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tgan3
09-22-2014, 11:52 PM
Before Lebron and Durant (6'8 and 6'9). The best player in the league was considered to be shorter but skilled wings, like Kobe 6'6 (in the discussion), and even before that Jordan 6'6.

There doesn't seem to be a 6'6 elite wing now. Closest is Harden, but he is never in the discussion of being the present best player in the league, plus his playing style is ugly. Only Lebron and Durant is debatable Trend seems to favor the taller small forwards who can do it all now... (Paul George and Melo)
Even in the future, Andrew Wiggins (6'8 SF), is expected to continue the trend. We might likely see the death of the super-skilled 6'4-6'6 wing. (Harden not on that level, Wade/Ginobili already old)

kennethgriffin
09-22-2014, 11:58 PM
do they have to be 6-6



if so i'd say probably not... just with the way the rules are today favoring point guards.

teams are stocking up on ball dominant scoring points.

the days of the PG that stands in the corner shooting threes ( ala kerr/fisher ) are over

its the evolution of the game for SG's to go back to their traditional place as a guy who's a role player/shooting specialist or defensive role player with athleticism

we might not see another SG like kobe or jordan for a while

bizil
09-22-2014, 11:59 PM
Before Lebron and Durant (6'8 and 6'9). The best player in the league was considered to be shorter but skilled wings, like Kobe 6'6 (in the discussion), and even before that Jordan 6'6.

There doesn't seem to be a 6'6 elite wing now. Closest is Harden, but he is never in the discussion of being the present best player in the league, plus his playing style is ugly. Only Lebron and Durant is debatable Trend seems to favor the taller small forwards who can do it all now... (Paul George and Melo)
Even in the future, Andrew Wiggins (6'8 SF), is expected to continue the trend. We might likely see the death of the super-skilled 6'4-6'6 wing. (Harden not on that level, Wade/Ginobili already old)

As of now, I don't see anybody on the horizon. The SG spot depth wise is as down as it has been in a long time. And as u mentioned all the premier SF's are 6'8 and up, many which actually play some PF in addition to SF. Even historically, the only players who were 6'6 and the best player in the L were MJ and Kobe. In Big O's era, Wilt was always regarded as the best. In Dr. J's era, Kareem or Moses was considered the best. Usually the best player in the L was a big man (C or PF) OR a perimeter guy (Lebron, Bird, or Magic) who had the size and could play the PF.

Droid101
09-23-2014, 12:01 AM
Never. The league is changing. 6'8-7'0 wing players will be the Nuts going forward, until they change the rules in a noticeable way.

Jameerthefear
09-23-2014, 12:03 AM
Kobe was never the best player in the league. Stop trolling.

kennethgriffin
09-23-2014, 12:04 AM
Kobe was never the best player in the league. Stop trolling.


yes he was

Jameerthefear
09-23-2014, 12:06 AM
yes he was
No, he wasn't.

dubeta
09-23-2014, 12:07 AM
Dante Exum :applause:

lol

Droid101
09-23-2014, 12:08 AM
Kobe was never the best player in the league. Stop trolling.
I thought troll posts were ban worthy now? Reported.

kennethgriffin
09-23-2014, 12:08 AM
No, he wasn't.

yea he was

dubeta
09-23-2014, 12:10 AM
Kobe was never the best player in the league. Stop trolling.

this :applause:


I have it as

2000-2005 alternated between Shaq and Duncan. Tmac was probably the best in 2003

2006 it was Dirk/Wade/LeBron

2007 Duncan/LeBron

2008-2014 in was LeBron

kennethgriffin
09-23-2014, 12:10 AM
I thought troll posts were ban worthy now? Reported.
thats high praise for jameer

are you sure he's worth a mods attention?

Jameerthefear
09-23-2014, 12:15 AM
yea he was
No, he wasn't.

kennethgriffin
09-23-2014, 12:16 AM
No, he wasn't.


says you

Cold soul
09-23-2014, 12:31 AM
No, he wasn't.

Yes, he was. Reported for trolling.

Jameerthefear
09-23-2014, 12:37 AM
I'm not trolling. Kobe was never the best player in the league. I dare you to hit that report button.

kennethgriffin
09-23-2014, 12:39 AM
I'm not trolling. Kobe was never the best player in the league. I dare you to hit that report button.

why do you think we care about your opinion.

try harder

bizil
09-23-2014, 12:47 AM
In terms of Kobe being the best player in the world, I think u could start to say that once Shaq began declining. From there, I think it was between Kobe, Duncan, and KG. U could argue either of the three, but I think Kobe was more forceful a two way player who was the closest thing to Jordan. Usually I would pick a PF, C, or a big perimeter player like Bron, Magic, or Bird who could play PF. But Kobe and MJ are simply the anamoly historically. Most of the time, the guys with some sort of big man trait are the best in the world. But I mean shit that's to take nothing away from Big O, Baylor, Dr. J, Wade, West, Barry, Hondo, Isiah, and those immortal kind of perimeter players. They are as skilled as anybody in many ways. It's just that MJ and Kobe were as perfect as it gets for PURE PERIMERTER SIZED PLAYERS (guys who play PG-SF not the bigger versions like Bron, Magic, Bird)!

Cold soul
09-23-2014, 12:51 AM
I'm not trolling. Kobe was never the best player in the league. I dare you to hit that report button.

The majority of the planet disagrees with you. Please stop being an idiot and trolling with most sites you'd be banned by now.

GrapeApe
09-23-2014, 01:19 AM
Wade at 6'4 (really 6'3) may never have been the concensus best player in the league, but he was definitely in the coversation multiple years.

Round Mound
09-23-2014, 01:32 AM
Jordan and Kobe Are Not 6`6 ft. They Are Both 6`4 3/4 ft

Cocaine80s
09-23-2014, 01:33 AM
I'm not trolling. Kobe was never the best player in the league. I dare you to hit that report button.
truth

AnaheimLakers24
09-23-2014, 01:39 AM
Jordan and Kobe Are Not 6`6 ft. They Are Both 6`4 3/4 ft
basketball players like playing in shoes

sundizz
09-23-2014, 01:51 AM
If we are talking about wing players...maybe Wiggins? I'd consider Durant a wing player too. He gets pushed out of the post area by CP3.

3ball
09-23-2014, 01:54 AM
We might likely see the death of the super-skilled 6'4-6'6 wing.


This is melodramatic.

Before Jordan there was Magic, Bird and Dr. J, who were all taller than 6'6".

Before them there was Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylor who were 6'5".

So the height that results in the top players goes both up and down over the years.. it's not a material observation imo.

sportjames23
09-23-2014, 02:14 AM
I'm not trolling. Kobe was never the best player in the league. I dare you to hit that report button.


Just did.

reported

oarabbus
09-23-2014, 02:17 AM
This is melodramatic.

Before Jordan there was Magic, Bird and Dr. J, who were all taller than 6'6".

Before them there was Oscar Robertson and Elgin Baylor who were 6'5".

So the height that results in the top players goes both up and down over the years.. it's not a material observation imo.


yes he was


Holy shit, I'm agreeing with both kenneth and 3ball in the same topic.

Kobe was definitely the best player in the league at one point... and there's nothing magical about 6'6. And like bizil said the best player has been a true big man more often than not.