View Full Version : Kevin Durant can't palm a basketball
JerrySeinfeld
09-29-2014, 05:04 PM
https://twitter.com/darnellmayberry/status/516688454315704320
MP.Trey
09-29-2014, 05:08 PM
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/07/30/1226438/243495-kevin-durant.jpg
How the f*ck could he not palm a ball? :wtf:
You mean like this?
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUP8nAOIIAAZAUi.jpg
Cold soul
09-29-2014, 05:11 PM
You mean like this?
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUP8nAOIIAAZAUi.jpg
Lol
/thread
Rake2204
09-29-2014, 05:16 PM
Perhaps he was referencing palming the ball reliably at any given moment during a game (like Michael Jordan or Julius Erving). Many can stuff their mitt and palm informally but cannot trust the security of such a maneuver in a game situation.
I am just kind of grasping at straws here.
Natureland
09-29-2014, 05:26 PM
I wonder if KD comes to media day each year with some random lie/half-truth to confuse the reporters.
"I'm 6'7"
"I'm 240 pounds"
"I can't palm a basketball"
"Getting Perk more shots in the offense could really get us over the hump"
AboutBuckets
09-29-2014, 05:26 PM
Perhaps he was referencing palming the ball reliably at any given moment during a game (like Michael Jordan or Julius Erving). Many can stuff their mitt and palm informally but cannot trust the security of such a maneuver in a game situation.
I am just kind of grasping at straws here.
Only person in the past 5 years (other than bigs like Marc Gasol looking for an outlet) I've seen do the MJ type of thing is Lance, started doing it alot more this past season
AboutBuckets
09-29-2014, 05:27 PM
I wonder if KD comes to media day each year with some random lie/half-truth to confuse the reporters.
"I'm 6'7"
"I'm 240 pounds"
"I can't palm a basketball"
"Getting Perk more shots in the offense could really get us over the hump"
:roll: :cheers:
oarabbus
09-29-2014, 05:30 PM
Supposedly Shawn Kemp couldn't either
20Four
09-29-2014, 05:32 PM
Perhaps he was referencing palming the ball reliably at any given moment during a game (like Michael Jordan or Julius Erving). Many can stuff their mitt and palm informally but cannot trust the security of such a maneuver in a game situation.
I am just kind of grasping at straws here.
You are right mang! Makes sense, as we can see from the picture above he can palm the ball....not just with the same authority as jordan or irving as you said...but he can palm the ball...heck even I can palm the ball....
Rake2204
09-29-2014, 05:35 PM
Only person in the past 5 years (other than bigs like Marc Gasol looking for an outlet) I've seen do the MJ type of thing is Lance, started doing it alot more this past seasonI think Kawhi Leonard is in the same area code as Michael Jordan in the palming regard (though not quite as well, nor used as often). Ditto Walter Herrmann.
Supposedly Shawn Kemp couldn't eitherI believe that. Well, I bet he could stuff it into his mitt and occasionally palm (like I was referencing in my first post) but likely could not do it readily and in the heat of the moment. I actually think that probably helped him from a dunking aesthetic standpoint. Most of his slams were full body excursions as opposed settling for straight armed Statue of Liberties.
Cocaine80s
09-29-2014, 06:02 PM
You mean like this?
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUP8nAOIIAAZAUi.jpg
obviously used glue for this pic
OldSchoolBBall
09-29-2014, 09:05 PM
Palming is not only about the size of one's hands, but also the strength of one's hands/fingers.
ralph_i_el
09-29-2014, 09:14 PM
I'm only 6' and I can palm most basketballs. I don't believe this. I feel like I've seen him palm it in game.
BIZARRO
10-01-2014, 12:10 AM
He might mean how Kobe once referred to it. Kobe- "I can palm a basketball, but I can't palm palm a basketball". Then he mentioned how MJ and Doc could "palm palm a basketball", using that term again, meaning at anytime with absolute control.
Rake2204
10-01-2014, 12:46 AM
He might mean how Kobe once referred to it. Kobe- "I can palm a basketball, but I can't palm palm a basketball". Then he mentioned how MJ and Doc could "palm palm a basketball", using that term again, meaning at anytime with absolute control.Right on.
