In order for Rose to stay healthy..

[Real14]

..he has to become an outside shooter. He can't rely on his athleticism forever, its going to take a huge toll on his legs and the outcome wont be positive. I like his slashing to the rim style and how fast he is but this decision will make him amazing and have a longer NBA career. I feel like Rose is not being too cautious and taking a big chance on himself that might end up for him being injured again and maybe injured to an early retirement.

You know I'm right about this Rose fans and bulls fans, I just don't want to see this star with great potential go to waste like other stars who had great potential but ended their star ability quick due to career ending injuries. Do you agree?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Oh my god, I agree with Real14

I think I need an ISH break

[MrC1991]

For a Knicks fan you made sense for once...smh. lmao no hate.

[Real14]

For a Knicks fan you made sense for once...smh. lmao no hate.
I understand.

[Real14]

Oh my god, I agree with Real14

I think I need an ISH break
Yea, I just have to be REAL.

[inclinerator]

why arent u talking funny anymore

[el gringos]

You are right in the way of what's needed for him to have a 12-15 year career. But I see it a little like the niners handling of kaepernick. They want to protect him and shape him into the type of player they can have for 10+ years. But at the expense of giving up on the greatest part of his game (running). So the niners may get 12 years out of him, but is that worth not winning Super Bowls. Run kap into the ground and he might only last a few years, but Super Bowls could have come along with it?


I guess all I'm saying is sure you are right that he will have to change his game up to last, but what good is lasting if you aren't the player you could have been? Rose isn't a max level nba player because he is a shooter, he's there because of his explosiveness. He needs to try to get back to that or else you just have a non elite 20 million dollar a year shooter

[Real14]

You are right in the way of what's needed for him to have a 12-15 year career. But I see it a little like the niners handling of kaepernick. They want to protect him and shape him into the type of player they can have for 10+ years. But at the expense of giving up on the greatest part of his game (running). So the niners may get 12 years out of him, but is that worth not winning Super Bowls. Run kap into the ground and he might only last a few years, but Super Bowls could have come along with it?


I guess all I'm saying is sure you are right that he will have to change his game up to last, but what good is lasting if you aren't the player you could have been? Rose isn't a max level nba player because he is a shooter, he's there because of his explosiveness. He needs to try to get back to that or else you just have a non elite 20 million dollar a year shooter

I understand what you are saying. I think he should mix it up, he should not give up on his explosiveness to the basket, but at least limit those moves while having outside shooting in his repertoire. He would be more dangerous to the competition that way, plus he's injury prone and he need to give his explosiveness to the rim a break sometimes.

[imdaman99]

It's this reason Kobe's lasted so long while Wade is broken down. Kobe worked on his outside game, Wade not as much.

Kobe will play until he's 40, Wade might be done by not even mid 30s. Which is a shame, because he was great.

Rose needs to show improvement in the outside game. Once the rust wears off, I am done making excuses for him.

[Real14]

It's this reason Kobe's lasted so long while Wade is broken down. Kobe worked on his outside game, Wade not as much.

Kobe will play until he's 40, Wade might be done by not even mid 30s. Which is a shame, because he was great.

Rose needs to show improvement in the outside game. Once the rust wears off, I am done making excuses for him.

Exactly. Wade should of been worked on his outside game years ago, he would be unstoppable if he did. Kobe is a great example for Rose to follow, and Iverson is a great example to follow as well. What's really sad about this is the fact that Rose is already more injury prone than Wade and Rose only had 4 full seasons thus far. Rose need to work on this ASAP or his all star prime is going to end quicker than penny and grant hill's.

[Go Getter]

I forgot how many posters in here act like they're experts with their rehashed cliches'.

:lol

[Cocaine80s]

It's this reason Kobe's lasted so long while Wade is broken down. Kobe worked on his outside game, Wade not as much.

Kobe will play until he's 40, Wade might be done by not even mid 30s. Which is a shame, because he was great.

Rose needs to show improvement in the outside game. Once the rust wears off, I am done making excuses for him.
No it's because Wade had his meniscus removed

[Go Getter]

Exactly. Wade should of been worked on his outside game years ago, he would be unstoppable if he did. Kobe is a great example for Rose to follow, and Iverson is a great example to follow as well. What's really sad about this is the fact that Rose is already more injury prone than Wade and Rose only had 4 full seasons thus far. Rose need to work on this ASAP or his all star prime is going to end quicker than penny and grant hill's.


