Best front court in the league?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Cavs? Bulls?

Cavs have the best player out of the two teams with Love, chi town is better defensively but the gap offensively will heavily favor the Cavs due to Love

Mirotic is a wild card but so is the possibility of the cavs adding another good big

Love & Varejo are going to own the boards, and Love is a top 5 offensive player in the league, so I'm taking the Cavs

Who you got?

[K Xerxes]

You do realise that frontcourt involves the SF position, right? Of which the Cavs have LeBron James?

[ralph_i_el]

You do realise that frontcourt involves the SF position, right? Of which the Cavs have LeBron James?

You realize the Bulls have future-GOAT Doug McBuckets right?

[TheMarkMadsen]

You do realise that frontcourt involves the SF position, right? Of which the Cavs have LeBron James?

It's going to be okay

[navy]

You do realise that frontcourt involves the SF position, right? Of which the Cavs have LeBron James?
You do realize that this was a thinly veiled agenda thread....

[moe94]

You do realize that this was a thinly veiled agenda thread....
:oldlol:

[Cocaine80s]

Lakers










LOL

[TheMarkMadsen]

You do realize that this was a thinly veiled agenda thread....

You got to be insecure af to actualy think/believe this

[Milbuck]

Don't care if SFs are technically in the FC, not counting Lebron, KD, Melo, Kawhi, etc.

Pelicans are up there. Davis, Asik, Ryno, Ajinca..

[Legends66NBA7]

The Clippers.

Matt Barnes/Chris Douglas-Roberts/Reggie Bullock
Blake Griffin/Glen Davis/Hedo Turkoglu
DeAndre Jordan/Spencer Hawes/Ekpe Udoh


Reserves won't play much. Don't know how much time or improvement Bullock well get. Turk will just be there for any shooting the Clippers need. CDR should have a pretty good season with a winning team. The Center trio might be the best in the league.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Don't care if SFs are technically in the FC, not counting Lebron, KD, Melo, Kawhi, etc.

Pelicans are up there. Davis, Asik, Ryno, Ajinca..

Will Asik start? Or will they want to space the floor with Anderson?

[navy]

You got to be insecure af to actualy think/believe this

You got to be dumb af to not even consider all the good front courts in the league.

Blake Griffin and De andre
Davis and Asik
Randolph and Gasol

This nikka really thinks he was slick with it to. :oldlol:

[Milbuck]

Will Asik start? Or will they want to space the floor with Anderson?
Yeah I would think so, Davis has a pretty nice jumper developing. Shouldn't have much problems with spacing. Plus Anderson was hurt last year, they'll probably ease him back.

[Cocaine80s]

You got to be dumb af to not even consider all the good front courts in the league.

Blake Griffin and De andre
Davis and Asik
Randolph and Gasol

This nikka really thinks he was slick with it to. :oldlol:
dude really forgot about the clippers :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

You got to be dumb af to not even consider all the good front courts in the league.

Blake Griffin and De andre
Davis and Asik
Randolph and Gasol

This nikka really thinks he was slick with it to. :oldlol:


Nah you're just being an insecure stan.

So somebody believes that a frontcourt consisting of Love, Varejo, Thompson, Marion and possibly a Roy Hibbert or other solid big is the best in the league and they have an agenda? :lol :lol

Clippers are not as deep as the Bulls or Cavs, Big Baby sucks and Hawes is good for his role but isn't anything more.

[Cocaine80s]

Nah you're just being an insecure stan.

So somebody believes that a frontcourt consisting of Love, Varejo, Thompson, Marion and possibly a Roy Hibbert or other solid big is the best in the league and they have an agenda? :lol
:roll: :roll:

[Milbuck]

:roll: :roll:
Did you intentionally unbold the comma and T in Thompson?

[Cocaine80s]

Did you intentionally unbold the comma and T in Thompson?
lol whats the point of even asking this

i bolded the last part and then bolded verajao after further thought

[navy]

Nah you're just being an insecure stan.

So somebody believes that a frontcourt consisting of Love, Varejo, Thompson, Marion and possibly a Roy Hibbert or other solid big is the best in the league and they have an agenda? :lol

Oh please. Quit thinking we are all as dumb as you.

You already posted that you werent considering SF like Lebron James so dont put Marion in there to bolster your claim.

The Cavs dont even have Roy Hibbert, let's not act like speculation was part of this thread either.

So it comes down to Love, Thompson, and and Varejo. One superstar or star, one scrub, and one wild card in Varejo.

Nothing wrong with thinking that the Cavs have the best front court in the league. Im sure they will be up there.

