Predict The Best Centers For 2014-15:

[qrich]

Going to do one for each position, just want everyone to rank their top 7 centers, will tally them all up and we can see how ISH thinks the bigs will rank for the upcoming season!!

Do this based off how you think they will play during the 2014-15 campaign, and now how they did this past season.

My take can be found here (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_14109114411718&key=4f79a41c87cdf255c305fca463ba2d04&libId=5253f361-5d7b-4604-a3bb-276db496aeb7&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xtratime.org%2Fforum%2Fshowth read.php%3Ft%3D353978&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fmikesmind.sportsblog.com%2Fposts% 2F1080199%2Franking_the_top_7_centers.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xtratime.org%2Fforum%2Fforumd isplay.php%3Ff%3D132&title=NBA%202014%2F15%20Regular%20Season%20-%20Xtratime%20Community&txt=Ranking%20The%20Top%207%20Centers)

[TheMilkyBarKid]

If Saunders gives Dieng minutes he will be in the running for most improved.
Other than that:
D12, noah, cousins, healthy bogut, drummond.

I think I'm missing a few.

[ralph_i_el]

If Saunders gives Dieng minutes he will be in the running for most improved.
Other than that:
D12, noah, cousins, healthy bogut, drummond.

I think I'm missing a few.

all those+ Al Horford, Marcin Gotat, Nikola Vucavic and DJ

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Al jefferson and marc gasol too

[JohnFreeman]

How is Horford going to better then Cousins? Are you talking about wins or raw stats?

[qrich]

How is Horford going to better then Cousins? Are you talking about wins or raw stats?

I'm trying to go with a mixture of the two, and just think Horford will have more of an impact than Cousins, though, his stats won't be as good.

And though, this has been pretty much disproven, I'm still a little worried about Cousins possible immaturity.

[JohnFreeman]

Well Horford will have more team wins, but he is injury prone

[Fudge]

1. Dwight Howard
2. Al Horford
3. Al Jefferson
4. Joakim Noah
5. Andre Drummond
6. DeMarcus Cousins
7. Marc Gasol

[qrich]

Well Horford will have more team wins, but he is injury prone

That's what made ranking him so damn difficult too. It was just a coin flip, really.

[Paul George 24]

wt a weak era :facepalm

[JohnFreeman]

Drummond shouldn't be that high either.

[Smook A.]

1-5

1. Dwight Howard
I still think Dwight is the best center in the league. His offense might still not be perfect because his post game still isn't that great yet. BUT, it did look more improved during the 2013-14 season and postseason. Also, he may not be the same defensive player he used to be in Orlando, but he's still very good. Just not elite. Dwight is still one of the best rebounders. He can still give a team 18-20 ppg, 12 rpg, and 2 blocks a night.

2. Joakim Noah
Great defensive player, great rebounder, good passer (especially for a center), and can give you about 12-14 points a night. I think the reason why he's better than guys like DeMarcus, Jefferson, Gasol is because he has a warrior's heart.

3. DeMarcus Cousins
Very good offensive player and one of the most skilled scorers at his position. He's also a good rebounder. All he needs to do is mature more and lead his team into the playoffs.

4. Al Jefferson
Like DeMarcus, Big Al is also a very talented scorer and a good rebounder. He most definitely has the best post game in the league. I just have him at 4 because he's not a good defender... at all. Still a very good player overall, though.

5. Marc Gasol
Very good defensive player, and can score from the perimeter and post well. He rebounding is not the good for a center, but he still makes a big impact overall for the Grizzlies

6-10

6. Al Horford
When healthy, he's one of the best scorers for a big-man.

7. Andre Drummond
Rising star. In just his 2nd NBA season he averaged 13 ppg and 13 rpg.

8. DeAndre Jordan
Great rebounder and very good shot blocker

9. Brook Lopez
Good scorer, but that's really it. He can't rebound well at all (Only averaged 6 last season and 7 the season before)

10. Roy Hibbert
Elite on the defensive side but he has problems with rebounding and offense. We all know that.

[RRR3]

1. Dwight Howard
2. DeMarcus Cousins
3. Joakim Noah
4. Al Jefferson
5. Al Horford
6. Marc Gasol
7. Andre Drummond

[MP.Trey]

1. Howard
2. Cousins
3. Noah
4. Jefferson
5. Horford
6. Drummond
7. Gasol

EDIT: Wow very close to RRR3's :cheers:

[andremiller07]

Horford>>Jefferson he just does more things on the court for me.

