11/22: Manny Pacquiao vs. Chris Algieri for the WBO Welterweight title

[Baller1986]

http://philippinenews.ph/wp-content/uploads/manny-pacquiao-and-chris-algieri1.jpg

http://islandboost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Pacman-Algieri.jpg

I think Algieri is to be a tough opponent for Manny cause Chris is a very skilled counter puncher, and he has the height and reach advantage over Manny Pacquiao.

But Pacquiao still has the experience, and he's still too fast for Chris who's at the prime of his career.

[BigBoss]

Manny Pacquiao by TKO.

[iamgine]

Last fight: Algieri vs Provodnikov

- First title fight
- Algieri down twice in round one.



This doesn't seem like much of an opponent for Manny tbh.

[Patrick Chewing]

Last fight: Algieri vs Provodnikov

- First title fight
- Algieri down twice in round one.



This doesn't seem like much of an opponent for Manny tbh.

You forgot to mention the part where Algieri won that fight.

[BigBoss]

You forgot to mention the part where Algieri won that fight.

Who pissed in your cereal again?

[DonDadda59]

Damn, getting the party started nice and early :oldlol:

Algieri is a high risk, low reward opponent. Pac gains nothing really by beating him, but Chris has the height, reach, and boxing ability to make Manny's night tough. Pac usually destroys taller opponents like Margarito and DLH, but those guys weren't as 'live' as Algieri is coming off his upset win over Provodnikiov. I wouldn't be surprised though if it ends up looking like Pac-Clottey once Algieri realizes he's never seen speed like that before and becomes shell-shocked.

The fight is going to bomb on US PPV, but Top Rank is banking on the Chinese market coming through. We'll see how that turns out.

[Lebron23]

Fight is less than 9 days to go. Former world champion Byrd said if Algeri boxers smart he can beat Pacquiao.

[L.Kizzle]

Manny should win. If Chris win, Manny can forget about the Mayweather fight which I believe will be coming in September of next year.

But it's been said Manny is moving down to 140 to fight Jesse Vargas next, lol.

[BigBoss]

Fight is less than 9 days to go. Former world champion Byrd said if Algeri boxers smart he can beat Pacquiao.

This fight is basically what would go down if me and you ever fought.

Me being Pacquiao.

You being Algieri.

[SCREWstonRockets]

I'm starting to like this Algeri kid. Still lives at home in his parents basement and still drives the same car. Very humble up to this point. Even saw some of his past fights (beat Emmanel Augustus more convincing than Broner did).The fight itself is interesting being that it pits the classic puncher vs boxer matchup. I know there will be people who are down on this fight and are like "Chris who?"

But there was also a time when people said Pacman only fights one dimensional brawlers or old, shot fighters. Well in a Algeri, he's fighting a younger, taller counter punching boxer. He has a style that people say would trouble Pacman. Let's not mention he came off a dominating win over undefeated Tim Bradley. All this after getting KTFO and being declared "done" by many. Not going to win over people with this one.

I want to see Manny blast through him and then finally call out Mayweather after the fight in the interview. None of that "I'll let my promoter decide or if the fans want it we can do it" talk. I want him to call out Floyd by his name.

[magic chiongson]

I want to see Manny blast through him and then finally call out Mayweather after the fight in the interview. None of that "I'll let my promoter decide or if the fans want it we can do it" talk. I want him to call out Floyd by his name.
the floyd fight will only happen if manny wins in a very close fight. if manny loses, everyone will lose interest again. if he dominates a tall & decent boxer/counterpuncher, floyd will be even more scared and will have more excuses. if he barely wins or if algieri gets robbed, floyd will be confident enough to beat manny and might agree to a fight.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

I wish it was on Thanksgiving weekend. Could watch it with cousins then :(

[L.Kizzle]

I have the strangest feeling Allergies will win.

[Fawker]

lose the fight he's done. wins he still rots waiting for a floyd bout.

[BigBoss]

lose the fight he's done. wins he still rots waiting for a floyd bout.

Mayweather is praying that Pacquiao loses and the Cotto-Canelo fight gets made so he doesnt get any backlash for deciding to fight Amir Khan.

[L.Kizzle]

Algieri 7 rounds to 5.

[L.Kizzle]

Allergies came in .2 lbs over weight. He's fine now.

[BigBoss]

Algieri 7 rounds to 5.

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[L.Kizzle]

http://media2.giphy.com/media/V30kc3NnYQfAc/200_s.gif
I predicted Bradley in the 1st fight, Marquez in the 4th fight ...

[Draz]

Any links

[sirkeelma]

Any links

http://firstrowusa.eu/boxing/first-manny-pacquiao-vs-chris-algieri-row56084b

[magic chiongson]

lomachenko is like a slower but slicker pacquiao

[BigBoss]

I predicted Bradley in the 1st fight, Marquez in the 4th fight ...

Looks like your going to break your streak tonight. No way Pacquaio loses. This is ending by TKO

[L.Kizzle]

Looks like your going to break your streak tonight. No way Pacquaio loses. This is ending by TKO
If Provo couldn't knock Allergies out, what makes you think Pacquiao ca? Hasn't had a knock out in 5 years.

[BigBoss]

If Provo couldn't knock Allergies out, what makes you think Pacquiao ca? Hasn't had a knock out in 5 years.

