Kobe Bryant is the best pound for pound player because...POTATO.

[kennethgriffin]

iverson dominated with speed/quickness. once that went away. he was trash




kobes dominated with

- small hands
- mangled fingers
- torn up knees
- guarded by guys taller, faster, stronger, younger and dominated them
- dominating with footwork and pumpfakes
- posting up guys way bigger
- guards point guards with more speed
- guards younger 2guards
- guards bigger forwards
- best seasons by anyone in their 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th year


has the skills to dominate at 5-10

has the post moves/footwork/hookshots/left hand to dominate at 7 feet



kobe is pound for pound the best ever.

[kennethgriffin]

even larry bird had an advantage... at 6-10 he was way taller than most small forwards. could shoot over them easly

kobes 6-5 getting defended by guys that are 6-8 and 6-9 on the perimeter that are sometimes faster than kobe

[zoom17]

http://i.gyazo.com/8720dd38fb443e8a00a01f2985c9d914.png

[Fudge]

Nop

[Collie]

http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2013/06/325074,xcitefun-forum-moderator.jpg

[Young X]

If he had Steve Nash's size and athleticism would he be as good as Nash?

[kennethgriffin]

http://i.gyazo.com/8720dd38fb443e8a00a01f2985c9d914.png


look at the bum left behind iverson in that pi


iverson was faster than anyone in the nba. thats why he was able to get around guys

kobe gets around people by studying footwork, first steps, pivot foots, defensive position, other players eyes, jab fakes, pump fakes

iverson just gets the ball and runs past a guy without a moments notice. thats not really a basketball genius at work.

which is why iversons career ended the minute he was past his prime

[Budadiiii]

He had a physical advantage over that girl in Colorado :banana:

[kennethgriffin]

kareem had height/length over everyone at his position
wilt had height/power/speed over everyone at his position
magic had height/strenth over everyone at his position
bird had height over everyone at his position
jordan had height,length,speed,quickness,jumping,hand size over everyone at his position
lebron had everything jordan had as an advantage.
shaq had everything lebron and jordan had as an advantage


kobe? no advantage. not since 2003... and even then a few guys were faster, jumped higher.

from 2004 on.. kobe was being defended by better physical specimens nightly

[JT123]

kareem had height/length over everyone at his position
wilt had height/power/speed over everyone at his position
magic had height/strenth over everyone at his position
bird had height over everyone at his position
jordan had height,length,speed,quickness,jumping,hand size over everyone at his position
lebron had everything jordan had as an advantage.
shaq had everything lebron and jordan had as an advantage


kobe? no advantage. not since 2003... and even then a few guys were faster, jumped higher.

from 2004 on.. kobe was being defended by better physical specimens nightly
Does your girlfriend get jealous of your love for Kobe? Serious question.

[Myth]

How is a daily Kobe thread by the OP not considered trolling?

[bizil]

Peak Kobe was a freak athlete! So in that sense, only T-Mac and Vince had the edge in that era for the All-Star-superstar calibers SG's. But he did have small hands and that's one key difference between him and MJ. I would say that Kobe along with MJ were THE ULTIMATE TECHNICIANS in terms of combining great athletic ability with great fundamentals all in one. As they age and lose some of the freakish athletic ability, they can lean on their fundamental skills. MJ at 39-40 years old was still among the best all around perimeter players in the world due to that.

[kennethgriffin]

How is a daily Kobe thread by the OP not considered trolling?


when have i ever made this thread before?

[Cocaine80s]

hes ****ing 6'6 with long arms you kunt


most sg's right now are around 6'4-6'5

[kennethgriffin]

Peak Kobe was a freak athlete! So in that sense, only T-Mac and Vince had the edge in that era for the All-Star-superstar calibers SG's. But he did have small hands and that's one key difference between him and MJ. I would say that Kobe along with MJ were THE ULTIMATE TECHNICIANS in terms of combining great athletic ability with great fundamentals all in one. As they age and lose some of the freakish athletic ability, they can lean on their fundamental skills. MJ at 39-40 years old was still among the best all around perimeter players in the world due to that.

peak kobe athletically was 2001-2003

after the knee surgeries.. from 2004 till 2010 kobe had average athleticism

in 2011 kobe was at an all time low athletically. still made 1st team all nba

in 2012 kobe looked allot better from his germany knee cartilage replacement surgery

only to have a near career ending injury in 2013 thats brought him down to about a 40-45 year olds athleticism...

if he makes any all nba team next year and is anywhere near what he was in even 2011.. he's by far the most effective player with the least amount of physical advantages...

[kennethgriffin]

hes ****ing 6'6 with long arms you kunt


most sg's right now are around 6'4-6'5

lol you're stupid

most point guards are 6-4 now. the new trend is scoring point guards.


and kobes been getting guarded by small forwards for the past 10 years dumby

from tmac to lebron to battier to teyshaun to durant to pierce to many more

and LOL@ arm length. kobe has an average wingspan

kobes wife measured him at 6-5 btw

[JohnFreeman]

Iverson

[kennethgriffin]

Iverson

quickest/fastest player in nba history? hello?

iversons last good year was age 32 in only his 12th season

once iverson wasnt the fastest guy on the planet.. POOF.... career O-V-E-R


kobe had his best years PAST his physical prime

[Myth]

when have i ever made this thread before?

I never said you did. But you obviously have a Kobe driven agenda that comes across as trolling. Just today you made 2 Kobe threads and a general Lakers thread (that includes Kobe). When is enough, enough for you?

[Warfan]

kobes wife measured him at 6-5 btw

And what did you measure him? 6.75"?

[kennethgriffin]

I never said you did. But you obviously have a Kobe driven agenda that comes across as trolling. Just today you made 2 Kobe threads and a general Lakers thread (that includes Kobe). When is enough, enough for you?

its impossible to have an opinion on anything without having a favorable agenda

nobody is completely 50/50 on anything.especially about their favorite sport/team/player

it could be about breast feeding. something i know nothing about nore care to even discuss. but if the subject came up. i'd want old uglys to keep that stuff at home. and young hotties to go public all they want

theres always gonna be a favorable agenda no matter what the subject is about.

if there wasnt a single agenda on ISH. there would never be a single discussion lasting more than 2-3 posts

the 1st post would be the question

the 2nd post would be "i dont care"

the 3rd post would be "InB4lock"


:confusedshrug:

[Cocaine80s]

lol you're stupid

most point guards are 6-4 now. the new trend is scoring point guards.


and kobes been getting guarded by small forwards for the past 10 years dumby

from tmac to lebron to battier to teyshaun to durant to pierce to many more

and LOL@ arm length. kobe has an average wingspan

kobes wife measured him at 6-5 btw
so?