Just dont act like you werent agenda posting. And then insult the rest of our intelligence by denying it. :oldlol:

[Milbuck]

lol whats the point of even asking this

i bolded the last part and then bolded verajao after further thought
So you're okay with having the comma after Varejao and T in Thompson not bolded?

[Cocaine80s]

So you're okay with having the comma after Varejao and T in Thompson not bolded?
Im on my phone and honestly didnt even notice I did that until you told me

when did you get so an@l about this?

[Legends66NBA7]

So somebody believes that a frontcourt consisting of Love, Varejo, Thompson, Marion and possibly a Roy Hibbert

That's the thing, there is no Roy Hibbert. Talking about their current teams.


And the Clippers are absolutely as deep in the front court. Deep as any team out there.

[navy]

That's the thing, there is not Roy Hibbert. Talking about their current teams.


And Clippers are absolutely as deep in the front court. Deep as any team out there.
How hilarious is it that you have to tell the OP this. Got caught with his hand in his pants and put in Roy Hibbert like he aint make the thread. :roll:

[Milbuck]

Im on my phone and honestly didnt even notice I did that until you told me

when did you get so an@l about this?
Leave **** out of it, I'm just trying to understand your thought process when you ignored the comma after Varejao and T in Thompson when you were bolding parts of his post.

Is this gonna be a regular thing with you, or are you gonna be more careful with how you bold things?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Oh please. Quit thinking we are all as dumb as you.

You already posted that you werent considering SF like Lebron James so dont put Marion in there to bolster your claim.

The Cavs dont even have Roy Hibbert, let's not act like speculation was part of this thread either.

So it comes down to Love, Thompson, and and Varejo. One superstar or star, one scrub, and one wild card in Varejo.

Nothing wrong with thinking that the Cavs have the best front court in the league. Im sure they will be up there.

Just dont act like you werent agenda posting. And then insult the rest of our intelligence by denying it. :oldlol:

did you really just call Tristan Thompson a scrub :roll: :roll:

and do you not realize that Marion had his best years as a PF/C and with Mike Miller/James Jones on the team that Marion fits better as a back up power forward?

stop projecting your insecurities on to everybody else, I mentioned the two teams who I thought had the best front court, do i need to write an essay while mentioning every front court in the league to satisfy you?

[Cocaine80s]

Leave **** out of it, I'm just trying to understand your thought process when you ignored the comma after Varejao and T in Thompson when you were bolding parts of his post.

Is this gonna be a regular thing with you, or are you gonna be more careful with how you bold things?
i get that ur trying to be funny but please just stop already

[Milbuck]

i get that ur trying to be funny but please just stop already
3 responses to call me out on my bullshit. Future negged.

[Cocaine80s]

did you really just call Tristan Thompson a scrub :roll: :roll:

and do you not realize that Marion had his best years as a PF/C and with Mike Miller/James Jones on the team that Marion fits better as a back up power forward?

stop projecting your insecurities on to everybody else, I mentioned the two teams who I thought had the best front court, do i need to write an essay while mentioning every front court in the league to satisfy you?
do you really think Marion will even be playing PF/C on this team?

[Cocaine80s]

3 responses to call me out on my bullshit. Future negged.
cool

[Milbuck]

cool
:applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

How hilarious is it that you have to tell the OP this. Got caught with his hand in his pants and put in Roy Hibbert like he aint make the thread. :roll:

what are you talking about?

my OP clearly states that Hibbert or another solid big going to Cleveland is a wild card considering all the recent rumors and minor cap moves the Cavs had made


you're really trying to make this into something, when it's not even a thing. If you disagree with my opinion thats fine, explain why, mention front courts that i may have overlooked, but to try and turn this into "he's sneak dissing Lebron :cry: :cry: " is really very pathetic

[TheMarkMadsen]

do you really think Marion will even be playing PF/C on this team?

i just explained why i think that in the post you quoted..

[Legends66NBA7]

do you not realize that Marion had his best years as a PF/C

His best years are long gone. That was like 8 years ago when he played time at C.

[Cocaine80s]

OP the answer is the Clipps

Blake
Deandre
Hawes
Davis

[navy]

did you really just call Tristan Thompson a scrub :roll: :roll:

and do you not realize that Marion had his best years as a PF/C and with Mike Miller/James Jones on the team that Marion fits better as a back up power forward?

stop projecting your insecurities on to everybody else, I mentioned the two teams who I thought had the best front court, do i need to write an essay while mentioning every front court in the league to satisfy you?

