The Greatest Of All Time

[sweggeh]

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Mayweather will never touch this legacy. Nobody will.

"It'll be a killer, and a chiller, and a thriller, when I get the gorilla in Manila."

"Hes too ugly to be the world champ. The world champ should be pretty, like me."

"Im young, Im handsome, Im fast, Im pretty and cant possibly be beat."

"No. I will not go ten thousand miles from here, to help murder and kill another poor people simply to continue the domination of white slave masters over the dark people."

"Im am bigger than boxing. I am bigger than all the champions put together. Im bigger than the Superbowl, the Rose Bowl, the Kentucky Derby, when I go the World truly listens."

[T_L_P]

Eh. Sugar Ray was the better fighter.

[NumberSix]

Boxers from smaller weight classes don't even count. Saying a middleweight is the best is like saying a woman boxer is the best. I don't care how how great you are in your inferior division.

[L.Kizzle]

Boxers from smaller weight classes don't even count. Saying a middleweight is the best is like saying a woman boxer is the best. I don't care how how great you are in your inferior division.
Great logic.

Wilt > Jordan it's finally settled.

William Perry > Walter Payton

[NumberSix]

Great logic.

Wilt > Jordan it's finally settled.

William Perry > Walter Payton
These sports don't have weight classes. :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[rlsmooth775]

Boxers from smaller weight classes don't even count. Saying a middleweight is the best is like saying a woman boxer is the best. I don't care how how great you are in your inferior division.

That doesn't really make sense

[Lebron23]

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[NumberSix]

That doesn't really make sense
Except, it does.

[DeuceWallaces]

Boxers from smaller weight classes don't even count. Saying a middleweight is the best is like saying a woman boxer is the best. I don't care how how great you are in your inferior division.

Congratulations! The dumbest thing I've read yet today.

[NumberSix]

Congratulations! The dumbest thing I've read yet today.
Use you're common sense. Anyone who claims a middleweight fighter is the best ever is just wrong. It's the same argument as saying a woman is the best just because she dominates weak competition.

[Lebron23]

Use you're common sense. Anyone who claims a middleweight fighter is the best ever is just wrong. It's the same argument as saying a woman is the best just because she dominates weak competition.


What are you talking about?? Some of the most talented boxers fought in the lighter divisions. SRR was a beast. He was a legendary fighter at 147 to 160, and he almost beat the Light Heavyweight champion despite being way past his prime.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Use you're common sense. Anyone who claims a middleweight fighter is the best ever is just wrong. It's the same argument as saying a woman is the best just because she dominates weak competition.

Most ATG boxers fought in lighter divisions.

Using your logic, a bum like Samuel Peter > Sugar Ray Robinson

[Budadiiii]

Use you're common sense. Anyone who claims a middleweight fighter is the best ever is just wrong. It's the same argument as saying a woman is the best just because she dominates weak competition.
:facepalm

You say a lot of stupid shit, but this takes the cake.

[MavsSuperFan]

Great logic.

Wilt > Jordan it's finally settled.

William Perry > Walter Payton
That is a terrible counter argument. Jordan and Payton both proved to be better at their particular sport. A sport without weight classes

The only thing stopping a heavyweight from beating a lightweight is that they are prevented from fighting because it wouldnt be fair.

If you want to argue lower weight classes can be more skillful, than I agree 100%

No way are they better fighters or would they ever beat a heavyweight in a match

[MavsSuperFan]

Most ATG boxers fought in lighter divisions.

Using your logic, a bum like Samuel Peter > Sugar Ray Robinson
He never said that. he is saying that the all time best heavyweight would beat the all time best at any weight divison.

Do you really believe Sugar Ray Robinson could beat Ali? Or even Fraser, Foreman, Joe Lewis, Lennox Lewis, Tyson, etc?

[MavsSuperFan]

That doesn't really make sense
What he is saying is elite heavyweights will always beat smaller fighters in a boxing match.

basically that weight classes are necessary because size matters in boxing

[MavsSuperFan]

Congratulations! The dumbest thing I've read yet today.
Do you honestly believe an elite heavyweight would lose a fight to a smaller boxer?

All his post is saying is that weight classes are necessary because its unfair to make a small boxer fight a heavyweight

[sweggeh]

Do you honestly believe an elite heavyweight would lose a fight to a smaller boxer?

All his post is saying is that weight classes are necessary because its unfair to make a small boxer fight a heavyweight

Ignore DW. He just goes into threads and copy and pastes random insults. He has no idea wtf hes on about.

[ThePhantomCreep]

He never said that. he is saying that the all time best heavyweight would beat the all time best at any weight divison.

Do you really believe Sugar Ray Robinson could beat Ali? Or even Fraser, Foreman, Joe Lewis, Lennox Lewis, Tyson, etc?

But that's not what he said. He said boxers in lower weight classes don't even count, implying that only heavyweights should be considered for GOAT status.

[iamgine]

A lightweight doesn't have to be able to beat a heavyweight to be greater.

[Jailblazers7]

Do you honestly believe an elite heavyweight would lose a fight to a smaller boxer?

All his post is saying is that weight classes are necessary because its unfair to make a small boxer fight a heavyweight

Boxing is a sport based on technical abilities, combo of speed and power, etc which is dependent on weight class. It is not a contest of who would win a bar fight. I don't see any reason why I would say the Klitchsko's are better than Ray Leonard or PBF just because they'd win a street fight.

[Budadiiii]

A lightweight doesn't have to be able to beat a heavyweight to be greater.
Dominating relative to your weight class doesn't mean shit to NumberSix. P4P doesn't exist in his contrarian world.

He doesn't even believe what he says. He just spits out something that his half-way dependable so he can have a different opinion than everyone else.

[MavsSuperFan]

Boxing is a sport based on technical abilities, combo of speed and power, etc which is dependent on weight class. It is not a contest of who would win a bar fight. I don't see any reason why I would say the Klitchsko's are better than Ray Leonard or PBF just because they'd win a street fight.
Im not saying a street fight, the bigger fighter (unless skills are widely disproportionately in favor of the smaller fighter) will always beat a smaller fighter in a boxing match

I dont disagree that smaller fighters might be more technically skilled, in fact peak PBF is probably the most technically skilled fighter of all time.

I often think smaller fighters are faster.

Heavyweights can absorb punishment and deal blows that lighter weight class just cannot contend with. They are the best boxers in absolute terms. If we are going to judge who is best by who would beat who in a boxing match.

P4P is basically just measuring technical skills and disregarding the advantages size bestows (power and the ability to absorb damage)
P4P is completely hypothetical.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Im not saying a street fight, the bigger fighter (unless skills are widely disproportionately in favor of the smaller fighter) will always beat a smaller fighter in a boxing match

I dont disagree that smaller fighters might be more technically skilled, in fact peak PBF is probably the most technically skilled fighter of all time.

I often think smaller fighters are faster.

Heavyweights can absorb punishment and deal blows that lighter weight class just cannot contend with. They are the best boxers in absolute terms. If we are going to judge who is best by who would beat who in a boxing match.

P4P is basically just measuring technical skills and disregarding the advantages size bestows (power and the ability to absorb damage)
P4P is completely hypothetical.

Tommy Morrison > Roberto Duran everyone!