Melo, CP3, Griffin aren't top 5. Never met/exceeded expectations this year.

[k0kakw0rld]

That is my number one argument.

My top 5

1. Bron - Untouchable
2. Kd - untouchable
3. Love - must be high on coke if 26/12/4 is not top 5

Why Love and not Melo or CP3 or Griffin?

Love is better than Griffin at scoring, rebounding, offensively. Now defensively both proven to be lower than average defenders. Griffin's game is ugly
. He's just a bully but once you play physical with him, he turns to a bitch. Love never made the playoffs but the Clippers and Blake weren't shit until Chris Paul arrived. Blake Griffin can't and will never lead a team to anything as the best player. Trade Love and Griffin wolves are in the same situation or even worse. Clippers will improve, Love can do so much for this team. Stretch the floor with his 3. He has a reliable post and mid range.

Cp3 lost that superstar status for me last year. He's not the best pg no more, Curry passed him already. If not this year, next year going to be the year for Curry. Clippers had a top 5 roster last season and supposedly a top 5 coach but failed to reach the WCF and that was what expectations were for the Clippers. This guy is supposed to be playing alongside with another top 5 player but again failed.

For the people who wants to put Melo in the top 5 and not Love, please lemme understand your logic. :confusedshrug: Empty stats they say.

So Melo averaged 27.4 ppg 8.1 rpg 3.1 apg but his team (The knicks failed to make the playoffs in the east, and also weakest conference, according to many).
Love averaged 26.1 ppg 12.5 rpg 4.4 apg which is better than Melo's stat line.

4. Curry - 24.0 ppg 8.5 apg 4.1 rpg 1.6 spg (best stat line for a pg. He has a better than average team but their young core is the future of the league (Curry, Thompson, Green, Barnes, Crawford) expectations were high last season but they went against a superior Clipper team. Series went to 7 games, so can't complain. Next season, with Klay emerging as a star, they could be dangerous if healthy.

5. AD - What more can I say? The best center in our game today.

Lastly, Westbrook is not top 5 either. Why? If Durant misses a full year, this man will not be able to lead them to anything. Why? It's just not him. He plays hero ball and he's a poor leader. Unless he changes his ways and polish his game, he will never lead anybody to nothing.

[Lebronxrings]

love isn't top 5. Most people who claim he is, are either love stans or people trying to troll lebron by acting like he has a stacked team.
My top 5 goes like this:
1. Lebron
2. Westbrook
3. Griffin
4. Davis
5. Durant/ibaka/cp3

In my list, i take note of the overalls of every player including: leadership, talent, playoff production, and in davis' case tremendous upside. My list is foolproof and i truly believe this is how todays nba is evaluated.

[DirkNowitzki41]

OP is legit the most retarded kid on this site

[insidehoops]

Reminder: Basketball is both offense and defense

Always remember this when rating players

[k0kakw0rld]

OP is legit the most retarded kid on this site
I'm retarded but Monta has it all. :roll: Klay Thompson >>>>> Monta

Okay let's talk about Leadership. CP3 couldn't control his own locker. Last year I believe Griffin and Jordan said they were tired of him.

Oh and can't be superstar if you flop. The only star in the league who has a pass for flopping is LeBron. It's his league.

[Milbuck]

Reminder: Basketball is both offense and defense

Always remember this when rating players
I agree. Where do you rank James Harden in the NBA right now?

[Lebronxrings]

Reminder: Basketball is both offense and defense

Always remember this when rating players
yea great point. What do you think about my top 5 guys. I counted both defense and offense in them.

[k0kakw0rld]

Reminder: Basketball is both offense and defense

Always remember this when rating players
Melo don't play defense, next.
Griffin either I don't care Love, Aldridge don't have the luxury to play with a DPOY who can cancel their defensive mistakes and an assist leader who allows him to score the easiest baskets.

Curry's defense is improving. At least when he tries its noticeable, unlike Harden.
He will keep on improving and Kay's work ethic will motivate him. Westbrook is the superior athlete which means better defender of course. PUT WESTBROOK's BBALL BRAIN IN A STEPHEN CURRY BODY and tell me if that player is top 5. Put Curry's BBALL IQ and PUT IT IN WESTBROOK BODY that player is top 5.

[Hey Yo]

Reminder: Basketball is both offense and defense

Always remember this when rating players
The above is why Magic Johnson is severely overrated.

[BuffaloBill]

love isn't top 5. Most people who claim he is, are either love stans or people trying to troll lebron by acting like he has a stacked team.
My top 5 goes like this:
1. Lebron
2. Westbrook
3. Griffin
4. Davis
5. Durant/ibaka/cp3

In my list, i take note of the overalls of every player including: leadership, talent, playoff production, and in davis' case tremendous upside. My list is foolproof and i truly believe this is how todays nba is evaluated.



why doesn't your user title just say "free my alts"



?

[Legends66NBA7]

Love wasn't Top 3 by these expectations.

[stalkerforlife]

love isn't top 5. Most people who claim he is, are either love stans or people trying to troll lebron by acting like he has a stacked team.
My top 5 goes like this:
1. Lebron
2. Westbrook
3. Griffin
4. Davis
5. Durant/ibaka/cp3

In my list, i take note of the overalls of every player including: leadership, talent, playoff production, and in davis' case tremendous upside. My list is foolproof and i truly believe this is how todays nba is evaluated.

:roll:

[poido123]

why doesn't your user title just say "free my alts"



?


He still thinks he's undetectable.

Shhhh

:lol

[poido123]

I agree. Where do you rank James Harden in the NBA right now?


