View Full Version : Earth lost 50% of its wildlife in the past 40 years
Nanners
09-30-2014, 12:02 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/29/earth-lost-50-wildlife-in-40-years-wwf
A second index in the new Living Planet report calculates humanity’s “ecological footprint”, ie the scale at which it is using up natural resources. Currently, the global population is cutting down trees faster than they regrow, catching fish faster than the oceans can restock, pumping water from rivers and aquifers faster than rainfall can replenish them and emitting more climate-warming carbon dioxide than oceans and forests can absorb.
The report concludes that today’s average global rate of consumption would need 1.5 planet Earths to sustain it. But four planets would be required to sustain US levels of consumption, or 2.5 Earths to match UK consumption levels.
The fastest decline among the animal populations were found in freshwater ecosystems, where numbers have plummeted by 75% since 1970. “Rivers are the bottom of the system,” said Dave Tickner, WWF’s chief freshwater adviser. “Whatever happens on the land, it all ends up in the rivers.” For example, he said, tens of billions of tonnes of effluent are dumped in the Ganges in India every year.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/programs/biodiversity/elements_of_biodiversity/extinction_crisis/
Our planet is now in the midst of its sixth mass extinction of plants and animals — the sixth wave of extinctions in the past half-billion years. We’re currently experiencing the worst spate of species die-offs since the loss of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. Although extinction is a natural phenomenon, it occurs at a natural “background” rate of about one to five species per year. Scientists estimate we’re now losing species at 1,000 to 10,000 times the background rate, with literally dozens going extinct every day
zoom17
09-30-2014, 12:04 AM
:(
Legends66NBA7
09-30-2014, 12:07 AM
Tigers are endangered. Barbary Lions are extinct in the wild and Lions altogether might reach endangered status too. Polar Bears are losing their habitat because of warmer weather.
I bring up the top predators because they are the most likely to go extinct. Humans already had a massive change of the landscape when they killed off mammoths.
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 12:12 AM
The rest of Earth needs to adapt Chinas one child only policy
Nanners
09-30-2014, 12:17 AM
The whales and dolphins will probably be fine, we got our best people on it
http://mojtv.hr//images/06112177-e2f3-4a3b-b030-a6eb29da3622.jpg
ThePhantomCreep
09-30-2014, 12:31 AM
Genuinely depressing. Any chance of stemming the tide?
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 12:42 AM
Genuinely depressing. Any chance of stemming the tide?
Only by stunting the development of countries outside the USA.
Liberals of course will NEVER have any of that. Obviously theyre willing to turn USA into a third world shit hole bc USA is white and christian and corporate so libs get their satisfaction from ruining that sort of establishment. But try and regulate other countries - even for their own and our own good? - ohh hellll naw. Theyll be back sleepin on wall street again lickety split. Stupid f@ggots.
Of course, the one thing you can count on is that theyre going to complain. Complain about global warming, about resource depletion, pollution.... And then complain about the stupid usa for tryin to stop it gawd those stupid rich white men telling other countries what to do its so inperialist gawd theyre just so stupid im like so smart look how im complaining and trying to be edgy my name is deucewalace.
ThePhantomCreep
09-30-2014, 12:48 AM
Only by stunting the development of countries outside the USA.
Liberals of course will NEVER have any of that. Obviously theyre willing to turn USA into a third world shit hole bc USA is white and christian and corporate so libs get their satisfaction from ruining that sort of establishment. But try and regulate other countries - even for their own and our own good? - ohh hellll naw. Theyll be back sleepin on wall street again lickety split. Stupid f@ggots.
Of course, the one thing you can count on is that theyre going to complain. Complain about global warming, about resource depletion, pollution.... And then complain about the stupid usa for tryin to stop it gawd those stupid rich white men telling other countries what to do its so inperialist gawd theyre just so stupid im like so smart look how im complaining and trying to be edgy my name is deucewalace.