Yes. In what context is he not a scrub big man?

How many minutes is Marion gonna get at the four with Lebron James and Kevin Love there? Not sure why you put the C. You really think he will get any minutes there?

Dude whatever. The Cavs have the best front court in the league. IDGAF I mean they have Lebron and Love the only relevant players you have mentioned thus far. Well you only mentioned one of them but you get the idea.

[Cocaine80s]

i just explained why i think that in the post you quoted..
and im questioning why you think that lol

How the hell is he gonna be a backup PF behind Love and Thompson?

If he does play PF he wont be doing that much in such limited minutes

[Legends66NBA7]

what are you talking about?

my OP clearly states that Hibbert or another solid big going to Cleveland is a wild card considering all the recent rumors and minor cap moves the Cavs had made

You said solid big, not Hibbert. They just traded Keith Bogans to the Sixers for cap space. I doubt they are going to take on Hibbert's $14,898,938 contract for next season unless they give up something back.

[TheMarkMadsen]

His best years are long gone. That was like 8 years ago when he played time at C.

and i just explained why i think he'll be getting more minutes at PF.. Miller & Jones will be seeing most of the back up SF time.

won't surprise if they roll out a Irving/Miller/Lebron/Marion/Love unit at times to really stretch the floor.

[Legends66NBA7]

Yes. In what context is he not a scrub big man?

Why do you think he's a scrub ? I don't think he's anything good/great and is certainly replaceable/expendable, but he's not a scrub.

[TheMarkMadsen]

You said solid big, not Hibbert. They just traded Keith Bogans to the Sixers for cap space. I doubt they are going to take on Hibbert's $14,898,938 contract for next season unless they give up something back.

is Hibbert anything more than a solid big?

It's not like I said "they could add a solid big, possibly somebody like Dirk"

:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

and Hibbert has been in the rumor mill with the Cavs being a possible suitor

[Legends66NBA7]

and i just explained why i think he'll be getting more minutes at PF.. Miller & Jones will be seeing most of the back up SF time.

won't surprise if they roll out a Irving/Miller/Lebron/Marion/Love unit at times to really stretch the floor.

But he's past his prime and I doubt his body will handle PF for that much time. If anything, LeBron or Love handle PF with lineup.

[Legends66NBA7]

is Hibbert anything more than a solid big?

I don't know, you tell me.

For me, he's a lesser version of Mark Eaton of this era.

[navy]

Why do you think he's a scrub ? I don't think he's anything good/great and is certainly replaceable/expendable, but he's not a scrub.

If we are talking about best in the league he clearly has no place in the discussion. Im not sure if he's a top 50 pf or center. :confusedshrug:

Although no he isnt a total non minute deserving player if you take the word to mean that.

[RedBlackAttack]

Why do you think he's a scrub ? I don't think he's anything good/great and is certainly replaceable/expendable, but he's not a scrub.
Not even close to a scrub. While telling the board what is and is not an "agenda thread," navy consistently posts with a clear agenda. Saying that a 23-year-old guy who has essentially averaged a double-double since he stepped into the NBA is a "scrub" is total hyperbole.

[TheMarkMadsen]

But he's past his prime and I doubt his body will handle PF for that much time. If anything, LeBron or Love handle PF with lineup.

according to basketball reference Marion spent the majority of his minutes at the PF spot in 2013 while logging 30 mpg, assuming his minutes get cut in half this year I think he could handle 14 minutes per game at the PF spot. Thompson will be the back up PF, but will Haywood get real minutes at the back up center? If not, does Thompson run Center for stretches during games?

I don't know, but if Marion isn't playing PF I'd assume they would need to add somebody who will.

[RedBlackAttack]

If we are talking about best in the league he clearly has no place in the discussion. Im not sure if he's a top 50 pf or center. :confusedshrug:

Although no he isnt a total non minute deserving player if you take the word to mean that.
As a member of the Cavaliers' frontcourt, which is being analyzed, he absolutely does have a place in this discussion.

[Legends66NBA7]

according to basketball reference Marion spent the majority of his minutes at the PF spot in 2013 while logging 30 mpg, assuming his minutes get cut in half this year I think he could handle 14 minutes per game at the PF spot

He could play it, but LeBron and Love are better options. So is Thompson at this point.

[navy]

As a member of the Cavaliers' frontcourt, which is being analyzed, he absolutely does have a place in this discussion.

He has a place in the discussion as a member of the Cavs. Not as being a relevant big man. I mean come on now.

Out of this list who would you say Thompson is more valuable than?

