Gun to your head, Who is the Greatest Player ever iyo

[The_Pharcyde]

No debate or anything, just want to see what people's opinions are

Just list who the player is and 2 or 3 sentences why
For me, Jordan. This guy has the competitive nature of a major Fortune 500 CEO, and the work ethic to match, his game evolved multiple times and he still dominated. He never lost in the post season when he had HCA, meaning when the Bulls were favored to win they never got upset. No other all time great can say that about their team.

[AnaheimLakers24]

do I get shot if I pick wrong?

[The_Pharcyde]

do I get shot if I pick wrong?
You do if you don't tell your honest opinion

[Myth]

Kobe stans would rather die than admit it is anybody else.

[Sakkreth]

This won't work, posters don't have a gun pointed at their head.

[dubeta]

Kobe stans would rather die than admit it is anybody else.

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" GODBE come down from the heavens and protectt me ":bowdown: :bowdown:

[ArbitraryWater]

:roll: :roll:

" GODBE come down from the heavens and protectt me ":bowdown: :bowdown:

:oldlol:

[G0ATbe]

GOATbe:pimp: .

[bdreason]

Kareem. Dominated at every level of the game.

[gts]

Kareem. Dominated at every level of the game.this...

I'll add for a longer time than anyone else

[Denitron]

Jordan


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" GODBE come down from the heavens and protectt me ":bowdown: :bowdown:

:lol :lol

[fpliii]

No debate or anything, just want to see what people's opinions are

Just list who the player is and 2 or 3 sentences why
For me, Jordan. This guy has the competitive nature of a major Fortune 500 CEO, and the work ethic to match, his game evolved multiple times and he still dominated. He never lost in the post season when he had HCA, meaning when the Bulls were favored to win they never got upset. No other all time great can say that about their team.
True. Russell's team lost in the 58 Finals with HCA. Guess I have to hold it against him, eh?

[Budadiiii]

Kobe.

[kennethgriffin]

wilt

i'd choose him for my team before anyone else

[The_Pharcyde]

True. Russell's team lost in the 58 Finals with HCA. Guess I have to hold it against him, eh?

I wouldn't say you have to hold it against him, it's just something MJ has that others don't...
There is something to say when every time your were the favorite you sealed the deal, no ifs ands or buts

[The_Pharcyde]

wilt

i'd choose him for my team before anyone else


Kobe.

Briefly explain why, no wrong answer its your opinion

[fpliii]

I wouldn't say you have to hold it against him, it's just something MJ has that others don't...
There is something to say when every time your were the favorite you sealed the deal, no ifs ands or buts
I was being sarcastic. Russell's ankle was sprained, and he missed a good part of that series (his only Finals loss).

[kennethgriffin]

if you strip everything away and just think about the type of player they are

#1 wilt
#2 kobe
#3 jordan
#4 shaq
#5 bird

these are the 5 guys i would most fear going up against

[The_Pharcyde]

I was being sarcastic. Russell's ankle was sprained, and he missed a good part of that series (his only Finals loss).

o lol dont know the 58 season off the top of my head.

[Mass Debator]

Shaq :(

Greatest player that I ever saw from day 1 without research. Next is Kobe and KG. Only saw Jordan in his later years and my best memories of him is him as a Wizard.

[fpliii]

o lol dont know the 58 season off the top of my head.
lol I was just being an ass, but I think HCA is a silly thing to hold against a guy. Especially since the conferences aren't equal.

Something like SRS (robust metric that measures team strength) as opposed to HCA (which is based on wins) would be better IMO. MJ very well might come out on top in that measure too (he probably would), I just think it's safer to use.

[Marchesk]

Benard King tbh

[Budadiiii]

Briefly explain why, no wrong answer its your opinion
Kobe scored 81.

To score 81 in the modern era prove you are the GOAT. He literally had the greatest "peak"

When comparing all the greats... they all have similar stats and similar achievements. All were MVP worthy year in and year out, won championships, bla ba bla

What sticks out is a guy who scored 81 one game to will his team to victory. He scored 62 in 3 quarters once as well.

He has the greatest game of anyone ever, and that is what makes him stick out from all the other legends.

[KirbyPls]

MJ. I'm 34 and saw his entire career. Never a fan, but always in awe.

[Jlamb47]

Duncan - Quiet player who can dominate both ends of the floor.

[Budadiiii]

More mentions for Kobe than Jordan. :lol

I guess this proves it once and for all. Kobe > Jordan

That is the ISH consensus, correct?

[oarabbus]

Depends who's holding the gun.