Below Wade. At least Wade can play defense, even on one leg :confusedshrug:

[Mr Exlax]

It's comical that I haven't seen Dwight's name pop up anywhere. What are you guys smoking? AD can't be above Dwight. He couldn't stop him and struggled to score against him when they get matched up. He's more skilled overall sure, but he's not better in their matchups.

[k0kakw0rld]

Love wasn't Top 3 by these expectations.
Wolves weren't going nowhere. Whether on paper or not, there was more than 8 teams better than them in the West only. Kevin Love was injured last season and then comes back and gives you guys 26 12 4 top 3 PER and Stat Line this year. Somehow he is not top 5 lol. He does not play defense but Harden, Melo, and even Durant are considered top 5 players in this league. (Which is bullshit, except Durant) He now plays alongside a winner, he will finally reach the playoffs and showcase his talent to the world. Anybody who takes anybody but Love as the best PF in the game is clueless.

[k0kakw0rld]

It's comical that I haven't seen Dwight's name pop up anywhere. What are you guys smoking? AD can't be above Dwight. He couldn't stop him and struggled to score against him when they get matched up. He's more skilled overall sure, but he's not better in their matchups.
This. D12 gets no Love. But today, AD >>> Dwight matchups or nah!

Love gets lots of hate tho.

[Young X]

So Blake, Paul, Westbrook who all at made it to the 2nd round and CF are not top 5 because they never "met expectations" yet Curry whose team lost in the 1st round (to Blake & Paul's team) and Love (who didn't make the playoffs at all) are?

dat logic

[red1]

So Blake, Paul, Westbrook who all at made it to the 2nd round and CF are not top 5 because they never "met expectations" yet Curry whose team lost in the 1st round (to Blake & Paul's team) and Love (who didn't make the playoffs at all) are?

dat logic
well said. OP is an imbecile

[That_Admiral]

In all honesty Griffin met and exceeded expectations. He carried the team when CP3 was out.

[Graviton]

So Blake, Paul, Westbrook who all at made it to the 2nd round and CF are not top 5 because they never "met expectations" yet Curry whose team lost in the 1st round (to Blake & Paul's team) and Love (who didn't make the playoffs at all) are?

dat logic
Paul and Westbrook were Top 3 in PER in the PLAYOFFS but they aren't Top 5 because Love's regular season Top 3 PER and missing the playoffs is much more important. :lol

[k0kakw0rld]

So Blake, Paul, Westbrook who all at made it to the 2nd round and CF are not top 5 because they never "met expectations" yet Curry whose team lost in the 1st round (to Blake & Paul's team) and Love (who didn't make the playoffs at all) are?

dat logic
Okay kids! 3 teams: Clippers, Warriors, Wolves (same conference)
Back in october of last year, lots of people were talking about a possible Miami vs Clippers in the finals and possibly having the Clippers winning the trophy at the end of the season.

In the playoffs, the Warriors were the underdogs vs clippers and Steph won his 1v1 matchup vs Paul. Lemme add that Curry had the inferior supporting cast, compared to Paul's. Curry gives you 24/8/4 as a pg. That's iversonesque " I might get some heat for that."

Kevin Love won his regular season 1v1 matchup against Griffin. We talking about expectations here. No one, with actual basketball knowledge, would've given the Wolves a single chance to reach the playoffs. They came close due majorly to Love's amazing statistical season (26/12/4) that only KD LeBron were able to top.

It's not fair but to every rules there is an exception. The man simply couldn't do much more than what he did with the supporting cast they gave him. He played with arguably the worst starting pg in the league in Rubio for God sake. Wolves were never a playoff team. Just like Blake has another superstar next to him in Paul, Love could've used one. Just sayin'

[qrich]

So Blake, Paul, Westbrook who all at made it to the 2nd round and CF are not top 5 because they never "met expectations" yet Curry whose team lost in the 1st round (to Blake & Paul's team) and Love (who didn't make the playoffs at all) are?

dat logic

Love took two seasons to accumilate 32 wins.

I don't think Blake, Paul nor Melo won less then 60 over a 2 year span.

[Imtheman]

love isn't top 5. Most people who claim he is, are either love stans or people trying to troll lebron by acting like he has a stacked team.
My top 5 goes like this:
1. Lebron
2. Westbrook
3. Griffin
4. Davis
5. Durant/ibaka/cp3

In my list, i take note of the overalls of every player including: leadership, talent, playoff production, and in davis' case tremendous upside. My list is foolproof and i truly believe this is how todays nba is evaluated.

Davis and Ibaka?:biggums:

[Lebronxrings]

Davis and Ibaka?:biggums:
when ibaka was out, okc was getting blown out by the spurs. When he came back, they were blowing out the spurs. He clearly impacts the game like a top 5 player. Davis also has shown HUGE upside and has proven it this FIBA tournament.

[B-hoop]

OP is legit retarded, using Griffin's rookie year against him because he couldn't make the playoffs, when he won almost double the games Love won in his first year as a starter

[Real14]

This is getting ridiculous.

[Legends66NBA7]

Wolves weren't going nowhere.

Neither were the Phoenix Suns when most people had them pegged bottom 5 (or even perhaps the worst record) in the league last year, yet ended up with a better record than the Wolves.

The rest of your post doesn't deserve an honest response. I suggest for you to commit seppuku until you learn how to evaluate talent.

[CelticBalla32]

How did Carmelo "not meet expectations" last year? His team was awful, but Carmelo was absolutely outstanding individually. The Knicks were terrible last year, but that certainly wasn't Melo's fault.

LeBron
Durant
CP3
Melo

I think #5 is highly debatable between like 7 different players lol

[LoneyROY7]

Griffin > Love. And as Love takes a backseat to Bran and Kyrie, that gap will widen even further.