Kevin Love
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
Dirk Nowitzki
Brandan Wright
LaMarcus Aldridge
Tim Duncan
Kenneth Faried
Paul Millsap
Serge Ibaka
Jordan Hill
Pau Gaso
David Lee
Terrence Jones
Ryan Anderson
Chris Andersen
James Johnson
Markieff Morris
Zach Randolph
DeMarcus Cousins
Brook Lopez
Al Jefferson
Andre Drummond
Al Horford
Dwight Howard
Nikola Pekovic
Joakim Noah
Chris Bosh
Derrick Favors
Andray Blatche
Nikola Vucevic
Marc Gasol
DeAndre Jordan
John Henson
Robin Lopez
Marcin Gortat
DeJuan Blair
Andrew Bogut
Chris Kaman
Anderson Varejao
Samuel Dalembert
Timofey Mozgov
Gorgui Dieng
Kosta Koufos
Tyson Chandler

Not sure why people take such exception with the word scrub? I dont mean it like he deserves no play time, but honestly he hasnt shown that he is even a name worthy individual. That's my definition of a scrub. Somebody you honestly wouldnt game plan against unless it's to take advantage of.

[Cocaine80s]

He has a place in the discussion as a member of the Cavs. Not as being a relevant big man. I mean come on now.

Out of this list who would you say Thompson is more valuable than?

Kevin Love
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
Dirk Nowitzki
Brandan Wright
LaMarcus Aldridge
Tim Duncan
Kenneth Faried
Paul Millsap
Serge Ibaka
Jordan Hill
Pau Gaso
David Lee
Terrence Jones
Ryan Anderson
Chris Andersen
James Johnson
Markieff Morris
Zach Randolph
DeMarcus Cousins
Brook Lopez
Al Jefferson
Andre Drummond
Al Horford
Dwight Howard
Nikola Pekovic
Joakim Noah
Chris Bosh
Derrick Favors
Andray Blatche
Nikola Vucevic
Marc Gasol
DeAndre Jordan
John Henson
Robin Lopez
Marcin Gortat
DeJuan Blair
Andrew Bogut
Chris Kaman
Anderson Varejao
Samuel Dalembert
Timofey Mozgov
Gorgui Dieng
Kosta Koufos
Tyson Chandler

Not sure why people take such excetion with the word scrub? I dont mean like he deserves no play time, but honestly he would hasnt shown that he is even a name worthy individual. That's my defintion of a scrub. Somebody you honestly wouldnt game plan against unless it's to take advantage of.
i would takt Thompson over the bolded

[navy]

i would takt Thompson over the bolded
I would consider Thompson over:

John Henson
Chris Kaman
Samuel Dalembert
Timofey Mozgov
Kosta Koufos

:confusedshrug:

Chris Anderson is a beast. :coleman:

[RedBlackAttack]

He has a place in the discussion as a member of the Cavs. Not as being a relevant big man. I mean come on now.

Out of this list who would you say Thompson is more valuable than?

Kevin Love
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
Dirk Nowitzki
Brandan Wright
LaMarcus Aldridge
Tim Duncan
Kenneth Faried
Paul Millsap
Serge Ibaka
Jordan Hill
Pau Gaso
David Lee
Terrence Jones
Ryan Anderson
Chris Andersen
James Johnson
Markieff Morris
Zach Randolph
DeMarcus Cousins
Brook Lopez
Al Jefferson
Andre Drummond
Al Horford
Dwight Howard
Nikola Pekovic
Joakim Noah
Chris Bosh
Derrick Favors
Andray Blatche
Nikola Vucevic
Marc Gasol
DeAndre Jordan
John Henson
Robin Lopez
Marcin Gortat
DeJuan Blair
Andrew Bogut
Chris Kaman
Anderson Varejao
Samuel Dalembert
Timofey Mozgov
Gorgui Dieng
Kosta Koufos
Tyson Chandler

Not sure why people take such excetion with the word scrub? I dont mean it like he deserves no play time, but honestly he hasnt shown that he is even a name worthy individual. That's my definition of a scrub. Somebody you honestly wouldnt game plan against unless it's to take advantage of.
Wow. You must have done extensive research on Tristan Thompson to have such a low opinion of him. Generally, when I'm talking about guys I'm not all that familiar with, I try not to make statements too definitively, as they can come back and bite you.

I really don't think you've watched much of Tristan over his first three years, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he is as awful as you say and will play accordingly. We'll find out.

[Legends66NBA7]

If we are talking about best in the league he clearly has no place in the discussion. Im not sure if he's a top 50 pf or center. :confusedshrug:

Although no he isnt a total non minute deserving player if you take the word to mean that.

