View Full Version : You can deliver ONE message for the entire world via time travel...
DwnShft2Xcelr8
09-27-2014, 05:30 PM
What would that message be? And what year would you travel to in order to deliver that message?
Horde of Temujin
09-27-2014, 06:14 PM
White people will destroy the world.
Pretzels will make you thirsty. Before 1991.
KyrieTheFuture
09-27-2014, 06:26 PM
**** her right in the poozy
Bandito
09-27-2014, 06:32 PM
To vote for Hilary...
J Shuttlesworth
09-27-2014, 06:36 PM
I would tell the FBI about the terrorist attack that is going to to take place on 9/11. I would tell them I'm from the future, and know there is going to be an attack. They would then probably interrogate me like crazy and I would go to prison when the attack turns out to be real
RidonKs
09-27-2014, 06:44 PM
love thy neighbour
MavsSuperFan
09-27-2014, 06:46 PM
Keep supplying Chiang Kai Shek's government with weapons and money and help him fight the communists.
If only the KMT still controlled the mainland, sigh, no matter how corrupt the KMT was, they never did anything as bad as the cultural revolution, the communes, the great leap forward, the famine, Backyard steel furnaces, etc
and the KMT evenutally evolved into allowing democracy. So it would be good for the locals too.
zoom17
09-27-2014, 06:47 PM
**** her right in the poozy
:oldlol:
BoogieWoogieMan
09-27-2014, 06:49 PM
We Are All ZeN
RidonKs
09-27-2014, 06:49 PM
We Are All ZeN
:roll:
Pretzels will make you thirsty. Before 1991.
:applause:
Boarder Patrol
09-27-2014, 09:54 PM
Not Penny's Boat
year doesn't matter
Maniak
09-27-2014, 09:58 PM
I'd go back in time and meet Justin Bieber's parents and tell them they're making a huge mistake
like if you only listen to real music!
LOL! upvoted
We Are All ZeN
So say we all!
sundizz
09-27-2014, 10:51 PM
I'd tell Bill,
What do a vending machine and Monica have in common?
They both say insert Bill here.
She's as valuable as a diet soda....just pay for better...your gonna get caught.
to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki you might want to take that vacation you've been planning
Raymone
09-27-2014, 11:31 PM
to the people of Japan on December 6, 1941 you might want to reconsider that cowardly attack in Hawaii and promptly exit this war.
Orlando Magic
09-27-2014, 11:59 PM
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-4529-Fat-Spider-Man-wqDT.gif
macmac
09-28-2014, 02:06 AM
I think messages and warnings could potentially fall on deaf ears. So an equation or a theory or visual representation would be the most helpful to our species.
Maybe a diagram of the human body explaining the function of each body part (brain, heart, veins, lungs, etc.) as well as a brief description of bacteria, germs and viruses, shown across the world during the beginning of the renaissance, would be extremely useful for modern day medicine.
Come back to present day, and the average human being would be living 150yrs+
n00bie
09-28-2014, 08:11 AM
I would tell the FBI about the terrorist attack that is going to to take place on 9/11. I would tell them I'm from the future, and know there is going to be an attack. They would then probably interrogate me like crazy and I would go to prison when the attack turns out to be real
The FBI already knew of the imminent attack of the towers.. So yes.. They would probably lock you up so that you can't notify the public.
Or maybe the attack was the result of you giving them the idea? Maybe after you told them about the terrorist attack on 9/11, they realized that would be a great way to start a war in the Middle East?
Good job, you killed a lot of innocent lives that day.
Random_Guy
09-28-2014, 09:03 AM
Keep supplying Chiang Kai Shek's government with weapons and money and help him fight the communists.
