What position is currently...

[Kaspah]

The strongest and weakest? Which one has the biggest impact on the game, which has the least impact on the game?

1 2 3 4 5?

Also, the typical weak era for 'x' talk... Who is currently experiencing the weakest era among players for their respective positions? Which position currently has the worst crop of players?

[Mass Debator]

Strongest = center
Weakest = point guard

[ArbitraryWater]

Strongest easily PG, weakest easily SG

[Buffalobraves]

Weakest is Center.

Its easy to say the strongest is PG and that is probably correct but the amount of skill that these new NBA stretch 4's have is pretty insane and there is a lot of them.

[Burgz V2]

strongest is point guard.

weakest is center. you can make an argument for SG, but most centers in the league are actually PFs masquerading as 5s, play nothing like true centers.

There are plenty of SGs just not many elite players/the talent level is pretty much level after a couple of guys.

[lilteapot]

PG or PF for Strongest, weakest is SG.

[dh144498]

Strongest easily PG, weakest easily SG


:roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

:roll:

Oh my god, a Kobetard taking this post to heart :facepalm

Yes, deal with it ffs, SG has been a historically weak Position..

[ralph_i_el]

2 guard is weak (unless you include all the 1's who can play 2 just as well).

4 is the strongest imo

[ArbitraryWater]

2 guard is weak (unless you include all the 1's who can play 2 just as well).

4 is the strongest imo

What I thought.. But in the "top 5 at each Position" thread, I realized it's not anymore... Mainly due to the fall of guys like Duncan, Garnett, Stoudemire, Gasol, Boozer, Bosh, etc

Ibaka is the 5th and lest elite PF rn imo

[Bandito]

Strongest is PG. I would take SG as the weakest. Center is weak but their roles have changed a lot and most teams don't even use them really.

[dh144498]

Oh my god, a Kobetard taking this post to heart :facepalm

Yes, deal with it ffs, SG has been a historically weak Position..


oh my god. Look at all the subtle things you are typing to achieve your agenda.

:roll:

[VengefulAngel]

We may have the best two SF's to have ever played when all is said and done....

[JimmyMcAdocious]

strongest is point guard.

weakest is center. you can make an argument for SG, but most centers in the league are actually PFs masquerading as 5s, play nothing like true centers.

There are plenty of SGs just not many elite players/the talent level is pretty much level after a couple of guys.

But they still play center. That's like saying Al Horford is a PF. No, he's played almost all of his minutes for his career at center. He's a center.

The center position isn't terrible, it's just lacking offensive talent. You have Cousins, Jefferson, Horford, Dwight, and Gasol. Meh. Dwight and Horford to some extent and really only Cousins and Al Jeff have supremely talented offensive ability. But this is the era of rebounding and defensive bigs, apparently. Dwight, Gasol, Drummond, Noah, Varejao, Bogut, Horford, Jordan.. There are some really talented defensive centers. None of them are Hakeem, but I'd say you could put many of them in the 90s, or whatever era, and they would be good enough to win a championship with. As long as you aren't building around them. Solid, certainly not good or great era for centers.

SGs are just garbage. Who knows what Kobe is now? And he's out in two years. What is Wade? He might be gone soon, anyway. Doubt his body can hold up. Then you have James Harden as maybe the only franchise caliber SG. Freaking James Harden. Who is next on the list? Thompson, DeRozan, Monta, Afflalo, Beal? Give me a break.

I would take a Cousins, Dwight, Noah, Gasol, Jefferson over any of the SGs not named Harden right now. The talent level at that position is horrible. Too many of them playing PG or SF now (and, yes, those guys are PGs and SFs because they play the position).

[Milbuck]

SG has been a historically weak Position..
Just 10 years ago it was arguably as stacked if not moreso than the current crop of SFs.. Kobe, Wade, T-Mac, Vince, Ginobili, Iverson, Ray, etc. all at their primes.

Kobe to Lebron, T-Mac to Durant, Wade to Melo, Iverson to PG, Vince to Kawhi, and then which SF is on prime Ginobili or Ray's level?

[Bandito]

Oh my god, a Kobetard taking this post to heart :facepalm

Yes, deal with it ffs, SG has been a historically weak Position..
:biggums:

Did you just missed the last decade?