48 hour avy bet?

Me: Pacquia wins by TKO

You: Pacquiao loses


Down?

[L.Kizzle]

48 hour avy bet?

Me: Pacquia wins by TKO

You: Pacquiao loses


Down?
Well, I don't think Pacquiao is gonna lose. He'll win but not by stoppage or a knock out.

I want Allergies to win 7-5, but I don't see it happening really. Pac-Man too good.

[BigBoss]

Well, I don't think Pacquiao is gonna lose. He'll win but not by stoppage or a knock out.

.



Algieri 7 rounds to 5.


:biggums:

[DonDadda59]

Algeria finna get dat ass whooped.

[L.Kizzle]

:biggums:
You didn't quote the second part when I said I wanted Algieri to win like I posted yesterday, but it ain't gonna happen.

[BigBoss]

Here we go ladies!!

LKizzle thinks Pacquiao is going to lose :roll:


Pacquiao 9-3

[FashionIssues]

ass whooping commences soon.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I hope Manny ends up taking a nap in the ring tonight.

Gonna be tough for Algieri, but I'll be rooting for him

[DonDadda59]

I hope Manny ends up taking a nap in the ring tonight.

Gonna be tough for Algieri, but I'll be rooting for him

He's won my respect by coming to the ring with Eric B. and Rakim playing :applause:

Still gonna get busted up doe.

[Fudge]

Any good quality streams out there for a broke n*gga?

[DonDadda59]

Any good quality streams out there for a broke n*gga?

Get a job you bum (http://cdn.livetv.sx/webplayer.php?t=ifr&c=231086&lang=en&eid=272350&lid=231086&ci=670&si=6)

[KNOW1EDGE]

He's won my respect by coming to the ring with Eric B. and Rakim playing :applause:

Still gonna get busted up doe.

Stony Brook alumni!! :rockon:

[L.Kizzle]

That was a slip.

[BigBoss]

That was a slip.

Still lost the round

[IcanzIIravor]

Looks like he isn't even trying against Manny. Good paycheck at least for his post fight career.

[dude77]

algieri

:whatever:

[dude77]

we should be watching pacquiao mayweather .. not this shit

[DonDadda59]

Sick of fighters who show up just to survive. :facepalm

And they expected people to pay $70 for this shit? :oldlol:

[IcanzIIravor]

Sick of fighters who show up just to survive. :facepalm

And they expected people to pay $70 for this shit? :oldlol:

Yeah I never understood that mentality. I understand they may get pressure to let the bigger money maker win, but pride has to come in somewhere to at least make it competitive.

[IcanzIIravor]

LMAO the corner men for Algieri are telling him he is doing great.

[BigBoss]

Algieri 7 rounds to 5.

:roll:

[Draz]

Who's winning I'm not in the mood to watch

[L.Kizzle]

He slipped in a water spot twice. He wasn't hurt from anything.

Ref is obviously on Manny's side. Chris landed shots on the belt, ref stops and said to keep it up.

[IcanzIIravor]

Who's winning I'm not in the mood to watch

Manny, but he is basically fighting a punching bag with slight movement. Glad I didn't pay for this.

[plowking]

Algieri is so bad. Who thought this would be a good idea? :oldlol:

[L.Kizzle]

Manny hits Chris on belt, ref does nothing. Chris looks over to ref and say "c'mon man."

[L.Kizzle]

Algieri is so bad. Who thought this would be a good idea? :oldlol:
Arum.

Hey, Arum is setting up Jesse Vargas vs. Pacquiao next.

[BigBoss]

Ref is obviously on Manny's side. Chris landed shots on the belt, ref stops and said to keep it up.


:roll:

Dawg you don't need anything about boxing

[gts]

probably should have let him out of the cage a bit earlier

[L.Kizzle]

Lol at Chris corner.

"I'm bout to let Chris loose"

1 second later, Chris is down, lol.

[Byobob]

This ref. :facepalm :facepalm

It's like watching Crawford minus the theatrics.

[plowking]

Algieri just threw some of the worst punches I've ever seen in a boxing ring. I'm talking all the way down to amateur ranks.

Good for him though, big paycheck for doing nothing.

[FashionIssues]

ok. no more fighting manny.

[Canelo_Griffin]

Never seen Algieri fight before, does he really suck this much? or did he sell himself?...looks like an amateur in there.

[L.Kizzle]

No wonder Manny wants to go down to 140 and 135. To fiest on these C Level fighters and smaller fighters.

[IcanzIIravor]

"we are exactly where we need to be"
-Algieri's corner

after he gets knocked down twice in the 9th :lol

You know Arum gave them their marching orders. They don't give a **** about Algieri.

[FashionIssues]

trash that fight was trash.

[sirkeelma]

6 KO's so far.

[L.Kizzle]

Never seen Algieri fight before, does he really suck this much? or did he sell himself?...looks like an amateur in there.
He doesn't suck, he has a belt at a lower weight though. He's just fighting Manny Pacqiao.

[sirkeelma]

No wonder Manny wants to go down to 140 and 135. To fiest on these C Level fighters and smaller fighters.
He didn't go down. It's his natural weight class I think.

[bigkingsfan]

Close fight, thought Algieri took it at the end.

[L.Kizzle]

He didn't go down. It's his natural weight class I think.
Arum said he's going down to 140 after tonight, and possibly 135.

