the 30K / 5K club

[kennethgriffin]

30,000+ points ( regular season )
5,000+ points ( playoffs )



Michael Jordan

Kobe Bryant

Kareem Abdul Jabbar



the 3 most prolific scorers in nba history

who else will join them one day?

[iTare]

lebron james

[KendrickPerkins]

Kevin Durant, the GOAT scorer.

[Milbuck]

Lebron, KD, Giannis, and Jabari.

[kennethgriffin]

Kevin Durant, the GOAT scorer.


he's got a great chance. but at only 14k and only 2K playoffs.. he's a looooooooooong ways away


anything can happen. i think lebron is the only realistic bet. and thats assuming he continues his injury free career

but i'm seeing/predicting a serious problem down the road for lebron.

its very rare a guy plays 99% of games 11 straight years without hitting the wall sooner or later

and lebrons playing deep into the playoffs every year cause of he east.

i think in mileage lebrons already around 35. hes not 30

[Smook A.]

LeBron James and Kevin Durant will be on that list one day.

LBJ - 29 years old
23,000 Career Regular Season Points
4,400 Career Playoff Points

KD - 25 years old
15,000 Career Regular Season Points
2,100 Career Playoff Points

[kennethgriffin]

as soon as kobe reaches 35K in a year and a half

him and kareem will be the only 2 guys in the

35/5/5 club

35K points
5K playoff points
5 rings



KOBE and CAP

will lebron or durant be able to make it ?

[dubeta]

he's got a great chance. but at only 14k and only 2K playoffs.. he's a looooooooooong ways away


anything can happen. i think lebron is the only realistic bet. and thats assuming he continues his injury free career

but i'm seeing/predicting a serious problem down the road for lebron.

its very rare a guy plays 99% of games 11 straight years without hitting the wall sooner or later

and lebrons playing deep into the playoffs every year cause of he east.

i think in mileage lebrons already around 35. hes not 30

LeBron's 29 while Kobe is 36

LeBron is only 8000 points away while being 7 years younger

He can basically catch kobe on his current rate in 3-4 years, or can coast and catch him in 7 years scoring only like 1200 a year

Either way LeBron will catch Kobe eventually

[KG215]

as soon as kobe reaches 35K in a year and a half

him and kareem will be the only 2 guys in the

35/5/5 club

35K points
5K playoff points
5 rings



KOBE and CAP

will lebron or durant be able to make it ?
Go ahead and post it, because we all know you've got it narrowed down to some other arbitrary numbers club that includes ONLY Kobe. Not quite sure what it is,, but I know you've got it.

[sbw19]

Duncan will probably eclipse Kobe's playoffs total in like two or three years (barring a miracle Lakers playoff run,) but I don't think he has enough in him to hit 30k.

[Cali Syndicate]

he's got a great chance. but at only 14k and only 2K playoffs.. he's a looooooooooong ways away


anything can happen. i think lebron is the only realistic bet. and thats assuming he continues his injury free career

but i'm seeing/predicting a serious problem down the road for lebron.

its very rare a guy plays 99% of games 11 straight years without hitting the wall sooner or later

and lebrons playing deep into the playoffs every year cause of he east.

i think in mileage lebrons already around 35. hes not 30

Predicting or hoping? Outside of knee problems, which is a bridge all prolific basketball players cross, I don't see Lebron hitting an injury bug unless its some kind of freak accident.

[kennethgriffin]

Go ahead and post it, because we all know you've got it narrowed down to some other arbitrary numbers club that includes ONLY Kobe. Not quite sure what it is,, but I know you've got it.

kobes been part of that reserved club i have in my back pocket for quite some time

i'm still waiting for the right opportunity to pull that ace out of my sleeve


ok here it is anyway



30/10/10 club

30 X K points
10 X all nba
10 X all defense



one member


Kobe Bryant


infact. kobes also the only member of the 30/15/10 club... with 15 all nba teams.. but i thought i'd make it easier for everyone else

[kennethgriffin]

LeBron's 29 while Kobe is 36

LeBron is only 8000 points away while being 7 years younger

He can basically catch kobe on his current rate in 3-4 years, or can coast and catch him in 7 years scoring only like 1200 a year