[TimmyDuncan]

Just 10 years ago it was arguably as stacked if not moreso than the current crop of SFs.. Kobe, Wade, T-Mac, Vince, Ginobili, Iverson, Ray, etc. all at their primes.

Kobe to Lebron, T-Mac to Durant, Wade to Melo, Iverson to PG, Vince to Kawhi, and then which SF is on prime Ginobili or Ray's level?

It's crazy how Kawhi is overrated theses days.
Dude averaged 13 ppg in the RS and 14 ppg in the playoff. He didn't create for others or draw double teams except a few games

The heat was a great matchup for him and it gave him great rep 2 years in a row but let's wait for him to be consistant before putting him 3rd best SF (like in the other thread on top 5 per pos) or comparing him to prime VC.

If he can be that, great! spurs will win for sure but it was the same last year after the 2013 finals and he did not improved much in the RS (and in the playoff before the last 3 games)

[ArbitraryWater]

It's crazy how Kawhi is overrated theses days.
Dude averaged 13 ppg in the RS and 14 ppg in the playoff. He didn't create for others or draw double teams except a few games

The heat was a great matchup for him and it gave him great rep 2 years in a row but let's wait for him to be consistant before putting him 3rd best SF (like in the other thread on top 5 per pos) or comparing him to prime VC.

If he can be that, great! spurs will win for sure but it was the same last year after the 2013 finals and he did not improved much in the RS (and in the playoff before the last 3 games)

Please don't ever call yourself a Spurs fan... Timmy stan will do fine.

Milbuck: I hope I get the Chance to put my reply in tommorow

[BuffaloBill]

Strongest = center
Weakest = point guard



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[Smook A.]

Strongest position right now is undoubtedly PG. That position is pervaded with a ton of outstanding talent.

I think the weakest position is currently either Shooting Guard or Center. Yeah the positions do have talent but not as much as SF, PF, and of course PG. If I had to rank the positions from strongest to weakest, my list would look something like this...

1. PG - Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Stephen Curry, John Wall, Damian Lillard, Goran Dragic, Tony Parker, Kyle Lowry, Derrick Rose, Eric Bledsoe, Kyrie Irving, Mike Conley, Ty Lawson, Rajon Rondo, Isaiah Thomas, Jeff Teague
2. PF - Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Dirk Nowitzk, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, Zach Randolph, Paul Millsap, Serge Ibaka, David Lee, Kenneth Farried, Thad Young, David West, Pau Gasol
3. SF - LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Chandler Parsons, Nicolas Batum, Luol Deng, Jeff Green, Nick Young
4. SG - Kobe Bryant, James Harden, Dwyane Wade, Monta Ellis, DeMar DeRozan, Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, Lance Stephenson
5. C - Dwight Howard, DeMarcus Cousins, Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, Andre Drummond, Al Jefferson, Al Horford

The players I listed are currently either superstars, stars, all-stars or players who could be all-stars.

[el gringos]

Sf. Quality over quantity.


Sg

[el gringos]

Strongest position right now is undoubtedly PG. That position is pervaded with a ton of astounding talent.

I think the weakest position is currently either Shooting Guard or Center. Yeah the positions do have talent but not as much as SF, PF, and of course PG. If I had to rank the positions from strongest to weakest, my list would look something like this...

1. PG - Chris Paul, Russell Westbrook, Stephen Curry, John Wall, Damian Lillard, Goran Dragic, Tony Parker, Kyle Lowry, Derrick Rose, Eric Bledsoe, Kyrie Irving, Mike Conley, Ty Lawson, Rajon Rondo, Isaiah Thomas, Jeff Teague
2. PF - Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Dirk Nowitzk, LaMarcus Aldridge, Kevin Love, Zach Randolph, Paul Millsap, Serge Ibaka, David Lee, Kenneth Farried, Thad Young, David West, Pau Gasol
3. SF - LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Paul George, Kawhi Leonard, Chandler Parsons, Nicolas Batum, Luol Deng, Jeff Green, Nick Young
4. SG - Kobe Bryant, James Harden, Dwyane Wade, Monta Ellis, DeMar DeRozan, Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, Lance Stephenson
5. C - Dwight Howard, DeMarcus Cousins, Joakim Noah, Marc Gasol, Andre Drummond, Al Jefferson, Al Horford

The players I listed are currently either superstars, stars, all-stars or players who could be all-stars.
Nick young? Is that a "could be an all star"? And clearly better than an Igoudala?