A lot of us could likely palm a ball if it's thrown to us in a non game situation and we had an opportunity concentrate and execute our widest grip, unobstructed by outside influences. But the number of folks who could palm a ball at a moment's notice, with great ease, in the midst of a competitive basketball game would be greatly reduced by comparison.
It seems like I tend to observe a couple of different tiers of palming:
1) Super Palms: Jordan, Erving, Herrmann
2) Very comfortable and reliable palms: Pippen, Leonard, maybe Vince Carter
3) Occasional Palms (Guys in the open floor who are sometimes able to take that extra time to stuff it firmly into the strong hand for a rare palm dunk): LeBron James
4) Never Palms (Guys who have virtually zero chance of palming a ball during a game, perhaps because they cannot palm a ball, period): Chris Paul, Jason Richardson
Richardson, specifically, has been seen palming a basketball before, but only when he was in a position where he had the time to stuff it in there to begin with, and didn't have to worry about dribbling or anything else on his run up to the hoop. This barely palm would not allow him to ever try to go the palm route in an in-game situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTM5u-Iu-x0#t=6m5s
raiderfan19
10-01-2014, 01:07 AM
Vince carter is as good as anyone since Jordan at palming a ball.
Rake2204
10-01-2014, 01:10 AM
Vince carter is as good as anyone since Jordan at palming a ball.Yeah, perhaps he belongs in that top tier. I think it's just that so many of his best dunks do not seem to utilize the super palm, it kind of throws me off. But I think you're right, I can think of a lot of palming situations for Carter, both dunking and not.
SyRyanYang
10-01-2014, 01:44 AM
Honorable mentions: Rondo, Tmac
Living Being
10-01-2014, 05:00 AM
Tim Duncan palms all the time.
2swift4u
10-01-2014, 05:50 AM
there are a lot of palms but obviously none in OKC :D
andremiller07
10-01-2014, 07:18 AM
Maybe he means during a game, most people outside of the game can palm the ball sometimes at least but it's different during full speed with sweat and things like that.
JerrySeinfeld
10-03-2014, 07:44 PM
Maybe he means during a game, most people outside of the game can palm the ball sometimes at least but it's different during full speed with sweat and things like that.
I just looked it up and he said he cant palm it period. There is one pic of him in high school doing it but he said the balls werent fully inflated when he was asked about it.
ILLsmak
10-04-2014, 12:15 AM
You mean like this?
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUP8nAOIIAAZAUi.jpg
lol I'm less than 6 feet tall, small hands [edit: I guess not small in comparison to my tiny ass body] but decent str and grip, and I can palm balls like that. If you keep trying you can palm a ball. But if you shake your hand or if someone touches the ball and it comes loose what use is that in a bball game?
I think it's actually harder than people think to really palm a bball cuz there are plenty of guys in the NBA who supposedly can't do it. They said Nique couldn't.
-Smak
Rake2204
10-04-2014, 12:37 AM
I just looked it up and he said he cant palm it period. There is one pic of him in high school doing it but he said the balls werent fully inflated when he was asked about it.Just for the sake of curiosity, could you link the exact quote? It blows my mind to think that a 6'10'' guy like Durant absolutely could not palm a ball, even off the court for a split second. Even one of the most unpalmiest dunkers I've seen (Jason Richardson), could still stuff it into his mitt for a few seconds at the 2002 Dunk Contest (during his forced, Wheel-induced free throw line attempt).
smoovegittar
10-04-2014, 12:09 PM
Ewing couldn't - small hands. Jordan has HUGE hands; he held that ball like no one's business.
Hoopz2332
10-04-2014, 01:38 PM
Right on.
A lot of us could likely palm a ball if it's thrown to us in a non game situation and we had an opportunity concentrate and execute our widest grip, unobstructed by outside influences. But the number of folks who could palm a ball at a moment's notice, with great ease, in the midst of a competitive basketball game would be greatly reduced by comparison.
It seems like I tend to observe a couple of different tiers of palming:
1) Super Palms: Jordan, Erving, Herrmann
2) Very comfortable and reliable palms: Pippen, Leonard, maybe Vince Carter
3) Occasional Palms (Guys in the open floor who are sometimes able to take that extra time to stuff it firmly into the strong hand for a rare palm dunk): LeBron James
4) Never Palms (Guys who have virtually zero chance of palming a ball during a game, perhaps because they cannot palm a ball, period): Chris Paul, Jason Richardson
LBJ palms the ball all of the time
http://i.minus.com/iEJ5dRpvbcUex.gif
KObe too although his hands are smaller than even wade's
http://thehoopdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/koberaja.jpg
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0601/nba_a_pachea_cr_576.jpg
KobesFinger
10-04-2014, 02:04 PM
Right on.