Lol @ right-winger going off topic, bitching about the erosion of his precious white privilege. Take it to st0rmfr0nt dude.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 12:57 AM
Lol @ right-winger going off topic, bitching about the erosion of his precious white privilege. Take it to ********** dude.
Im just telling you what liberals are about. They resent any group or establishment perceived to represent success. This includes the USA even tho many of them live in it, and it includes white people even though many of them are just that.
You think liberals wouldnt literally piss their jammies if the US incentivized third world countries to sterlize women after their first or second child birth? The phone lines for the Daily Show would literally explode, liberals would be rioting in the street on some Ferguson shit. It would be f@ggot pandomonium. These pretentious blowhards would go apeshit apoplectic.
Legends66NBA7
09-30-2014, 12:57 AM
Genuinely depressing. Any chance of stemming the tide?
Donations, volunteering, making communities aware of the situation, etc... is all a good start.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 01:00 AM
Donations, volunteering, making communities aware of the situation, etc... is all a good start.
How is donating or volunteering going to stop overfishing of the oceans?
EARTH HAS TOO MANY PEOPLE NOW.
ThePhantomCreep
09-30-2014, 01:20 AM
Im just telling you what liberals are about. They resent any group or establishment perceived to represent success. This includes the USA even tho many of them live in it, and it includes white people even though many of them are just that.
You think liberals wouldnt literally piss their jammies if the US incentivized third world countries to sterlize women after their first or second child birth? The phone lines for the Daily Show would literally explode, liberals would be rioting in the street on some Ferguson shit. It would be f@ggot pandomonium. These pretentious blowhards would go apeshit apoplectic.
Yes, because there are no successful liberals. :facepalm
Anyway sterilization isn't necessary anymore--fertility rates have dropped tremendously worldwide. This includes developing nations, many which have fertility rates comparable to pure, wholesome, Baby Jesus-fearing US of A.
It took 12 years for Earth's population to hit 6 billion, 13 years to hit 7 billion. That's a clear sign that population growth has slowed, and it will continue slow until the growth rate stops altogether. Then it will drop. Some countries like Japan and Italy are in panic mode over their aging populations.
How is donating or volunteering going to stop overfishing of the oceans?
EARTH HAS TOO MANY PEOPLE NOW.
Genocide it is!
kNIOKAS
09-30-2014, 01:26 AM
Lets resort to lobbyism now, america. That'll do wonders.
RidonKs
09-30-2014, 01:28 AM
Yes, because there are no successful liberals. :facepalm
Anyway sterilization isn't necessary anymore--fertility rates have dropped tremendously worldwide. This includes developing nations, many which have fertility rates comparable to pure, wholesome, Baby Jesus-fearing US of A.
It took 12 years for Earth's population to hit 6 billion, 13 years to hit 7 billion. That's a clear sign that population growth has slowed, and it will continue slow until the growth rate stops altogether. Then it will drop. Some countries like Japan and Italy are in panic mode over their aging populations.
Genocide it is!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
RidonKs
09-30-2014, 01:30 AM
a handy tool (off topic i know) (https://www.google.ca/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_pop_grow&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=sp_pop_grow&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=region:EAS:ECS:LCN:NAC:SAS:SSF:MEA&ifdim=region&tdim=true&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false)
CavaliersFTW
09-30-2014, 01:34 AM
Everyone, we know who's fault this is. Say it with me now:
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/thanks-obama-gif.jpg
http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/thanks-obama-28.gif
tomtucker
09-30-2014, 01:47 AM
The rest of Earth needs to adapt Chinas one child only policy
no doubt, it
CeltsGarlic
09-30-2014, 01:51 AM
yeah, USA could really actually cut down on energy using, and sign the damn Kyoto Protocol
bdreason
09-30-2014, 02:06 AM
The human species is a cancer to the Earth.
masonanddixon
09-30-2014, 05:02 AM
Tasmania is like the only place where wildlife is flourishing now because it got rid of all the miners and industries and has no introduced predators like foxes and cane toads. Queensland and the Reef on the other hand will basically be a trash can by 2030 or so.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 08:38 AM
Yes, because there are no successful liberals. :facepalm
Anyway sterilization isn't necessary anymore--fertility rates have dropped tremendously worldwide. This includes developing nations, many which have fertility rates comparable to pure, wholesome, Baby Jesus-fearing US of A.