[Jlamb47]

Howard
Noah
M Gasol
Cousins
Horford
Jefferson
Bogut
Lopez
Jordan
Drummond

[ralph_i_el]

People say there's no good bigs in the league. Gortat hasn't made most people's top-10 and he's a good all-around center. Shoots out to 15ft, has solid post moves, elite PnR roll man, great defender, good rebounder. And I'm fine if he's not in someone's top 10. There's a lot of quality bigs now :confusedshrug:

[MP.Trey]

People say there's no good bigs in the league. Gortat hasn't made most people's top-10 and he's a good all-around center. Shoots out to 15ft, has solid post moves, elite PnR roll man, great defender, good rebounder. And I'm fine if he's not in someone's top 10. There's a lot of quality bigs now :confusedshrug:
Agreed. It just creates the illusion that the quality of bigs/Centers has gone down because there is no more superstars at C that the offense runs through like Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, etc. Hopefully Embiid pans out and can be that superstar though.

[Lebron23]

Howard
Noah
M Gasol
Cousins
Horford
Jefferson
Bogut
Lopez
Jordan
Drummond


This is also my lists. I might rep you tomorrow.

[Sakkreth]

1. Cousins
2. Howard
3. Noah
4. Jefferson
5. Gasol
6. Horford
7. Valanciunas
8. Drummond
9. Brook Lopez
10. DeAndre Jordan
11. Roy Hibbert

[Jlamb47]

This is also my lists. I might rep you tomorrow.
:cheers:

[Jlamb47]

1. Cousins
2. Howard
3. Noah
4. Jefferson
5. Gasol
6. Horford
7. Valanciunas
8. Drummond
9. Brook Lopez
10. DeAndre Jordan
11. Roy Hibbert

Cousins is high for a player with okay defense.

[qrich]

Rankings up to this point:

1] Dwight Howard: 55 Pts (7)
2] Joakim Noah: 43 Points (0)
3] DeMarcus Cousins: 36 (1)
4] Al Jefferson: 26
5] Marc Gasol: 25
5] Al Horford: 25
7] Andre Drummond: 11
8] Andrew Bogut: 2
9] Jonas V: 1 (:rolleyes: )


I'ma just post up PF's tomorrow.

[Papaya Petee]

Jonas Hibbert Drummond Jordan over Gortat?:lol

[qrich]

Jonas Hibbert Drummond Jordan over Gortat?:lol

Easily.

[Milbuck]

http://aroundthehorns.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/sanders-thumbs.gif

[La Frescobaldi]

Approximate starting centers and a rough ranking of the first 10.... assuming they are all okay in the legs, etc.:

Best Centers going into the season:

1} Joakim Noah - Noah does things nobody else does, and he does the things everybody else does...... better than anyone else.
2} DeMarcus Cousins - very grudgingly indeed. The man is an utter dolt but he matured a lot last year so we'll see. But will he be a center, or a 4?
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3} Dwight Howard
4} Marc Gasol
3 & 4 are a debate to my view. Howard is broken mentally - fractured, cracked, whatever you wanna call it - and most likely will continue his colossal plunge as his (sole great attribute) athleticism continues to decline.
Meanwhile Marc either stays where he is or goes higher.
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5} Al Jefferson
6} Nikola Peković
7} Tiago Splitter

Jefferson has the more polished game in this toss-up, but Pekovic is clearly better at boxing, rebounding, reading plays and is a smarter player. Best rebounding center in the NBA after Howard, with a ferocious offense to go with it. Splitter is right there with those 2 guys.
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8} Nikola Vučević - likely to ascend into top 5 if last season is any indication. He won't ever rebound like Pekovic but he's something all right.