A lot of us could likely palm a ball if it's thrown to us in a non game situation and we had an opportunity concentrate and execute our widest grip, unobstructed by outside influences. But the number of folks who could palm a ball at a moment's notice, with great ease, in the midst of a competitive basketball game would be greatly reduced by comparison.
It seems like I tend to observe a couple of different tiers of palming:
1) Super Palms: Jordan, Erving, Herrmann
2) Very comfortable and reliable palms: Pippen, Leonard, maybe Vince Carter
3) Occasional Palms (Guys in the open floor who are sometimes able to take that extra time to stuff it firmly into the strong hand for a rare palm dunk): LeBron James
4) Never Palms (Guys who have virtually zero chance of palming a ball during a game, perhaps because they cannot palm a ball, period): Chris Paul, Jason Richardson
Richardson, specifically, has been seen palming a basketball before, but only when he was in a position where he had the time to stuff it in there to begin with, and didn't have to worry about dribbling or anything else on his run up to the hoop. This barely palm would not allow him to ever try to go the palm route in an in-game situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTM5u-Iu-x0#t=6m5s
Where would you put Rondo on that list? His hands are actually bigger than LeBron's somehow, and he used to do some ridiculous ball fakes on the go
Rake2204
10-04-2014, 02:14 PM
LBJ palms the ball all of the time
http://i.minus.com/iEJ5dRpvbcUex.gif
That LeBron James gif is actually exactly what I was referring to when I said, "Guys in the open floor who are sometimes able to take that extra time to stuff it firmly into the strong hand for a rare palm dunk."
The majority of James' dunks do not feature that statue palm. He tends to be a swing-ball-back-and-hammer guy. But every now and again, when he has an opportunity to stabilize the ball with his offhand to make sure the palm sticks (as he does in that gif above), he'll pull off one of those types.
Usually, the hand is near the back of the ball for LeBron (and most of us who dunk without palming).
http://i31.tinypic.com/akfitx.jpg
Occasionally, perhaps most famously when he dunked on Tim Duncan, the time is right and he has a moment to palm, put the ball on a platter, then rise, with the palming hand more closely positioned near the bottom of the ball.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MRhcUnrUEiA/hqdefault.jpg
I think that's largely why it's a touch easier for those who can readily palm a ball to dunk. The ball can be raised higher with a palming of the rock, whereas non-palms require a little more elevation to account for the hand placement.
CavaliersFTW
10-04-2014, 02:25 PM
You guys think Lebron can palm a ball with regularity? James Worthy, Connie Hawkins, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving... THOSE are players that palmed a basketball with regularity. Not Lebron. Lebron has to use his off hand to tuck the ball into his grip. Those guys could literally catch a basketball in the air and it would be stuck to their hand like glue then they could flip it around and scoop it in any direction and not get stripped. You have to have gigantic hands with incredibly strong grip to truly palm a basketball on a regular basis like that. Lance Stephenson can sorta do it with regularity. Durant and Lebron can't, they'll get a lucky grip on it sometimes but they can't do it predictably and regularly off of catches and dribbles and they can't whip the ball around and ballfake in different directions.
It's actually weird to me that there aren't more high profile players in the league right now that can palm a ball and use it as a weapon regularly, every generation seemed to used to have several, right now not so much. Royce White could also do it, I could tell the moment I saw him in a Rockets preseason game or w/e and he was just whipping the ball around like a grapefruit but we all know what eventually happened with him.
Kblaze8855
10-04-2014, 02:36 PM
Right on.
A lot of us could likely palm a ball if it's thrown to us in a non game situation and we had an opportunity concentrate and execute our widest grip, unobstructed by outside influences. But the number of folks who could palm a ball at a moment's notice, with great ease, in the midst of a competitive basketball game would be greatly reduced by comparison.