Ive seen point guards get guarded by big guys too. If thats ur point then CP3 is better pound for pound than kobe.

btw source on that wingspan :oldlol:

[Asukal]

:kobe: :kobe: :kobe:

[Cocaine80s]

btw if we're going pound for pound Kevin Durant would be #1

Dude is like 6'11 200 lbs. If he was 260+ like a normal 7 footer he would be the greatest of all time

[kennethgriffin]

btw if we're going pound for pound Kevin Durant would be #1

Dude is like 6'11 200 lbs. If he was 250+ like a normal 7 footer he would be the greatest of all time
you're cray

durant is the longest fastest most athletic 7 footer in the history of basketball not named wilt chamberlain


LOL this goof

:roll:

[Cocaine80s]

you're cray

durant is the longest fastest most athletic 7 footer in the history of basketball not named wilt chamberlain


LOL this goof

:roll:
this is pound for pound not length for length

long arms, small hands, short arms, who gives a shit. pound for pound literally means what it says

[kennethgriffin]

this is pound for pound not length for length


pound for pound doesnt literally mean just "pounds" lol

like any skinny guy or any small guy

its about overall talent/skills/accomplishments with the least amount of physical advantages

- height
- weight
- speed
- strength
- quickness
- physical health
- hand size
- arm length

etc...

kobe did the most with the least amount of help from god

[hahaitme]

He had a physical advantage over that girl in Colorado :banana:

:applause:

[Cali Syndicate]

Kenneth close to KB42PAH tier. Keep reaching, almost there bro.

And I'm pretty sure Kobe used to be as elite an athlete as most, not top shelf athleticism but definitely ahead of the pack. While Kobe's as skilled a player as there's ever been, the way you're talking about him is like he has some Mitch Richmond type of athleticism or something.

And Kobe most certainly had an advantage. Being a NBA player's son, he had access to hundreds and hundreds of hours of NBA player footage. In that regard, that right there gives Kobe quite an edge over 99% of his peers.

[Cocaine80s]

pound for pound doesnt literally mean just "pounds" lol

like any skinny guy or any small guy

its about overall talent/skills/accomplishments with the least amount of physical advantages

- height
- weight
- speed
- strength
- quickness
- physical health
- hand size
- arm length

etc...

kobe did the most with the least amount of help from god
so basically what your saying is Kobe is not top 10?

I couldnt put someone like that in my GOAT list. hes lucky he was gifted 3 rings

[kennethgriffin]

:applause:

i dunno why you're agreeing with the guy

that night in colorado kobe was coming off knee and shoulder surgery, was on a ton of drugs and probably as weak as a kitten

that woman was fully healthy. i'm sure she could have taken out a high and drunk 1 arm, 1 legged man. she looked like a good 5-10 and was probably sober since she was working

and people always talk about kobes lack of fighting skills

lol

[oarabbus]

OP is trying to argue Kobe up by bringing up no physical advantage and athletic talent?

:biggums:

:roll:


Have you heard of LARRY BIRD? :roll:


No for real though if you want to argue what the player did with a broken down body and lacking physical advantages... then Larry >>> MJ... Larry is higher than god tier if you compare his lack of athleticism + broken back to MJ/Magic/Kareem.

[CavaliersFTW]

Jerry West did all of this and he weighed even less and he's white...

West > Kobe

/thread

[kennethgriffin]

OP is trying to argue Kobe up by bringing up his physical tools and athletic talent?

:biggums:

:roll:


Have you heard of LARRY BIRD? :roll:


6-10 small forward with dirk like ability to shoot over anyone with ease. just turned around and shot that over the head unblockable shot.

bird had a good 3 inches over any other small forward in the nba

and PF's couldnt defend him cause of his range

[kennethgriffin]

Jerry West did all of this and he weighed even less and he's white...

West > Kobe

/thread


yeah maybe if jerry did today what he did in the 60's it could be close

except... he was a 6-7 POINT GUARD for 90% of his career

and most of the league was just as unathletic at his position

[Cocaine80s]

yeah maybe if jerry did today what he did in the 60's it could be close

except... he was a 6-7 POINT GUARD for 90% of his career

and most of the league was just as unathletic at his position
6'7?

:roll:

[Prometheus]

yeah maybe if jerry did today what he did in the 60's it could be close

except... he was a 6-7 POINT GUARD for 90% of his career

and most of the league was just as unathletic at his position

Jerry West was 6'2" you tard.

[oarabbus]

6-10 small forward with dirk like ability to shoot over anyone with ease. just turned around and shot that over the head unblockable shot.

bird had a good 3 inches over any other small forward in the nba

and PF's couldnt defend him cause of his range


Bird > Kobe

If you consider "pound for pound player due to NO PHYSICAL ADVANTAGE"


then Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe

[kennethgriffin]

6'7?

:roll:

6-6 or 6-7

heres a pic of west and kobe next to each other.

west is damn near 80 years old. my grandfather was 6 feet in his prime. then at age 70-75 he shrank to about 5-9


if west is level with a 6-5 kobe.. then in wests prime he was 6-6 or 6-7 atleast

http://i57.tinypic.com/rtmiiu.jpg

if west is 6-2... then kobes 6-2

[Warfan]

Jerry West was 6'2" you tard.

He was probably a bit taller, but no way he's 6-7" :oldlol: I think he said he's 6-4.5"

[kennethgriffin]

He was probably a bit taller, but no way he's 6-7" :oldlol: I think he said he's 6-4.5"

west was atleast 6-6 in his prime

if an 80 year old west is level with prime kobe

old people shrink

[Warfan]

west was atleast 6-6 in his prime

if an 80 year old west is level with prime kobe

old people shrink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9jbyUlsPU

[Cocaine80s]

6-6 or 6-7

heres a pic of west and kobe next to each other.

west is damn near 80 years old. my grandfather was 6 feet in his prime. then at age 70-75 he shrank to about 5-9


if west is level with a 6-5 kobe.. then in wests prime he was 6-6 or 6-7 atleast

http://i57.tinypic.com/rtmiiu.jpg

if west is 6-2... then kobes 6-2
kobe is bent over and West is wearing dress shoes so that probably adds another inch.

West is 6'4 max

[kennethgriffin]

Bird > Kobe

If you consider "pound for pound player due to NO PHYSICAL ADVANTAGE"


then Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kobe

6-10 small forward with dirk like ability to shoot over anyone with ease. just turned around and shot that over the head unblockable shot.

bird had a good 3 inches over any other small forward in the nba

and PF's couldnt defend him cause of his range

:hammerhead:

[kennethgriffin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9jbyUlsPU


at 80 years old he says hes 6-4 and 1/2... nearly 6-5




AT 80!

my grandfather shrunk like george costanza's manhood after a cold swim before that age


if at 80 west is almost 6-5.. then imagine him at age 25

[Cocaine80s]

at 80 years old he says hes 6-4 and 1/2... nearly 6-5




AT 80!

my grandfather shrunk like george costanza's manhood after a cold swim before that age


if at 80 west is almost 6-5.. then imagine him at age 25
bad genetics


the future is not looking bright for you

[sundizz]

Easily steve nash or john stockton.

[kennethgriffin]

bad genetics


the future is not looking bright for you
he isnt blood.

besides i'm 6-3.. i can lose 5 inches and still tower over your midget ass

:roll:

[oarabbus]

Larry Bird <<< Kobe Bryant (at being athletically gifted)

[kennethgriffin]

Easily steve nash or john stockton.


but they didnt really .... do.... anything


if they did something... then i could say they did more with less advantages

but neither guy won a title, finals mvp

if we're just saying... whos got the least going for them

mike penburthy is the best.

but this is about best of the best with the least physical advantages



this alone should have dropped iverson from the mix. IMO isiah thomas was kobes only real challenge

[Cali Syndicate]

Kobe's not even standing up straight, you can see he's leaning with his left knee slightly bent while West is up straight as possible. Not to mention West is wearing dress shoes.