It took 12 years for Earth's population to hit 6 billion, 13 years to hit 7 billion. That's a clear sign that population growth has slowed, and it will continue slow until the growth rate stops altogether. Then it will drop. Some countries like Japan and Italy are in panic mode over their aging populations.
Genocide it is!
:facepalm Google the words "population projections" and look at every single result that comes up, from the UN survey to national geographic's estimations. Nobody credible is predicting the population will drop globally anytime in the foreseeable future. You realize in Nigeria the average woman his SIX kids?? And birth rate isnt the only thing affecting population you brilliant man of genius, you. Life expectancy rates climbing in growing countries is also going to impact the demand for already-strained resources.
The Earth is already overburdened right now, look at the figure in the OP. If you think theres time to just "wait it out" for a few centuries and hope nine billion will eventually drop to 8 billion, oh and then back down to 7 billion, yeah now we're getting close! Youre a fukking moron.
Dresta
09-30-2014, 09:10 AM
The rest of Earth needs to adapt Chinas one child only policy
yeah, good idea, lets copy the country that has been the worst offender when it comes to not giving a **** about environmental damage - the country that is constructing masses of new coal plants as we speak!
millwad
09-30-2014, 10:02 AM
It's pretty laughable that we always speak about the car industry and oil when we talk about pollution. The meat industry is by far polluting our world more than anything else.
Meat farming is not something we'll be able to do to this extent in the future, we are over consuming meat like never before, we are ruining the rain forrest to use the land for farm animals and the animals themselves are polluting the air in crazy fashion a la cows and their gas.
We are destroying the earth we're living on and it's scary to think in how short time we've been able to do so. We are over fishing the seas, we are cutting down the rain forrests and we are polluting the world, it's not weird that animals go extinct.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 10:07 AM
It's pretty laughable that we always speak about the car industry and oil when we talk about pollution. The meat industry is by far polluting our world more than anything else.
Meat farming is not something we'll be able to do to this extent in the future, we are over consuming meat like never before, we are ruining the rain forrest to use the land for farm animals and the animals themselves are polluting the air in crazy fashion a la cows and their gas.
We are destroying the earth we're living on and it's scary to think in how short time we've been able to do so. We are over fishing the seas, we are cutting down the rain forrests and we are polluting the world, it's not weird that animals go extinct.
STFU bro, the ONLY problem on this Earth is stupid republicans and their SUVS!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :cry: :banghead: :blah
Complaining about anything else is just RACIST and STUPID, so just stfu, gawd.
millwad
09-30-2014, 10:08 AM
yeah, good idea, lets copy the country that has been the worst offender when it comes to not giving a **** about environmental damage - the country that is constructing masses of new coal plants as we speak!
Coal plants is nothing compared to the meat industry and the country that over-consumes meat the most, by far, in the world is the US.
But yeah, lets act like the Chinese are the bad one's.
millwad
09-30-2014, 10:09 AM
STFU bro, the ONLY problem on this Earth is stupid republicans and their SUVS!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :cry: :banghead: :blah
Complaining about anything else is just RACIST and STUPID, so just stfu, gawd.
Haha, true story, bro.
**** EM SUV's!
millwad
09-30-2014, 10:20 AM
Donations, volunteering, making communities aware of the situation, etc... is all a good start.
Donating to what?
Don't come and say Greenpeace, they are nothing but money loving hypocrites. They want to save the environment but they only campaign for non-"offending" stories.
