Isis beheads another hostage

[rezznor]

this time he's British, David Haines.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/09/13/isis-beheads-british-hostage.html



ISIS has published another video allegedly showing the beheading of British hostage David Haines, 44, just hours after his family pleaded for his life. Stills from the video as well as links to it online began appearing on Twitter accounts associated with ISIS early Saturday evening. "Jihadi John," the masked killer who is believed to have also killed American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff in August, appears to be the murderer on video. Again, he called for an end to attacks against ISIS in Syria and Iraq by the United States and its allies, namely the United Kingdom. And as in other videos, he showed the likely next victim, identified as Alan Henning. The jihadist specifically warned British Prime Minister David Cameron to stop supporting the effort against ISIS. Cameron is expected to seek Parliamentary approval to join the United States in air strikes against ISIS positions in Iraq. Haines was a humanitarian aid worker who had worked in the Balkans, Africa and the Middle East since 1999. He was taken hostage in March last year, but his identity was kept secret for 19 months to allow time for the family to work for his release. Haines has two daughters, ages four and 17, and lived in Croatia after marrying his second wife, Dragana Haines.

[Nick Young]

:mad:

[Warfan]

Are all of these vids legit? I only saw the first one so idk they might be, but iirc they never actually showed the beheading...

Not trying to be a d1ck since someone might've just lost their father/husband...

[ace23]

Are all of these vids legit? I only saw the first one so idk they might be, but iirc they never actually showed the beheading...

Not trying to be a d1ck since someone might've just lost their father/husband...
I don't think any are real.

[NumberSix]

Are all of these vids legit? I only saw the first one so idk they might be, but iirc they never actually showed the beheading...

Not trying to be a d1ck since someone might've just lost their father/husband...
These people have posted videos of wheelbarrows full of chopped off heads, public crucifixions, fences with heads on the posts....

They don't strike me as the type that would go out of their way to fake a few beheadings.

[Rodmantheman]

These people have posted videos of wheelbarrows full of chopped off heads, public crucifixions, fences with heads on the posts....

They don't strike me as the type that would go out of their way to fake a few beheadings.

Very sloppy video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0wakoYkFFc#t=29

[rezznor]

Are all of these vids legit? I only saw the first one so idk they might be, but iirc they never actually showed the beheading...

Not trying to be a d1ck since someone might've just lost their father/husband...
so lets just walk through this...if they are fake..who faked them?

the CIA? so where are the real hostages? are they made up people? actors? are they getting plastic surgery and going in hiding for the rest of their lives? did they really get killed but the cia did it? if Isis didn't do it, how come they have been silent? they are always on social media, pretty sure they would know what's going on.

so everyone who thinks it's fake believe it's just a pretext to go to war right? so let me get this straight, we are making up excuses to go to war against a group who is already battling Assad...a leader the US is already trying to topple...does that make any sense? obama is getting dragged into this kicking and screaming, he wanted to be the president to get us OUT of the iraq, not go back in. it makes him look bad to now be indirectly helping assad and re-engaging in iraq. going to war against isis is not a good thing for obama, but now he has to, he has no choice. so again...why is this fake? who benefits?

[robert de niro]

people still thinking they are fake? :facepalm

[NumberSix]

so lets just walk through this...if they are fake..who faked them?

the CIA? so where are the real hostages? are they made up people? actors? are they getting plastic surgery and going in hiding for the rest of their lives? did they really get killed but the cia did it? if Isis didn't do it, how come they have been silent? they are always on social media, pretty sure they would know what's going on.

so everyone who thinks it's fake believe it's just a pretext to go to war right? so let me get this straight, we are making up excuses to go to war against a group who is already battling Assad...a leader the US is already trying to topple...does that make any sense? obama is getting dragged into this kicking and screaming, he wanted to be the president to get us OUT of the iraq, not go back in. it makes him look bad to now be indirectly helping assad and re-engaging in iraq. going to war against isis is not a good thing for obama, but now he has to, he has no choice. so again...why is this fake? who benefits?
Because...... uhhhh...... OIL!!! Yeah, that's it.

[JohnFreeman]

I don't believe the videos

[poido123]

this time he's British, David Haines.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/09/13/isis-beheads-british-hostage.html


Another head rolls, this has to stop soon...I hope.