Either way, we're talking like an inch difference at max during their primes.

And with the shrinking part, athletes tend to develop a stronger bone matrix which will support their weight as they age against gravity better than a regular Joe.

[Cocaine80s]

he isnt blood.

besides i'm 6-3.. i can lose 5 inches and still tower over your midget ass

:roll:
im 6'0 at 14

[kennethgriffin]

Larry Bird <<< Kobe Bryant (at being athletically gifted)


its not about gifts. its about advantages over defense


the league evolved athletically. back in the 80s birds physique was actually decent. today he would look out of shape

but in reality. kobe didnt have a single physical advantage over defenders from 2004 on

bird had a 3-4 inch height advantage over small forwards nearly his entire career

[oarabbus]

its not about gifts. its about advantages over defense


the league evolved athletically. back in the 80s birds physique was actually decent. today he would look out of shape

but in reality. kobe didnt have a single physical advantage over defenders from 2004 on

bird had a 3-4 inch height advantage over small forwards nearly his entire career

First of all, Kobe had a height advantage over many SGs.

Second if you don't think Bird was guarded by the oppoposing team's BEST defender then... just lol.

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e4a9EFDjg

kobes made a career of sh*t like this

6-5, 200 pounds

blacking down and shooting a fade that almost has to hit the roof in order to go in over this 6-9, 260 pound HGH freak

[kennethgriffin]

First of all, Kobe had a height advantage over many SGs.

Second if you don't think Bird was guarded by the oppoposing team's BEST defender then... just lol.




kobes been getting guarded by small forwards for the past 10 years dumby

from tmac to lebron to battier to teyshaun to durant to pierce to many more





first of all.. read before posting

:hammerhead:

[oarabbus]

first of all.. read before posting

:hammerhead:


Read it. Came to the conclusion that Bird > Kobe

and pound for pound AI > Kobe

And domination wise Shaq > Kobe

And fundamentally Duncan > Kobe

[kennethgriffin]

Read it. Came to the conclusion that Bird > Kobe

and pound for pound AI > Kobe

And domination wise Shaq > Kobe

And fundamentally Duncan > Kobe


except kobe did more than any of these guys with less physical advantages

tim duncan had such an advantage that they felt sorry for PF's and switched him to center later on

:roll:

[masonanddixon]

I have Kobe ranked as the #1 player of the post-MJ era. I can't rank him all-time though because I haven;'t seen many of the older players (60s-70s-80s) play.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Nash, Stockton & Bird all way better given their physical gifts/advantages.
White people must be the best at basketball pound-for-pound, is that what you're getting at op?

[NZStreetBaller]

What about jordan ??? guy won 6 FMVPs same size as kobe.

But your probably going to say bigger hands and can jump higher.......

Okay fine but having 1 extra chip, loads more scoring titles and 4 more FMVPs has got to atleast make jordan equal with kobe in your mind right ??.

[I<3NBA]

He had a physical advantage over that girl in Colorado :banana:
That's all I wanna see in this thread. Good job Budadiii :applause:

[tragicbronson]

Man i love Kobe, he is probably my favorite player but you must admit that he is as much physically talented as he is in terms of basketball. His arms are really long and he is really athletic.

[NZStreetBaller]

Not true.. Jordan is on another level from a physical standpoint.

Jordan was a physical beast.. in his prime he outweighs Kobe by at least 15-20lbs, with broad shoulders, huge hands, 45 inch vertical, super quick/fast, best 1st 2nd 3rd 4th step.. freak of an athlete. Easily the most physically blessed perimeter player not named LeBron.

Alot of what kobe is comes from the skill set of jordan though.

So less physically advantageous = less career accolades.

Im not saying jordan is better pound for pound but im saying its gotta be equal

[sportjames23]

And Kobe most certainly had an advantage. Being a NBA player's son, he had access to hundreds and hundreds of hours of MJ footage. In that regard, that right there gives Kobe quite an edge over 99% of his peers.


Fixed that for you, bruh. :D

[sportjames23]

I don't recall Michael Jordan inventing a particular move that is his.. educate me on this. What skill set does MJ own?


The ability to not lose in the Finals.

Just sayin :confusedshrug:

[NZStreetBaller]

I don't recall Michael Jordan inventing a particular move that is his.. educate me on this. What skill set does MJ own?

I never said he owned them i said kobe's skill set basically is the way it is because he wanted to be like mike. therefore studied and utilised every skill that jordan had. Regardless of who has the "legal rights to the skill set:hammerhead:

Dont get me wrong i agree with OP that kobe is the best pound for pound but i feel that jordan is right next to him.

[9erempiree]

I am enjoying this thread.

Either get these Kobe haters to admit he was one the best athletically gifted players in the world like MJ or Wilt....

-or-

Make them admit he is pound for pound the greatest of all time....

Pick your poison haters.:banana:

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I am enjoying this thread.

Either get these Kobe haters to admit he was one the best athletically gifted players in the world like MJ or Wilt....

-or-

Make them admit he is pound for pound the greatest of all time....

Pick your poison haters.:banana:
Where does this logic come from?
:facepalm

[NZStreetBaller]

Pound for pound is a term used in combat sports such as boxing[1] or mixed martial arts[2] to describe a fighter's value in relation to fighters of different weight classes. As these fighters do not compete directly, judging the best fighter pound for pound is subjective, and ratings vary. They may be based on a range of criteria including "quality of opposition", factors such as how exciting the fighter is or how famous they are, or be an attempt to determine who would win if all those ranked were the same size.

If kobe was wilts or Shaqs size he would destroy anybody from any era.

[K Xerxes]

Pound for pound is a term used in combat sports such as boxing[1] or mixed martial arts[2] to describe a fighter's value in relation to fighters of different weight classes. As these fighters do not compete directly, judging the best fighter pound for pound is subjective, and ratings vary. They may be based on a range of criteria including "quality of opposition", factors such as how exciting the fighter is or how famous they are, or be an attempt to determine who would win if all those ranked were the same size.

If kobe was wilts or Shaqs size he would destroy anybody from any era.

He would be a completely different player in Wilts or Shaqs body, so you can't say he'd destroy anything except unwilling helpless females.

[Da_Realist]

Go watch some Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Dr. J footage.. nothing MJ did was innovative outside of his marketing campaign.

Jordan was unique. He did a lot of things you didn't see other players do. Maybe he took a little bit of this and added it to a little bit of that, but the way he combined everything made his game unique. Put 87-98 MJ into today's game and he'd still be the most popular. By far. You'd grab popcorn to watch his regular season games.

[I<3NBA]

I am enjoying this thread.

Either get these Kobe haters to admit he was one the best athletically gifted players in the world like MJ or Wilt....

-or-

Make them admit he is pound for pound the greatest of all time....

Pick your poison haters.:banana:
i'm going to admit he's athletically gifted
i'm also going to admit Bird isn't
then i'm going to say Bird>Kobe

[ArbitraryWater]

Mods arent doing shit... ******* doe.