"Save the planet, don't take long showers"
"Save the planet, turn off the lights"
"Save the planet, walk as much as you can"
That kind of nonsense meanwhile never giving the meat industry a mention, it takes over 400 gallons of water in the "production" of 1 pound of meat. That makes the daily shower look like nothing at all.
Then we have the massive pollution and I won't go on a rant about it, but those kind of organizations are only looking to get as much money as possible without "offending" anyone in the process. They care about the money, not about the nature or the world.
Nowitness
09-30-2014, 10:29 AM
The Planet Isn't Going Anywhere
We Are
Horde of Temujin
09-30-2014, 11:12 AM
White people ruined the world
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 11:20 AM
yeah, good idea, lets copy the country that has been the worst offender when it comes to not giving a **** about environmental damage - the country that is constructing masses of new coal plants as we speak!
China's "One Child Policy" has been a success...after implementing that they took the birth rate down from 2.8 children per woman to 1.4.
Yeah they are horrible offenders when it comes to this subject, that doesn't mean that the "one child only" policy in particular is a bad idea
Dresta
09-30-2014, 11:21 AM
Coal plants is nothing compared to the meat industry and the country that over-consumes meat the most, by far, in the world is the US.
But yeah, lets act like the Chinese are the bad one's.
I think you'll find they are. I take it you've never been to Beijing?
KingBeasley08
09-30-2014, 11:24 AM
China's "One Child Policy" has been a success...after implementing that they took the birth rate down from 2.8 children per woman to 1.4.
Yeah they are horrible offenders when it comes to this subject, that doesn't mean that the "one child only" policy in particular is a bad idea
Sorta but China is also kind of fcked in the future. They have a major problem coming up with a lot of old ass people and not enough new youngsters to replace them. In that sense, the one child policy bit them in the ass
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 11:25 AM
Sorta but China is also kind of fcked in the future. They have a major problem coming up with a lot of old ass people and not enough new youngsters to replace them. In that sense, the one child policy bit them in the ass
why do old people need to be replaced?
there isn't enough room there as it is...
KingBeasley08
09-30-2014, 11:27 AM
why do old people need to be replaced?
there isn't enough room there as it is...
There labor force.. China don't give no fcks about the environment and population control. There number 1 focus is to maintain economic growth
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 11:28 AM
There labor force.. China don't give no fcks about the environment and population control. There number 1 focus is to maintain economic growth
less people to inherit all the "old people's" wealth would be a PLUS to the economy
KingBeasley08
09-30-2014, 11:31 AM
less people to inherit all the "old people's" wealth would be a PLUS to the economy
what?
I'm saying that the size of their labor force will significantly decrease which will HURT their economy. I'm not sure what you said even means lol
Jailblazers7
09-30-2014, 11:31 AM
why do old people need to be replaced?
there isn't enough room there as it is...
An age limit policy would be more beneficial to the planet than a 1 child policy tbh. Keeps earth's population to children and productive adults, institutions become more adaptable because they won't have to cater to the elderly political group, it takes out a huge resource dump for the human population, lots of government money gets freed up to chase environmental initiatives, etc.
Basically, let's just kill all the old people.
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 11:35 AM
what?
I'm saying that the size of their labor force will significantly decrease which will HURT their economy. I'm not sure what you said even means lol
population shrinking should HELP the economy
there is "x-amount" of money in China right now, if that money is handed down to just 1 billion people instead of 5 billion people then that 1 billion will be better off, more money to go around.
It isn't that simple but that is the gist of it...
Nowitness
09-30-2014, 11:51 AM
population shrinking should HELP the economy
there is "x-amount" of money in China right now, if that money is handed down to just 1 billion people instead of 5 billion people then that 1 billion will be better off, more money to go around.
It isn't that simple but that is the gist of it...
What do you think is more important to China. Some 100 year old handing his grandson like $40,000 or his son not having a son and having no one to work the job for the next 40 years?
