more vulnerable than a woman. Lets see what happens.

[MavsSuperFan]

totally depends on how he hit the kid.

If he spanked him no problem.

If he punched the kid in the face, problem

If the kid has cigarette burns serious problem

[Smoke117]

We need more information to make an informed opinion.

[sweggeh]

We need more information to make an informed opinion.

I think you are confused. This is ISH.

[fpliii]

Evidently he was using a switch on his kid:

http://nypost.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-in-child-injury-case-report/

Pretty beta of AP if it's true.

[Smoke117]

I honestly believe in hitting kids. I wish I was hit more as a kid. ( I needed more discipline as a kid) Taking away cellphones, ipads, videogames, what have you is not going to do shit. That's why my generation (30) is full of so many p.ussies whining at their shrinks, on antidepressants and anxiety medications (and this future generation growing up will be be worse) while my grandfathers generation was going to war and then coming back and raising their children. My parents generation was the beginning of the end when they stopped holding children as accountable for their actions and got soft.

I remember on the way to school when I was 10-12 and my grandpa was taking me to school and I smarted off and he back handed me right in the mouth (and he wore this big damn ring) and split my lip open. Did I die? no. Did I go cry to child services? no. I did stop mouthing off though, lol. I needed more of that from my mom and dad.

[niko]

Depends on what happened. Lot of details are strange. I don't think we have details to figure out what happened.

Generally in life it's not a good idea to physically hurt people who are smaller and weaker than you. Very little can come of it that's positive. Note: I've whacked my kids hard on the backside, i've given my son a smack off the top of his head too. Especially if they put themselves or others in danger. But if you're a big guy, going to get a stick to hit a 4 year old with, i don't get that. What would warrant that?

Whacking your kid because they misbehave can be accomplished without a literal beating. There's a huge way in between those two things.

[senelcoolidge]

Children need disciplining. I'm glad my father spanked me. Made me a better person. A respectful person. I will do the same with my children, but I will be more patient. Spanking would come as a last resort after talking to them a few times and they not heeding. You discipline out of love. Also you don't need to go overboard with switches and things that will scar the children that is abuse.

[bdreason]

I have no problem with spanking when it's needed. 4 years old seems a little young to be receiving physical punishment though. Kids don't usually start talking back until they're at least 6ish.

[2LeTTeRS]

I was hit with a switch a few times as a kid and while I am not totally anti switch; there's no excuse to hit a 4 year old 10 to 15 times with one.

[2LeTTeRS]

I have no problem with spanking when it's needed. 4 years old seems a little young to be receiving physical punishment though. Kids don't usually start talking back until they're at least 6ish.

6? Not true at all. My son is 16 months old and will raise his hand to hit you if you tell him "no." When he starts talking I'm sure he'll try to talk back; thats not a reason to hit him though.

[russwest0]

I think you are confused. This is ISH.

:lol

[bdreason]

6? Not true at all. My son is 16 months old and will raise his hand to hit you if you tell him "no." When he starts talking I'm sure he'll try to talk back; thats not a reason to hit him though.


What I meant is that younger kids can typically be broken verbally, so they don't require physical punishment. Obviously ever kid is different, but I find it hard to imagine you need to physically punish a 4 year old to make your point.

[MMM]

Don't have a problem with spanking but it can lose its effectiveness when it is done because a parent is overwhelmed by the kid and done out of frustrations, agressiveness, anger, etc. I wouldn't necarrily want to showcase those negative emotions to children at that age.

BTW, it would be helarious to see partners in relationship spank the opposing partner

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I've been spanked with drum sticks, belts, you name it. Granted, I was a brat of a kid. Those beatings helped me become the person I am now.

[ace23]

Who the hell is this kid and why is AD abusing him?

[MMM]

Who the hell is this kid and why is AD abusing him?

hey man do you ever get the anwsers to all your questions????