Lotta bark but nothing happens.

[ralph_i_el]

Every day I get on ISH just to see what stupid shit Kenneth is going to say.

I guess that's what he wants? These mental gymnastics he goes through to prop up Kobe have to have some purpose right?

We all know how good Kobe was. Threads like this just make people want to underrate him to spite dumbasses like Kenneth and 9er

[Da_Realist]

I'm not disputing his popularity.. again, his marketability is truly unprecedented. But really.. what move was his own/did he invent?

Sure he was super-athletic and flew in the air like nobody could before him.. but come on.. lets not act like all of his moves weren't stolen from greats before him.

I think it's simplistic to talk about a "move". There's only so many ways to throw a punch but does that make everyone Muhammad Ali? I'm talking about the expression of his game, which involved moves, combination of moves, counter-moves, the absence of moves, etc. There has been no one that has expressed himself on the basketball court like MJ did -- which is the real reason WHY he was so popular. We've had plenty of people, especially after MJ, that have been heavily marketed. None of them can fill an arena like MJ did. MJ's popularity came from the unique way he expressed himself on the court and that fed into the marketing. The marketing didn't make MJ, just exposed him to people...who then became more interested in watching him play.

Marketing can only bring you to the well. It doesn't force you to drink and it doesn't keep you there. Marketing can get me to watch a player a few times initially, but if that player doesn't interest me, I won't watch him for long. Especially not for 15 years. It doesn't matter how many commercials he has. Marketing builds on the interest that is already there.

[dreamwarrior]

Those fingers (shooting fingers) that are always taped up, I have no idea how he can make a basket with that. He should be shooting 30% with those taped up fingers.

[PistonsFan#21]

In this thread: arguing that Iverson was more athletically and physically gifted than Kobe

:rolleyes:

[Kblaze8855]

Mods arent doing shit... ******* doe.

Lotta bark but nothing happens.


I glanced it over earlier and thought to myself "Does this guy know what a pound is or what "pound for pound" refers to?" and then ignored it.

Its poorly worded and clearly "agenda" driven but it isnt quite trolling.

It isnt true either(even in the way he means). But it isnt just....a flagrant disregard for the general rules.

I dont get involved in mild disregard.

[ArbitraryWater]

I glanced it over earlier and thought to myself "Does this guy know what a pound is?" and then ignored it.

Its poorly worded and clearly "agenda" driven but it isnt quite trolling.

It isnt true either(even in the way he means). But it isnt just....a flagrant disregard for the general rules.

I dont get involved in mild disregard.

lol


okay

[Kblaze8855]

Its not against the rules to be wrong.

Anyone can be wrong all day.

If I believe you believe it...and its not totally insane...im probably not gonna bother you about it.

Its the straight up "He cant be serious...and he has to know we know it" posts that draw my attention.

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

[ArbitraryWater]

Yea the "lol okay" wasn't meant to be me making fun of your way of thinking or anything..

I do get it the point. Just thought the bolded was kinda funny.

[ArbitraryWater]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ

:lol

One of the GOAT TV History Characters

[sportjames23]

Mods arent doing shit... ******* doe.

Lotta bark but nothing happens.


LOL, you ain't see all them nigguhs get banned lately? You should be happy, some of them were Lebron haters.

[ArbitraryWater]

LOL, you ain't see all them nigguhs get banned lately? You should be happy, some of them were Lebron haters.

Eh, its just 2 day shit...Doesnt really do much imo.

[KG215]

its impossible to have an opinion on anything without having a favorable agenda

nobody is completely 50/50 on anything.especially about their favorite sport/team/player

it could be about breast feeding. something i know nothing about nore care to even discuss. but if the subject came up. i'd want old uglys to keep that stuff at home. and young hotties to go public all they want

theres always gonna be a favorable agenda no matter what the subject is about.

if there wasnt a single agenda on ISH. there would never be a single discussion lasting more than 2-3 posts

the 1st post would be the question

the 2nd post would be "i dont care"

the 3rd post would be "InB4lock"


:confusedshrug:
Except your opinions are reserved exclusively for Kobe. Give it a rest.

[Lebronxrings]

Dirk

[oarabbus]

except kobe did more than any of these guys with less physical advantages

tim duncan had such an advantage that they felt sorry for PF's and switched him to center later on

:roll:

That's cool, but

Bird >Kobe
Duncan >Kobe
Shaq > Kobe
AI pound for pound > Kobe

[kennethgriffin]

That's cool, but

Bird >Kobe
Duncan >Kobe
Shaq > Kobe
AI pound for pound > Kobe

except 3 of those guys had their primes in the 2000s

and kobe won player of the 2000's decade from

sporting news
dime magazine
tnt fan vote

and was the only nba player in the top 10 of sports illustrated athletes of the decade list

shaq called kobe the best in the world many times
duncans coach called kobe the best during duncans prime


and pound for pound is relative to circumstances. kobe disqualifies himself just for weighing more? lol ok.. so its a little mans award. and isiah thomas is top 20 all time. iverson is barely top 40. so he isnt even the best at being small

[Cold soul]

I think p4p that honor would go to Allen Iverson as Durant recently said and you have to go with Steve Nash who was way less athletically gifted than Kobe. I mean both AI and Nash were 3-5 inches shorter than Kobe which is huge in basketball. Kobe was a freak athlete in his younger days and that gets overlooked by many.

[kennethgriffin]

I think p4p that honor would go to Allen Iverson as Durant recently said and you have to go with Steve Nash who was way less athletically gifted than Kobe. I mean both AI and Nash were 3-5 inches shorter than Kobe which is huge in basketball. Kobe was a freak athlete in his younger days and that gets overlooked by many.

if pound for pound truly is "best little man" like everyone on this board is claiming

then they would have to jump iverson about 15-20 spots all time ahead of top 20 player ISIAH THOMAS



its funny how people totally forget guys like stockton too... another top 20-25 player ever


iverson before durants comments were made public was routinely ranked as a top 35-40 player

he was looked at as a cancer later on. he couldnt change his game. quit on detroit/memphis. got shat out of philly in his last stint.

iversons career pretty much ended at age 32 with a big black eye on his resume

[oarabbus]

except 3 of those guys had their primes in the 2000s

and kobe won player of the 2000's decade from

sporting news
dime magazine
tnt fan vote

and was the only nba player in the top 10 of sports illustrated athletes of the decade list

shaq called kobe the best in the world many times
duncans coach called kobe the best during duncans prime


and pound for pound is relative to circumstances. kobe disqualifies himself just for weighing more? lol ok.. so its a little mans award. and isiah thomas is top 20 all time. iverson is barely top 40. so he isnt even the best at being small


Your argument SUCKS. Earlier you tried to rag on Bird and Duncan for their height advantage. Now "Kobe disqualifies himself just for weighing more?" lol no... he disqualifies himself for the 'height advantage' you disqualify Duncan and Bird on.
Kareem is also pound for pound better than Kobe so your argument sucks.

Kobe = not a top 5 ATG. Kobe = nowhere near "pound for pound best". Kobe = top 10 ATG though.

[Cold soul]

That's cool, but

Bird < Kobe
Duncan < Kobe
Shaq < Kobe
AI pound for pound > Kobe

Fixed.

