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IamRAMBO24
09-30-2014, 11:57 PM
About the low carb diet. While it was great, I didn't shed the pounds I wanted to. It's hard to lose weight eating so much calories. The cravings for the carbs made me eat even more, so I do not recommend it.

When I get into something, I go hardcore. I read everything under the sun, and from this vast sea of knowledge, I use my own sense of introspection to combine the best ideas into one overall picture.

This is what i now think ..

1. If you want to lose weight, you are going to have to cut back on your calories. It does not matter if you are going low carb/high carb, you will need to burn more calories than you take in. Low carbers tout being in ketosis, but even if you are in it, you'll only burn 100-200 calories per day, and it is hard to lose weight strictly off of this since a high fat/low carb diet requires a lot of calories.

2. If you can't cut back on your calories, this means you have cravings. Cravings will make you eat more and still not feel any satiety (satisfaction).

3. If you can't control the cravings, then you need to reset your diet and start at ground zero.

4. To do that, you will need to fast. The starting point of any diet should be a two day fast. When you fast, your body is healing itself. It is the greatest nutritionist you will ever know. It will destroy toxins, kill cancer cells, replenish the body, cure all diseases, push back your aging, etc.

5. Once you reset your eating habits, you can start eating again. Since you no longer have cravings, you can pick and choose what you want to eat and stick with it.

6. The best way to lose weight is to eat fruits. The second best way is to eat vegetables. The third best way is to eat starches high in fiber. The fourth best way is to start exercising. Fast. Rinse and repeat.

7. No more junk food. Eat only raw foods. I have lost 15 pounds in 2 weeks eating mainly fruits and vegetables.

KevinNYC
10-01-2014, 12:58 AM
1. If you want to lose weight, you are going to have to cut back on your calories. It does not matter if you are going low carb/high carb, you will need to burn more calories than you take in. Low carbers tout being in ketosis, but even if you are in it, you'll only burn 100-200 calories per day, and it is hard to lose weight strictly off of this since a high fat/low carb diet requires a lot of calories.

This is not true. The latest thinking on things like the Atkins diet emphasize that you need to eat a lot of vegetables, it's the foundation of the diet. You will still have a high percentage of total calories from fat, but that is only because vegetables don't contain many calories.

If you're looking at what you eat, it's a high vegetable diet. If you are looking just at calories, most will come from fat because it's nutrient dense.

In short, your ratio of vegetables may have been off.

BRabbiT
10-01-2014, 01:09 AM
congrats on the momentum.


it's never been harder to lose weight (imo) that it is nowadays.

we're inundated with crap. and most of the time, the "crap" looks like normal food.

there's so much sugar &/salt in everything.

i've had some success recently. down 10 pounds.

i agree w/a few of your points...



.... (A) ... eat fruits. (B).... eat vegetables. (C)...exercising. Fast. Rinse and repeat.

... No more junk food.

GimmeThat
10-01-2014, 01:13 AM
try having your carbs in the morning
your proteins in your noon
your produce for your dinner as well as your minerals

but I guess if your lean enough about your diet
dinner and breakfast might become interchangeable


not a nutritionist

J Shuttlesworth
10-01-2014, 01:18 AM
I lost 70 pounds when I was 19. i just was strict about what I ate and me and a friend worked out everyday for like 8 months. I'd say it's more of an overall diet change for the rest of your life. Temporary diets aren't the best IMO. Change the overall philosophy of what you eat, work hard, lift hard, profit.

I didn't go lo carb or anything like that. I just ate smaller portions, cut out useless calories, and watched calorie counts on things.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 01:46 AM
This is not true. The latest thinking on things like the Atkins diet emphasize that you need to eat a lot of vegetables, it's the foundation of the diet. You will still have a high percentage of total calories from fat, but that is only because vegetables don't contain many calories.

If you're looking at what you eat, it's a high vegetable diet. If you are looking just at calories, most will come from fat because it's nutrient dense.

In short, your ratio of vegetables may have been off.

The overall calorie intake will lead to weight gain. The atkins diet rest solely on being in ketosis. Ketosis is overrated. When your body switches to burning primarily fat, it's not burning enough calories to warrant eating that much. It is easy to go over your intake. You can't even eat enough vegetables without going over the carb restriction. You're not getting enough nutrients as is and eating 2-3 cups a day just won't cut it. Supplementing it with vitamins is a horrible idea since it doesn't provide the same nutrients as whole raw foods high in carbs.