Today's fights was at a 144 catch weight.

Jesse Vargas has been the name thrown around for about a month now and Manny's next dance partner. And even fights with 135 champs Mikey Garcia and Terrance Crawford who fights next week.

[Byobob]

Close fight, thought Algieri took it at the end.


I concur. :lol :lol :lol :lol

[masonanddixon]

:roll:

You can tell he's a Mayweather fanboi because he's doing everything to discredit Manny.

Manny made a very good boxer look like an amateur and I am convinced he will beat Mayweather.

[magic chiongson]

"we are exactly where we need to be"
-Algieri's corner

after he gets knocked down twice in the 9th :lol

his coach goes 'we gonna go for a knockout' then algieri goes down

[BigBoss]

Algieri 7 rounds to 5.



LOL

[L.Kizzle]

LOL
On page 2, made this post before the fight even started.


Well, I don't think Pacquiao is gonna lose. He'll win but not by stoppage or a knock out.

I want Allergies to win 7-5, but I don't see it happening really. Pac-Man too good.

Manny is the second best fighter in the world.

[plowking]

So people were saying 1 in 50 odds before the fight?

Watching it, that seems about right.

[FashionIssues]

manny specifically called out floyd so now what?

[masonanddixon]

manny specifically called out floyd so now what?

Floyd needs to fight Bradley and Pacquiao. His resume is pure shit compared to Manny's.

[deja vu]

Never seen Algieri fight before, does he really suck this much? or did he sell himself?...looks like an amateur in there.
He beat Provodnikov who gave Tim Bradley a world of trouble.

[BigBoss]

Chris Algeri's trainer is a fukin joke

"I'm letting you outside the cage"

"He's going to knock him out in the next round"

*cue Algeri getting knocked down*

[L.Kizzle]

You can tell he's a Mayweather fanboi because he's doing everything to discredit Manny.

Manny made a very good boxer look like an amateur and I am convinced he will beat Mayweather.
Mayweather made Canelo look like an amateur, doesn't mean anything. Maidana did better than Canelo vs Floyd and I think Canelo would beat Maidana.

Mayweather made Marquez look like an amateur, and we know what he did to Manny.

Styles make fights.

[masonanddixon]

Mayweather made Canelo look like an amateur, doesn't mean anything. Maidana did better than Canelo vs Floyd and I think Canelo would beat Maidana.

Mayweather made Marquez look like an amateur, and we know what he did to Manny.

Styles make fights.

Manny beat Marquez twice (or 3 times depending on ones perspective).

Mayweather never fights guys he might lose to. He only fights plodders he knows he cannot lose against.

His level of competition compared to Manny's is pathetic.

[Fudge]

"He gon' put him to sleep, just watch" -Algieri's trainer

*Algieri gets knocked down 2 seconds later

LMAO funniest shit i've ever seen. :roll:

[BigBoss]

"He gon' put him to sleep, just watch" -Algieri's trainer

*Algieri gets knocked down 2 seconds later

LMAO funniest shit i've ever seen. :roll:

"I need you to listen to my voice.....we're exactly where we want to be"

:roll:

[plowking]

Manny beat Marquez twice (or 3 times depending on ones perspective).

Mayweather never fights guys he might lose to. He only fights plodders he knows he cannot lose against.

His level of competition compared to Manny's is pathetic.

Mayweather literally has the same opponents as Manny. How are their resumes any different? :oldlol:

Apart from the fact Floyd usually beat these fighters in their top form while Manny fought at some catch weight and coming off a bad run of form.

And Manny has never beat Marquez.

[BigBoss]

Mayweather literally has the same opponents as Manny. How are their resumes any different? :oldlol:

Apart from the fact Floyd usually beat these fighters in their top form while Manny fought at some catch weight and coming off a bad run of form.

And Manny has never beat Marquez.

Mayweather right now won't beat Pacquiao. Maidana was able to hit him with some shots.

[plowking]

Mayweather right now won't beat Pacquiao.

We don't know.

But Floyd is a better boxer at his peak, and in terms of the opponents faced.

[L.Kizzle]

Manny beat Marquez twice (or 3 times depending on ones perspective).

Mayweather never fights guys he might lose to. He only fights plodders he knows he cannot lose against.

His level of competition compared to Manny's is pathetic.
Zab Judah and Corrales, ect were plodders. :biggums:

They've beat mostly the same guys give or take a guy here or there. Many vs Zab in the mid 2000s or Floyd vs. Morales in that same time period those could have happened I guess. But were different weight classes at that time.

Who is someone he might lose too, beside Pacquiao? He'd beat Bradley worse than Pacquiao did. It would look like his match vs. Marquez.

Amir Khan may be his toughest foe currently, but people don't want to see that.

Keith Thurman, he's to wet behind the ears.

He can move up I guess to fight someone at 154. He already beat Canelo. HE could fight Lara, but Lara lost to Canelo.

[BigBoss]

We don't know.

But Floyd is a better boxer at his peak, and in terms of the opponents faced.

Who cares. Lets talk about the future.

Pressure is on Mayweather. If he doesn't take the Pacquiao fight he's ducking. He should have fought him years ago, now he's older and Pacquaio is looking good again.