It seems like I tend to observe a couple of different tiers of palming:
1) Super Palms: Jordan, Erving, Herrmann
2) Very comfortable and reliable palms: Pippen, Leonard, maybe Vince Carter
3) Occasional Palms (Guys in the open floor who are sometimes able to take that extra time to stuff it firmly into the strong hand for a rare palm dunk): LeBron James
4) Never Palms (Guys who have virtually zero chance of palming a ball during a game, perhaps because they cannot palm a ball, period): Chris Paul, Jason Richardson
Richardson, specifically, has been seen palming a basketball before, but only when he was in a position where he had the time to stuff it in there to begin with, and didn't have to worry about dribbling or anything else on his run up to the hoop. This barely palm would not allow him to ever try to go the palm route in an in-game situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTM5u-Iu-x0#t=6m5s
Id just like to mention Mark Aguirre:
http://youtu.be/Rvb8ZLbjLGs?t=44s
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-04-2014, 02:47 PM
Id just like to mention Mark Aguirre:
http://youtu.be/Rvb8ZLbjLGs?t=44s
What's up with the shithead music?
Rake2204
10-04-2014, 02:48 PM
Id just like to mention Mark Aguirre:
http://youtu.be/Rvb8ZLbjLGs?t=44sGood stuff. I never really made that connection with Aguirre. I don't recall seeing him do that in Detroit a lot but then again, I didn't exactly live that era firsthand.
Kblaze8855
10-04-2014, 02:49 PM
Fit the theme...except for being about Houston I suppose.
Kblaze8855
10-04-2014, 02:51 PM
Good stuff. I never really made that connection with Aguirre. I don't recall seeing him do that in Detroit a lot but then again, I didn't exactly live that era firsthand.
He did it less on the Pistons. Used the hands more for nasty pump fakes. Less midair moving the ball around.
He did odd looking layups all the time in his prime. Palms it then lays it up kinda...overhand. Just looks funny like Gary Paytons wrong foot layups.
Trollsmasher
10-04-2014, 02:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWmq26wAZQ
Rake2204
10-04-2014, 03:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoWmq26wAZQHe is not palming the ball there. Though, it does make me wonder, have we seen someone definitively palm an alley-oop before? I've seen guys like Jordan occasionally catch a routine chest pass with a one-hand palm (it looks like the ball and their hand are both made of Velcro - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0NoJDJHHc) but I can't think of a lob where that's occurred, unless I'm being obtuse.
Edit: Sidenote, one of the related videos for Jordan's palm catch is... Michael Jordan vs. Martin & Charlie Sheen in 1987, hosted by Dick Van Patton. What a world: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR_PNDy-0KQ
Kblaze8855
10-04-2014, 03:39 PM
Ive seen Wilt palm a lob but it was barely even a highlight. He just caught it facing away from the basket and gently dunked it behind him with the same hand. It may actually have been a shot he just stole.
Hoopz2332
10-04-2014, 07:48 PM
You guys think Lebron can palm a ball with regularity? James Worthy, Connie Hawkins, Michael Jordan, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving... THOSE are players that palmed a basketball with regularity. Not Lebron. Lebron has to use his off hand to tuck the ball into his grip. \
:coleman:
▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube (similar pass but to Big z)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik
LeBron James Dancing Like Michael Jackson vs Joakim Noah - Billie Jean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5NdToDjfk&hd=1
^^1:44 in that video:D
Hoopz2332
10-04-2014, 07:57 PM
http://i.minus.com/iYtaW1fOGdtWO.gif
CavaliersFTW
10-04-2014, 07:59 PM
:coleman:
▶ LeBron James Behind-the-Back Pass to Big Z (10.30.09) - YouTube (similar pass but to Big z)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMMFXA8s8ik
LeBron James Dancing Like Michael Jackson vs Joakim Noah - Billie Jean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX5NdToDjfk&hd=1
^^1:44 in that video:D
Isolated plays won't prove a thing... I've watched Lebron's entire career. It would take Lebron half a season just to get the same amount of "palming" plays that I can watch James Worthy or Connie Hawkins display in one random game, and actually in most games they'll do something Lebron literally just can't even duplicate. Everything I said in that post is still true. He gets an occasional good grip if the seams are just right, or he has to use his off hand to push the ball into his palm. He can't catch the ball and palm it off the dribble or in mid flight with any sort of regularity whatsoever, it is a freak occurrence if or when it happens all.