Trust me, I did the atkins diet. It's great in theory but nothing more. The best foods to lose weight are raw foods. The atkins diet doesn't want you to eat fruit.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 01:54 AM
congrats on the momentum.


it's never been harder to lose weight (imo) that it is nowadays.

we're inundated with crap. and most of the time, the "crap" looks like normal food.

there's so much sugar &/salt in everything.

i've had some success recently. down 10 pounds.

i agree w/a few of your points...

True, sugar and salt are hard to kick. This is the reason why I would suggest fasting. If you fast for a day, you will get light headed and a headache kicks in. A lot of people think it's because they are hungry, but they are really not. The body has more than enough stored fats and nutrients to last for weeks. What is happening is the body is beginning to replenish itself and kick out the sugar and toxins, hence the breakouts, headaches, weakness, etc.

What happens when an animal gets sick? He lies there, completely not hungry, and rests. The body is recuperating the same way when you fast.

I would question all the nutritionists and doctors who advocate eating to be healthy; it has been known for centuries fasting and utilizing the body's recovery mechanism are the best ways to regain your health.

Rameek
10-01-2014, 02:15 AM
Eating to get full or satisfied no matter what diet you're on is a mistake. Most people eat more than what the body needs to function.

Metabolism also has to be accounted for.

How your body burns fuel varies.....

Smoke117
10-01-2014, 02:22 AM
Switch to the intermittent 18 hour fast/6 hour eat window, fat boy.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 02:24 AM
Eating to get full or satisfied no matter what diet you're on is a mistake. Most people eat more than what the body needs to function.

Metabolism also has to be accounted for.

How your body burns fuel varies.....

Not if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. Both have so much nutrients it balances the body out and achieves satiety with very few calories, which is probably the most important thing when losing weight. If you can't feel full off of fruits and vegetables, then your body needs a clensing. The toxins and sugars are playing tricks on your mind.

It's hard to achieve satiety on a low carb diet because the body keeps on craving the carbs. I couldn't do it. Salads and frankenstein atkins bars weren't cutting it.

Akrazotile
10-01-2014, 02:26 AM
About the low carb diet. While it was great, I didn't shed the pounds I wanted to. It's hard to lose weight eating so much calories. The cravings for the carbs made me eat even more, so I do not recommend it.



That's because you did not reduce your semen intake. You're still consuming way too many CFS (calories from semen) per day, and that's why you're not achieving any loss, aside from the regular losses you take on a daily basis.

J Shuttlesworth
10-01-2014, 02:29 AM
Not if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. Both have so much nutrients it balances the body out and achieves satiety with very few calories, which is probably the most important thing when losing weight. If you can't feel full off of fruits and vegetables, then your body needs a clensing. The toxins and sugars are playing tricks on your mind.

It's hard to achieve satiety on a low carb diet because the body keeps on craving the carbs. I couldn't do it. Salads and frankenstein atkins bars weren't cutting it.

Too much fruit can actually add up to be a lot of calories, especially with all the sugar. It's good to have some fruit every day, but easy to overload. Veggies are good no matter what though

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 02:32 AM
That's because you did not reduce your semen intake. You're still consuming way too many CFS (calories from semen) per day, and that's why you're not achieving any loss, aside from the regular losses you take on a daily basis.

Well with an atkins diet I'm mainly consuming protein and fat and ignoring a lot of foods that have essential vitamins. To make that up, Atkin's recommended I eat 2-3 cups of veggies and supplement it with vitamins, which screwed up my body big time. The body needs more than just vitamins; it needs whole raw foods, so taking a pill here and there is not the same thing as eating a fruit bowl.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 02:35 AM
Too much fruit can actually add up to be a lot of calories, especially with all the sugar. It's good to have some fruit every day, but easy to overload. Veggies are good no matter what though

This is not true. Fruits are jam packed with nutrients which allows the body to achieve satiety with very little calories. It's really the nutrition that contributes to satiety, not overall caloric count. Look at a Mcdonald's combo: close to 1,800 calories but you're only full for 3 hours tops.

I can eat 18 (1,800 calories) bananas and be full for two whole day. It's humanly possible. What people don't realize is they are not eating because they are hungry, they are eating because they are craving for the foods. Big difference.