Top 50 PF/C... Hmmm, I would think he has room. Let's see the starters/reserves at the least for both positions. Bold which you think should be ahead of T.Thompson

Al Jefferson
Al Horford
Amir Johnson
Amare Stoudemire
Anderson Varejao
Andre Drummond
Andrew Bogut
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
Brandon Bass
Brook Lopez
Carlos Boozer
Channing Frye
Chris Bosh
David Lee
David West
DeAndre Jordan
DeMarcus Cousins
Derrick Favors
Dwight Howard
Dirk Nowtizki
Enes Kanter
Ersan Ilyasova
Greg Monroe
Jason Thompson
JaVale McGee
Joakim Noah
Jonas Valanciunas
Jordan Hill
Josh McRoberts
Kelly Olynyk
Kendrick Perkins
Kenneth Faried
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Love
LaMarcus Aldridge
Larry Sanders
Luc Mbah a Moute
Marc Gasol
Marcin Gortat
Markieff Morris
Marvin Williams
Miles Plumlee
Nene
Nerlens Noel
Nikola Pekovic
Nikola Vucevic
Omer Asik
Pau Gasol
Paul Millsap
Robin Lopez
Roy Hibbert
Samuel Dalembert
Serge Ibaka
Terrence Jones
Tim Duncan
Timofey Mozgov
Thaddeus Young
Thiago Splitter
Tyler Zeller
Tyson Chandler
Zach Randolph

[Legends66NBA7]

^Okay, that's pretty funny. :oldlol:

[navy]

Top 50 PF/C... Hmmm, I would think he has room. Let's see the starters/reserves at the least for both positions. Bold which you think should be ahead of T.Thompson

Al Jefferson
Al Horford
Amir Johnson
Amare Stoudemire
Anderson Varejao
Andre Drummond
Andrew Bogut
Anthony Davis
Blake Griffin
Brandon Bass
Brook Lopez
Carlos Boozer
Channing Frye
Chris Bosh
David Lee
David West
DeAndre Jordan
DeMarcus Cousins
Derrick Favors
Dwight Howard
Dirk Nowtizki
Enes Kanter
Ersan Ilyasova
Greg Monroe
Jason Thompson
JaVale McGee
Joakim Noah
Jonas Valanciunas
Jordan Hill
Josh McRoberts
Kelly Olynyk
Kendrick Perkins
Kenneth Faried
Kevin Garnett
Kevin Love
LaMarcus Aldridge
Larry Sanders
Luc Mbah a Moute
Marc Gasol
Marcin Gortat
Markieff Morris
Marvin Williams
Miles Plumlee
Nene
Nerlens Noel
Nikola Pekovic
Nikola Vucevic
Omer Asik
Pau Gasol
Paul Millsap
Robin Lopez
Roy Hibbert
Samuel Dalembert
Serge Ibaka
Terrence Jones
Tim Duncan
Timofey Mozgov
Thaddeus Young
Thiago Splitter
Tyler Zeller
Tyson Chandler
Zach Randolph

The ones unbolded I have never heard of or think they are "scrubs".

[Legends66NBA7]

I forgot about Mason Plumlee too. But I would think that isn't a bad comparison.

[RedBlackAttack]

It's also important to note that where he falls in some random list of players is totally unimportant. More to the point is how he fits on this team and into the system that the Cavaliers devise.

Personally, I think a guy with a great motor who is an excellent rebounder and hustle guy that doesn't need the ball in his hands to have an impact on the game is a very nice piece to have alongside so many prominent scorers/playmakers. Tristan has spent the first three years of his NBA career as one of the focal points of the youngest team in the NBA. He was used in a key role on both ends of the floor.

Now, his role has totally changed. Although I've watched Tristan play every game in his short NBA career, even I feel unequipped to make any firm, concrete statements about how important he will be on this team.

A couple years ago, Boris Diaw was almost out of the NBA completely. Now, people love the guy. He happened to fall into the right role and into the right system that accentuated his strengths and hid his weaknesses.

The same could happen with Tristan... or, maybe not. Again, we'll know soon enough.

One thing I do know for sure... as a 23-year-old guy whose now played three seasons, he is a quality NBA player with room to grow.

[Milbuck]

So Kelly Olynyk and his monstrous 9/5, Zeller with 6/4, and Kendrick "Hakeem" Perkins and his 3ppg this past season aren't scrubs, but TT putting up 12/9 for 2 years straight is?