[raprap]

Manny's a legend. Amazing performance. :bowdown:

[L.Kizzle]

Mayweather right now won't beat Pacquiao. Maidana was able to hit him with some shots.
Maidana cracks harder than Pacquia.

Maidana hit Mayweather with a shot at the end of I think round three in their second fight. And he took it like a champ.

Marquez hits Pacquiao with that same shot in the 6th round of their 4th fight and he's taking a napo for three minutes.

[plowking]

Who cares. Lets talk about the future.

Pressure is on Mayweather. If he doesn't take the Pacquiao fight he's ducking. He should have fought him years ago, now he's older and Pacquaio is looking good again.

I don't see it that way.

Pac knows he lost leverage in terms of money, so now it is a nothing to lose kind of deal for him. If he does fight Mayweather, he still gets the biggest payday of his life.

I still think Amir Khan has the best chance at taking down Mayweather. It is the guy who Mayweather haters should be cheering for in terms of his next opponent.

[Angel Face]

Too easy for Pac. Fight has predictable outcome though. Algieri isn't really that special. His best win was SD win over Provodnikov.

:cheers:

[raprap]

Pac vs Money will never happen. Arum is the reason.

[deja vu]

Pacquiao's resume is better than Mayweather's now.

I don't care about that undefeated record. Pac fought with the best and beat them.

Hall of Famers such as Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, De La Hoya, etc.

Mayweather continues to cherrypick easy fights. Everyone knows he's scared to gamble that unblemished record against an ATG like Pac.

[Beatlezz]

Floyd fans doing work tonight. Showing Mayweather-esque defense in this thread.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B23boLYCMAAOMW8.jpg

:applause:

[Angel Face]

Maidana cracks harder than Pacquia.

Maidana hit Mayweather with a shot at the end of I think round three in their second fight. And he took it like a champ.

Marquez hits Pacquiao with that same shot in the 6th round of their 4th fight and he's taking a napo for three minutes.

Lol. Pac hits harded than Chino. Pac has more snap to his punches.

[raprap]

Floyd fans doing work tonight. Showing Mayweather-esque defense in this thread.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B23boLYCMAAOMW8.jpg

:applause:
:oldlol:

[plowking]

Pacquiao's resume is better than Mayweather's now.

I don't care about that undefeated record. Pac fought with the best and beat them.

Hall of Famers such as Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, De La Hoya, etc.

Mayweather continues to cherrypick easy fights. Everyone knows he's scared to gamble that unblemished record against an ATG like Pac.

Has Mayweather not beat Cotta, De La Hoya and Marquez too? :oldlol:

And Alvarez, Judah, etc?

So why is Pac's record supposedly better?

[magic chiongson]

floyd's not gonna fight pac. i'd like to watch a pacquiao - terence crawford fight @ 140. it's time for him to fight people his own size :lol

[deja vu]

Has Mayweather not beat Cotta, De La Hoya and Marquez too? :oldlol:

And Alvarez, Judah, etc?

So why is Pac's record supposedly better?
Pac fought and beat more Hall of Famers and ATGs than Money May.

C'mon just compare their opposition at Boxrec.

Pac's opposition is superior to Money May's.

Don't know who's the superior fighter head to head though. Until we see them fight.

Anyone who's not a Pac or May fan knows it could go either way.

[L.Kizzle]

Lol. Pac hits harded than Chino. Pac has more snap to his punches.
I think there was a recent poll for which welterweights hit the hardest and Maidana came out on top.

Out of all of Maidana's fights I want to say Mayeather and Khan are the only guys he never dropped.

[L.Kizzle]

Has Mayweather not beat Cotta, De La Hoya and Marquez too? :oldlol:

And Alvarez, Judah, etc?

So why is Pac's record supposedly better?
Them 5 loses and 2 draws tho.

And I'm giving him the first fight with Bradley but taking away a fight with Marquez. So it's still 5 loses.

[deja vu]

Them 5 loses and 2 draws tho.

And I'm giving him the first fight with Bradley but taking away a fight with Marquez. So it's still 5 loses.
Truth is, Pac is fearless and fought with the best of them. Never cared much about undefeated records or something.

Muhammad Ali had several losses and is considered GOAT by many. Roberto Duran had a ton and is more respected than Calzaghe.

It says something that a fighter with 5 losses was fighter of the decade.

Undefeated records don't mean shit. It could mean that he avoided the best or cherry picked his fights.

[L.Kizzle]

this happens after every pacquiao/mayweather fight :lol
I love messing with peoples heads. :oldlol:

But seriously though, Allergies was just main eventing Friday Night Fights this time last year. And he's still the 140 champ, he can go home happy. He'll probably fight on Manny's undercard next year when Manny fights Jesse Vargas.

[magic chiongson]

this happens after every pacquiao/mayweather fight :lol

lebron kobe OTC version

[magic chiongson]

they should've let algieri fight like this back when he was more offensive-minded:

http://youtu.be/x7aHx5wzIn0

[L.Kizzle]

Truth is, Pac is fearless and fought with the best of them. Never cared much about undefeated records or something.

Muhammad Ali had several losses and is considered GOAT by many. Roberto Duran had a ton and is more respected than Calzaghe.

It says something that a fighter with 5 losses was fighter of the decade.

