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sportjames23
09-29-2014, 05:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlOCXLt-9DU

:bowdown:

sportjames23
09-29-2014, 05:59 AM
Oh, shit, I didn't remember that alley-oop Pip gave to Shaq over Olajuwon! And David Robinson was laughing about it. LOL

Round Mound
09-29-2014, 06:02 PM
1993-94: Pippen Was Something Special :bowdown:

Lebron23
05-21-2020, 05:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlOCXLt-9DU

:bowdown:

Even in the all star game. Pippen was playing great defense. He drained to back 3 pointers in that game.

Lebron23
05-21-2020, 05:45 PM
1993-94: Pippen Was Something Special :bowdown:

True. He would definitely average Kawhilite numbers in today's nba.

Roundball_Rock
05-21-2020, 05:52 PM
True. He would definitely average Kawhilite numbers in today's nba.

Yeah less scoring but more boards and assists.

ImKobe
05-21-2020, 05:53 PM
Kyrie also won ASG MVP.

L.Kizzle
05-21-2020, 05:57 PM
Talent wise, that was one of the worst All-Star games ever.

You had your regulars at that time like MVP Pippen, Ewing, Olajuwon, Drexler, Robinson, Wilkins, Stockton & Malone etc. Up and comers who'd make many more like Garty Payton and Alonzo Mourning.

You had a bunch of first and only timers like Mookie Blaylock, Kenny Anderson, Derrick Coleman, Charles Oakley and John Starks. The 2nd leading vote getter behind Shaq in the East was get this, BJ ARMSTRONG.

Lebron23
05-21-2020, 05:57 PM
Kyrie also won ASG MVP.
Kyrie is an amazing player. Hopefully he can be a top 5 mvp candidate like Prime Pippen.

ImKobe
05-21-2020, 05:59 PM
Kyrie is an amazing player. Hopefully he can be a top 5 mvp candidate like Prime Pippen.

He outplayed Curry in two straight Finals. What else do you need? When did Pippen ever outplay an MVP-caliber player?

Lebron23
05-21-2020, 06:02 PM
He outplayed Curry in two straight Finals. What else do you need? When did Pippen ever outplay an MVP-caliber player?

Pippen averaged 21/9/8 in his first 3 peat as a 2nd scoring option for the Chicago Bulls. He also out played Drexler in the nba finals aka Jordan's rival.

ImKobe
05-21-2020, 06:05 PM
Pippen averaged 21/9/8 as a 2nd scoring option for the Chicago Bulls. He also out played Drexler in the nba finals.
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False.

Round Mound
05-21-2020, 06:06 PM
PIPPENīs broken down stats. You say he was NOT A TOP 10 PLAYER IN THE 90's? Check This Out

Player Efficiency Rating

1990-91 NBA 20.6 (20th)
1991-92 NBA 21.5 (13th)
1993-94 NBA 23.2 (4th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 22.6 (7th)
1995-96 NBA 21.0 (15th)
1996-97 NBA 21.3 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 20.4 (19th)

Box Plus/Minus

1990-91 NBA 5.8 (10th)
1991-92 NBA 6.1 (6th)
1992-93 NBA 4.0 (14th)
1993-94 NBA 7.7 (3rd)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 7.5 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 6.3 (8th)
1996-97 NBA 5.7 (9th)

Offensive Box Plus/Minus

1990-91 NBA 3.2 (16th)
1991-92 NBA 4.1 (11th)
1993-94 NBA 4.5 (5th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 4.4 (8th)
1995-96 NBA 4.6 (9th)
1996-97 NBA 4.3 (14th)
1997-98 NBA 3.3 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 5.0 (8th)
1999-00 NBA 3.6 (20th)

Defensive Box Plus/Minus

1987-88 NBA 1.3 (19th)
1990-91 NBA 2.5 (7th)
1991-92 NBA 2.0 (12th)
1993-94 NBA 3.2 (5th) *Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 3.0 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 1.7 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 1.6 (19th)
2001-02 NBA 1.6 (14th)
2002-03 NBA 1.6 (19th