[Smook A.]

Nick young? Is that a "could be an all star"? And clearly better than an Igoudala?
You're on coke if you think a player who averaged 9/5/4 last season while playing good defense should deserve to be an all-star. Iggy is a good player, but he's not an all-star level player anymore.

As for Nick Young, he could be an all-star. He put up 18 ppg while only playing 28 mpg last season.

[Phenith]

You're on coke if you think a player who averaged 9/5/4 last season while playing good defense should deserve to be an all-star. Iggy is a good player, but he's not an all-star level player anymore.

As for Nick Young, he could be an all-star. He put up 18 ppg while only playing 28 mpg last season.

And you expect him to improve on that with Kobe back? I think even in more minutes he'll be lucky to get back to 18ppg and be far from an all star.

[Cold soul]

This is a pretty easy question.

Strongest = point guard
Weakest = center

[qrich]

PF is the elite. Blake, Davis, Aldridge, Dirk, Love, Z-Bo, Duncan, Millsap, Manimal, Bosh

SG is the bottom of the five.

[RRR3]

You're on coke if you think a player who averaged 9/5/4 last season while playing good defense should deserve to be an all-star. Iggy is a good player, but he's not an all-star level player anymore.

As for Nick Young, he could be an all-star. He put up 18 ppg while only playing 28 mpg last season.
You honestly think Brick Young is a better player than Iguodala? :biggums:

[I<3NBA]

strongest
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weakest
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[Collie]

Eh, the center position is much better now compared to 4-5 years ago. I wouldn't call it the weakest given how deep it is. A lot of teams have at least one quality center, guys like Gortat and Nene who are above average.

SG, on the other hand... when you have James Harden as your best SG (or old Kobe and Wade if you're so inclined), and Klay Freakin Thomson as a top 5 SG, then that position is probably very weak.

If you told me a couple of years ago that Harden would be the best at his position, I'd have laughed and called you a troll.

[jaybee682]

Strongest: PG

Weakest: Center - It has been the weakest for 15 years now.

[T_L_P]

You're on coke if you think a player who averaged 9/5/4 last season while playing good defense should deserve to be an all-star. Iggy is a good player, but he's not an all-star level player anymore.

As for Nick Young, he could be an all-star. He put up 18 ppg while only playing 28 mpg last season.

Iggy's no All-Star anymore, but he was without doubt a top 3 perimeter defender last year. Good defense is a massive understatement. :confusedshrug:

Strongest is PG or PF. Weakest is probably SG.

[Nastradamus]

PG/PF
SF
C(and its closer to 3rd than 5th)
SG

[Legends66NBA7]

Please don't ever call yourself a Spurs fan... Timmy stan will do fine.

Whatever fan or stan he is of, what he said was on point.

Kwahi isn't comparable to prime Vince and wasn't THAT special in the playoffs. But if he produces at a higher level in the upcoming years, great for him.

[Milbuck]

Whatever fan or stan he is of, what he said was on point.

Kwahi isn't comparable to prime Vince and wasn't THAT special in the playoffs. But if he produces at a higher level in the upcoming years, great for him.
To clear things up I was never directly comparing Kawhi to Vince..I was just lining players up between the two positions, by their ranks within their own position..and Kawhi and VC are both in that 4-5 range for SFs and SGs in their respective eras imo.

[ralph_i_el]

What I thought.. But in the "top 5 at each Position" thread, I realized it's not anymore... Mainly due to the fall of guys like Duncan, Garnett, Stoudemire, Gasol, Boozer, Bosh, etc

Ibaka is the 5th and lest elite PF rn imo

Love
Blake Griffin
Anthony Davis
Dirk
LMA
Horford

and then a TON of depth. Duncan/faried/Ibaka/Gasol/Ryan Anderson(beast when healthy), ect ect....

[KG215]

PG and PF are deeper, but SF is the most top heavy. If you want to make an argument quality > quantity, then SF would be the strongest. Not that I agree, but SF at the top has the two best players in the game, then top 10ish players like George (if he gets back to what he was before the injury) and Carmelo.

[moe94]

PG and PF are deeper, but SF is the most top heavy. If you want to make an argument quality > quantity, then SF would be the strongest. Not that I agree, but SF at the top has the two best players in the game, then top 10ish players like George (if he gets back to what he was before the injury) and Carmelo.
Agreed completely.