Why do people think Lebron uses PEDs?

[Im Still Ballin]

He has NEVER been caught. Clean as Captain Planet. So lets stop the mindless speculation. There is no proof. Instead of finding ways to disregard him and his abilities/achievements, lets instead, CELEBRATE the man.

A decorated champion. Two time NBA WORLD champion, two time FINALS MVP, a 4 time NBA MVP. The list goes on.

Sometimes us as fans assume things because that player is unbelievably good. If you cant prove something, don't say it.

[Beastmode88]

Lance armstrong was tested over and over but wasn't caught til recently.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Sometimes us as fans assume things because that player is unbelievably good. If you cant prove something, don't say it.
This. I feel like PED accusations contribute to the fact that LeBron is one of the best players of all time.

[SpecialQue]

He has NEVER been caught. Clean as Captain Planet. So lets stop the mindless speculation. There is no proof. Instead of finding ways to disregard him and his abilities/achievements, lets instead, CELEBRATE the man.

A decorated champion. Two time NBA WORLD champion, two time FINALS MVP, a 4 time NBA MVP. The list goes on.

Sometimes us as fans assume things because that player is unbelievably good. If you cant prove something, don't say it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9829206&postcount=2


Kobe's greatest gift is as a rapist.

The dude straight up FORCES the penetration on the defense !

:coleman:

[Im Still Ballin]

Lance armstrong was tested over and over but wasn't caught til recently.
You cannot compare Apples to Oranges.

[Warfan]

Do you really think we'd find out the truth about bron though? The NBA is business, they wouldn't jeopardize it. I wouldn't be that surprised if PED use is rampant across the league either.

And didn't he get some surgery on his jaw 4-5 years ago?

[russwest0]

This is why:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4226010


The Cleveland Cavaliers star underwent surgery at the Cleveland Clinic to remove a benign growth in his mouth, the team said. Dr. Frank Papay performed a five-hour procedure on James' parotid gland, which produces saliva. Surgery for such conditions often takes time because of the numerous nerves and blood vessels in that area of the jaw.

The Cavaliers released a statement saying doctors were "pleased with the outcome of the procedure, and at this time, are confident that no further treatment will be needed as LeBron is expected to make a full and complete recovery."

He literally had to have surgery because of excessive jaw growth.

[Im Still Ballin]

This is why:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4226010



He literally had to have surgery because of excessive jaw growth.
That's a BIG assumption. Some guys just have so much growth hormone in their system NATURALLY. Heck. We're talking about a giant of a man, let alone a all-time genetically jacked one at that. The force is strong in this one. Having extreme natural levels can disrupt homeostasis. Sometimes things like this happen. Its nature bro.

Don't assume a black man stabbed you because there is a stigma attached to them as being "aggressive". Point being, this doesn't prove anything.

[Beastmode88]

You cannot compare Apples to Oranges.

How? PEDs are PEDs. Ryan Braun and A Rod have never been caught til last year. The MLB drug test all the time and has run into numerous scandals relating PEDs; that being said do you think they haven't drug tested them before or they just started dopping last year? so whats the difference in different athletes taking PEDs?

[JT123]

Let's be honest, it's much more likely that Kobe is using PED's. In 2012-13 he looked more athletic than he had in years. How the hell does a player get more athletic in their 17th season?! :biggums:
Now he's gone back to Germany for more "treatments" After averaging 13 ppg last season he realized he's gonna need more juice than ever. :oldlol:

[russwest0]

That's a BIG assumption. Some guys just have so much growth hormone in their system NATURALLY.

Alright, so go ahead and throw out the names of other NBA players who have gotten surgery to stop excessive jaw growth.

I'll wait :oldlol:

[Fudge]

Because he likes taking the easy way out. The shortcut. Shortcuts in basketball. Shortcuts in life. It's not bad or anything, I just can't take people like this seriously. Dude is a bonafied loser to a person like I.

Broom broom

[Im Still Ballin]

Alright, so go ahead and throw out the names of other NBA players who have gotten surgery to stop excessive jaw growth.

I'll wait :oldlol:
Look at this lady. She has had this condition. Some people just luck out genetically. Lebron happen to have lucked out as well. I'm sure his extreme growth hormone levels played a part though.
http://parotidmd.s3.amazonaws.com/gallery/parotid-tumor-removal-with-babak-larian-md-facs-1.jpg

[JT123]

Because he likes taking the easy way out. The shortcut. Shortcuts in basketball. Shortcuts in life. It's not bad or anything, I just can't take people like this seriously. Dude is a bonafied loser to a person like I.

Broom broom
Just out of curiousity, what do you do for a living?
What you just described about Lebron is basically human nature. Everyone takes the path in life that will give them the best results with the least amount of obstacles possible. That includes Jordan. If he was really as competitive as his fan boys claim he would have attempted to get rid of Pippen, Grant, and Rodman to make winning as challenging as possible.

[Warfan]

Lets be real though, dwade is on that quagmire shit

http://i43.tinypic.com/24g7ns3.jpg

[Fudge]

Just out of curiousity, what do you do for a living?
What you just described about Lebron is basically human nature. Everyone takes the path in life that will give them the best results with the least amount of obstacles possible. That includes Jordan. If he was really as competitive as his fan boys claim he would have attempted to get rid of Pippen, Grant, and Rodman to make winning as challenging as possible.
I'm an entrepreneur. Nightclub promoter, freelance Graphic Designer, and I slang weed on the side. I make a ton of cash. I worked my ass off to get to where I am. Probably one of the most successful people in my city.