Undefeated records don't mean shit. It could mean that he avoided the best or cherry picked his fights.
He lost his 12th fight, it's pretty hard for him to give a damn about undefeated records when his '0' was gone in his second year of professional boxing.

Well in the decade he won, he only had 1 loss and 2 draws so that's a little better.

Pacquiao is the second best fighter in the world, what else do you want me to say.

[L.Kizzle]

they should've let algieri fight like this back when he was more offensive-minded:

http://youtu.be/x7aHx5wzIn0
Keith Thurman is a kickboxer too?

[magic chiongson]

Keith Thurman is a kickboxer too?

all-around fighter

[oh the horror]

At this point fellas I don't care who you're a fan of but Mayweather and PAC not fighting has become a crime.


Both need to make this happen because it's now become a "thing", a joke, a meme.


It's ridiculous to watch.

[masonanddixon]

Mayweather literally has the same opponents as Manny. How are their resumes any different? :oldlol:

Apart from the fact Floyd usually beat these fighters in their top form while Manny fought at some catch weight and coming off a bad run of form.

And Manny has never beat Marquez.

Manny beat Marquez 3 times.

Beat Morales twice.

Bradley. Bradley would easily be better than anyone Floyd ever fought, A better idea would be to list all the guys Mayweather ducked (extensive and sweeping--he of course never fights anyone who isn't a plodder).

Floyd has one fraud win over Castillo and another that was a draw. He beat a severely weight drained Marquez and got a SD against a de la Hoya who Manny throttled. The guys they both fought, manny beat in far more spectacular fashion.

You're in over your head even when you try to discuss boxing.

[masonanddixon]

Zab Judah and Corrales, ect were plodders. :biggums:

They've beat mostly the same guys give or take a guy here or there. Many vs Zab in the mid 2000s or Floyd vs. Morales in that same time period those could have happened I guess. But were different weight classes at that time.

Who is someone he might lose too, beside Pacquiao? He'd beat Bradley worse than Pacquiao did. It would look like his match vs. Marquez.

Amir Khan may be his toughest foe currently, but people don't want to see that.

Keith Thurman, he's to wet behind the ears.

He can move up I guess to fight someone at 154. He already beat Canelo. HE could fight Lara, but Lara lost to Canelo.

He should fight Bradley.

He's too small to move up and fight guys like GGG or Froch.

If he didn't duck Winky Wright, the Punisher, and a few other guys in his prime I might respect him more. In all honestly Bradley probably has a better resume than does Floyd.

[masonanddixon]

Them 5 loses and 2 draws tho.

And I'm giving him the first fight with Bradley but taking away a fight with Marquez. So it's still 5 loses.

And Mayweather has 1 loss and a draw against Castillo. And many thought he lost to de la Hoya as well.

[Lebron23]

http://i.imgur.com/RVLR63y.gif

Manny was too fast, and too furious for Algeiri.

[Lebron23]

Pacquiao-Algieri punch stats

Pacquiao Algieri
Landed 229 108
Thrown 669 469
Pct 34% 23%

[hateraid]

Allergies :oldlol:
Glad Manny beats them too with no antihistamines

[navy]

Fight was a joke. Boxing these days.

[Rooster]

Has Mayweather not beat Cotta, De La Hoya and Marquez too? :oldlol:

And Alvarez, Judah, etc?

So why is Pac's record supposedly better?

You should stop talking boxing with this kind of remarks.:facepalm Pacquiao took greater risks throughout his career while Floyd avoided all of them like a plague. Have you ever seen Floyd coming in as a underdog in a fight. He is meticulous in picking fighters he can easily beat just like the way he fights.

[BigBoss]

Mayweather right now won't beat Pacquiao. Pacquiao will beat Mayweather then rematch with Marquez would be sweet.

[DonDadda59]

Why did the ref give Algeria a standing 8 count in the 9th? He prevented a potential KO, Pac was going ham on him. Were they fighting under different amateur-like rules? :confusedshrug:

[BrooklynZoo]

Why did the ref give Algeria a standing 8 count in the 9th? He prevented a potential KO, Pac was going ham on him. Were they fighting under different amateur-like rules? :confusedshrug:


saw that too, thought maybe i missed algieri touching the canvas with his glove?

[L.Kizzle]

He should fight Bradley.

He's too small to move up and fight guys like GGG or Froch.

If he didn't duck Winky Wright, the Punisher, and a few other guys in his prime I might respect him more. In all honestly Bradley probably has a better resume than does Floyd.
Winky was like two divisions above him. Williams he probably would have eventually.

Bradley fight would be like the Marquez fight.

[DonDadda59]

saw that too, thought maybe i missed algieri touching the canvas with his glove?

Yeah, then I looked at the video. Still hard to tell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NEccap8TDo

Maybe his glove or knee touched, view is blocked. But still looks like a standing 8.


Winky was like two divisions above him.

Oscar was 3 divisions above Pac when they agreed to fight. Winky was willing to go down 1 division AND offered a rehydration clause (couldn't put on more than 8 lbs after the weigh-in). Floyd ducked the fight, let it go.

[masonanddixon]

Winky was like two divisions above him. Williams he probably would have eventually.

Bradley fight would be like the Marquez fight.

Come on now, Bradley is tough. He beat Marquez with relative ease too. Mayweather may be more skilled but I wouldn't be surprised if he beat Mayweather.