[Nanners]

what kind of sick bastard would chop off another persons head for no reason? The saudis, for one. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executes-19-during-half-of-august-in-disturbing-surge-of-beheadings-9686063.html)


Mohammed bin Bakr al-Alawi was beheaded on 5 August for allegedly practicing black magic sorcery, the Saudi Gazette reports, while according to Amnesty, a mentally ill man, Hajras al-Qurey, has been sentenced to death for drug trafficking “after an unfair trial” and will be killed on 25 August.

these people are our among our closest allies in that region, and they also happen to be one of the primary backers of ISIS...

[poido123]

what kind of sick bastard would chop off another persons head for no reason? The saudis, for one. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executes-19-during-half-of-august-in-disturbing-surge-of-beheadings-9686063.html)



these people are our among our closest allies in that region, and they also happen to be one of the primary backers of ISIS...


I'd say, tactically an ally.

Apart from business interests, I don't see America as a "close" ally of Saudi Arabia.

They should look at pulling their ties with Saudi if they are in fact funding ISIS. Very strange relationship indeed.

[KingBeasley08]

Saudi Arabia's government are two faced as fck but we get a shit ton of oil from them so it's one of those things we have to look the other way for

[poido123]

Saudi Arabia's government are two faced as fck but we get a shit ton of oil from them so it's one of those things we have to look the other way for


This is pretty much it.

Hey I was curious, what's with the KingBeasley username and a Wizards fan?

[ace23]

Hey I was curious, what's with the KingBeasley username and a Wizards fan?
Beasley is from the DC area. Just a guess.

[poido123]

Beasley is from the DC area. Just a guess.


Makes sense. Thanks dude.

[KingBeasley08]

This is pretty much it.

Hey I was curious, what's with the KingBeasley username and a Wizards fan?
I was 15 when I joined in 2010 and I loved Beasley back then (he's from my area) :oldlol:

[32jazz]

These people have posted videos of wheelbarrows full of chopped off heads, public crucifixions, fences with heads on the posts....

They don't strike me as the type that would go out of their way to fake a few beheadings.


True. Saudi Arabia & other Middle Eastern 'allies' against ISIS behead citizens weekly(publicly).

These people are Americans /British(White) which is the most significant difference-

[poido123]

I was 15 when I joined in 2010 and I loved Beasley back then (he's from my area) :oldlol:


I don't think I could have predicted where he would be now...

I think the weed killed his potential. Not saying all weed users are the same, but I think he smoked it too much :confusedshrug:

[bagelred]

So once again...for 3rd time...ISIS didn't actually show the beheading. I suppose the most evil terrorist organization doesn't want to terrorize us.....well thank god for that...that's so nice of them.

Gee, where are all these scary terrorists? Aren't there hundreds or thousands of them? I only see one guy with a black outfit on....not so scary.

And doesn't the "beheader" have a british accent? :oldlol:


Don't worry folks, it will only take trillions more of your dollars to protect from these evil doers in black outfits that you never heard of until a couple of months ago.

It's also nice that the beheading videos go straight to the news stations so easily. They must have a great PR firm....

Let's...uh....bomb them...or something....give us trillions doe.....so we can fight these people who...you know...are somewhere doing evil stuff. Next time, they might behead YOU....wait aren't our borders unsecured? lol....there should be hundreds of these ISIS guys running around here....oh well...guess dey busy....

coughcoughCIAcoughcoughMI6coughcough......

[Patrick Chewing]

So once again...for 3rd time...ISIS didn't actually show the beheading. I suppose the most evil terrorist organization doesn't want to terrorize us.....well thank god for that...that's so nice of them.

Gee, where are all these scary terrorists? Aren't there hundreds or thousands of them? I only see one guy with a black outfit on....not so scary.

And doesn't the "beheader" have a british accent? :oldlol:


Don't worry folks, it will only take trillions more of your dollars to protect from these evil doers in black outfits that you never heard of until a couple of months ago.

It's also nice that the beheading videos go straight to the news stations so easily. They must have a great PR firm....

Let's...uh....bomb them...or something....give us trillions doe.....so we can fight these people who...you know...are somewhere doing evil stuff. Next time, they might behead YOU....wait aren't our borders unsecured? lol....there should be hundreds of these ISIS guys running around here....oh well...guess dey busy....

coughcoughCIAcoughcoughMI6coughcough......

:facepalm

You sound crazy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=699_1400360595

Watch that video if you think ISIS doesn't really exist and is a fabrication of the US and British governments.