[SpecialQue]

Just out of curiousity, what do you do for a living?
What you just described about Lebron is basically human nature. Everyone takes the path in life that will give them the best results with the least amount of obstacles possible. That includes Jordan. If he was really as competitive as his fan boys claim he would have attempted to get rid of Pippen, Grant, and Rodman to make winning as challenging as possible.

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/504244/resized_white-knight-meme-generator-suddenly-a-wild-white-knight-appears-05e041.jpg

[SpecialQue]

Look at this lady. She has had this condition. Some people just luck out genetically. Lebron happen to have lucked out as well. I'm sure his extreme growth hormone levels played a part though.
http://parotidmd.s3.amazonaws.com/gallery/parotid-tumor-removal-with-babak-larian-md-facs-1.jpg

What NBA team does she play for?

[ProfessorMurder]

What NBA team does she play for?

Isn't that Korver? Or is it Fournier?

[Fudge]

Isn't that Korver? Or is it Fournier?
Looks like Tyler Hansbrough, actually.

[Im Still Ballin]

My team ;)

[poido123]

That's a BIG assumption. Some guys just have so much growth hormone in their system NATURALLY. Heck. We're talking about a giant of a man, let alone a all-time genetically jacked one at that. The force is strong in this one. Having extreme natural levels can disrupt homeostasis. Sometimes things like this happen. Its nature bro.

Don't assume a black man stabbed you because there is a stigma attached to them as being "aggressive". Point being, this doesn't prove anything.



But you're assuming that the jaw surgery was not attributed to the side effects of PED's.

You are assuming that all the tell tale signs of PED use is all completely explanatory.

Isn't it funny how Lebron suddenly sheds all this weight, right in line with the incoming testing for PED's this year...

Coincidence? Maybe. But how much do you just pass off as coincidence before you have a hard look at it?

There's no way the NBA would help expose Lebron, it's not a good business decision.

[Im Still Ballin]

But you're assuming that the jaw surgery was not attributed to the side effects of PED's.

You are assuming that all the tell tale signs of PED use is all completely explanatory.

Isn't it funny how Lebron suddenly sheds all this weight, right in line with the incoming testing for PED's this year...

Coincidence? Maybe. But how much do you just pass off as coincidence before you have a hard look at it?

There's no way the NBA would help expose Lebron, it's not a good business decision.
Blah blah blah.

All conjecture.

[dreamwarrior]

I think he uses PEDs because I think most everyone (including Kobe) uses.


n a survey of PED use in various sports in the May 16 issue of ESPN: The Magazine, Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose was asked to rank its prevalance on a scale of 1-10, with one signifying "What are PEDs?" and 10 meaning "Everybody's juicing!"

Rose's response: "Seven. It's huge and I think we need a level playing field, where nobody has that advantage over the next person."

And now he's saying he never said that. And now we know there's those types of players who say one thing to the media and then turn around and say they didn't say it (they're called "Nigerian scammers" [politically correct term]) only it was probably the NBA who forced Rose to recant his interview response.

Barry Bonds had never failed an MLB administered PED test. He only tested positive through his own secret lab, the results confiscated by the gov years after.

There's very few clean athletes these days. They're usually in the middle tier. All the guys at the top? They're middle tier guys who are "on". The guys at the bottom? D-leaguers who are "on".

[SpanishACB]

the biggest assumption is thinking he's ever been properly tested.

him or any other NBA player, mind.

[Budadiiii]

http://www.viralread.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/lebron_instagram.png

You tell me.

[Im Still Ballin]

http://www.viralread.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/lebron_instagram.png

You tell me.
All natural son.

[Budadiiii]

All natural son.
You mean it's that small naturally?

Yikes.

[Im Still Ballin]

You mean it's that small naturally?

Yikes.
Small? Bro. You don't know the first thing about size. Listen to me. I'm an expert. He's wearing restrictive compression tights + He is working out therefore bloodflow is going to his muscles primarily. Get a clue son.

[Budadiiii]

Small? Bro. You don't know the first thing about size. Listen to me. I'm an expert. He's wearing restrictive compression tights + He is working out therefore bloodflow is going to his muscles primarily. Get a clue son.
He obviously doesn't jelq.

"Do you even jelq, bro?"

[Im Still Ballin]

He obviously doesn't jelq.

"Do you even jelq, bro?"
He probably has good phallus genetics naturally. His mom got knocked up by a player from the hood.

BRB just imagining his jelq potential. WOW.

[ThePhantomCreep]

We know Bird never juiced. Still the GOAT SF.

[SpecialQue]

Small? Bro. You don't know the first thing about size. Listen to me. I'm an expert. He's wearing restrictive compression tights + He is working out therefore bloodflow is going to his muscles primarily. Get a clue son.

:biggums:

[Im Still Ballin]

:biggums:
Problem?

[SpecialQue]

Problem?

Oh, none at all. Continue with your research, size expert.

[Im Still Ballin]

Oh, none at all. Continue with your research, size expert.
I will. You seem very insecure about the talk of the male form, let alone the phallus. Are you trying to tell us something? Is that Richard Jefferson avatar a hint? Tell us.

[Dray n Klay]

Good thread