[ArbitraryWater]

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[Draz]

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:roll:

[KNOW1EDGE]

Manny's speed and power was on full display last night. Even vs a guy who is taller, longer and heavier, Pac controlled and dominated the fight. Props to Algieri tho, he had bounce in his step through 12 rounds.

The Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight NEEDS to happen

[plowking]

You should stop talking boxing with this kind of remarks.:facepalm Pacquiao took greater risks throughout his career while Floyd avoided all of them like a plague. Have you ever seen Floyd coming in as a underdog in a fight. He is meticulous in picking fighters he can easily beat just like the way he fights.

I should stop talking boxing, yet you are literally criticizing Floyd for fighting the same fighters Pac has? Yet Pac has somehow taken risks but Floyd hasn't?

You're probably the same guy that said he wouldn't fight Alvarez, then he beat him. He alone is better than anyone either of them have fought in the last 6 years.

Of course he hasn't come in an underdog to fights, because he is the best. I doubt Roy Jones did either while clearing out divisions, or Lennox Lewis for that matter. People talking about him fighting Winky Wright who was at least two divisions above him...

He probably ducked Deontay Wilder in your book too going by criteria. The Klitschko's too.

[magic chiongson]

I love messing with peoples heads. :oldlol:

But seriously though, Allergies was just main eventing Friday Night Fights this time last year. And he's still the 140 champ, he can go home happy. He'll probably fight on Manny's undercard next year when Manny fights Jesse Vargas.

you say that after saying these before the fight


I have the strangest feeling Allergies will win.


Algieri 7 rounds to 5.

[L.Kizzle]

you say that after saying these before the fight
Did you go down a little further in the second page?

I said Pacqiao was going to win.

Did you think I really thought Allergies was going to win? A guy with 8 knockouts in 22 fights? He probably has less power than Paulie Malignaggi. A guy moving up in weight to fight Manny Pacquiao.

He's a nice boxer, but he has no power. Pacman is not Ruslan. Ruslan is a clown who can't do anything when movement is involved.

[magic chiongson]

Did you go down a little further in the second page?

I said Pacqiao was going to win.

Did you think I really thought Allergies was going to win? A guy with 8 knockouts in 22 fights? He probably has less power than Paulie Malignaggi. A guy moving up in weight to fight Manny Pacquiao.

He's a nice boxer, but he has no power. Pacman is not Ruslan. Ruslan is a clown who can't do anything when movement is involved.
sure, you always trash pac before his fights and then trash his opponent after he beats them

[DonDadda59]

People talking about him fighting Winky Wright who was at least two divisions above him...

He probably ducked Deontay Wilder in your book too going by criteria. The Klitschko's too.

Stop being so damn dramatic :oldlol:

What actually happened was Floyd ran his mouth (as he does from time to time) talking slick about fighting Winky. So Winky called his bluff (see: Pacquiao 'take da test'), sent his promoter to Top Rank's office the next morning to work out a deal with Arum, who was Floyd's promoter at the time. They came to an agreement- Winky was fighting at 160 while Floyd was at 140, so Winky agreed to come down to 154 with the added caveat that he would agree to a rehydration clause that wouldn't allow him to put on more than 8 lbs between the weigh in and the actual fight.

Floyd backed out when it came time to sign the contracts. He ducked Winky, plain and simple. And whining about how it's the same thing as Floyd fighting Wilder or the Klits... Pacquiao who was campaigning at 130 (fought once at 135) agreed to fight De La Hoya who was at 154, agreed to fight at 147 with no rehydration clause. Literally the same thing. Only difference is Pacquiao didn't back out last second after talking shit. He was a 2-1 underdog and most people at the time saw the fight as a circus and complete mismatch. Pac handled business that night as we all know now. :pimp:

[L.Kizzle]

Stop being so damn dramatic :oldlol:

What actually happened was Floyd ran his mouth (as he does from time to time) talking slick about fighting Winky. So Winky called his bluff (see: Pacquiao 'take da test'), sent his promoter to Top Rank's office the next morning to work out a deal with Arum, who was Floyd's promoter at the time. They came to an agreement- Winky was fighting at 160 while Floyd was at 140, so Winky agreed to come down to 154 with the added caveat that he would agree to a rehydration clause that wouldn't allow him to put on more than 8 lbs between the weigh in and the actual fight.

Floyd backed out when it came time to sign the contracts. He ducked Winky, plain and simple. And whining about how it's the same thing as Floyd fighting Wilder or the Klits... Pacquiao who was campaigning at 130 (fought once at 135) agreed to fight De La Hoya who was at 154, agreed to fight at 147 with no rehydration clause. Literally the same thing. Only difference is Pacquiao didn't back out last second after talking shit. He was a 2-1 underdog and most people at the time saw the fight as a circus and complete mismatch. Pac handled business that night as we all know now. :pimp:
De La Hoya was drained. I think Pac outweighed him in the fight, lol. DLH was done before the fight. He was done after the Hopkins match really.

The Pac match was just the last straw, coming 18 months after the Mayweather fight. He was a little more fresh and not weight drained in the Mayweather fight.

[DonDadda59]

De La Hoya was drained. I think Pac outweighed him in the fight, lol. DLH was done before the fight. He was done after the Hopkins match really.