[kennethgriffin]

Your argument SUCKS. Earlier you tried to rag on Bird and Duncan for their height advantage. Now "Kobe disqualifies himself just for weighing more?" lol no... he disqualifies himself for the 'height advantage' you disqualify Duncan and Bird on.
Kareem is also pound for pound better than Kobe so your argument sucks.

Kobe = not a top 5 ATG. Kobe = nowhere near "pound for pound best". Kobe = top 10 ATG though.


espn sportsnation poll this year had kobe ranked 7th all time


http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11090247/all-nba-players

over lebron #8

over duncan #9

over shaq #10

and iverson wasnt top 20





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant

straight from the wiki page


Sporting News NBA Athlete of the Decade (2000s)[93]


TNT NBA Player of the Decade (2000s)[94]


Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athlete of the Decade (2000s) #7 (the only NBA player in the top 10)[96]

Ranked #1 in Dime Magazine's 2012 list of the top 10 greatest players since the year 2000 (published in the September 2012 issue)[98]





sorry bro.. you can keep quoting your own opinion and say this guy > that guy! YAHA!~


i'l keep posting facts

:lol :roll: :cheers:

[oarabbus]

Ok, keep posting "facts". Doesn't change the fact that Kobe isn't the lb for lb best player :roll:


Backing up his argument with an ESPN sportsnation POLL :roll:

[kennethgriffin]

Ok, keep posting "facts". Doesn't change the fact that Kobe isn't the lb for lb best player :roll:


Backing up his argument with an ESPN sportsnation POLL :roll:


best pound for pound isnt even a winnable catigory for kobe

if it was then iverson wouldnt be the best. since hes barely a top 35 player all time

its a midget award


i personally thought it meant least advantages

and considering iversons twice as fast as any other PG. and kobe had no physical advantage over his defenders... i thought kobe did more with less help

but everyones convinced me that best pound for pound means the best guy under 6 feet that weighs 160 pounds

so all iverson had to do was walk into the gym and he won that award

big deal. his only competition was mugsey bogues i guess.


:lol

[kennethgriffin]

Backing up his argument with an ESPN sportsnation POLL :roll:

if you dont count the sportsnation

then look at the tnt vote

if you dont count tnt

then look at the dime magazine vote

if you dont count that

then look at the sporting news vote

if you dont count that

check S.I.

if not that

check the players/coaches opinions

if not that

check guys at the local bar. or ask your parents

if not them

i dunno.. ask god

:oldlol:

[KG215]

espn sportsnation poll this year had kobe ranked 7th all time


http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11090247/all-nba-players

over lebron #8

over duncan #9

over shaq #10

and iverson wasnt top 20





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Kobe_Bryant

straight from the wiki page


Sporting News NBA Athlete of the Decade (2000s)[93]


TNT NBA Player of the Decade (2000s)[94]


Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athlete of the Decade (2000s) #7 (the only NBA player in the top 10)[96]

Ranked #1 in Dime Magazine's 2012 list of the top 10 greatest players since the year 2000 (published in the September 2012 issue)[98]





sorry bro.. you can keep quoting your own opinion and say this guy > that guy! YAHA!~


i'l keep posting facts

:lol :roll: :cheers:
Posting the results from fan-voting based polls and other subjective rankings on lists isn't posting facts dumbass.

Seriously, like someone else said, it's very impressive and, really, a lot of fun to see the mental gymnastics you go through to find a new angle to prop up Kobe. Of course this particular post is tired as shit and one you've used for years, but the other angles you're using in this thread are fresh and pretty entertaining. Wrong and stupid as f**k, but entertaining nonetheless.

[ArbitraryWater]

Fixed.

Kids these days :facepalm

At least make your case.. will be funny

[oarabbus]

best pound for pound isnt even a winnable catigory for kobe

if it was then iverson wouldnt be the best. since hes barely a top 35 player all time

its a midget award


i personally thought it meant least advantages



:lol


Then your thread topic is already wrong, you just ethered yourself.


Or if you mean the second bolded statement, Kobe is nowhere close. Good job ethering yourself twice buddy :applause:

[Real Men Wear Green]

best pound for pound isnt even a winnable catigory for kobe
:facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

Posting the results from fan-voting based polls and other subjective rankings on lists isn't posting facts dumbass.

Seriously, like someone else said, it's very impressive and, really, a lot of fun to see the mental gymnastics you go through to find a new angle to prop up Kobe. Of course this particular post is tired as shit and one you've used for years, but the other angles you're using in this thread are fresh and pretty entertaining. Wrong and stupid as f**k, but entertaining nonetheless.

majority fan opinion

majority player opinion

majority sports writer opinion

majority any mother f*ckin god damn opinion you wish


favors kobe

i listed many different outlets braaaaaaaaaah

deal with it ya goof
:lol

[oarabbus]

It's ok kenneth, I sleep well at night knowing that Jordan > Kobe

[kennethgriffin]

:facepalm


can kobe shrink 5 inches? no



everyone on here is saying its about players under 6 feet

so its not a catigory kobe can win

by definition of durant and most on this board. its the best little man


and i'l say it again.. you're all wrong on that notion even under your own criteria












































ISIAH F*CKIN THOMAS??????????????

[ArbitraryWater]

best pound for pound isnt even a winnable catigory for kobe

if it was then iverson wouldnt be the best. since hes barely a top 35 player all time

its a midget award


i personally thought it meant least advantages

and considering iversons twice as fast as any other PG. and kobe had no physical advantage over his defenders... i thought kobe did more with less help

but everyones convinced me that best pound for pound means the best guy under 6 feet that weighs 160 pounds

so all iverson had to do was walk into the gym and he won that award

big deal. his only competition was mugsey bogues i guess.


:lol


:lol

Either way, Kobe ain't winning it

[Real Men Wear Green]

you're all wrong on that notion even under your own criteria
In a topic you made about how Bryant is the best pound for pound you said that Bryant can't be the best pound for pound. How are you going to debate the topic with other people when you don't even agree with yourself? Even you think you're an idiot.

[Cold soul]

Kids these days :facepalm

At least make your case.. will be funny

I'm not going to replay to a troll. I'm sorry it just isn't worth the time or effort with someone like you. BTW you should try to get out of your parents basement you're averaging 41 post a day. Good god man that's truly sad and pathetic do you ever see the sunlight during the day or go outside? :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

In a topic you made about how Bryant is the best pound for pound you said that Bryant can't be the best pound for pound. How are you going to debate the topic with other people when you don't even agree with yourself? Even you think you're an idiot.

under my criteria of pound for pound

kobe is goat

under durant and most peoples criteria of pound for pound

isiah thomas is goat


i still dont know where this whole allen iverson thing came from.