Guys like Worthy, Erving, Hawkins, Wilt etc whipped the ball around right off a catch like it was super glued to their hand. Lebron doesn't have giant hands, I mentioned players that do have giant hands. This isn't something I just made up to hate on Lebron or to prop up those guys, it's just an honest observation.
Hoopz2332
10-04-2014, 07:59 PM
He is not palming the ball there. Though, it does make me wonder, have we seen someone definitively palm an alley-oop before? I've seen guys like Jordan occasionally catch a routine chest pass with a one-hand palm (it looks like the ball and their hand are both made of Velcro - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0NoJDJHHc) but I can't think of a lob where that's occurred, unless I'm being obtuse.
lebron clearly palms the ball in mid air (3rd replay) on the catch
http://heatbball.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/a11.gif
CavaliersFTW
10-04-2014, 08:01 PM
lebron clearly palms the ball in mid air (3rd replay) on the catch
http://heatbball.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/a11.gif
do you even know what palming is?
Trollsmasher
10-04-2014, 08:04 PM
lebron clearly palms the ball in mid air (3rd replay) on the catch
http://heatbball.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/a11.gif
nah
JimmyMcAdocious
10-04-2014, 08:08 PM
Check out this crazy palm, guys.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/social_assets/cbb/2_2_2013/Mia_vs_NCState/Reggie%20Jackson.gif
Rake2204
10-04-2014, 08:08 PM
lebron clearly palms the ball in mid air (3rd replay) on the catch
http://heatbball.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/a11.gifI mean this in a respectful manner, but I am unsure as to whether you are truly understanding what it means to palm a basketball. It is more than merely touching one's palm on the ball. To "palm" is in reference to having a locked grip on the ball, where if the rock were held upside down, it would still stick to the hand.
Like so:
http://misterirrelevant.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/MrIrrelevanttat.png
The clips you have posted thus far have not been examples of palming a basketball.
This is another example of palming a basketball.
http://i.minus.com/ibzOGx9PPvCrj0.gif
ArbitraryWater
10-04-2014, 08:13 PM
http://i.minus.com/iYtaW1fOGdtWO.gif
that's more like palming..
Cocaine80s
10-04-2014, 08:19 PM
I saw jeremy lin palming the ball from a defender one time. The way MJ did, he then turned it over 5 seconds after though with a shitty pass tho :lol
I always thought he had small hands because of his turn overs
oarabbus
10-04-2014, 08:20 PM
Greg Smith has the largest hands ever measured at the draft combine, 11.25"
http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1357620278.jpg
Overdrive
10-04-2014, 08:27 PM
Greg Smith has the largest hands ever measured at the draft combine, 11.25"
http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1357620278.jpg
Are there measurements for Sabonis?
Ball looked liked a handball in his hands:
http://www.euroleague.net/resourceserver/8272/58f38790-0695-47e7-996f-82678566478f/e45/rglang/en-US/filename/58f.jpg
CavaliersFTW
10-04-2014, 08:31 PM
Greg Smith has the largest hands ever measured at the draft combine, 11.25"
http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1357620278.jpg
Pre-draft combine era Wilt Chamberlains measured 11.5, Wayne Embry a full 12
Hoopz2332
10-04-2014, 09:20 PM
Isolated plays won't prove a thing... I've watched Lebron's entire career. It would take Lebron half a season just to get the same amount of "palming" plays that I can watch James Worthy or Connie Hawkins display in one random game, and actually in most games they'll do something Lebron literally just can't even duplicate. Everything I said in that post is still true. He gets an occasional good grip if the seams are just right, or he has to use his off hand to push the ball into his palm. He can't catch the ball and palm it off the dribble or in mid flight with any sort of regularity whatsoever, it is a freak occurrence if or when it happens all.
Guys like Worthy, Erving, Hawkins, Wilt etc whipped the ball around right off a catch like it was super glued to their hand. Lebron doesn't have giant hands, I mentioned players that do have giant hands. This isn't something I just made up to hate on Lebron or to prop up those guys, it's just an honest observation.