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 12:11 PM
What do you think is more important to China. Some 100 year old handing his grandson like $40,000 or his son not having a son and having no one to work the job for the next 40 years?
well, the "one child per family" law is in effect there...so that should tell you what is important to China
Jailblazers7
09-30-2014, 12:11 PM
population shrinking should HELP the economy
there is "x-amount" of money in China right now, if that money is handed down to just 1 billion people instead of 5 billion people then that 1 billion will be better off, more money to go around.
It isn't that simple but that is the gist of it...
Think of the problems that people have been screaming about for years with social security and Medicare. Too many boomers retiring and not enough young people replacing them in the workforce to fund social security. Stuff like that happens when the population growth rate changes dramatically over time and the 1-child policy basically forces that to happen.
~primetime~
09-30-2014, 12:17 PM
Think of the problems that people have been screaming about for years with social security and Medicare. Too many boomers retiring and not enough young people replacing them in the workforce to fund social security. Stuff like that happens when the population growth rate changes dramatically over time and the 1-child policy basically forces that to happen.
So the old people suffer from not enough social security? oh well
we're talking about saving the envoirnment here...less people = less pollution
in the last 40 years (thread title) the population has gone from 3.5 Billion to 7.1 Billion...THAT is what needs to change here IMO, we are flooding the Earth with humans
Jailblazers7
09-30-2014, 12:49 PM
So the old people suffer from not enough social security? oh well
we're talking about saving the envoirnment here...less people = less pollution
in the last 40 years (thread title) the population has gone from 3.5 Billion to 7.1 Billion...THAT is what needs to change here IMO, we are flooding the Earth with humans
Yeah, I know but I was just backing up what people are saying about China caring most about their economy. Too many old people and not enough young people is a big problem for a developing country looking to compete with the U.S. economically.
I actually saw an article recently that had a graph of policy that lessened CO2 emission the most and one child policy was like #4. Most of them weren't that successful except for #1 which was the Montreal Protocol.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 02:19 PM
An age limit policy would be more beneficial to the planet than a 1 child policy tbh. Keeps earth's population to children and productive adults, institutions become more adaptable because they won't have to cater to the elderly political group, it takes out a huge resource dump for the human population, lots of government money gets freed up to chase environmental initiatives, etc.
Basically, let's just kill all the old people.
Im not going to agree with the last sentence and Im sure you were being tongue in cheek but the preceding paragraph is definitely true. We can value our elders and support them within reason but there's a point where we have to draw a line and not committ massive economic resources just to stretch their lifespan from 82 to 84, which is the way the current model is functioning. A huge portion of medicare/caid comes during the last year or so of a persons life, often when theyre already terminal. And politicians arent willing to cut them off bc of their voting power and the fact that libf@gs who get emotionally manipulated easily will spazz out.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 02:30 PM
Yeah, I know but I was just backing up what people are saying about China caring most about their economy. Too many old people and not enough young people is a big problem for a developing country looking to compete with the U.S. economically.
I actually saw an article recently that had a graph of policy that lessened CO2 emission the most and one child policy was like #4. Most of them weren't that successful except for #1 which was the Montreal Protocol.
Well the one child policy was never intended to be about the environment, it was basically about keeping the number of mouths to be fed in check as well as making sure China's already questionable urban living conditions didnt turn to complete chaos.
Obviously it's a difficult decision and not without drawbacks of its own but pt is absolutely right about its necessity, they really had NO other choice. The difficulties they now face as a result of 1-child are still far and away the lesser evil of the two options they had.
I remember making a thread about this years ago and of course ridonks was crying like a whiney fakkit about how unfair it is, basically in complete denial of the fact that there is no EASY solution. China did what was necessary instead of what was popular, and ultimately they are in a much better position for it. Its a shame we have so many soft ass pansies in the states who cant understand that concept.