[navy]

Wow. You must have done extensive research on Tristan Thompson to have such a low opinion of him. Generally, when I'm talking about guys I'm not all that familiar with, I try not to make statements too definitively, as they can come back and bite you.

I really don't think you've watched much of Tristan over his first three years, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he is as awful as you say and will play accordingly. We'll find out.

I've watched him play, failed the eye test. Looked up his basketbal reference. Failed that test. Read articles about him, failed that test as well. Honestly, I dont think there is a bigger average player in the league I have spent more time talking about.

Im sure he wont surprise me. He's probably not going to play enough minutes to change my mind. I'd be willing to bet big money on him being a scrub next year.

[navy]

So Kelly Olynyk and his monstrous 9/5, Zeller with 6/4, and Kendrick "Hakeem" Perkins and his 3ppg this past season aren't scrubs, but TT putting up 12/9 for 2 years straight is?

I'd take them all over TT with the exception of Zeller. (Missed him on the list, he and his brother arent anything special.) I never said they werent all scrubs as well.

And let's face it. You are comparing him to scrubs...

[Cocaine80s]

I've watched him play, failed the eye test. Looked up his basketbal refernce. Failed that test. Read articles about him, failed that test as well. Honestly, I dont think there is a bigger average player in the league I have spent more time talking about.

Im sure he wont surprise me. He's probably not going to play enough minutes to change my mind. I'd be willing to bet big money on him being a scrub next year.
:coleman:

[RedBlackAttack]

I've watched him play, failed the eye test. Looked up his basketbal refernce. Failed that test. Read articles about him, failed that test as well. Honestly, I dont think there is a bigger average player in the league I have spent more time talking about.

Im sure he wont surprise me. He's probably not going to play enough minutes to change my mind. I'd be willing to bet big money on him being a scrub next year.
Oh, I'm certain he won't "surprise" you... in that, if he doesn't do much, you'll say he sucks and if he does do well, you'll say it is because of LeBron.

But, he will be playing extensive minutes next year. That much I can assure you. In fact, the Cavs are kicking around the idea of actually starting Tristan at center and bringing Varejao off the bench.

Jason Lloyd, beat writer for the Cavaliers with the Akron Beacon Journal, started his most recent "23 Thoughts" column like this...


Twenty-three thoughts for the return of No. 23 with the start of training camp just days away…

1. Don’t rule out the possibility of Tristan Thompson starting at center. While it has been widely assumed Anderson Varejao would start in the middle, a theory has been floated within the organization recently that by starting Thompson, coach David Blatt could better limit Varejao’s minutes and help protect him from injury. There is plenty of time to make that final decision, but it’s worth noting the idea has at least been discussed.

2. Regardless of whether he starts, Thompson is expected to play a lot of minutes at center this season. He is undersized there, but athletic enough to handle the job. He has played there off and on throughout his first three years in the league.

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/tristan-thompson-ray-allen-and-nba-s-role-in-deng-report-jason-lloyd-s-final-thoughts-of-summer-1.525012

So, yeah...

[Milbuck]

I'd take them all over TT with the exception of Zeller. (Missed him on the list, he and his brother arent anything special.) I never said they werent all scrubs as well.
Stop it. You would not take Kendrick Perkins over Tristan Thompson, not now, and sure as hell not moving forward. You can still admit you were wrong to call him a scrub, it's really not that big a deal.

[navy]

Oh, I'm certain he won't "surprise" you... in that, if he doesn't do much, you'll say he sucks and if he does do well, you'll say it is because of LeBron.

But, he will be playing extensive minutes next year. That much I can assure you. In fact, the Cavs are kicking around the idea of actually starting Tristan at center and bringing Varejao off the bench.

Jason Lloyd, beat writer for the Cavaliers with the Akron Beacon Journal, started his most recent "23 Thoughts" column like this...



http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/tristan-thompson-ray-allen-and-nba-s-role-in-deng-report-jason-lloyd-s-final-thoughts-of-summer-1.525012

So, yeah...

Do well at what? He's not a scorer. He's not a rim protector. He'll grab rebounds. I think he is a good rebounder. I'll give him that.

This is TT chance to prove me wrong. I'll be watching. :cheers:

[navy]

Stop it. You would not take Kendrick Perkins over Tristan Thompson, not now, and sure as hell not moving forward. You can still admit you were wrong to call him a scrub, it's really not that big a deal.
???

If you are using Kendrick Perkins as an example then you are just proving my point. That is who he is being compared to. :oldlol:

And yes, I really would take him over TT. He is a solid post defender. Which is why he still plays. I wouldnt really care about his bad rebounding on this cavs team.