Value Over Replacement Player

1990-91 NBA 5.9 (10th)
1991-92 NBA 6.4 (5th)
1992-93 NBA 4.7 (9th)
1993-94 NBA 6.8 (5th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 7.2 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 5.9 (7th)
1996-97 NBA 6.1 (8th)
1999-00 NBA 3.9 (19th)

:confusedshrug:

ImKobe
05-21-2020, 06:08 PM
PIPPENīs broken down stats. You say he was NOT A TOP 10 PLAYER IN THE 90's? Check This Out

Player Efficiency Rating

1990-91 NBA 20.6 (20th)
1991-92 NBA 21.5 (13th)
1993-94 NBA 23.2 (4th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 22.6 (7th)
1995-96 NBA 21.0 (15th)
1996-97 NBA 21.3 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 20.4 (19th)

Box Plus/Minus

1990-91 NBA 5.8 (10th)
1991-92 NBA 6.1 (6th)
1992-93 NBA 4.0 (14th)
1993-94 NBA 7.7 (3rd)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 7.5 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 6.3 (8th)
1996-97 NBA 5.7 (9th)

Offensive Box Plus/Minus

1990-91 NBA 3.2 (16th)
1991-92 NBA 4.1 (11th)
1993-94 NBA 4.5 (5th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 4.4 (8th)
1995-96 NBA 4.6 (9th)
1996-97 NBA 4.3 (14th)
1997-98 NBA 3.3 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 5.0 (8th)
1999-00 NBA 3.6 (20th)

Defensive Box Plus/Minus

1987-88 NBA 1.3 (19th)
1990-91 NBA 2.5 (7th)
1991-92 NBA 2.0 (12th)
1993-94 NBA 3.2 (5th) *Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 3.0 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 1.7 (17th)
1997-98 NBA 1.6 (19th)
2001-02 NBA 1.6 (14th)
2002-03 NBA 1.6 (19th

Value Over Replacement Player

1990-91 NBA 5.9 (10th)
1991-92 NBA 6.4 (5th)
1992-93 NBA 4.7 (9th)
1993-94 NBA 6.8 (5th)*Without Jordan
1994-95 NBA 7.2 (3rd)
1995-96 NBA 5.9 (7th)
1996-97 NBA 6.1 (8th)
1999-00 NBA 3.9 (19th)

:confusedshrug:

What a weak ass argument. So he was top 10 in PER twice in the decade? Barely top 10 in DBPM either despite you clowns calling him the GOAT defensive player?

Round Mound
05-21-2020, 06:09 PM
What a weak ass argument. So he was top 10 in PER twice in the decade? Barely top 10 in DBPM either despite you clowns calling him the GOAT defensive player?

Donīt get mad and check out the underlined parts when Jordan wasn't around and where Pippen ranked in all those broken down stats...:confusedshrug:

ImKobe
05-21-2020, 06:12 PM
Donīt get mad and check out the underlined parts when Jordan wasn't around and where Pippen ranked in all those broken down stats...:confusedshrug:

Guess what, some of these stats favor higher-usage players. 1995 Pippen was leading the Bulls to a mediocre season. Their offense tanked without Jordan, despite adding Kukoc and Kerr after 1993.

Roundball_Rock
05-21-2020, 06:39 PM
How insecure are MJ stans?

LeBron23, Kyrie needs to get a MVP vote first. 0 for his career, not even a 5th place vote. :lol


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False.

It isn't false.

Pippen was 21/9/8, 21/9/7, 21/8/8 in half his finals.

Pippen outplayed Drexler, Ewing, Price, Miller, Stockton in series to name a few.


Their offense tanked without Jordan

Not as bad as without Pippen... :roll:

ImKobe
05-21-2020, 06:42 PM
Not as bad as without Pippen... :roll:

Who was the better offensive player? Jordan or Pippen?

Roundball_Rock
05-21-2020, 06:46 PM
The facts. Compare the decline when MJ left to when Pippen was out (the decline without Pippen is greater). The Bulls went from 5 to 2 without MJ but from 8 to 1 without Pippen (then up to 6 with him back). They needed Pippen to "direct the offense" as Phil Jackson said and to get his teammates the ball and good shots so everyone is involved (as Kerr among others has spoken about). Basketball is not a 1 man sport.

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