[kennethgriffin]

Isiah Thomas 6-1, 180 pounds

almost 20/10 his entire career

Honors
1979 McDonald's All American
1980-81 NCAA AP All-America (1st)
1981-82 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
1982-83 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
1983-84 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1984-85 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1985-86 NBA All-NBA (1st)
1986-87 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
All-Star Games
1982 NBA
1983 NBA
1984 NBA
1985 NBA
1986 NBA
1987 NBA
1988 NBA
1989 NBA
1990 NBA
1991 NBA
1992 NBA
1993 NBA

Awards
1980-81 NCAA Final Four Most Outstanding Player
1983-84 NBA All-Star Game MVP
1985-86 NBA All-Star Game MVP
1987-88 NBA Finals MVP robbed in game 6*
1989-90 NBA Finals MVP

Championships
(Minimum 1 playoff game)
1988 Detroit Pistons (NBA) robbed in game 6*
1989 Detroit Pistons (NBA)
1990 Detroit Pistons (NBA)




sorry guys but zeke is the GOAT pound for pound among little guys

[red1]

nah. AI is the best p4p

[Real Men Wear Green]

under my criteria of pound for pound

The moon is a piece of green cheese. Got it.

[kennethgriffin]

nah. AI is the best p4p


You have that 38% cancer who couldnt make it with the grizzlies (when they sucked ) ahead of isiah thomas all time?

[KG215]

majority fan opinion

majority player opinion

majority sports writer opinion

majority any mother f*ckin god damn opinion you wish


favors kobe

i listed many different outlets braaaaaaaaaah

deal with it ya goof
:lol

And all any fan-based voting list proves is Kobe is an immensely popular player. I'm fairly certain the TNT poll was a fan-vote poll taken right after Kobe won back-to-back in 2009 and 2010. Kobe, until recently, has been the only player in NBA history to really rival Jordan's worldwide popularity. LeBron is getting there and probably isn't too far behind Kobe at this point, but Kobe's spent his entire career playing in a massive market whereas LeBron has spent most of his career playing in Cleveland.

Point being, and I'm not saying Kobe's rankings or accolades garnered in any of those fan-vote polls are egregiously off-base or anything, because they're not; but if you can't see and understand that they're somewhat skewed based on Kobe's popularity relative to the other great players of his era, then you're even more delusional than I thought. While you're the extreme of the extreme in terms of creepily obsessed Kobe stalker-like fans, there's a shitload of similar Kobe fans out there...and there's especially a whole hell of a lot more of them than there are Duncan and Shaq fans.

[buddha]

except Kobe is the same weight as the best player ever so this doesn't make any sense.

[Cali Syndicate]

majority fan opinion

majority player opinion

majority sports writer opinion

majority any mother f*ckin god damn opinion you wish


favors kobe

i listed many different outlets braaaaaaaaaah

deal with it ya goof
:lol

Then why does Kobe only have one MVP?

As for player of the decade, while Kobe does have a great argument for it, no other player was as fortunate as Kobe with their time in history. His age for 00-09 was 21-30. Considering shaq who was basically on the backside of his career halfway through the decade, Lebron who started his career in 04 or Duncan who loses a championship season because it's considered the previous decade...player of the decade kinda just works out best for Kobe. But again, he does have a great argument for it.

[kennethgriffin]

And all any fan-based voting list proves is Kobe is an immensely popular player. I'm fairly certain the TNT poll was a fan-vote poll taken right after Kobe won back-to-back in 2009 and 2010. Kobe, until recently, has been the only player in NBA history to really rival Jordan's worldwide popularity. LeBron is getting there and probably isn't too far behind Kobe at this point, but Kobe's spent his entire career playing in a massive market whereas LeBron has spent most of his career playing in Cleveland.

Point being, and I'm not saying Kobe's rankings or accolades garnered in any of those fan-vote polls are egregiously off-base or anything, because they're not; but if you can't see and understand that they're somewhat skewed based on Kobe's popularity relative to the other great players of his era, then you're even more delusional than I thought. While you're the extreme of the extreme in terms of creepily obsessed Kobe stalker-like fans, there's a shitload of similar Kobe fans out there...and there's especially a whole hell of a lot more of them than there are Duncan and Shaq fans.


On the sportsnation poll. Lebron had 800 more 1st place votes than kobe. So even with more fan boys. Kobe came out ontop

Sorry. You failed again mister man

;)

[Cali Syndicate]

except Kobe is the same weight as the best player ever so this doesn't make any sense.
He's saying pound for pound not only in weight but also in height, athleticism, wingspan, hand size, girth, double-jointedness, wpm, street cred, etc...

[ralph_i_el]

if pound for pound truly is "best little man" like everyone on this board is claiming

then they would have to jump iverson about 15-20 spots all time ahead of top 20 player ISIAH THOMAS



its funny how people totally forget guys like stockton too... another top 20-25 player ever


iverson before durants comments were made public was routinely ranked as a top 35-40 player

he was looked at as a cancer later on. he couldnt change his game. quit on detroit/memphis. got shat out of philly in his last stint.

iversons career pretty much ended at age 32 with a big black eye on his resume
Isiah Thomas is a top 20 player now? :facepalm I think not

[rightsideup]

Not true.. Jordan is on another level from a physical standpoint.

Jordan was a physical beast.. in his prime he outweighs Kobe by at least 15-20lbs, with broad shoulders, huge hands, 45 inch vertical, super quick/fast, best 1st 2nd 3rd 4th step.. freak of an athlete. Easily the most physically blessed perimeter player not named LeBron.
or vince carter

[KG215]

On the sportsnation poll. Lebron had 800 more 1st place votes than kobe. So even with more fan boys. Kobe came out ontop

Sorry. You failed again mister man

;)
Then that just means their voting point system was pretty f***ked up.

Or, if I want to make up my own logic and do some mental gymnastics, LeBron just didn't have as many fanboys voting for him. Sure, his "fanboys" voted him 1st, but there's strength in numbers and because Kobe received more total votes than LeBron, Kobe's creepy, stalker-like fanboys (like you) outnumber LeBron's creepy, stalker-like fanboys.

[kennethgriffin]

Then that just means their voting point system was pretty f***ked up.

Or, if I want to make up my own logic and do some mental gymnastics, LeBron just didn't have as many fanboys voting for him. Sure, his "fanboys" voted him 1st, but there's strength in numbers and because Kobe received more total votes than LeBron, Kobe's creepy, stalker-like fanboys (like you) outnumber LeBron's creepy, stalker-like fanboys.



Actually it isnt f*cked. It just means that more non kobe fans had kobe higher on their list than non lebron fans had lebron on their list

The kobe and lebron fan boys werent powerful enough to sway the vote. Thats what it means



Doooooofffus :roll:

[kennethgriffin]

Isiah Thomas is a top 20 player now? :facepalm I think not


Does this f*cking matter? Whether thomas is too 20 or 25 or wherever. Hes above iverson

[Cold soul]

Then why does Kobe only have one MVP?

As for player of the decade, while Kobe does have a great argument for it, no other player was as fortunate as Kobe with their time in history. His age for 00-09 was 21-30. Considering shaq who was basically on the backside of his career halfway through the decade, Lebron who started his career in 04 or Duncan who loses a championship season because it's considered the previous decade...player of the decade kinda just works out best for Kobe. But again, he does have a great argument for it.