[bluesteel2010]

Pretty sure part of the reason they aren't showing the beheadings themselves is so the videos can be shown more in the media, smart PR in ISIS. By keeping the videos PG more news shows can air the full video and it can be shown in more places.

[kNIOKAS]

:facepalm

You sound crazy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=699_1400360595

Watch that video if you think ISIS doesn't really exist and is a fabrication of the US and British governments.
I don't know if that's what Bagel is saying. To me it looks like West is intendedly or unintendly playing ISIS card to terrify their own populations and gather public support for the interventions they want, while the people suffering are only those LIVING in the Middle East.

[Random_Guy]

just curious but whats the point of these beheading videos? for superpower countries to get pissed off and bomb the **** out of them?
i mean it just strikes me as odd, same as pearl harbour, why take on the world at once?

[brandonislegend]

:facepalm

You sound crazy.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=699_1400360595

Watch that video if you think ISIS doesn't really exist and is a fabrication of the US and British governments.

Holy ****.

[eriX]

Pretty sure part of the reason they aren't showing the beheadings themselves is so the videos can be shown more in the media, smart PR in ISIS. By keeping the videos PG more news shows can air the full video and it can be shown in more places.

or the media will just cut out the part where you see the beheading like the first time around...

until there is actual evidence of the beheading this video is weak and potentially fake.

[LJJ]

Another guy kidnapped from FSA territory and sold to IS.


B.b.b.but....they told me the FSA was a secular, moderate force who fought against Assad and against IS too?

[Nick Young]

just curious but whats the point of these beheading videos? for superpower countries to get pissed off and bomb the **** out of them?
i mean it just strikes me as odd, same as pearl harbour, why take on the world at once?
Because they are idealist religious psychos and think they are doing god's work.

They also believe if they martyr themselves and get blown to bits by USA they will inspire a new generation of noble jihadis, as well as be rewarded in heaven with 72 immortal virgins.

[NumberSix]

just curious but whats the point of these beheading videos? for superpower countries to get pissed off and bomb the **** out of them?
i mean it just strikes me as odd, same as pearl harbour, why take on the world at once?
They stupidly believe that if they bait the superpowers into bombing them, all 1 billion Muslims will join ISIS.

[kNIOKAS]

just curious but whats the point of these beheading videos? for superpower countries to get pissed off and bomb the **** out of them?
i mean it just strikes me as odd, same as pearl harbour, why take on the world at once?
You're on the right path.

[Nick Young]

Why aren't prominent Muslim leaders in Western countries speaking out against ISIS? Why are they allowing these communities to fester and grow on their doorstep and not doing anything about it?

[Dresta]

True. Saudi Arabia & other Middle Eastern 'allies' against ISIS behead citizens weekly(publicly).

These people are Americans /British(White) which is the most significant difference-
There is an obvious difference between the two, in that we accept the legal judgements of established nation states with their own legal systems, generally. There is a difference between an official Saudi state execution (which is quick and carried out in a single stroke) and a group of religious fanatics and out-of-control lunatics abducting people from other countries and slowing sawing their heads off with blunted knives. Why not bring up our 'ally' Singapore while you're at it? They have a barbaric legal and justice system too, yet that doesn't stop Westerners travelling there all the time.

It's not like i approve of either, but stop trying to equalise things so blatantly different.

[senelcoolidge]

Why aren't prominent Muslim leaders in Western countries speaking out against ISIS? Why are they allowing these communities to fester and grow on their doorstep and not doing anything about it?

Because that would be seen as being anti-Muslim and that is not tolerated. That's basically death. They don't want to be targeted. It's either that or they agree with this movement to some extent.

[pinhead]

Another innocent British life lost which stems from USA's war mongering antics.

[Nick Young]

Because that would be seen as being anti-Muslim and that is not tolerated. That's basically death. They don't want to be targeted. It's either that or they agree with this movement to some extent.
What a cowardly way to live.

[pinhead]

What a cowardly way to live.

Says the guy that mouths off behind his laptop for 15,000 posts.