StephHamann
09-30-2014, 02:38 PM
So the old people suffer from not enough social security? oh well
we're talking about saving the envoirnment here...less people = less pollution
in the last 40 years (thread title) the population has gone from 3.5 Billion to 7.1 Billion...THAT is what needs to change here IMO, we are flooding the Earth with humans
"we are" aka shithole countries
http://www.puntlandobserver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PopulationGrowth.bmp
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 02:48 PM
^ Part of that is due to first-world demand for consumption though, which stimulates third world production economies, which increases survival rates and lifespans in those countries.
Preserving the planet is going to require SIGNIFICANT global reform that everyone has to commit to. But countries where people are starving are understandably not going to give fukc about it, and the only way to get them on board is to force them on board. Which of course we know will make liberals shit their pantaloons and crying like infantile f@ggots.
So in the meantime they'll just keep complaining, and hoping their insinuation that it's solely the fault of republican americans driving SUV's is not refuted with facts and logic, because once it is then its time for them to disappear and go cry and whine to someone else who isn't equipped with that information.
KyrieTheFuture
09-30-2014, 02:51 PM
Uhhhhh people who think a shrinking chinese population will lead to a labor shortage really don't understand how many unemployed people are in China
Nanners
09-30-2014, 02:53 PM
^ Part of that is due to first-world demand for consumption though, which stimulates third world production economies, which increases survival rates and lifespans in those countries.
Preserving the planet is going to require SIGNIFICANT global reform that everyone has to commit to. But countries where people are starving are understandably not going to give fukc about it, and the only way to get them on board is to force them on board. Which of course we know will make liberals shit their pantaloons and crying like infantile f@ggots.
So in the meantime they'll just keep complaining, and hoping their insinuation that it's solely the fault of republican americans driving SUV's is not refuted with facts and logic, because once it is then its time for them to disappear and go cry and whine to someone else who isn't equipped with that information.
humanity cant do anything about natural resource depletion or the global species extinction event because of crying liberals.
very compelling argument, as usual.
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 03:03 PM
humanity cant do anything about natural resource depletion or the global species extinction event because of crying liberals.
very compelling argument, as usual.
Not just liberals. There are plenty of non-liberals in America that would rather continue to mine and burn coal because its an important employment sector in their town/region, and they don't want to suffer economic difficulties that would result from halting the practice. The difference is these people aren't complaining or pretending to care more about the environment than everyone else. They'll tell you flat out they're more concerned with putting food on the table than with global warming. They're at least not being hypocrites.
Liberals on the other hand are crying like banshee about the issue, but not taking a single step of their OWN toward resolution. They don't want to have to temper their own consumption habits, and they DEFINITELY will not stand for the US policing other countries on resource/population management. That's where the problem is. Liberals like to pretend that Americans switching to hybrids is going to solve the world's conservation crisis :roll: When in fact that alone won't put the tiniest dent in it. But the problem is they don't have the GUTS to speak out about the solutions that actually do make a difference, because awwww they dont wanna pick on da wittle guy. They are yeast-infected class warriors through and through.
So my point is, that while there are many people who will not get on board, liberals are the only ones annoying enough to keep complaining about it to look cool, while still refusing to get on board.
brandonislegend
09-30-2014, 03:05 PM
This sucks
Akrazotile
09-30-2014, 03:10 PM
This sucks
It does suck, but yo, I dare you to suggest that we should stop breastfeeding places like Africa for the sake of the entire ****ing Earth. Deucewallaces and Realmenweargreen will fukcing petition MSNBC to get Al Sharpton at your door to call you a racist and then Jon Stewart will air the clip and make jokes about it the next day and while the planet continues to suffocate all the liberals in America who are doing nothing about it will at least feel good about themselves because they laughed and applauded from their soapbox when the Daily Show erroneously portrayed you as a racist.
Hooray!
ThePhantomCreep
09-30-2014, 11:37 PM
Im not going to agree with the last sentence and Im sure you were being tongue in cheek but the preceding paragraph is definitely true. We can value our elders and support them within reason but there's a point where we have to draw a line and not committ massive economic resources just to stretch their lifespan from 82 to 84, which is the way the current model is functioning. A huge portion of medicare/caid comes during the last year or so of a persons life, often when theyre already terminal. And politicians arent willing to cut them off bc of their voting power and the fact that libf@gs who get emotionally manipulated easily will spazz out.