If only the KMT still controlled the mainland, sigh, no matter how corrupt the KMT was, they never did anything as bad as the cultural revolution, the communes, the great leap forward, the famine, Backyard steel furnaces, etc
and the KMT evenutally evolved into allowing democracy. So it would be good for the locals too.
yes and no, as a taiwanese i have a very clear understanding of history. KMT didnt eventually develop into democracy, they were forced into it by the DPP(and even then it was because the president wanted to control power)
MavsSuperFan
09-28-2014, 03:32 PM
yes and no, as a taiwanese i have a very clear understanding of history. KMT didnt eventually develop into democracy, they were forced into it by the DPP(and even then it was because the president wanted to control power)
Still became chose to become a democracy rather than try to use military force to maintain the dictatorship. chiang ching-kuo deserves a lot more credit than you are giving him. He liberalized the country late in his reign, ended marshal law. Also he was in charge when taiwan's economy became successful.
Obviously almost no one (other than extraordinary people) chooses to give up dictatorial power entirely on their own digression (that is just illogical). How hard you fight to maintain your unjustified power is significant. Seriously would you just choose to stop being a king over night with zero pressure? chiang ching-kuo deserves credit for not dissolving the DPP or persecuting its leaders.
Edit: when mainland chinese students tried to ask for more reforms in 1989 the PRC, eventually responded with military force, and crushed the students.
Chiang ching-kuo didnt do that. He had soldiers under his command too. Deng Xiaoping chose the path he could have chosen.
kurple
09-28-2014, 03:54 PM
i would say i'm from the future, maybe use one of two tricks/stories to convince the cavs and pistons FO that i'm legit. and then explain how Mashmelo and Darko is better than LeBron
KevinNYC
09-28-2014, 04:56 PM
Keep supplying Chiang Kai Shek's government with weapons and money and help him fight the communists.
If only the KMT still controlled the mainland, sigh, no matter how corrupt the KMT was, they never did anything as bad as the cultural revolution, the communes, the great leap forward, the famine, Backyard steel furnaces, etc
and the KMT evenutally evolved into allowing democracy. So it would be good for the locals too.
Chiang Kai Shek were not going to win. It's a fantasy that more weapons and more money would have led the KMT to retain power.
It's because they were corrupt and made bad strategic decisions that they lost. They also through bad choices alienated those who should have been allies against Communism.
MavsSuperFan
09-29-2014, 11:01 PM
Chiang Kai Shek were not going to win. It's a fantasy that more weapons and more money would have led the KMT to retain power.
It's because they were corrupt and made bad strategic decisions that they lost. They also through bad choices alienated those who should have been allies against Communism.
Totally disagree the communists were on their knees at one point. It was entirely possible for the KMT to win. In fact it is a minor miracle (in that it was unlikely, not that Mao Zedong was a good guy) the red army won the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_March
The Long March (October 1934-October 1935) was a military retreat undertaken by the Red Army of the Communist Party of China, the forerunner of the People's Liberation Army, to evade the pursuit of the Kuomintang (KMT or Chinese Nationalist Party) army.
At one point the red army declined to under 10,000 men.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War
The red army won the Chinese civil war because:
-the 2nd sino-japanese war. In american we know this as a theater of WW2.
the imperial japanese army greatly weakened Chiang's army. Battles like the siege of shanghai, etc greatly weakened the KMT.
-the xi an incident -the kidnapping of Chiang Kai Shek that forced him to make a temporory truce with Mao and the red army and focus on battling Japan.
During the Japanese invasion and occupation of Manchuria, Chiang Kai-shek, who saw the CPC as a greater threat, refused to ally with the CPC to fight against the Imperial Japanese Army. Chiang preferred to unite China by eliminating the warlords and CPC forces first. Chiang believed that he was still too weak to launch an offensive to chase out Japan and that China needed time for a military build-up. Only after unification would it be possible for the KMT to mobilize a war against Japan. So he would rather ignore the discontent and anger among Chinese people at his policy of compromise with the Japanese, and ordered KMT Generals Zhang Xueliang and Yang Hucheng to carry out suppression of the CPC and their provincial forces suffered significant casualties in battles with the Red Army.ref
On December 12, 1936, the disgruntled Zhang Xueliang and Yang Hucheng conspired to kidnap Chiang Kai-shek and then force him into a truce with the CPC. The incident became known as the Xi'an Incident.[35] Both parties suspended fighting to form a Second United Front to focus their energies and fighting against the Japanese.[35] In 1937, Japan launched its full scale invasion of China and its well-equipped troops overran KMT defenders in north and coastal China.