You sound dumb. Even if Wade had worked on his game day in ad day out since he was a teen (as he probably has), he still won't be a natural shooter like Klay Thompson.

Wade is better at basketball than most people here are at anything they do. Nitpicking his game is stupid.

[Real14]

I forgot how many posters in here act like they're experts with their rehashed cliches'.

:lol
What are you talking about?

[Real14]

You sound dumb. Even if Wade had worked on his game day in ad day out since he was a teen (as he probably has), he still won't be a natural shooter like Klay Thompson.

Wade is better at basketball than most people here are at anything they do. Nitpicking his game is stupid.
I sound dumb but Wade not having an outside shot doesn't make him better and more hard to contained? You don't think Wade will be healthier if he develops an outside shot so that he dont rely so much on his speed and athleticism which will make him less injury prone ? Come on man be REAL.

[Go Getter]

I sound dumb but Wade not having an outside shot doesn't make him better and more hard to contained? You don't think Wade will be healthier if he develops an outside shot so that he dont rely so much on his speed and athleticism which will make him less injury prone ? Come on man be REAL.

I think Wade has maximized his talent. He is what he is. Not everyone has the natural ability to shoot like Curry or Klay. Even then, Wade has carved out a HOF career and has a higher FG% than Kobe or Curry will ever reach.

In a nutshell, you are being unreasonable.

He worked on his J and it's never going to be his biggest strength. B. Roy had a good J but didn't last in the league so your logic is faulty.

You didn't even make your HS basketball team and you are criticizing one of the best ever. Just sounds silly to me as a hooper.

[Real14]

I think Wade has maximized his talent. He is what he is. Not everyone has the natural ability to shoot like Curry or Klay. Even then, Wade has carved out a HOF career and has a higher FG% than Kobe or Curry will ever reach.

In a nutshell, you are being unreasonable.

He is who he is. You didn't even make your HS basketball team and you are criticizing one of the best ever. Just sounds silly to me as a hooper.

I understand your point but All I'm saying is for him to have an outside shot meaning to at least be a decent outside shooter. He don't have to be that good like Curry and Klay but at least be able to knock down them shots from time to time.

I admit that I never made the HS varsity team but that was my fault. I had talent and amazing potential but I didn't try my best. I didn't put that hard work and effort to be stronger, not being fit for the game, thinking about myself more than my teammates with not giving a damn about passing and defense. I admit it, but I know that having more skills in your repertoire takes you a long way.

[Go Getter]

I understand your point but All I'm saying is for him to have an outside shot meaning to at least be a decent outside shooter. He don't have to be that good like Curry and Klay but at least be able to knock down them shots from time to time.

I admit that I never made the HS varsity team but that was my fault. I had talent and amazing potential but I didn't try my best. I didn't put that hard work and effort to be stronger, not being fit for the game, thinking about myself more than my teammates with not giving a damn about passing and defense. I admit it, but I know that having more skills in your repertoire takes you a long way.


And if you tried your best you couldn't shoot threes as well as a top flight SG. Wade, despite being a subpar jumpshooter, is one of the best ever. He does work on his game... he just isn't built to be a great shooter.

[Mr Exlax]

Holy shit I agree with you on Rose and Wade! Glad you're getting it together.

[nathanjizzle]

i dont care, he can play his game and what happens happens.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You are right in the way of what's needed for him to have a 12-15 year career. But I see it a little like the niners handling of kaepernick. They want to protect him and shape him into the type of player they can have for 10+ years. But at the expense of giving up on the greatest part of his game (running). So the niners may get 12 years out of him, but is that worth not winning Super Bowls. Run kap into the ground and he might only last a few years, but Super Bowls could have come along with it?


I guess all I'm saying is sure you are right that he will have to change his game up to last, but what good is lasting if you aren't the player you could have been? Rose isn't a max level nba player because he is a shooter, he's there because of his explosiveness. He needs to try to get back to that or else you just have a non elite 20 million dollar a year shooter
Basically agree with this (although Kaepernick is a little different: he has arm talent, Rose doesn't have shooting talent).