Most independents and aging right-wingers would spazz out too, cumstain.
Right-wingers are the definition of "useful idiots", but even they wouldn't go along with cutting off their safety nets.
GimmeThat
10-01-2014, 12:13 AM
imagine the learning curve, and I think it may be safe to say that right now losing 50% in the past 40 years is in the middle of it.
when it reaches to its plateau point, and lets sure hope this doesn't follow the 80/20 rule. can we accumulate enough from that 20 to a point where it reverses the trend from a slow linear into a curve shape.
in way after the "this story seems fake" apparently.
Are people in this thread really blaming the poorest counties while they consume 20 times more??? :biggums:
Not an expert at all but if we want populations in the 2nd/3rd world to match the rates of the 1st world than the amount of extreme poverty needs to be reduced.
Akrazotile
10-01-2014, 01:55 AM
Are people in this thread really blaming the poorest counties while they consume 20 times more??? :biggums:
Not an expert at all but if we want populations in the 2nd/3rd world to match the rates of the 1st world than the amount of extreme poverty needs to be reduced.
Ummm, what we really need to do more than anything, is wait in line 8 hours for a new phone with marginally better capabilities than our old ones, but while we're waiting, we need to just like post on facebook about how stupid the suv-driving republicans are :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: gawd im like so smart and cool now everyone look at me. :dancin
Ummm, what we really need to do more than anything, is wait in line 8 hours for a new phone with marginally better capabilities than our old ones, but while we're waiting, we need to just like post on facebook about how stupid the suv-driving republicans are :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: gawd im like so smart and cool now everyone look at me. :dancin
Who the **** mentioned republicans??? this isn't exactly a left vs. right issue and Conservatives should champion conserving the enviroment.
gigantes
10-01-2014, 05:40 AM
people generally prefer to go extinct than to change too much or give up their comforts and privileges.
this is why we can see the freight train headed straight for the cliff's edge... why individuals and groups can come up with the most well-intentioned, rational and even beautiful plans for fixin' things up... but the train is just too massive... inertia is just too great for most plans to work very well.
we're so far behind where we need to be on so many issues that i've given up on the animals. me, an amateur zoologist of sorts who has spent countless hours in the field, at zoos, and reading texts. it's just heartbreaking to me, but it's also the way of life and the cosmos, fortunately or unfortunately.
Nanners
10-01-2014, 05:45 AM
I dont think there is really anything we can do about this problem of wildlife extinction/eradication. As long as human civilization continues to grow on this planet, this problem can never go away.
The majority of wild animals will forever be at odds with the environmental changes and effects caused by human civilization. Certain species like mosquitoes, pigeons and rats will do just fine as humans continue to urbanize the globe, but a lot of species, especially the large and "majestic" species like rhinos, elephants, tigers, polar bears and dolphins cannot compete in a world that is completely dominated by humans.
Most of these majestic animals will not truly go extinct, as they will continue to exist in things like zoos and sperm/egg banks, but the way things are going they will never exist in the wild as they have prior to modern human civilization.
edit: Anybody who is interested in the relationship between man and animals should check out the film Blackfish. Its on netflix.
masonanddixon
10-01-2014, 06:04 AM
I dont think there is really anything we can do about this problem of wildlife extinction/eradication. As long as human civilization continues to grow on this planet, this problem will never go away.
The majority of wild animals will forever be at odds with the environmental changes and effects caused by human civilization. Certain species like mosquitoes, pigeons and rats will do just fine as humans continue to urbanize the globe, but a lot of species, especially the large and "majestic" species like rhinos, elephants, tigers, polar bears, dolphins, etc... cannot compete in a world that is completely dominated by humans.