Either way LeBron will catch Kobe eventually




lebron wasnt that far ahead of kobes pace before kobes leg injuries


lebron is 30 for the upcoming season

kobe is 36 for the upcoming season

meaning lebron is 6 years younger

their birthdays are separated by like 4 months

but anyway


kobe by age 35 had 31,617 points

lebron is at 23,170

thats 8,447

would take an average of 1,407 points per season to be at 31,617 by age 35

which is around 19ppg if you play on average 75 games a season

i see lebron averaging a much lower scoring average this season

could be at around 23-24ppg

then 2016 at around 22-23ppg

then 2017 at around 20-21ppg

then 2018 at around 18-20ppg

2019 at around 17-19ppg

2020 at around 16-17ppg


keep in mind. when lebrons 35. kyrie and love will be prime

well over 6 years those averages combined might just be enough to get up to 31-32 K




its not such a big walk in the park. not as lebron gets older and his team mates start taking over the scoring load

trust me

[livingby3's]

he's got a great chance. but at only 14k and only 2K playoffs.. he's a looooooooooong ways away


anything can happen. i think lebron is the only realistic bet. and thats assuming he continues his injury free career

but i'm seeing/predicting a serious problem down the road for lebron.

its very rare a guy plays 99% of games 11 straight years without hitting the wall sooner or later

and lebrons playing deep into the playoffs every year cause of he east.

i think in mileage lebrons already around 35. hes not 30

of course a fan of basketball would hope any players to remain healthy, unless the dude is fk up.

the fact that LeBron, who's not known to be a prolific scorer, for him to reach 30k / 5k, and stacking his resume with his assists and rebounds total, really show how great an all around player he is, much more than most other players. Currently

Points Rebounds Assist totals
Reg Season,
23k/6k/5.7k

Playoffs
4.4k/1.3k/1k

at worst lets say LeBron average 1.8k points, 400 rebounds, 400 assists in the regular season for the next 4 (age 33), he will have 30k/7.5k/7k. Hes gonna get more if there isn't much dropoff in the next few season. And say he play till 35. Positively we might see something close to 30+/9/9.

Playoffs wise he's only getting to 5k total points in 1 or 2 playoffs, depending on his performance and the number of games he's going to be playing in, but the Cavs most probably will be going deep.

Now joining the 30/5k club with a bunch of stats dominant to another member of the club, say Kobe for instant, really show his greatness as a complete all around player.

[dubeta]

lebron wasnt that far ahead of kobes pace before kobes leg injuries


lebron is 30 for the upcoming season

kobe is 36 for the upcoming season

meaning lebron is 6 years younger

their birthdays are separated by like 4 months

but anyway


kobe by age 35 had 31,617 points

lebron is at 23,170

thats 8,447

would take an average of 1,407 points per season to be at 31,617 by age 35

which is around 19ppg if you play on average 75 games a season

i see lebron averaging a much lower scoring average this season

could be at around 23-24ppg

then 2016 at around 22-23ppg

then 2017 at around 20-21ppg

then 2018 at around 18-20ppg

2019 at around 17-19ppg

2020 at around 16-17ppg


keep in mind. when lebrons 35. kyrie and love will be prime

well over 6 years those averages combined might just be enough to get up to 31-32 K




its not such a big walk in the park. not as lebron gets older and his team mates start taking over the scoring load

trust me

LeBron's lowest scoring season since his rookie year has been 26.8 ppg :facepalm


Thats with playing with a 25 ppg Wade and a 19 ppg Bosh. Heck Wade and leBron both averaged 25-26 ppg no problem


I dont see LeBron averaging less than 25 ppg for the next 4-5 years minimum

So in 3-4 years I predict he'll catch Kobe at the age of like 33


When LeBron retires

36000 points 10000 rebounds 10000 assists

GOAT all around stats :applause: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Cocaine80s]

kobes been part of that reserved club i have in my back pocket for quite some time

i'm still waiting for the right opportunity to pull that ace out of my sleeve


ok here it is anyway



30/10/10 club

30 X K points
10 X all nba
10 X all defense



one member


Kobe Bryant


infact. kobes also the only member of the 30/15/10 club... with 15 all nba teams.. but i thought i'd make it easier for everyone else
Mods.

[kennethgriffin]

LeBron's lowest scoring season since his rookie year has been 26.8 ppg :facepalm


Thats with playing with a 25 ppg Wade and a 19 ppg Bosh. Heck Wade and leBron both averaged 25-26 ppg no problem


I dont see LeBron averaging less than 25 ppg for the next 4-5 years minimum

So in 3-4 years I predict he'll catch Kobe at the age of like 33


When LeBron retires

36000 points 10000 rebounds 10000 assists

GOAT all around stats :applause: :bowdown: :bowdown:


dunno about that. lebron would basically have to average 30/7/7 till hes 38 years old for that to happen LOL

[dubeta]

dunno about that. lebron would basically have to average 30/7/7 till hes 37 years old for that to happen LOL

more like 27/6/6 until he's 35, more than likely

[GrapeApe]

LeBron and Durant will get there barring catastrophic injury, and they have an outside chance of being the 2 most prolific scorers in history when it's all said in done.