[longhornfan1234]

I'll never understand why you have to spank a kid to make a point. Seems like you'd have to lack creative problem solving skills. Save me the trashy stories about your parents telling you to go find a switch in your back yard. Your parents chose the easy way and less effective way.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

I honestly believe in hitting kids. I wish I was hit more as a kid. ( I needed more discipline as a kid) Taking away cellphones, ipads, videogames, what have you is not going to do shit. That's why my generation (30) is full of so many p.ussies whining at their shrinks, on antidepressants and anxiety medications (and this future generation growing up will be be worse) while my grandfathers generation was going to war and then coming back and raising their children. My parents generation was the beginning of the end when they stopped holding children as accountable for their actions and got soft.

I remember on the way to school when I was 10-12 and my grandpa was taking me to school and I smarted off and he back handed me right in the mouth (and he wore this big damn ring) and split my lip open. Did I die? no. Did I go cry to child services? no. I did stop mouthing off though, lol. I needed more of that from my mom and dad.

:rolleyes:

[KNOW1EDGE]

A 4 year old brain does not understand the difference between right and wrong and spanking a 4 year old as a form of discipline or teaching is useless and completely ineffective.

If this sh1t is true then I hope the NFL loses another one of its premier running backs. No need to ever harm a 4 year old. Tf?

[ace23]

hey man do you ever get the anwsers to all your questions????
How drunk are you right now?

Btw I think an important detail people are overlooking is that it's not even his kid. The ****?

[TheMan]

I honestly believe in hitting kids. I wish I was hit more as a kid. ( I needed more discipline as a kid) Taking away cellphones, ipads, videogames, what have you is not going to do shit. That's why my generation (30) is full of so many p.ussies whining at their shrinks, on antidepressants and anxiety medications (and this future generation growing up will be be worse) while my grandfathers generation was going to war and then coming back and raising their children. My parents generation was the beginning of the end when they stopped holding children as accountable for their actions and got soft.

I remember on the way to school when I was 10-12 and my grandpa was taking me to school and I smarted off and he back handed me right in the mouth (and he wore this big damn ring) and split my lip open. Did I die? no. Did I go cry to child services? no. I did stop mouthing off though, lol. I needed more of that from my mom and dad.
:applause: Real talk

[TheMan]

AP needs a 4 game suspension effective immediately. The NFC North is already tough enough with the Packers and Lions, us Bears fans should not have to worry about the upstart Vikings getting in the mix, too. Child abuse is serious shit, get on top of this one Goodell:facepalm

[Fawker]

beating is bad period. that is what society is trying to say about laying your hands on man, woman and child. it doesn.t solve and better the persons mistake. and as far as old school dicipline, blacks are way behind in modern time success.

[PHX_Phan]

AP probably went overboard, but it's annoying as hell that people are so sensitive about physically disciplining their children to the point a spanking is considered child abuse.

Some kids need more strict forms of discipline. Bothers the shit out of me when I see some person's kid running around and acting like a little piece of shit while the parent just verbally tells them to stop, and the kid ain't havin' it. They take away a toy and the kid just acts out even more.

I caught the belt a few times when I was young, it wasn't needed much after that. My Mom didn't have to correct me three times because I respected the first command. I wasn't beat, didn't fear my parents. I knew I was going to get my ass whipped, and it was going to sting. Big difference between that and random severe beatings where the kid fears how bad the next will be. You want them to fear the consequence, not you.

[Budadiiii]

I honestly believe in hitting kids. I wish I was hit more as a kid. ( I needed more discipline as a kid) Taking away cellphones, ipads, videogames, what have you is not going to do shit. That's why my generation (30) is full of so many p.ussies whining at their shrinks, on antidepressants and anxiety medications (and this future generation growing up will be be worse) while my grandfathers generation was going to war and then coming back and raising their children. My parents generation was the beginning of the end when they stopped holding children as accountable for their actions and got soft.

I remember on the way to school when I was 10-12 and my grandpa was taking me to school and I smarted off and he back handed me right in the mouth (and he wore this big damn ring) and split my lip open. Did I die? no. Did I go cry to child services? no. I did stop mouthing off though, lol. I needed more of that from my mom and dad.
:facepalm

Your grandpa should be in jail.