If it's Jlauber or Pauk, I sure as hell ain't gonna say Jordan :lol

[GrapeApe]

Jordan, and the only other guys in the discussion are KAJ, Wilt, and Russell. KAJ has a very strong case for having the greatest overall basketball career.

[Beastmode88]

More mentions for Kobe than Jordan. :lol

I guess this proves it once and for all. Kobe > Jordan

That is the ISH consensus, correct?

Kobe would pick MJ in this situation.

[fpliii]

Depends who's holding the gun.

If it's Jlauber or Pauk, I sure as hell ain't gonna say Jordan :lol
LOL

[Cold soul]

MJ for me 6 for 6 all FMVP and no game 7 needed in NBA Finals. One of the greatest sport icons of our time and most competitive athlete you will ever come across.

[DatAsh]

True. Russell's team lost in the 58 Finals with HCA. Guess I have to hold it against him, eh?
People aren't going to get this

[La Frescobaldi]

Kinda depends on the scenario, to me.

If it's street ball, stylin' on everybody, that's Connie Hawkins. Dude was the sleekest, shiftiest, coolest player I ever saw on concrete.
With those giant hands, if Kawhi Leonard ever wanted to model his offense after a player without any doubt it should be Fly Hawk.

If it's the all round guy that can do literally everything from bomb 3s to play physical D on a power forward or a center, high speed sprint, drive, pass..... but does it with a bludgeony no-style fugly complete nadir of Connie Hawkins fashion..... probably LeBron James.

If it's a perimeter guy, it's Jordan. The guy was the whole package from outside, for 10 years or more the greatest player in the greatest league there is.

If you need a guy who can get any and every player on the team involved, and get their very best game all year long, and then get them all to elevate even higher in the playoffs, that is........... a hard call. Either Magic Johnson, or Tim Duncan (I only saw Russ when he was old so can't say on him).

If you need a guy who will continuously give you unstoppable offense, great rebounding, and virtually error-free, immaculate defense for an entire generation(!!) gimme Jabbar.

If it's the greatest all-round offensive force in history, greatest rebounder in history, combined with the highest level of defense I ever saw, that's Wilt Chamberlain.

[Prometheus]

I don't really think those of us who pick Jordan should bother explaining ourselves. Everyone knows his story.

Anyway, yeah I'll take Jordan.

[sdot_thadon]

I wouldn't say you have to hold it against him, it's just something MJ has that others don't...
There is something to say when every time your were the favorite you sealed the deal, no ifs ands or buts
So basically giving credit for winning games you're supposed to? I can see that but I think winning games/series you have no business winning is more impressive, just my opinion.

Anyhow my pick is Mj, gun to my head. He rates pretty high if not top 5 in any criteria you can dream up.

[Inactive]

Michael Jeffrey Jordan, a.k.a Mike, Air Jordan, M.J., His Airness, Money, Black Cat, The Legend, The G.O.A.T, etc.

[Soundwave]

Jordan.

Who's no.2/3 is a more interesting discussion.

[pauk]

Greatest accolades - Bill Russell

Greatest talent - Wilt Chamberlain

Greatest allround talent - Oscar Robertson

Combination of everything above - Michael Jordan

Conclusion - Michael Jordan!

[Round Mound]

MJ: never liked him or his fans but i have to admit he was the best

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

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[The_Pharcyde]

So basically giving credit for winning games you're supposed to? I can see that but I think winning games/series you have no business winning is more impressive, just my opinion.

Anyhow my pick is Mj, gun to my head. He rates pretty high if not top 5 in any criteria you can dream up.

He did that too, 1993 ECF, 1998 Finals, 1989 "the shot", not that they didn't have a shot to win... But they didn't have HCA

But I think the reliability of never losing when you are supposed to seal the deal is more impressive, but you definitely need to account for both

[MrC1991]

jordan, easily.

[dubeta]

Tough question, but I have to go with LeBron James

[DatAsh]

Kinda depends on the scenario, to me.

If it's street ball, stylin' on everybody, that's Connie Hawkins. Dude was the sleekest, shiftiest, coolest player I ever saw on concrete.
With those giant hands, if Kawhi Leonard ever wanted to model his offense after a player without any doubt it should be Fly Hawk.

If it's the all round guy that can do literally everything from bomb 3s to play physical D on a power forward or a center, high speed sprint, drive, pass..... but does it with a bludgeony no-style fugly complete nadir of Connie Hawkins fashion..... probably LeBron James.

If it's a perimeter guy, it's Jordan. The guy was the whole package from outside, for 10 years or more the greatest player in the greatest league there is.

If you need a guy who can get any and every player on the team involved, and get their very best game all year long, and then get them all to elevate even higher in the playoffs, that is........... a hard call. Either Magic Johnson, or Tim Duncan (I only saw Russ when he was old so can't say on him).