Why does Shaq, Hakeem, etc only have one MVP? The fact is MVP is media driven award certain years were certain players were robbed. Kobe was best player of the 2000's decade even though it's debatable for sure.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Why does Shaq, Hakeem, etc only have one MVP? The fact is MVP is media driven award certain years were certain players were robbed. Kobe was best player of the 2000's decade even though it's debatable for sure.

no it isn't

nobody accomplished more than Kobe did during the 2000's

his biggest competition would be duncan or shaq

duncan-3 rings & 2 fmvps

shaq-4 rings 3fmvps but for the last 3 years of his career wasn't dominate enough to hold up against Kobe & Duncan

Kobe-5 rings 2 fmvps, more all nba first teams than Duncan in the 2000's

finished off the decade by winning b2b fmvps

[T_L_P]

no it isn't

nobody accomplished more than Kobe did during the 2000's

his biggest competition would be duncan or shaq

duncan-3 rings & 2 fmvps

shaq-4 rings 3fmvps but for the last 3 years of his career wasn't dominate enough to hold up against Kobe & Duncan

Kobe-5 rings 2 fmvps, more all nba first teams than Duncan in the 2000's

finished off the decade by winning b2b fmvps


Actually, if we're going down this route, 2010 is the start of a new decade.

2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009

That's 10 years and 10 seasons, with 10 champions.

So Kobe has 4 rings and 1 Finals MVP during the 2000s decade. Not that it doesn't make him the player of the decade (he probably is), but it's not some irrefutable fact that it's him.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Actually, if we're going down this route, 2010 is the start of a new decade.

2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009

That's 10 years and 10 seasons, with 10 champions.

So Kobe has 4 rings and 1 Finals MVP during the 2000s decade. Not that it doesn't make him the player of the decade (he probably is), but it's not some irrefutable fact that it's him.

woops good point

[KG215]

Actually it isnt f*cked. It just means that more non kobe fans had kobe higher on their list than non lebron fans had lebron on their list

The kobe and lebron fan boys werent powerful enough to sway the vote. Thats what it means



Doooooofffus :roll:
How the f**k would you even know this? How could you even prove it? Because that would require you to know the favorite player of every voter. You never cease to amaze me with the the things you're able delude yourself into believing.

[Cold soul]

no it isn't

nobody accomplished more than Kobe did during the 2000's

his biggest competition would be duncan or shaq

duncan-3 rings & 2 fmvps

shaq-4 rings 3fmvps but for the last 3 years of his career wasn't dominate enough to hold up against Kobe & Duncan

Kobe-5 rings 2 fmvps, more all nba first teams than Duncan in the 2000's

finished off the decade by winning b2b fmvps


Hey man I have Kobe the best of 2000's decade but if someone makes the case for Shaq or Duncan I won't disagree at all. I mean all three are close. Shaq for his sheer dominance during the three peat, the most unstoppable player downlow. Kobe for the longevity, GOAT skill set, and all records he's broken he has sustained excellence by any perimeter player maybe ever. Duncan was such a amazing defender, bank shot off the glass, fundamentals off the charts on offense, great leader and team player, unselfish, good longevity, best PF ever.

[JohnFreeman]

Duncan and Shaq clearly better in the 2000s

[buddha]

He's saying pound for pound not only in weight but also in height, athleticism, wingspan, hand size, girth, double-jointedness, wpm, street cred, etc...

http://img.pandawhale.com/39003-wat-know-your-meme-gif-olJb.gif

[oarabbus]

http://img.pandawhale.com/39003-wat-know-your-meme-gif-olJb.gif


:roll:


It's great how this topic is 9 pages of kenneth vs. the world. No one agrees with him yet he steadfastly makes ridiculous claims :lol

edit: 10 pages now

[kennethgriffin]

Actually, if we're going down this route, 2010 is the start of a new decade.

2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009

That's 10 years and 10 seasons, with 10 champions.

So Kobe has 4 rings and 1 Finals MVP during the 2000s decade. Not that it doesn't make him the player of the decade (he probably is), but it's not some irrefutable fact that it's him.


there is no year zero dumby


it goes

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10


the year 2001 was the actual millennium year in the bible


:hammerhead:

[oarabbus]

there is no year zero dumby


it goes

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10


the year 2001 was the actual millennium year in the bible


:hammerhead:


We aren't going by the bible you dolt. 1990-1999 is a decade, 2000-2009 is another decade, 2010-2019 is the next.

[kennethgriffin]

We aren't going by the bible you dolt. 1990-1999 is a decade, 2000-2009 is another decade, 2010-2019 is the next.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


then pray tell oh wise man of ISH

if we dont go by the bible timeline. then why THA F*CK ELSE... would it be the year......


2014AD



:facepalm :bowdown: epic stupidity

[kennethgriffin]

the beginning of our calendar, the first day would be Jan. 1, 1AD. That's the day that would follow Dec. 31, 1 BC.

This is why every century begins in the XX01 year and not the XX00 year. The first day of this century, and millennium, was Jan. 1, 2001.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GST-q_H_W3Y

[Marchesk]

then pray tell oh wise man of ISH

if we dont go by the bible timeline. then why THA F*CK ELSE... would it be the year......


2014AD

Yeah, but scholars have determined Jesus was probably born between 6 and 4 BC, so it's actually more like 2020.

[Marchesk]

the beginning of our calendar, the first day would be Jan. 1, 1AD. That's the day that would follow Dec. 31, 1 BC.

This is why every century begins in the XX01 year and not the XX00 year. The first day of this century, and millennium, was Jan. 1, 2001.

So did the calendar go from 1 BC to 1 AD without hitting zero? :biggums: :coleman:

[Dr Hawk]

http://i.imgur.com/CtasUdY.jpg

[Marchesk]

http://i.imgur.com/CtasUdY.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

[sportjames23]

http://i.imgur.com/CtasUdY.jpg


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Andrei89]

Because POTATO?

[sportjames23]

Because POTATO?


I think a mod trolled him. :oldlol:

[KG215]

So Griff has officially reached Euroleague status. His threads are so terrible and so stupid mods are now editing his thread titles.

Awesome.

[f0und]

kennyg has been at his kobe nu+hugging days for a long time, dating back about a decade ago to the now defunct espn forums. dude has been making these kinds of ridiculous threads and comments ever since. im 100% sure that he has made at least 50 threads talking about how kobe is the most athleticly gifted player ever.

[Sakkreth]

I remember seeing a thread recently where a mod said that people will get banned for trolling. What happened to that ?

[dr.hee]

I remember seeing a thread recently where a mod said that people will get banned for trolling. What happened to that ?

Good question, lol.

[ArbitraryWater]

no it isn't

nobody accomplished more than Kobe did during the 2000's

his biggest competition would be duncan or shaq

duncan-3 rings & 2 fmvps

shaq-4 rings 3fmvps but for the last 3 years of his career wasn't dominate enough to hold up against Kobe & Duncan

Kobe-5 rings 2 fmvps, more all nba first teams than Duncan in the 2000's

finished off the decade by winning b2b fmvps

yea, um, 2010 doesn't belong to the 2000's decade, dumbass.... I seriously hope you knew this.

Either way it doesn't change much. Another retarded Kobe Apostle, or another lying Kobe Apostle.