You cannot hit kids. I repeat, YOU CANNOT HIT KIDS.

I was never hit as a child and I'm by far the most disciplined person on this website.

You say.... "I wish I was hit more as a kid" ..... Why? Aren't you old enough to discipline yourself? Why did your parents need to spoon-feed you discipline? Are you too stupid to do it yourself once you reach a certain age? :facepalm

Having a peaceful childhood is very important.

And like someone said.... blacks kids are beaten like crazy and well... yeah.... doesn't do a damn bit of good.

[Bless Mathews]

I have kids.

Don't know how many of you do. ALL (except macho man, he likes guys) have had emotional relationships with women. They fuccin get you mAd. Rr snapped in a split second after she hit him and was lunging at him.

Ap PREMEDITATELY got A stick Nd beat a 4 year old 16 times. Stuffed leaves in his mouth. I'm sure it was a chAotic event. Poor kid scared as fucc screaming while a grown man that can bench 350 pounds is whaling away yelling at him.

4 year olds are into Elmo and angry birds underwear. Have their baby teeth. What ap did is ridiculous. Horrible.

[StephHamann]

They should throw him out of the NFL, i dont like the Vikings

[CelticBaller]

Way worse, you want know what's more defenseless than a woman? A 4 year old

[DCL]

a 4 year old can be disciplined without hitting him/her. just take his/her toys away.

[the mesiah]

Sucks it happnd to the 4 y/o, this just helped my nfl pool league for this Sundays game

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Worse. Kids do shit cos they don't know any better. You can't go to town on a 4 year old whatever they do

[InfiniteBaskets]

Sounds like AP did more than just spank the kid for discipline purposes. AP did say his own father disciplined him as a boy, but that excuse is not gonna work in these times when you're using a tree branch and hitting your kid so hard he's got cuts and bruises on his body.

That just sounds like an angry man who wanted to take something out on his kid, which imo is much much worse than the Ray Rice situation.

Plus, I'd imagine a 4 year old is way too young to need a harsh spanking. Did AP's son eat too many skittles? Watch too much TV? Oh well then let's beat him unconscious!

[Megabox!]

AP probably went overboard, but it's annoying as hell that people are so sensitive about physically disciplining their children to the point a spanking is considered child abuse.

Some kids need more strict forms of discipline. Bothers the shit out of me when I see some person's kid running around and acting like a little piece of shit while the parent just verbally tells them to stop, and the kid ain't havin' it. They take away a toy and the kid just acts out even more.

I caught the belt a few times when I was young, it wasn't needed much after that. My Mom didn't have to correct me three times because I respected the first command. I wasn't beat, didn't fear my parents. I knew I was going to get my ass whipped, and it was going to sting. Big difference between that and random severe beatings where the kid fears how bad the next will be. You want them to fear the consequence, not you.
Exactly!! Society is too damn sensitive these days and it's a damn shame that a person can't discipline their own god damn child without everyone else having something to say about it. Whooping a child isn't going to have any psychological effects on them, the only thing it's going to do is to let them know not to act out again.

[Snow]

I remember working in Aspen, seeing all these rich moms trying to talk to their children like they were equals and threatening them with timeouts, and watching with disgust as the kids invariably ignored their mothers and did what they wanted anyway or went on a tirade. The worst behaved kids I have ever seen in my life were these spoiled little shits. I always thought to myself why don't you wack that ****er on the ass.

My aunt was very hippy type liberal and she would become irate with my uncle for spanking his kids. He didn't beat them or use foreign objects, but used spank them on the butt. She told him everything from he was damaging their self esteem to actually creating a sense of dependency or some BS, where his children would act out just to get spanked, thereby getting his attention. Well all three of my uncle's kids went to good universities and got good jobs, while my aunt's son has had scrapes with the law, and went to a mediocre college, and her daughter, my cousin, is a straight up meth head with mental issues. Damn that hands off approach really worked out for her.:oldlol:

[CelticBaller]

Exactly!! Society is too damn sensitive these days and it's a damn shame that a person can't discipline their own god damn child without everyone else having something to say about it. Whooping a child isn't going to have any psychological effects on them, the only thing it's going to do is to let them know not to act out again.
Yeah, what better way to discipline then than to whip them in the balls

[Kblaze8855]

Depends. A man who beats women is pretty low. Am I prepared to call 200 million parents no better than abusive husbands over a spanking?