Zhang basically doomed the KMT. had Chiang been allowed to continue his war agaisnt the communists he would have defeated them. in 1937 the red army was on its knees. Zhang was only nominally loyal to Chiang and the nationalist government. He was the largest warlord of the Manchuria region. He was salty the nationalists did not do much to help him after he stood up to the japanese.
China at that time wasnt controlled by one government. Chiang's northern expedication didnt crush every warlord. he made truces with major warlords like Zhang. Zhang forced Chiang to abandon his war against the communists allowing the communists to recover.
Without this interference Mao probably dies with the red army. Chiang felt that Japan was less of a threat than the communists (he was right) china has many times the population of japan. japan would have a lot harder of a time fighting a united china. the nationalists had to deal with communists, independent warlords and the Japanese. later after pearl harbor you could argue that china could do literally nothing and japan would have lost because the US would have defeated japan.
the break from december 22, 1936 to march 31, 1946 is the only reason the red army survived. Chiangs offensive had forced the red army to retreat (the long march)
Hostilities ceased while the Nationalists and Chinese Communists formed a nominal alliance during the Second Sino-Japanese War from 1937 until 1945. During these years, the Chinese Communist Party persevered and strengthened its influence. T
the red army had 7,000 troops at the end of the long march. at the end of WW2 (chiang was forced to stop attacking them) the red army had more than 1,200,000 troops.
- the US stopped providing money and weapons to the KMT (George Marshal thought Chiang was corrupt, which he was, but that is so short sighted). This forced the KMT to demobilize about 2 million troops. these troops were pissed that they were now unemployed and the KMT was badly handling the economy which was suffering hyper inflation. A huge percentage of those former KMT troops went to Mao.
- the yalta conference where we asked the russians to declare war against japan 3 months after then end of the European theater (obviously in retrospect a huge mistake, the nukes would have compelled a japanese surrender)
The USSR did so and smashed the already beaten imperial japanese forces and took manchuria.
The USSR refused to allow KMT troops to take back Manchuria and allowed Mao's communist forces to use the area as a base of operations and allowed Mao to take the weapons of the IJA. thus greatly strengthening Mao's red army.
- later from march 31, 1946 - may 1, 1950 the US did nothing while watching the largest nation on earth fall to communism, and out of our potential sphere of influence.
anytime before Huaihai Campaign and american support would have won the war for Chiang.
Mao winning the chinese civil war imo is the greatest failure of american foreign policy.
- china now is an enemy/rival. the KMT was an ally. we have so many corrupt allies, why geroge marshal couldnt accept the corrupt KMT, I will never understand. I mean we are allied with the house of saud.
- its not outside the realm of possibility for war in the east pacific, between us and the PRC. The KMT would not have opposed american interests.
- north korea would likely not exist, and all of those poor people would get to live under the democratic south.
- chinese support during the vietnam war would likely have been decisive.
- Russia would be less expressionistic with a pro-american china along its south eastern border.
-Also just for the record the KMT was way better than communists. Chiang was way less evil than Mao so chinese people would have benefited too.
Edit: at one point Mao had only 7000 troops under his command. if he had been crushed and killed all of the latter half of the 20th century is changed. and probably the 21st century.
America's position in the world would have been strengthened.
Also china is an assad ally and an iranian ally. KMT controlled china would not be.
and current china is threatening to steal territory from its neighbors.
if china was an american ally, at a minimum we win the korean war (china was the principle opponent) and the vietnam war (chinese support combined with our forces would have crushed Ho Chi Minh
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