[ArbitraryWater]

Hey man I have Kobe the best of 2000's decade but if someone makes the case for Shaq or Duncan I won't disagree at all. I mean all three are close. Shaq for his sheer dominance during the three peat, the most unstoppable player downlow. Kobe for the longevity, GOAT skill set, and all records he's broken he has sustained excellence by any perimeter player maybe ever. Duncan was such a amazing defender, bank shot off the glass, fundamentals off the charts on offense, great leader and team player, unselfish, good longevity, best PF ever.

oh wow :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

the beginning of our calendar, the first day would be Jan. 1, 1AD. That's the day that would follow Dec. 31, 1 BC.

This is why every century begins in the XX01 year and not the XX00 year. The first day of this century, and millennium, was Jan. 1, 2001.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GST-q_H_W3Y


http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/leo.png http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/deadmanny.png http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/IYtzswg.png

And the bolded in particular http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/holeup.png http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/1b7KG.png

No, you flying retard... The start of the decade and millenium was Jan 1, 2000.

I mean, for **** sake, you're saying 1990 belonged to the 1980's.....

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s261x260/994379_10201675426301727_2064623678_n.jpg


Do you know how dumb you sound right now? You GOTTA be trolling...

[TheMarkMadsen]

yea, um, 2010 doesn't belong to the 2000's decade, dumbass.... I seriously hope you knew this.

Either way it doesn't change much. Another retarded Kobe Apostle, or another lying Kobe Apostle.

What is your deal?

You jump on anybody's ass who has anything positive to say bout Kobe. I admitted to the mistake pages back..

Did you really need to quote 3 straight post about Kobe so you could call everybody a retard? Does that make you feel better?

At this point you're a joke of a poster who just goes along with his schtick of attacking every poster who doesn't hate Kobe with a passion like you do.

Pretty sad really, You come off as a very insecure person.

Seriously mods. Do your job

[Milbuck]

AW's objective, doe. Has no problem with Kobe at all :oldlol:

[hawke812]

And what did you measure him? 6.75"?

My tonsils can confirm it is much bigger than that:pimp:

[ArbitraryWater]

Look at Milbuck still craving for my attention :oldlol:

http://www.stippy.com/wp/wp-content/zuploads/2011/09/salt.jpg

Me saying 2010 isn't part of the 2000's decade (And frankly, I didn't scroll down but immediately replied, my apologies, MM.)

= "lolol and aw think's he's objective lolol"

[Milbuck]

You've literally went back 5-7 months to dig up dozens of my old posts before.

I make one little sarcastic comment and I'm "craving your attention"

Anyways, considering what happened here, I'm sure you wouldn't mind my attention :oldlol:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339504

[ArbitraryWater]

"One little sarcastic comment" :lol

You've been doing the "AW is just an objective guy" like 3 times already now.. Gimme the attention though :applause:

To the link, looks like this situation:

http://i.gyazo.com/ff76db9e3985d3018003862350f1900a.png

Just a joke... Some won't get it though.

[Milbuck]

That thread was about ISH alt accounts, and tons of posters were doing that joke.

Whereas you literally tried to respond to yourself on your own thread with a different account because no one gave you a serious response.

Dozens of posters called you out on that shit and all you had was the usual "rent free", "catching feelings" garbage. Lmfao at the damage control :oldlol:

[DJ Leon Smith]

http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/leo.png http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/deadmanny.png http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/IYtzswg.png

And the bolded in particular http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/holeup.png http://hoops-nation.com/community/public/style_emoticons/default/1b7KG.png

No, you flying retard... The start of the decade and millenium was Jan 1, 2000.

I mean, for **** sake, you're saying 1990 belonged to the 1980's.....

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s261x260/994379_10201675426301727_2064623678_n.jpg


Do you know how dumb you sound right now? You GOTTA be trolling...

Nope, he's that dumb. Starved of oxygen in the womb dumb. Father punched his pregnant wife in the gut dumb. Legitimate special needs status dumb.

[Cold soul]

Nope, he's that dumb. Starved of oxygen in the womb dumb. Father punched his pregnant wife in the gut dumb. Legitimate special needs status dumb.

Damn... That's just cold, man. :(

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.legionxxiv.org/dateyeartime/


http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/year-history.html


http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/mil2000.html




The 3rd Millennium starts January 1st, year 2001 NOT year 2000 as many people believe, when using the Gregorian calendar.
Year 2000 starts January 1st, year 2000.


Why am I the only one on inside hoops that provides evidence and links to back up my argument


Its a fact that there was no year 0 in our calendar


So if the first 10 years were

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

Then every 10 years after that decade would round of with 10... NOT 9


YOU F*CKING MORONS






holy shhhhh*t

[kennethgriffin]

http://www.legionxxiv.org/dateyeartime/


http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/year-history.html


http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/mil2000.html




The 3rd Millennium starts January 1st, year 2001 NOT year 2000 as many people believe, when using the Gregorian calendar.
Year 2000 starts January 1st, year 2000.


Why am I the only one on inside hoops that provides evidence and links to back up my argument


Its a fact that there was no year 0 in our calendar


So if the first 10 years were

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

Then every 10 years after that decade would round of with 10... NOT 9


YOU F*CKING MORONS






holy shhhhh*t

[T_L_P]

"In the AD year numbering system, whether applied to the Julian or Gregorian calendars, AD 1 is preceded by 1 BC. There is no year "0" between them. Because of this, most experts agree that a new century begins in a year with the last digits being "01" (1801, 1901, 2001); new millennia likewise began in 1001 and 2001. A common misconception is that centuries and millennia begin when the trailing digits are zeroes (1800, 1900, 2000, etc.);[4] moreover, this convention was widely used to celebrate the new millennium in the year 2000. For computational reasons astronomical year numbering and the ISO 8601 standard designate years so that AD 1 = year 1, 1 BC = year 0, 2 BC = year −1, etc.[57] In common use, ancient dates are expressed in the Julian calendar, but ISO 8601 uses the Gregorian calendar and astronomers may use a variety of time scales depending on the application. Thus dates using the year 0 or negative years may require further investigation before being converted to BC or AD."

I don't see decades mentioned here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_(decade)


The 2000s (pronounced "two-thousands") was a decade that began on January 1, 2000, and ended on December 31, 2009.

[Cali Syndicate]

So, FYI a decade is any 10 year period.

00-09 is a decade.
01-10 is a decade.
05-14 is a decade

But generally speaking with decades, like the 70's 80's 90's etc, the year 2000 is not recognized as part of the 90's decade despite what is actually true in terms of the actual calender meaning of the "new" decade.

[ArbitraryWater]

That thread was about ISH alt accounts, and tons of posters were doing that joke.

Whereas you literally tried to respond to yourself on your own thread with a different account because no one gave you a serious response.

Dozens of posters called you out on that shit and all you had was the usual "rent free", "catching feelings" garbage. Lmfao at the damage control :oldlol:

Your still online? :eek:

Anyway, IDGAF, young buck... Stayin' rent free in your shit hole of a brain :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

You can't compare the year 0 to something like 2010 :facepalm

2010 is not ZERO... 0 was the actual START OF TIME. (As it's been recorded)

Like, oh my god, this is so retarded... You probably ignored like 50 articles saying a decade is 00-09, 90-99, etc until you found something that you can somehow twist :facepalm

[Milbuck]

Your still online? :eek:

Anyway, IDGAF, young buck... Stayin' rent free in your shit hole of a brain :applause:
Glad you got the right account this time :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Enough.