No.

If you have raised a 4 year old you know there is only so much logic they can absorb. If his son is sneaking through the fence to play by the pool at 4-5 years old and hes explained why he shouldnt 2 times already....

If a spanking prevents it in the future....greater good.

I did a lot of shit as a kid. Some of it I got my ass beat for...much of it deserved. I damn near burned down a church bathroom....

[CelticBaller]

Depends. A man who beats women is pretty low. Am I prepared to call 200 million parents no better than abusive husbands over a spanking?

No.

If you have raised a 4 year old you know there is only so much logic they can absorb. If his son is sneaking through the fence to play by the pool at 4-5 years old and hes explained why he shouldnt 2 times already....

If a spanking prevents it in the future....greater good.

I did a lot of shit as a kid. Some of it I got my ass beat for...much of it deserved. I damn near burned down a church bathroom....
You got whipped in the balls?

[Godzuki]

CBS 11 Houston reports Adrian Peterson is being investigated for another child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.
According to the news station, one of Peterson's four-year-old son's was disciplined by Peterson for cursing at one of his siblings. The boy sustained a scar over his right eye. Peterson has at least five children with multiple different women, and is believed to have as many as seven kids out of wedlock. If more information comes to light, the Vikings could discipline Peterson yet again.

just after being reinstated by the Vikings... glad he's not on my fantasy team :cheers:

i saw the pics of him whipping his other kid and that shit is messed up. i get disciplining your kids but that is what i'd call beating. and punching this other kid in the eye? dude is a child abuser.

[fpliii]

CBS 11 Houston reports Adrian Peterson is being investigated for another child abuse accusation involving one of his other sons.
According to the news station, one of Peterson's four-year-old son's was disciplined by Peterson for cursing at one of his siblings. The boy sustained a scar over his right eye. Peterson has at least five children with multiple different women, and is believed to have as many as seven kids out of wedlock. If more information comes to light, the Vikings could discipline Peterson yet again.

just after being reinstated by the Vikings... glad he's not on my fantasy team :cheers:

i saw the pics of him whipping his other kid and that shit is messed up. i get disciplining your kids but that is what i'd call beating. and punching this other kid in the eye? dude is a child abuser.
He's pretty much done at this point, right?

[Godzuki]

He's pretty much done at this point, right?


i just read Texas law allows child abuse lol

so i think not.

[Akrazotile]

Depends. A man who beats women is pretty low. Am I prepared to call 200 million parents no better than abusive husbands over a spanking?

No.

If you have raised a 4 year old you know there is only so much logic they can absorb. If his son is sneaking through the fence to play by the pool at 4-5 years old and hes explained why he shouldnt 2 times already....

If a spanking prevents it in the future....greater good.

I did a lot of shit as a kid. Some of it I got my ass beat for...much of it deserved. I damn near burned down a church bathroom....



What about flogging one 4 year old like a slave and slamming a car seat on another 4 year old's head?

[Dresta]

Did he do anything worthy of an ass-whoopin?

[Dresta]

a 4 year old can be disciplined without hitting him/her. just take his/her toys away.
Not spoiling my kids with toys. A potato and stick will do, and if they misbehave i'll take away the stick (which can also be used to discipline the child).

[dude77]

I'm all for a good spanking but there's such a thing as going overboard .. reports say his ball sack had injuries ? .. tone that shit down .. you really have to aim close to his privates or aim at it to get to that area .. but I can understand a good whooping even with a switch .. some kids can get really out of control and disrespectful and need to be disciplined firmly .. you know what I'm talking about if you were that kid or have witnessed a kid like that