[kennethgriffin]

more like 27/6/6 until he's 35, more than likely


are you retarded



the last 2 years lebrons averaged about 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists


so even without a natural decline ( which he will face ).. lets predict ( at best )


2015 (age 30) 12th season 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists
2016 (age 31) 13th season 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists
2017 (age 32) 14th season 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists
2018 (age 33) 15th season 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists
2019 (age 34) 16th season 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists
2020 (age 35) 17th season 2000 points, 550 rebounds, 500 assists



currently has
23,170 points
6086 rebounds
5790 assists

+ 12,000 points
+ 3,300 rebounds
+ 3,000 assists

= 35,170 points ( which is funny enough exactly what kobe should have )
= 9,386 rebounds
= 8,790 assists


sorry bro

lebron will need atleast a perfect average from now till age 36 to crack that 36K
10K
10K


and i think lebron will dip in assists/rebounds/points drastically playing with waiters/irving/love

especially since those guys will be prime soon while lebron will be old soon


i'm tellin you. lebrons average will dip to 20ppg within 1-2 years and it wont recover.

[Cali Syndicate]

LeBron and Durant will get there barring catastrophic injury, and they have an outside chance of being the 2 most prolific scorers in history when it's all said in done.

Durant has the potential to be the greatest scorer of all time IMo. Once he develops a post game and builds a stronger core/foundation, he might become unstoppable.

[livingby3's]

Durant has the potential to be the greatest scorer of all time IMo. Once he develops a post game and builds a stronger core/foundation, he might become unstoppable.

True this. We are perhaps witnessing the greatest scorer (Durant) and greatest all around player (LeBron) in our time of watching basketball. Well even if they don't go down as the greatest, they will be top 3 in their department barring any significant career threatening injury. Not sure why people are hating.

[KG215]

of course a fan of basketball would hope any players to remain healthy, unless the dude is fk up.


Griff doesn't give a f**k about the Lakers, other players, or the NBA in general. He exclusively cares about Kobe and only Kobe.

[kennethgriffin]

Griff doesn't give a f**k about the Lakers, other players, or the NBA in general. He exclusively cares about Kobe and only Kobe.

wrong

i've been a die hard laker fan since i was in grade 8 during the 97-98 season

i had both original oldschool #8 champion jerseys

kids were sayin "whos kobe o'brian?

i was in canada. so bare in mind there wasnt allot of press for kobe up here yet

but i knew who kobe was since the dunk contest. became a casual fan of the lakers cause i rooted for shaq in the 95 and 96 playoffs. he was popular at the time and i hated jordan. so naturally i went for the 2nd biggest name

when the 98 allstar game happened. i decided LA would be my official team. i loved the fact that they had 4 allstars and kobe was getting more hype than jordan already. i f*ckin hated jordan

so for 18 years now i've been fallowing this team


i'm a fan of wilt, west, baylor, magic, kareem, worthy and even shaq


i just don't like when anyone other than kareem or magic are mentioned in the same breath as kobe cause i feel theyre the only 2 lakers with comparable careers

theres no rule that says i have to suck every lakers c*ck and put all of them including gasol over kobe

sorry i wont do it. me saying gasol is a boarderline hall of famer and SPIT without kobe isnt anything except me telling the truth

[Cocaine80s]

wrong

i've been a die hard laker fan since i was in grade 8 during the 97-98 season

i had both original oldschool #8 champion jerseys

kids were sayin "whos kobe o'brian?

i was in canada. so bare in mind there wasnt allot of press for kobe up here yet

but i knew who kobe was since the dunk contest. became a casual fan of the lakers cause i rooted for shaq in the 95 and 96 playoffs. he was popular at the time and i hated jordan. so naturally i went for the 2nd biggest name

when the 98 allstar game happened. i decided LA would be my official team. i loved the fact that they had 4 allstars and kobe was getting more hype than jordan already. i f*ckin hated jordan

so for 18 years now i've been fallowing this team


i'm a fan of wilt, west, baylor, magic, kareem, worthy and even shaq


i just don't like when anyone other than kareem or magic are mentioned in the same breath as kobe cause i feel theyre the only 2 lakers with comparable careers

theres no rule that says i have to suck every lakers c*ck and put all of them including gasol over kobe

sorry i wont do it. me saying gasol is a boarderline hall of famer and SPIT without kobe isnt anything except me telling the truth
so if kobe retires next year will you keep watching the Lakers as they rebuild?