[Milbuck]

???

If you are using Kendrick Perkins as an example then you are just proving my point. That is who he is being compared to. :oldlol:

And yes, I really would take him over TT.
I didn't bring him up in the first place. I was pointing out something retarded you said...which was that you'd take Kendrick Perkins with his 3ppg and near complete worthlessness over an up and coming young big that is vastly superior both statistically and through the eye test.

[navy]

I didn't bring him up in the first place. I was pointing out something retarded you said...which was that you'd take Kendrick Perkins with his 3ppg and near complete worthlessness over an up and coming young big that is vastly superior both statistically and through the eye test.
There was a list of like 50 names on there. You really think me taking one scrub over another and disagreeing with you really changes that?

Yeah, I would take Perkins over him because he has a valuable skill that the Cavs lack completely. All that tells you is how much I value TT's worth...not at all.

Dude is a no name player playing on a big name team. But excuse me, I cant call him a scrub. I mean you got Perkins, Olynk, and Zeller in the league. No that's just too much. That boy Thompson is the real deal.

[RedBlackAttack]

There was a list of like 50 names on there. You really think me taking one scrub over another and disagreeing with you really changes that?

Yeah, I would take Perkins over him because he has a valuable skill that the Cavs lack completely. All that tells you is how much I value TT's worth...not at all.

Dude is a no name player playing on a big name team. But excuse me, I cant call him a scrub. I mean you got Perkins, Olynk, and Zeller in the league. No that's just too much. That boy Thompson is the real deal.
You can feel free to call him or anyone else a "scrub." Just don't get offended when people call you on your bullsh1t. If you would take Kendrick Perkins over Tristan, it only furthers my point that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to this team.

[navy]

You can feel free to call him or anyone else a "scrub." Just don't get offended when people call you on your bullsh1t. If you would take Kendrick Perkins over Tristan, it only furthers my point that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to this team.

I mean, he's getting comparisons to Perkins, Olynk, Plumlee, and Zeller.

If the shoe fits... :confusedshrug:

[Milbuck]

I mean, he's getting comparisons to Perkins, Olynk, Plumlee, and Zeller.

If the shoe fits... :confusedshrug:
:oldlol:

He wasn't getting compared to them. Legends brought up a list of all the starting and reserve PF/Cs in the league...a list which Olynyk, Perkins, Plumlee, and Zeller were on. Just because you made a dumb point involving Perkins doesn't mean the comparison is actually close at all.

[navy]

:oldlol:

He wasn't getting compared to them. Legends brought up a list of all the starting and reserve PF/Cs in the league...a list which Olynyk, Perkins, Plumlee, and Zeller were on. Just because you made a dumb point involving Perkins doesn't mean the comparison is actually close at all.

He is getting compared to him. How many on that list would you say TT is better than.

If you really wanted to make a point of TT not being a scrub, wouldnt it be better to name players that arent scrubs that he is better than? It's a short list. Practically non existent. Hence why you had to pick out Perkins instead of you know actual quality players. :confusedshrug:

[Smook A.]

Bulls - Joakim Noah/Pau Gasol
Pistons - Andre Drummond/Greg Monroe
Pelicans - Omer Asik/Anthony Davis
Clippers - DeAndre Jordan/Blake Griffin
Hawks - Al Horford/Paul Millsap
Grizzlies - Marc Gasol/Zach Randolph
Rockets - Dwight Howard/Terrence Jones
Blazers - Robin Lopez/LaMarcus Aldridge

These are all some of best frontcourts in the league if you count out small forwards. A future potentially great frontcourt fans really need to keep an eye on is Philly's. Joel Embiid and Nerlens Noel can be dangerous one day.

[Milbuck]

He is getting compared to him. How many on that list would you say TT is better than.

If you really wanted to make a point of TT not being a scrub, wouldnt it be better to name players that arent scrubs that he is better than? It's a short list. Practically non existent. Hence why you had to pick out Perkins instead of you know actual quality players. :confusedshrug:
No he isn't. You are literally the only person in this thread who said he'd take Perkins over Thompson. No one else. There is zero comparisons being made between the two aside from you selecting Perkins from an arbitrary list of players as a guy you'd take over Thompson. Me calling you out on that selection isn't a comparison of the two players, it's just me calling you out on a dumb point.