[dude77]

execution #4 and counting .. alan henning, british aid worker .. poor alan .. decided to head on over there solely out of the kindess of his heart to help people, nothing more nothing less and gets his head chopped off ..

next up .. another american .. this one is an aid worker also, doctor I think ..

the video is on bg ..

at this point if I was in charge of things, I'd order all americans out of there immediately or strongly encourage them to gtfo at least .. there's no point in being over there right now .. with these bombing campaigns they're going to continue seeking out americans and westerners for abduction(even more than they already do) so if you're over there you're in grave danger .. not worth it at this point

[9erempiree]

execution #4 and counting .. alan henning, british aid worker .. poor alan .. decided to head on over there solely out of the kindess of his heart to help people, nothing more nothing less and gets his head chopped off ..

next up .. another american .. this one is an aid worker also, doctor I think ..

the video is on bg ..

at this point if I was in charge of things, I'd order all americans out of there immediately or strongly encourage them to gtfo at least .. there's no point in being over there right now .. with these bombing campaigns they're going to continue seeking out americans and westerners for abduction(even more than they already do) so if you're over there you're in grave danger .. not worth it at this point

Where are the prominent Muslim leaders speaking out on this?

Usually when your own peeps doing something bad, you speak out. I don't see any outrage from them.

Just sickening.

[dude77]

Where are the prominent Muslim leaders speaking out on this?

Usually when your own peeps doing something bad, you speak out. I don't see any outrage from them.

Just sickening.


yeah I've asked the same .. so much outrage over that stupid youtube video to the point that it got our president to apologize .. but when comes to this, crickets .. what's up ? ..

I've heard some say things but not merely enough .. you'd think they'd be more vocal over idiots from their religion executing innocents on camera ..

I don't know .. correct me if I'm wrong and people are speaking out .. maybe they are and it's being blacked out by the western media ?

[Nick Young]

Turkey about to go to aid ISIS by fighting the kurds. Check out the exact wording on Turkey's latest parliament military bill and their intentions are very very clear.

[sweggeh]

Of course they are speaking out and those who say they aren't are plain liars. Who do they think ISIS is killing exactly? Just these 5 westerners?

ISIS has murdered, kidnapped, raped and abused thousands of Muslims in Syria and Iraq and their are many people in Muslim communities literally BEGGING for air strikes on them. ISIS is a cancer to the whole world bro.

A surefire way to know someone is either biased, a liar or retarded is to see if they say Muslims arent speaking out about ISIS.

[9erempiree]

I get Al Jazeera here and they are not reporting any outrage from the public. I don't usually watch it but I do as of late to see what the "peaceful" ones are saying.

When I say they don't speak up on it, I am talking about well known leaders. Not some bum ass on Youtube because there are plenty of nobodys speaking on it there.

[sweggeh]

I get Al Jazeera here and they are not reporting any outrage from the public. I don't usually watch it but I do as of late to see what the "peaceful" ones are saying.

When I say they don't speak up on it, I am talking about well known leaders. Not some bum ass on Youtube because there are plenty of nobodys speaking on it there.

Um...well known leaders are talking about this. But your not Muslim so you wont know about them. You just watch Fox News I bet.

I am not Muslim but I have many Muslim friends and I can say from experience that 99% of Muslims are disgusted by ISIS. Even if you want to stick to your imagined Muslims vs the West story line which has no basis and is frankly as stereotypical as you can get, Muslims still hate ISIS since they are killing their own people.

There is no Muslims vs The West, it is Muslims vs Terrorists. When a terrorist blows up a car on the streets of Pakistan how many non Muslims is he killing? But, but, but, its all about America, the west, the Jews, blah blah blah. You have government officials and even celebrities in places in Africa and the Middle East getting assassinated by terrorists almost weekly yet people will still have you believe that Muslims support terrorist organisations.

Seriously 9er I thought you were one of the smarter guys on here who thought for himself but it looks like I was wrong :facepalm

[nathanjizzle]

I was 15 when I joined in 2010 and I loved Beasley back then (he's from my area) :oldlol:

beasleys a joke. he got introduced at the united center and he came out high as a kite. what an idiot. speaks volumes about you if you idolize a loser like that.

[Dresta]

what kind of sick bastard would chop off another persons head for no reason? The saudis, for one. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executes-19-during-half-of-august-in-disturbing-surge-of-beheadings-9686063.html)



these people are our among our closest allies in that region, and they also happen to be one of the primary backers of ISIS...
Always plugging dem irrelevant agendas. That is a completely separate issue.

Why always the need to equate things so obviously different? There are barbaric laws in lots of countries still - when maniacs start abducting and executing citizens from our countries it is clearly not the same ****ing thing.

The equivalent would be the British government abducting and publicly executing people who work at A&E.