The Pac match was just the last straw, coming 18 months after the Mayweather fight. He was a little more fresh and not weight drained in the Mayweather fight.

Post fight excuses. Same that may have been used if Floyd had not ducked a weight drained Winky Wright :oldlol:

Fact is- Pacquiao had been campaigning at 130, fought once at 135 when he agreed to fight De La Hoya who had been at 154. Literally the same exact scenario as Winky-Floyd (with the added rehydration clause). Oscar was the 2-1 betting favorite. Pac whooped him into retirement.

[plowking]

Post fight excuses. Same that may have been used if Floyd had not ducked a weight drained Winky Wright :oldlol:

Fact is- Pacquiao had been campaigning at 130, fought once at 135 when he agreed to fight De La Hoya who had been at 154. Literally the same exact scenario as Winky-Floyd (with the added rehydration clause). Oscar was the 2-1 betting favorite. Pac whooped him into retirement.

Okay, Pac beating a weight drained, IV induced De La Hoya is impressive. Yet nothing Floyd does is impressive. Floyd has ducked everyone, where as Pac hasn't.

You win. Keep fighting about the most redundant topic ever. :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

Okay, Pac beating a weight drained, IV induced De La Hoya is impressive. Yet nothing Floyd does is impressive. Floyd has ducked everyone, where as Pac hasn't.

You win. Keep fighting about the most redundant topic ever. :oldlol:

When did I say any of that? Again, you're acting like a drama queen over the fact that Floyd called out Winky and then ducked him once his hoe card was pulled. :oldlol:

buh buh buh it's like fighting Wlad doe :roll:

[plowking]

When did I say any of that? Again, you're acting like a drama queen over the fact that Floyd called out Winky and then ducked him once his hoe card was pulled. :oldlol:

buh buh buh it's like fighting Wlad doe :roll:

I don't particularly care. :oldlol:

You're the one that loves to argue this redundant shit with just about every Floyd fan on here. I think you're upset Floyd is considered the better fighter, and it will stay that way if they don't fight. Even if they do, Floyd is more than likely winning. :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

I don't particularly care. :oldlol:

You cared enough to make believe Floyd ducking Winky was the same as him not fighting Wlad Klitschko. Stop son. :oldlol:

[plowking]

You cared enough to make believe Floyd ducking Winky was the same as him not fighting Wlad Klitschko. Stop son. :oldlol:

Did Pac duck Broner since Broner called him out and Pac didn't step up? :oldlol:

Floyd is the only guy that is ducking people as soon as a possible fight is mentioned. I'm surprised the traction for Floyd ducking Khan didn't take off, since he changed fights last minute. :oldlol:

[DonDadda59]

Did Pac duck Broner since Broner called him out and Pac didn't step up? :oldlol:

Jesus Christ, just stop already. :facepalm

Floyd called out Winky, Winky sent his promoter to talk directly to Top Rank the next morning. They hashed out a deal and had contracts ready to be signed. Floyd pulled out last minute.

That's a little farther along the process than Maidana's leftovers running his mouth with no one listening.

But I guess I can't expect someone who thinks Floyd ducking Winky Wright is the same as him not fighting Wlad Klitschko to appreciate those nuances. :yaohappy:

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_BWElcszSY

:oldlol:

[D-Wade316]

Sheer domination by Pacquiao. :applause:

[Rooster]

I should stop talking boxing, yet you are literally criticizing Floyd for fighting the same fighters Pac has? Yet Pac has somehow taken risks but Floyd hasn't?

You're probably the same guy that said he wouldn't fight Alvarez, then he beat him. He alone is better than anyone either of them have fought in the last 6 years.

Of course he hasn't come in an underdog to fights, because he is the best. I doubt Roy Jones did either while clearing out divisions, or Lennox Lewis for that matter. People talking about him fighting Winky Wright who was at least two divisions above him...

He probably ducked Deontay Wilder in your book too going by criteria. The Klitschko's too.

See, when you talk about Roy Jones clearing out divisions :facepalm then I could tell what you know about boxing.

There are a lot of fights that people are clamoring for that Floyd avoided.. When Margarito was beating people like he has no regard for human life, Floyd said no thank you and fought Baldomir. When Cotto look invincible and doing a lot of body snatching Floyd retired. When Pacquaio was knocking out people left and right, Floyd got scared thinking the midget is on drugs.

Tim Bradley is better than Canelo. Bradley has fought and beaten more credible fighters.

[plowking]

Tim Bradley is better than Canelo. Bradley has fought and beaten more credible fighters.

Yeah, we're done here. Your points prior to this one were stupid enough, but this is just... :facepalm

Bradley is one of my favourite boxers, and not because he is great at any one particular thing, because he isn't... He is a brawler, who wins fights by making them scrappy. He isn't close to the boxer Canelo is.

[masonanddixon]

Yeah, we're done here. Your points prior to this one were stupid enough, but this is just... :facepalm

Bradley is one of my favourite boxers, and not because he is great at any one particular thing, because he isn't... He is a brawler, who wins fights by making them scrappy. He isn't close to the boxer Canelo is.

lol your description of Bradley is exactly how one would describe Canelo.

Funny you even say that considering he completely outboxed Marquez and didn't need to weight drain him like Floyd.

[masonanddixon]

Truth is, Pac is fearless and fought with the best of them. Never cared much about undefeated records or something.