If becoming a great shooter was just about working hard there would be nothing special about the great shooters because everyone would be one. Rose can't just decide to become Steph Curry. It takes a special talent for hand-eye coordination, aim and a few other things along with great work ethic to become a great shooter.

Rose's primary talent is his athletic ability. The reason he's in the NBA is that it's impossible for any one defender to stay in front of him. Think about his skill set. If he's not attacking the basket, what is he bringing to the table? Solid court vision? He'd be Eric Snow at best.

He's probably going to be like Steve Francis or Baron Davis: Great for as long as he has his athletic ability, and after that goes, sorry. Maybe stick around as a vet pg that can run an offense.

[NumberSix]

Rose's go-to "stay healthy" move is......


Don't play basketball.

[poido123]

Rose's go-to "stay healthy" move is......


Don't play basketball.


You don't like watching him play anyways, so it's a win win situation for you :pimp:

[SpecialQue]

OP once again shredding anuses with logic, making fools take dumps like dog food sliding slowly out of a can.

[poido123]

OP once again shredding anuses with logic, making fools take dumps like dog food sliding slowly out of a can.



:roll:

[Real14]

Holy shit I agree with you on Rose and Wade! Glad you're getting it together.
Hey man, speaking the truth always heals.

[Real14]

And if you tried your best you couldn't shoot threes as well as a top flight SG. Wade, despite being a subpar jumpshooter, is one of the best ever. He does work on his game... he just isn't built to be a great shooter.
He might seemed that way, but its possible if he worked hard at it. Anything is possible. I meant good shooter not great shooter by the way. I mean there's many decent shooters in the league that was formerly horrible shooters right?

[RRR3]

Real14 dropping knowledge :biggums:
Bizarro world

[poido123]

Real14 dropping knowledge :biggums:
Bizarro world


He's been posting well. He dropped the thug talk after having a D & P with the lads on here...

Good for him :applause:

[SpecialQue]

Real14 dropping knowledge :biggums:
Bizarro world

He's doing a slow unzipping, whipping it out, and smacking idiots across the face with some long, strong knowledge. Keepin' 'em in lockdown, got morons calling the warden, meanwhile he's moving from topic to topic, bending conversations over and blasting out a shot of facts.

[poido123]

He's doing a slow unzipping, whipping it out, and smacking idiots across the face with some long, strong knowledge. Keepin' 'em in lockdown, got morons calling the warden, meanwhile he's moving from topic to topic, bending conversations over and blasting out a shot of facts.


:oldlol:

[Real14]

He's doing a slow unzipping, whipping it out, and smacking idiots across the face with some long, strong knowledge. Keepin' 'em in lockdown, got morons calling the warden, meanwhile he's moving from topic to topic, bending conversations over and blasting out a shot of facts.

This guy:oldlol:

[ralph_i_el]

and while Rose is turning into a good jumpshooter, lets just have all the bad shooters get good! Apparently it's just that easy.

I'm surprised he didn't just think of this sooner! Just be a better shooter!

great advice, stay REAL everybody :applause:

[JohnFreeman]

Just needs to improve on his passing, Chicago can live with less points on his end.

[Real14]

Just needs to improve on his passing, Chicago can live with less points on his end.

He should improve on that too but his outside scoring will definitely help survive longer.

[JohnFreeman]

He should improve on that too but his outside scoring will definitely help survive longer.
Yaeh, but the talent depth is great on Chicago, McDermott on the wing will be invaluable

[poido123]

Just needs to improve on his passing, Chicago can live with less points on his end.



Uhh, he was passing alright in FIBA?

It's his finishing and shooting which is sorely lacking atm.

[Real14]

Yaeh, but the talent depth is great on Chicago, McDermott on the wing will be invaluable
True, its just that Derrick Rose is injury prone, and you cant take to many chances on him like that plus Bulls need Rose to be a bigger threat so bulls can be even better than what they are.

[Real14]

and while Rose is turning into a good jumpshooter, lets just have all the bad shooters get good! Apparently it's just that easy.

I'm surprised he didn't just think of this sooner! Just be a better shooter!

great advice, stay REAL everybody :applause:

He have to be a multiple threat offensively. That's what make good players great. Rose can't depend on his athleticism like that his whole career, its going to break him down like wade.