If you need a guy who will continuously give you unstoppable offense, great rebounding, and virtually error-free, immaculate defense for an entire generation(!!) gimme Jabbar.

If it's the greatest all-round offensive force in history, greatest rebounder in history, combined with the highest level of defense I ever saw, that's Wilt Chamberlain.
Sounds like Wilt is your guy. Nothing wrong with that:cheers:

[tgan3]

Jordan for me too, just because of his competitiveness and his scoring ability/Clutch to take over a game and his transcendence to basketball in general.

But I definitely can see why someone would pick a guy like Wilt/Kareem/Russell/Shaq who can be so dominant in the post. If it was an all-time draft, I might pick one of those big men over Jordan as you can always pair another talented wing and still have a championship caliber team.

[Milbuck]

People are sleeping on Jason Kidd, damn :facepalm

[jlip]

Depends on how I'm feeling that day. Anybody on my top tier.

[BoNafidde]

Shaq

Most dominant.
Unstoppable.
No one could guard him.

[Inferno]

if you strip everything away and just think about the type of player they are

#1 wilt
#2 kobe
#3 jordan
#4 shaq
#5 bird

these are the 5 guys i would most fear going up against

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[Kvnzhangyay]

Shaq

[kennethgriffin]

:roll:

what?

hes 2nd only to wilt with 81 points

2nd only to wilt in 60 point games

2nd only to wilt in consecutive 40 point games

2nd only to wilt in consecutive 35 point games

2nd only to wilt in consecutive 50 point games



kobe and wilt are by far the most deadly players when in the zone

i fear those 2 guys more than anyone

[dubeta]

what?

hes 2nd only to wilt with 81 points

2nd only to wilt in 60 point games

2nd only to wilt in consecutive 40 point games

2nd only to wilt in consecutive 35 point games

2nd only to wilt in consecutive 50 point games



kobe and wilt are by far the most deadly players when in the zone

i fear those 2 guys more than anyone

Missing 55% of your shots on average isnt 'deadly'

[Imtheman]

Kobe

[CavaliersFTW]

Wilt Chamberlain

[NZStreetBaller]

Wilt Chamberlain

This.

100 points 2nd only to kanye

[Asukal]

Jordan. Stats, accolades, heart, skill.... what can I say the man has it all. :applause:

[c5terror]

Lebron James.
Never travel,
greatest footwork,
greate off the ball,
greatest post player,
greate FT,
greatest Midrange,
natural killer,
always turn up the gear in 4th quarter and he's the great wall of china, a sentinel defensively, nobody can score on him especial guys like barrea and terry and he can guard 1-5 position especially shaq who he can shut down with ease.

[Helix]

The Big Dipper.

[ImKobe]

Kobe

[kshutts1]

Greatest accolades - Bill Russell

Greatest talent - Wilt Chamberlain

Greatest allround talent - Oscar Robertson

Combination of everything above - Michael Jordan

Conclusion - Michael Jordan!
What's the difference between "greatest talent" and greatest allround talent"?

[kshutts1]

Depends on how I'm feeling that day. Anybody on my top tier.
This for me.

And my top tier consists of...

Wilt
Shaq
Russell
Kareem
Bird
Oscar
MJ

...and sometimes I put Magic in the top tier, sometimes I leave him down with Kobe, Duncan, etc, in the second tier. I think he's second tier, full time, from now on.

[Deuce Bigalow]

George

[HOoopCityJones]

Bean.

[andgar923]

Depends who's holding the gun.

If it's Jlauber or Pauk, I sure as hell ain't gonna say Jordan :lol
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[andgar923]

MJ hands down.

Dominated an era full of bigs.

Was the best offensive player and defensive player.

Only player that I can think of that dominated in the paint and the perimeter on both ends as well.

The man changed basketball history, redefined what basketball is and was. How so? we judge players from the past and future differently. Hell, standards have changed so much that we even judge athletes from other sports based on MJ's legacy/achievements. Our expectations across the board have completely changed.

Ball in somebody's hands to save the universe, I don't care how much time is left or the situation... MJ is the best bet. He can create for himself and others, won't chuck up a shot, won't choke and pass it up, he can create from the perimeter-escape double and triple teams, or simply catch in the post and hit a turnaround.

Does anybody trust any other player to save the world under any situation?

He beat the MonStars for lord's sake!

"I stand like colossus regardless to whom or what"

[Budadiiii]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24481811/kevin-durant-says-kobe-bryant-is-the-goat-along-with-jordan

Can't argue with this.

1. Kobe
1A. Jordan

[JellyBean]

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

[TheMan]

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