9} Andrew Bogut - legs keep him from going any higher.
10} Omar Asik

The Also Rans (in no particular order... ):

} Miles Plumlee - maybe the most interesting of the A-Rs and may move into the top 10, this fellow has severely high levels of IQ and triangulation skills.
} Chris Bosh - could easily go higher of course. We shall see.
} Anderson Varej

[andremiller07]

I agree with most of what you had to say La Frescobaldi other than Horford I think he's easily top 10 pushing top 5.

[La Frescobaldi]

I agree with most of what you had to say La Frescobaldi other than Horford I think he's easily top 10 pushing top 5.

I'll have to watch the dude closer.

Also :wtf: I forgot about the Polish Hammer!! :wtf:

[outbreak]

Vucevic will put up some impressive numbers this season, could surprise some people.

[NugzFan]

How is mozgov not number 1?

[tpols]

1. Dwight Howard
2. Al Horford
3. Al Jefferson
4. Joakim Noah
5. Andre Drummond
6. DeMarcus Cousins
7. Marc Gasol

Al jeff way too high, marc too low

[ralph_i_el]

[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]Approximate starting centers and a rough ranking of the first 10.... assuming they are all okay in the legs, etc.:

Best Centers going into the season:

1} Joakim Noah - Noah does things nobody else does, and he does the things everybody else does...... better than anyone else.
2} DeMarcus Cousins - very grudgingly indeed. The man is an utter dolt but he matured a lot last year so we'll see. But will he be a center, or a 4?
**********************
3} Dwight Howard
4} Marc Gasol
3 & 4 are a debate to my view. Howard is broken mentally - fractured, cracked, whatever you wanna call it - and most likely will continue his colossal plunge as his (sole great attribute) athleticism continues to decline.
Meanwhile Marc either stays where he is or goes higher.
******************

5} Al Jefferson
6} Nikola Peković
7} Tiago Splitter

Jefferson has the more polished game in this toss-up, but Pekovic is clearly better at boxing, rebounding, reading plays and is a smarter player. Best rebounding center in the NBA after Howard, with a ferocious offense to go with it. Splitter is right there with those 2 guys.
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8} Nikola Vučević - likely to ascend into top 5 if last season is any indication. He won't ever rebound like Pekovic but he's something all right.

9} Andrew Bogut - legs keep him from going any higher.
10} Omar Asik

The Also Rans (in no particular order... ):

} Miles Plumlee - maybe the most interesting of the A-Rs and may move into the top 10, this fellow has severely high levels of IQ and triangulation skills.
} Chris Bosh - could easily go higher of course. We shall see.
} Anderson Varej

[kurple]

Noah
Howard
Marc
Duncan
Jefferson
Horford
Cousins

[ballinhun8]

Going by regular season performance,

Noah
Howard
Gasol
Jefferson
Cousins
Drummond
Horford

[YouGotServed]

Howard
Gasol
Cousins
Noah
Asik

[La Frescobaldi]

Good post, outside of having Tiago Splitter in the top 10 and Gortat not being mentioned.

Yeah I had noticed earlier that I missed the dude from Ł

[qrich]

I'ma close this sometime tomorrow and start the PF's discussion.

[ralph_i_el]

[QUOTE=La Frescobaldi]Yeah I had noticed earlier that I missed the dude from Ł

[elementally morale]

Joakim Noah
Marc Gasol
Dwight Howard
Tim Duncan
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Cousins
Jefferson
Splitter
Bogut

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Doesn't matter.

[qrich]

Final Tally:

1] Dwight Howard: 77 (7)
2] Joakim Noah: 71 (4)
3] DeMarcus Cousins: 49
4] Marc Gasol: 45
5] Al Jefferson: 38
6] Al Horford: 28
7] Andre Drummond: 13

Rest receiving votes:
Tim Duncan: 8
Andrew Bogut: 2
Nikola Pekovic: 2
Tiago Splitter: 2
Jonas V: 1