To exaggerate a bit, that's like me saying I'd take Thabo Sefolosha over Paul George, and using that as justification to say Paul George is a role player. "But he's getting comparisons to Thabo Sefolosha, he's obviously not that good"

The fact of the matter is, putting up 12/9 in back to back years in your SECOND AND THIRD seasons in the NBA clearly doesn't warrant the label of "scrub". When I think scrub, I think of a player that may or may not actually be an NBA-level player, and can be out of the league within a year. Not someone who averages a near double double over 2 seasons with 7-8 years to improve.

[raiderfan19]

Chandler/dirk/parsons deserves a token honorable mention. They are better than some of the others that have been listed

[navy]

No he isn't. You are literally the only person in this thread who said he'd take Perkins over Thompson. No one else. There is zero comparisons being made between the two aside from you selecting Perkins from an arbitrary list of players as a guy you'd take over Thompson. Me calling you out on that selection isn't a comparison of the two players, it's just me calling you out on a dumb point.

To exaggerate a bit, that's like me saying I'd take Thabo Sefolosha over Paul George, and using that as justification to say Paul George is a role player. "But he's getting comparisons to Thabo Sefolosha, he's obviously not that good"

The fact of the matter is, putting up 12/9 in back to back years in your SECOND AND THIRD seasons in the NBA clearly doesn't warrant the label of "scrub". When I think scrub, I think of a player that may or may not actually be an NBA-level player, and can be out of the league within a year. Not someone who averages a near double double over 2 seasons with 7-8 years to improve.

It's a bolded list of 50 players....

To exaggerate a bit? Come on now you jumped the moon and back, at least use a note worthy example. It would be like me picking Thabo Sefolosha over Wesley Johnson. You cant make the jump to Paul George who isnt a role player and is an all star then claim I made some justification like that.

My justification was Perkins is an elite post defender an area where the team lacks ability almost completely over thompson being a good rebounder on a team which has no need for rebounders. A team who has no need for his non existent offense skillset.

Like I said, my definition of a scub is someone who is on a team that you plan you take advantage of and take no account of what they bring to the table.

TT matches that description. Is it harsh? Sure if you take it like that. These are NBA players. Im sure he's not sweating it.

[poido123]

???

If you are using Kendrick Perkins as an example then you are just proving my point. That is who he is being compared to. :oldlol:

And yes, I really would take him over TT. He is a solid post defender. Which is why he still plays. I wouldnt really care about his bad rebounding on this cavs team.


Confirmed idiot right here.

This is why you made my list of the top 10 awful posters on ISH.

You would take Kendricks over TT? Cmon son :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

He is getting compared to him.
No, he's really not.

Cite one valid source directly comparing Tristan Thompson to Zeller, Olynyk and Perkins. TIA

[RedBlackAttack]

Chandler/dirk/parsons deserves a token honorable mention. They are better than some of the others that have been listed
Parsons is more of a SF, but I agree on the others.

[NuggetsFan]

???

If you are using Kendrick Perkins as an example then you are just proving my point. That is who he is being compared to. :oldlol:

And yes, I really would take him over TT. He is a solid post defender. Which is why he still plays. I wouldnt really care about his bad rebounding on this cavs team.

Your sleeping on Thompson was to much. Everytime I've watched him play I've came away thinking he was a less athletic, poor mans version of Faried. He's better than Mozzy and way better than Perkins. Not a guy you'd ideally want playing 31 minutes a night right now but as a rebounding specialist/garbage man he'd be just fine and not a team in the league that wouldn't take that

[andremiller07]

Your sleeping on Thompson was to much. Everytime I've watched him play I've came away thinking he was a less athletic, poor mans version of Faried. He's better than Mozzy and way better than Perkins. Not a guy you'd ideally want playing 31 minutes a night right now but as a rebounding specialist/garbage man he'd be just fine and not a team in the league that wouldn't take that
Not the Mozzy I saw at the end of last year no way

[qrich]

The Clippers.

Matt Barnes/Chris Douglas-Roberts/Reggie Bullock
Blake Griffin/Glen Davis/Hedo Turkoglu
DeAndre Jordan/Spencer Hawes/Ekpe Udoh


Reserves won't play much. Don't know how much time or improvement Bullock well get. Turk will just be there for any shooting the Clippers need. CDR should have a pretty good season with a winning team. The Center trio might be the best in the league.

Forgot Joe Ingles :D

CDR will also end up starting, and I wouldn't doubt it if Doc uses Hawes/Udoh as the backup bigs with Big Baby as a third stringer.

[raiderfan19]

Parsons is more of a SF, but I agree on the others.
Sf is part of the front court even though most people have been just using pf/c

[livingby3's]

Think any team stacked in their front court might be interested in one of Phoenix's guards?