Lebron palms all of the time, it just isn't something he makes a point to highlight. He does alot when passing
Lebron James 44 pts,11 reb,7 ast,,,,season 2006 cavs vs suns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqE-DrcWV6I&hd=1
^^1:06
CavaliersFTW
10-04-2014, 09:26 PM
Lebron palms all of the time, it just isn't something he makes a point to highlight. He does alot when passing
Lebron James 44 pts,11 reb,7 ast,,,,season 2006 cavs vs suns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqE-DrcWV6I&hd=1
^^1:06
You are not listening at all to what I said. Lebron does not and cannot do what the aforementioned players did, because he does not have hands like them. That's not an insult to lebron, he doesn't need defended here I know what he's capable of doing. This is a valid observation. No, he does not palm the ball all the time like worthy, Jordan, Erving, wilt, Hawkins etc, baseball glove sized hands are not one of his physical gifts. He's not "not making a point to highlight" making the ball disappear in his hand like a grapefruit and grab the ball like those guys, he just can't.
Hoopz2332
10-05-2014, 10:05 AM
You are not listening at all to what I said. Lebron does not and cannot do what the aforementioned players did, because he does not have hands like them. That's not an insult to lebron, he doesn't need defended here I know what he's capable of doing. This is a valid observation. No, he does not palm the ball all the time like worthy, Jordan, Erving, wilt, Hawkins etc, baseball glove sized hands are not one of his physical gifts. He's not "not making a point to highlight" making the ball disappear in his hand like a grapefruit and grab the ball like those guys, he just can't.
Im not debating whether or not LBJ can palm the ball like a grapefruit. My point is that HE CAN palm the ball with relative ease. You don't have tohave hands the size of Kawwhi to palm the ball:biggums:
Lebron is clearly palming ball on this 360 dunk
Lebron James Warm-Up Dunks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DIJVyb-uUc&hd=1
more info on his hands size
http://i.imgur.com/LwesYhB.jpg
@ 1:25
LeBron James Dunk Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7rq8lhetLA&hd=1
the guy is almost 7 feet. it's physically impossible for him to NOT be able to palm the ball :facepalm
Hoopz2332
10-05-2014, 10:42 AM
http://www.hiphopstan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/LeBron-James-practice-dunks.jpg
:coleman:
Hoopz2332
10-05-2014, 08:15 PM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2013/12/lebron-james-breakaway-dunk.gif
Hoopz2332
10-06-2014, 10:22 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/768ca73be0d7f47130307a8bd80d92c2/tumblr_mieltleVkU1s2lf81o1_500.gif
anyone consider this a mid air/alley palm considering the control/grip lebron has on the ball?
http://i.imgur.com/4psSDFm.jpg
the one trollmatser posted before
http://i.minus.com/ibhrMHFqRKAs9Y.gif
3ball
10-06-2014, 10:37 AM
lebron can palm it, but not nearly as well as say dr. j, larry bird, andrew bynum, webber, jordan, pippen or duncan for example - those guys palmed it so easily, that they were palming it ALL THE TIME, like on every play that they touched the ball.
you have to understand that some balls are slipperier, inflated smaller or bigger, so i guarantee you that there are many balls lebron CAN'T palm, and many that he can... but even the ones that he can palm, he isn't toying with the ball as a standard like the aforementioned guys.
btw, the first time i saw durant play for 10 seconds, i knew he couldn't palm it... it's something i look for right away because it is a big telltale in the way guys do things out on the court.... and durant actually has really really small hands... it's quite obvious.
chips93
10-09-2014, 01:42 PM
Right on.
A lot of us could likely palm a ball if it's thrown to us in a non game situation and we had an opportunity concentrate and execute our widest grip, unobstructed by outside influences. But the number of folks who could palm a ball at a moment's notice, with great ease, in the midst of a competitive basketball game would be greatly reduced by comparison.