[kennethgriffin]

so if kobe retires next year will you keep watching the Lakers as they rebuild?

i watched the lakers rebuilding for the past 4 years with little or no chance at winning a title. why would it stop after kobes officially retired. he's basically already done since the lakers wont compete within the next 2 seasons. so if i wasnt a real laker fan i would have already moved on by now wouldnt i?

[Cocaine80s]

i watched the lakers rebuilding for the past 4 years with little or no chance at winning a title. why would it stop after kobes officially retired. he's basically already done since the lakers wont compete within the next 2 seasons. so if i wasnt a real laker fan i would have already moved on by now wouldnt i?
2011-2013 Lakers were rebuilding? Or do you mean Kobe wasnt playing so everything else is irrelevant

[kennethgriffin]

2011-2013 Lakers were rebuilding? Or do you mean Kobe wasnt playing so everything else is irrelevant

think of it this way


i stuck with the lakers even after 2004


with kobe getting shat on by the media

with the lakers having 11 new guys and kobe being a broken down injured accused rapist

and even while seeing miami win the title


any other bandwaggon rider would have jumped ship to the heat

i know a few guys that did it


but i stuck with it. even with allot of doubt on kobe by the world

that was before we saw any god like 80+ or even 60+ games

this was before the goat potential was even seen.

i stuck with LA in 05 for LA. not for kobe

[Marchesk]

Griff doesn't give a f**k about the Lakers, other players, or the NBA in general. He exclusively cares about Kobe and only Kobe.

Dude needs an intervention. That's just not healthy.

[Cold soul]

Durant has the potential to be the greatest scorer of all time IMo. Once he develops a post game and builds a stronger core/foundation, he might become unstoppable.

I just don't see it. I think Durant will go down as one of the greatest scorers in NBA history, but the best ever? That's highly unlikely I can't see him being as complete scoring wise as say a MJ, Wilt, Kobe, and Kareem sorry. Top 5 is very possible though no doubt about it.

[NZStreetBaller]

Lebrons game is carried heavily by his athleticism.

as a big dude (Muscle wise) he'll slow down alot sooner then kobe and MJ. and lose alot of his leaping ability and explosiveness.

Kareem abdul jabbar was just huge and very skilled. and with that skyhook. :bowdown: Plus in his later years he had one of the best point guards in nba history in Magic johnson.

Karl Malone was big and muscular and had John stockton. (the all time assist leader) which was a major factor to him being 2nd on the all time scoring list.

lebron doesnt have nearly as much of the scoring skills as kobe or MJ nor the size of malone or kareem.

So once he loses his ability to run fast breaks or barrel through everybody and just dunk over everyone. Hes not going to have great footwork or shooting ability to fall back on.

The one thing he does have going for him. is a great head start

[SexSymbol]

Keneth is like the dubeta of Kobe fans
and dubeta is like Keneth of LeBron fans

[livingby3's]

I just don't see it. I think Durant will go down as one of the greatest scorers in NBA history, but the best ever? That's highly unlikely I can't see him being as complete scoring wise as say a MJ, Wilt, Kobe, and Kareem sorry. Top 5 is very possible though no doubt about it.

Durant only going to be 26. Have the stroke, the length, the right role for him to excel as a scorer. I agree he's still rather incomplete at this point, but he still have time to improve, and plenty to add to his game. His game will also translate well as he ages and plays into his 30s. If he keeps up his conditioning and add a few more moves to his arsenal, dude might exceed expectations.

[ImKobe]

Kenneth ethering all Kobe haters in this thread

:kobe:

[Hoopz2332]

LeBron's lowest scoring season since his rookie year has been 26.8 ppg :facepalm


Thats with playing with a 25 ppg Wade and a 19 ppg Bosh. Heck Wade and leBron both averaged 25-26 ppg no problem


I dont see LeBron averaging less than 25 ppg for the next 4-5 years minimum

So in 3-4 years I predict he'll catch Kobe at the age of like 33


When LeBron retires

36000 points 10000 rebounds 10000 assists

GOAT all around stats :applause: :bowdown: :bowdown:

:eek: :bowdown:

[RRR3]

Kenneth ethering all Kobe haters in this thread

:kobe:
You're better than this, bro. Don't give Kenny credit for being a troll