Most of these majestic animals will not truly go extinct, as they will continue to exist in things like zoos and sperm/egg banks, but the way things are going they will never exist in the wild as they have prior to modern human civilization.
edit: Anybody who is interested in the relationship between man and animals should check out the film Blackfish. Its on netflix.
So true. In Australia you won't see koalas or kangaroos outside of the zoo---I am thinking by 2025
GimmeThat
10-01-2014, 07:19 AM
Ummm, what we really need to do more than anything, is wait in line 8 hours for a new phone with marginally better capabilities than our old ones, but while we're waiting, we need to just like post on facebook about how stupid the suv-driving republicans are :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: gawd im like so smart and cool now everyone look at me. :dancin
well, you ARE consistent.
for not just believe that people should remove the term b*tch
but also ban their rights/ability to b*tch
Akrazotile
10-01-2014, 09:32 AM
I dont think there is really anything we can do about this problem of wildlife extinction/eradication. As long as human civilization continues to grow on this planet, this problem can never go away.
The majority of wild animals will forever be at odds with the environmental changes and effects caused by human civilization. Certain species like mosquitoes, pigeons and rats will do just fine as humans continue to urbanize the globe, but a lot of species, especially the large and "majestic" species like rhinos, elephants, tigers, polar bears and dolphins cannot compete in a world that is completely dominated by humans.
Most of these majestic animals will not truly go extinct, as they will continue to exist in things like zoos and sperm/egg banks, but the way things are going they will never exist in the wild as they have prior to modern human civilization.
edit: Anybody who is interested in the relationship between man and animals should check out the film Blackfish. Its on netflix.
Millions/billions of years of uniquely crafted beautiful evolution down the drain, permanently wiped out for all of time. Thats really fukking frustrating and disappointing.
But hey, what are we gonna do, right? Something insensitive??? LMFAO, no way!!!!! The most coolest most importantest thing in life is to like be more sensitive than the average person is, if you cant play sports or make people laugh or be a Handsome Man or succeed in business, its the only way to get girls to even notice you! Hey everyone im so sensitive, im just like outraged abiut everything!!!! Give me some congratulations, gawd!!!! Include me for once, im conplaining!!!! Cant you hear me!???? Im complaining!!!!!!!!! And im sensitive!!!!!
RidonKs
10-01-2014, 09:33 AM
Millions/billions of years of uniquely crafted beautiful evolution down the drain, permanently wiped out for all of time. Thats really fukking frustrating and disappointing.
But hey, what are we gonna do, right? Something insensitive??? LMFAO, no way!!!!! The most coolest most importantest thing in life is to like be more sensitive than the average person is, if you can play sports or make people laugh or be a Handsome Man or succeed in business, its the only way to get girls to even notice you! Hey everyone im so sensitive, im just like outraged abiut everything!!!! Give me some congratulations, gawd!!!! Include me for once, im conplaining!!!! Cant you hear me!???? Im complaining!!!!!!!!! And im sensitive!!!!!
:lol:
Akrazotile
10-01-2014, 09:33 AM
Who the **** mentioned republicans??? this isn't exactly a left vs. right issue and Conservatives should champion conserving the enviroment.
I was just being satirical man, wasnt tryin to mock your post in any way. Sorry if there was confusion.
RidonKs
10-01-2014, 09:34 AM
your satire bites
Akrazotile
10-01-2014, 09:37 AM
your satire bites
yeah, well... yours kisses dudes in the mouth
JohnnySic
10-01-2014, 09:43 AM
The good news is tha small mammals that dont require much space are doing fine.
RidonKs
10-01-2014, 09:48 AM
yeah, well... yours kisses dudes in the mouth
you must spread reputation around before giving it to akrazotile again
Akrazotile
10-01-2014, 09:58 AM
you must spread reputation around before giving it to akrazotile again
:D
RidonKs
10-01-2014, 09:59 AM
that bit but i guess it wasn't so much satire
MadeFromDust
10-01-2014, 05:53 PM
All we need for pets is pit bulls any ways no big deal
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