It seems like I tend to observe a couple of different tiers of palming:
1) Super Palms: Jordan, Erving, Herrmann
you werent lying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxJfYbc1w8
Rake2204
10-09-2014, 01:48 PM
you werent lying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMxJfYbc1w8Ha! That's awesome. I was about to say I hadn't seen that clip before, then I realized it was from yesterday. Glad he's still out there putting in work. Here's what his hands look like on a basketball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82iihDAxDLA
And before that clip you posted, this was always my go-to example for in-game usage by Walt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2oc16Vqwsc
oarabbus
10-09-2014, 03:27 PM
Mozgov can palm a basketball though
http://giant.gfycat.com/SnoopySelfreliantCock.gif
Hoopz2332
10-17-2014, 10:52 AM
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http://giant.gfycat.com/NimbleAmusingIcterinewarbler.gif
:lebronamazed:
Hoopz2332
10-17-2014, 10:53 AM
You are not listening at all to what I said. Lebron does not and cannot do what the aforementioned players did, because he does not have hands like them. That's not an insult to lebron, he doesn't need defended here I know what he's capable of doing. This is a valid observation. No, he does not palm the ball all the time like worthy, Jordan, Erving, wilt, Hawkins etc, baseball glove sized hands are not one of his physical gifts. He's not "not making a point to highlight" making the ball disappear in his hand like a grapefruit and grab the ball like those guys, he just can't.
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Trollsmasher
10-17-2014, 10:57 AM
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:lebronamazed:
I'm glad you found this. He does this quite often, but I am too lazy to search for rebounding highlights:lol
Hoopz2332
10-17-2014, 11:03 AM
I'm glad you found this. He does this quite often, but I am too lazy to search for rebounding highlights:lol
yea, Ive seen him do it numerous times but I can't remember the games either.
Hoopz2332
10-17-2014, 11:57 AM
http://i.imgur.com/4eLBFmF.gif
CavaliersFTW
10-17-2014, 12:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4eLBFmF.gif
Seriously, how do you not know what palming the basketball is? That is not palming a basketball.
CavaliersFTW
10-17-2014, 12:38 PM
http://giant.gfycat.com/FaintHoarseBluetickcoonhound.gif
Also not palming a basketball.
Somebody please teach this guy?
Hoopz2332
10-17-2014, 12:40 PM
Also not palming a basketball.
Somebody please teach this guy?
:biggums: :wtf: how is that not palming the ball?:oldlol:
http://i.minus.com/ibzbXZKtCfqoD0.gif
KirbyPls
10-17-2014, 12:44 PM
:biggums: :wtf: how is that not palming the ball?:oldlol:
http://i.minus.com/ibzbXZKtCfqoD0.gif
:pimp:
SugarHill
10-17-2014, 02:15 PM
:biggums: :wtf: how is that not palming the ball?:oldlol:
http://i.minus.com/ibzbXZKtCfqoD0.gif
got em
Trollsmasher
10-17-2014, 02:24 PM
Also not palming a basketball.
Somebody please teach this guy?
predictably does not react to that rebound:kobe:
Cocaine80s
10-17-2014, 03:57 PM
Also not palming a basketball.
Somebody please teach this guy?
so you really just gonna skip over this? :lol
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SugarHill
10-17-2014, 04:00 PM
It's not palming because it's LeBron James
NBAplayoffs2001
10-17-2014, 04:01 PM
Kobe couldn't either until the early 2000s. I think 2003? Takes a lot more strength but definitely doable with some strength training.
Hoopz2332
10-18-2014, 09:09 AM
Lebron palms all of the time, it just isn't something he makes a point to highlight. He does alot when passing
Lebron James 44 pts,11 reb,7 ast,,,,season 2006 cavs vs suns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqE-DrcWV6I&hd=1
^^1:06
another
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RidonKs
10-18-2014, 09:11 AM
I wonder if KD comes to media day each year with some random lie/half-truth to confuse the reporters.
"I'm 6'7"
"I'm 240 pounds"
"I can't palm a basketball"
"Getting Perk more shots in the offense could really get us over the hump"
:lol
Hoopz2332
10-18-2014, 09:16 AM
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Hoopz2332
04-25-2015, 09:39 PM
I thought LBJ couldn't palm the ball:coleman: :oldlol:
LeBron James effortlessly drains full-court shot, should be Browns starting QB
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/lebron-james-drains-full-court-shot-football
KG215
04-25-2015, 09:55 PM
I thought LBJ couldn't palm the ball:coleman: :oldlol:
LeBron James effortlessly drains full-court shot, should be Browns starting QB
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/lebron-james-drains-full-court-shot-football
If you're having to dig up a 6+ month old thread to make a point about a player in which the original thread topic isn't even about, you're way too obsessed with that player.
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