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RidonKs
09-27-2014, 10:07 AM
that is all

NumberSix
09-27-2014, 10:11 AM
I would imagine it has some kind of value in the way of communication skills. Standing up alone in front of your peers and explaining something of interest to you must have some positive effect. Whether it be confidence building or learning to express one's self.

I'm just guessing here, but I'd imagine it has it's benefits.

ZeN
09-27-2014, 10:14 AM
You runnin' out of material RidonKs?

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 10:14 AM
You runnin' out of material RidonKs?
:lol

BasedTom
09-27-2014, 10:18 AM
I don't remember ever having to do this. And if I did I probably presented a stick or a gameboy or something like that.

It seems more like a TV thing than a serious schooling practice.

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 10:22 AM
I don't remember ever having to do this. And if I did I probably presented a stick or a gameboy or something like that.

It seems more like a TV thing than a serious schooling practice.
it happens just very early on

right at the age where kids should be encouraged to practice rudimentary science experiments, they're picking up stuffed animals and presenting to their class what makes the dumb thing special to them. it's retarded.

niko
09-27-2014, 10:57 AM
it happens just very early on

right at the age where kids should be encouraged to practice rudimentary science experiments, they're picking up stuffed animals and presenting to their class what makes the dumb thing special to them. it's retarded.
Because that's a classic either or scenario. Not like you can do both.

Are you high or something? Because that's OK, would make more sense than this thread came out of a sober mind...

KyrieTheFuture
09-27-2014, 11:54 AM
Are you seriously implying that preschoolers should be doing scientific experiments rather than learning how to speak and develop their interests?

NumberSix
09-27-2014, 11:58 AM
Are you seriously implying that preschoolers should be doing scientific experiments rather than learning how to speak and develop their interests?
I think his (sarcastic) implication is something to the effect of there's no point in developing social skills because he inaccurately believes that some us us are arguing that all human behaviour, intellect, etc... in genetic, which of course nobody has ever claimed.

DeuceWallaces
09-27-2014, 12:03 PM
It's important for kids to talk about their interests and speak in front of people. Builds confidence and social skills.

Otherwise they end up as inept losers whose only social and intellectual output is an internet message board (*hint OP*).

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 01:10 PM
show and tell isn't one of the dumbest things we've ever told our kids to do. and i know it has practical benefits. and no i'm not suggesting children should only be exposed to either

but show and tell is literally the most dumbed down version of "let's learn to talk about ourselves and our favourite things" because the favourite thing we wind up choosing as children, at least in my experience and apparently in the experience of basedtom, is typically something that's been sitting in your room for as long as possible. whether its a rock collection or a stuffed animal or a gameboy or a necklace your grandmother gave you or even

now that isn't to say you get nothing from presenting to a large group of borderline strangers the intense emotions that arise when you think about your grandmother's necklace.... if the intense emotions do arise anyway.

but the reason listening to six year olds do show and tell is such a huge bore isn't because the six year olds are idiots. it's because they aren't again TYPICALLY choosing

now this is just a bullshit thought and i haven't conducted any studies on a) the importance kids put on show and tell b) the benefits kids get out of it c) the various alterations you could conceivably make to show and tell, tweaking it if you will, to make it more stimulating (what niko was talking about by saying i'm presenting on either or scenario)

so yes there are social benefits that arise from picking something and talking about it. but the extent of benefits a child can take and the lessons a child can learn by such an activity are hampered by crappy choices of things they don't care about. at least in my opinion that is the case from what my experience has suggested to me.

i am high though as i've been (almost) perpetually for weeks now. it's not a bad thing though.

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 01:30 PM
Otherwise they end up as inept losers whose only social and intellectual output is an internet message board (*hint OP*).
haha my only intellectual outlet is definitely not this messageboard trust me. though i probably should continue to shift my interactions further and further to the real world. but that goes for everybody, not just me.

maybe you're just giving me shit for your own enjoyment which is fine. but i don't think i'm inept or a loser.

as an example of my impassioned quest for new and exciting outlets/inputs for my intellectual endeavours, i just wondered over to a free lunch/music event put on at a soup kitchen a few blocks away. some guys invited me to it on a street an hour earlier. it's part of a program out of some small christian university from a ways away that travels around canada and does charitable work wherever they go (every thursday they said, even though its saturday).

anyway i had a couple long theological conversations with them, mostly students who were in the age range of 19 to 21. really hit it off with them as they asked about the role jesus played in my life and i posed various thought experiments to get them to understand that all of the good deeds they do didn't necessarily originate with the myth of the divine christ who died to absolve our sins and resides in each and every one of us. it was interesting and i'll probably be meeting up with them later. unfortunately they don't drink so i'll need to plan something actually fun shortly after that.

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 01:42 PM
It's important for kids to talk about their interests and speak in front of people. Builds confidence and social skills.

Otherwise they end up as inept losers whose only social and intellectual output is an internet message board (*hint OP*).
btw not to belabour the self adulation but i use insidehoops as much as an outlet for my intellectual interests as you use it as an outlet for your intellectual impatience with the people around you. it's why i presume you're always so negative here... which there's no doubt you are. at least much more of a jerk than you are in real life. i don't see why you have to call me a loser and be all mean about it when i'm just trying to be friendly and nice and make friends with the wonderful souls that enter my sphere of the great ongoing human experiment that we're all a part of each and every one of us so let's all sing cumbaya and make out with each other!

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 01:42 PM
I think his (sarcastic) implication is something to the effect of there's no point in developing social skills because he inaccurately believes that some us us are arguing that all human behaviour, intellect, etc... in genetic, which of course nobody has ever claimed.
this isn't what i'm saying at all nor is this thread meant to be sarcastic in any way.

ace23
09-27-2014, 01:43 PM
People will complain about anything.

RidonKs
09-27-2014, 01:53 PM
People will complain about anything.
:lol

good answer.