Muhammad Ali had several losses and is considered GOAT by many. Roberto Duran had a ton and is more respected than Calzaghe.

It says something that a fighter with 5 losses was fighter of the decade.

Undefeated records don't mean shit. It could mean that he avoided the best or cherry picked his fights.

Calzaghe is incredibly underrated. He dominated everyone he fought and some/many boxing purists consider him to be the finest supermiddlweight ever.

[NZStreetBaller]

Calzaghe is incredibly underrated. He dominated everyone he fought and some/many boxing purists consider him to be the finest supermiddlweight ever.

hopkins got robbed. he clearly beat calzaghe. theres a step by step video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyz2cws8LBE&list=PL872F5F521F88C925

[plowking]

lol your description of Bradley is exactly how one would describe Canelo.

Funny you even say that considering he completely outboxed Marquez and didn't need to weight drain him like Floyd.

The hell are you talking about? :oldlol:

Weight drained? Floyd fought him at 144lbs. Weight drained? :oldlol:
Was he fighting at 160lbs before that? Something I miss? :oldlol:

Seriously, let me know what I missed, because I want to know what you consider weight drained. :oldlol:

[masonanddixon]

The hell are you talking about? :oldlol:

Weight drained? Floyd fought him at 144lbs. Weight drained? :oldlol:
Was he fighting at 160lbs before that? Something I miss? :oldlol:

Seriously, let me know what I missed, because I want to know what you consider weight drained. :oldlol:

Looks like I was wrong. Fought above his normal weight. As an aside, does inserting laughing emoticons after every sentence somehow strengthen your argument?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/sep/19/sports/sp-mayweather-marquez19

[masonanddixon]

hopkins got robbed. he clearly beat calzaghe. theres a step by step video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyz2cws8LBE&list=PL872F5F521F88C925

lmao I saw that video before and it always cracks me up.

Joe won 9 rounds, probably 10. And if there were a halfway competent referee and not Joe Cortez, Hopkins would have lost at least 3 points for holding the entire fight.

The only people who think Hopkins actually won the fight are black folk.

[Rooster]

Yeah, we're done here. Your points prior to this one were stupid enough, but this is just... :facepalm

Bradley is one of my favourite boxers, and not because he is great at any one particular thing, because he isn't... He is a brawler, who wins fights by making them scrappy. He isn't close to the boxer Canelo is.

:facepalm :facepalm . How the heck the style of a fighter makes them better with certain fighter.:oldlol: Look at Bradley resume and you compare Canelo resume and it's not even close.

[SCREWstonRockets]

At this point, there is no need to knock either of their careers. They've done enough to where they have nothing left to prove except fight each other. Sure, we can sit here all day and nit pick both of their careers but who gives a ****?

[Rooster]

De La Hoya was drained. I think Pac outweighed him in the fight, lol. DLH was done before the fight. He was done after the Hopkins match really.

The Pac match was just the last straw, coming 18 months after the Mayweather fight. He was a little more fresh and not weight drained in the Mayweather fight.

Everyone became genius after the fact. People thought this fight was a circus and Pacquiao was too small. The same people that believed Pacquaio was too small to handle Juan Diaz, Hatton and Cotto back in the day.

[Rooster]

At this point, there is no need to knock either of their careers. They've done enough to where they have nothing left to prove except fight each other. Sure, we can sit here all day and nit pick both of their careers but who gives a ****?

The only question I have for Floyd apologist is when did Floyd ever beat HOF caliber fighters in their prime. Maybe Canelo. If he has the guts of SRL, then maybe boxing fans have more respect for him. Like if he took that Pacquiao fight after Pacquiao annihilated Cotto instead of getting scared and asking for blood test.

[Crown&Coke]

probably should have let him out of the cage a bit earlier

My favorite part.

"I'm gonna let Chris out of the cage"

bink.... down goes Chris

[DonDadda59]

Algieri 7 rounds to 5.

This is what we do on Sunday nights on Insidehoops :facepalm

[plowking]

Fark I owned a bunch of people in this thread.

[L.Kizzle]

Well, I don't think Pacquiao is gonna lose. He'll win but not by stoppage or a knock out.

I want Allergies to win 7-5, but I don't see it happening really. Pac-Man too good.
You forgot this one doe.

[DonDadda59]

You forgot this one doe.

Covering all the bases. Had your cake and ate it too. Checkmated me for the future. :applause:

[L.Kizzle]

Covering all the bases. Had your cake and ate it too. Checkmated me for the future. :applause:
:oldlol: Posted before the fight began!

[DonDadda59]

:oldlol: Posted before the fight began!

Should've pulled that shit myself.

'Manny's gonna win' in one post then a couple of pages later 'I hope. But Floyd gonna win really'.

Best of both worlds. #DiversifyYourPortfolio :applause:

[plowking]

Are you guys still friends at least?

[L.Kizzle]

Are you guys still friends at least?
I've never met Manny Pacquiao before.

[DonDadda59]

Are you guys still friends at least?

I ain't got no motherf*cking friends :whatever:

[L.Kizzle]

I ain't got no motherf*cking friends :whatever:
Nigha sound like the lead singer from Whodini.

[plowking]

I ain't got no motherf*cking friends :whatever:

We should be BEST friends!