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sweggeh
09-20-2014, 06:40 AM
They guy was banned from boxing from age 25 - 29 for opposing the Vietnam war. He had no prime. He was still young and growing when he got banned and was already on the natural decline when he returned. Yet he is still considered the GOAT by many despite having NO PRIME. We have never seen him at his best, we have no idea how good he could have been.

Thats amazing. He must be the greatest.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2009/8/18/1250607373339/Muhammad-Ali-in-1970-001.jpg
SunsN07BookIt
09-20-2014, 07:02 AM
They guy was banned from boxing from age 25 - 29 for opposing the Vietnam war.


He was banned for his draft dodging conviction not because of his opposition. Lots of regular Americans opposed the shitty war but still had to fight.

It's too bad he didn't suck off a state senator to pressure the military into giving him a bogus deferment like Bill Clinton or have a politician daddy like W to give him a cushy job in the Air Force flying fighter jets but only inside the safety of US borders.
sweggeh
09-20-2014, 08:12 AM
Yeah and he was lucky to escape 5 years in prison for it too. Such bullshit. Pretty much irreversibly handicapped the career of the GOAT.
NZStreetBaller
09-20-2014, 08:29 AM
taking all that time off is meant to hinder your boxing experience too. but ali did just fine.
dunksby
09-20-2014, 10:28 AM
A bunch of GOATs :applause:

http://media.cleveland.com/sports_impact/photo/african-american-athletes-at-news-conference-af400c2cb31b07a9.jpg
Lebron23
09-20-2014, 10:46 AM
That what separates Ali from Tyson. He was just a more skilled boxer than Iron Mike who relied on his speed and athletic ability.
DeuceWallaces
09-20-2014, 11:05 AM
They guy was banned from boxing from age 25 - 29 for opposing the Vietnam war. He had no prime. He was still young and growing when he got banned and was already on the natural decline when he returned. Yet he is still considered the GOAT by many despite having NO PRIME. We have never seen him at his best, we have no idea how good he could have been.

Thats amazing. He must be the greatest.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2009/8/18/1250607373339/Muhammad-Ali-in-1970-001.jpg

God damn kids. You think no one talks about this? You read his wiki page and now you're going to enlighten us? :lol

It's one of the defining moments of his life and legacy and a constant part of his narrative.
Lebron23
09-20-2014, 11:10 AM
The Holy Trinity of Boxing:

1. Muhammad Ali (goat feet, mind, aesthetics)
2. Mike Tyson (goat punch, tenacity)
3. Floyd Mayweather (goat defense)


Pernell Whitaker is rolling in his grave.
ArbitraryWater
09-20-2014, 11:13 AM
The Holy Trinity of Boxing:

1. Muhammad Ali (goat feet, mind, aesthetics)
2. Mike Tyson (goat punch, tenacity)
3. Floyd Mayweather (goat defense)

yea.. no
SCREWstonRockets
09-20-2014, 11:46 AM
When people hate on Floyd Mayweather Jr.. I'm like..



:pimp:

This is an Ali thread, nobody gives a **** about Floyd in this thread. Go slurp him up in the #TMT thread :lol

Just a random fact, but Ali use to bill himself fighting out of Houston for a few fights :pimp: . He was even indicted on those charges in a Houston court.
MadeFromDust
09-20-2014, 11:57 AM
His name is Cassius Clay :rolleyes:
MadeFromDust
09-20-2014, 11:59 AM
A bunch of GOATs :applause:

http://media.cleveland.com/sports_impact/photo/african-american-athletes-at-news-conference-af400c2cb31b07a9.jpg
Caption: "The Angry Black Man"
QuebecBaller
09-20-2014, 12:03 PM
http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Coming-to-America-em13.jpg

What about Rocky Marciano?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il9jJObx7FE


:D :D :D
DonDadda59
09-20-2014, 12:48 PM
http://www.automaxtraining.com/Portals/0/breaking-news.gif

Also... His mama named him Clay... So Imma call him Clay.
NBAplayoffs2001
09-20-2014, 05:02 PM
They guy was banned from boxing from age 25 - 29 for opposing the Vietnam war. He had no prime. He was still young and growing when he got banned and was already on the natural decline when he returned. Yet he is still considered the GOAT by many despite having NO PRIME. We have never seen him at his best, we have no idea how good he could have been.

Thats amazing. He must be the greatest.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Pix/pictures/2009/8/18/1250607373339/Muhammad-Ali-in-1970-001.jpg

My favorite athlete of all time. I didn't know much about him until recently this summer to be honest. I always knew his name, my father knows his story and my father only follows WWE Raw but said everyone knew who Ali was and that his father was a big fan. My brother told me to watch a ton of documentaries he knew of Muhammad Ali. He is the greatest in my mind as an athletic representative of the world.
NBAplayoffs2001
09-20-2014, 05:03 PM
The Holy Trinity of Boxing:

1. Muhammad Ali (goat feet, mind, aesthetics)
2. Mike Tyson (goat punch, tenacity)
3. Floyd Mayweather (goat defense)

For me it has to be
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Sugar Ray Robinson (interchangeable IMO with Ali)
3. Rocky Marciano or Joe Louis.