J Shuttlesworth
10-01-2014, 02:43 AM
This is not true. Fruits are jam packed with nutrients which allows the body to achieve satiety with very little calories. It's really the nutrition that contributes to satiety, not overall caloric count. Look at a Mcdonald's combo: close to 1,800 calories but you're only full for 3 hours tops.

I can eat 18 (1,800 calories) bananas and be full for two whole day. It's humanly possible. What people don't realize is they are not eating because they are hungry, they are eating because they are craving for the foods. Big difference.
A cup of dates is 500 calories. If you're trying to cut weight, you simply need more calories out than in. It's amazing how easily fruit can set you over your daily calorie intake. Obviously it's better than eating McDonald's, but that's not the point. The majority of calories in fruit are sugar, so it's best not to over do it. Vegetables have a lot more fiber so they're more filling than fruit. They're also less calories than fruit. I definitely wouldn't take the mindset of "I can eat as much fruit as I want" if i'm trying to lose weight.

Bandito
10-01-2014, 08:35 AM
Too much fruit can actually add up to be a lot of calories, especially with all the sugar. It's good to have some fruit every day, but easy to overload. Veggies are good no matter what though
It has a lot of sugar but what makes you fat is refined sugar not the sugar you get from fruits. That fruit is more likely than not burned but refined sugar stays in your body as fat.

Dresta
10-01-2014, 09:15 AM
The diet with the most scientific justification behind it is the 2 on 5 off diet, where you fast 2 days (700 calories for men, 500 for women), and eat normally the rest of the week. It's health benefits are proven, unlike most diets out there.

RidonKs
10-01-2014, 09:17 AM
how big of you

joe
10-01-2014, 09:20 AM
About the low carb diet. While it was great, I didn't shed the pounds I wanted to. It's hard to lose weight eating so much calories. The cravings for the carbs made me eat even more, so I do not recommend it.

When I get into something, I go hardcore. I read everything under the sun, and from this vast sea of knowledge, I use my own sense of introspection to combine the best ideas into one overall picture.

This is what i now think ..

1. If you want to lose weight, you are going to have to cut back on your calories. It does not matter if you are going low carb/high carb, you will need to burn more calories than you take in. Low carbers tout being in ketosis, but even if you are in it, you'll only burn 100-200 calories per day, and it is hard to lose weight strictly off of this since a high fat/low carb diet requires a lot of calories.

2. If you can't cut back on your calories, this means you have cravings. Cravings will make you eat more and still not feel any satiety (satisfaction).

3. If you can't control the cravings, then you need to reset your diet and start at ground zero.

4. To do that, you will need to fast. The starting point of any diet should be a two day fast. When you fast, your body is healing itself. It is the greatest nutritionist you will ever know. It will destroy toxins, kill cancer cells, replenish the body, cure all diseases, push back your aging, etc.

5. Once you reset your eating habits, you can start eating again. Since you no longer have cravings, you can pick and choose what you want to eat and stick with it.

6. The best way to lose weight is to eat fruits. The second best way is to eat vegetables. The third best way is to eat starches high in fiber. The fourth best way is to start exercising. Fast. Rinse and repeat.

7. No more junk food. Eat only raw foods. I have lost 15 pounds in 2 weeks eating mainly fruits and vegetables.

Dude.. just eat as much vegetables and meat as you want. Don't worry about counting calories or anything. Eat fruit at a slightly lower clip because of the sugar. You will lose weight and never be lacking for great food, and you never have to worry about counting any sort of dietary number. Don't overthink it, it works! :)

KevinNYC
10-01-2014, 09:37 AM
The overall calorie intake will lead to weight gain. The atkins diet rest solely on being in ketosis. Ketosis is overrated. When your body switches to burning primarily fat, it's not burning enough calories to warrant eating that much. It is easy to go over your intake. You can't even eat enough vegetables without going over the carb restriction. You're not getting enough nutrients as is and eating 2-3 cups a day just won't cut it. Supplementing it with vitamins is a horrible idea since it doesn't provide the same nutrients as whole raw foods high in carbs.

Trust me, I did the atkins diet. It's great in theory but nothing more. The best foods to lose weight are raw foods. The atkins diet doesn't want you to eat fruit.

You should go through the pages here and see actually what the diet is.
http://www.atkins.com/Program/Overview.aspx

As you can see it does include fruit. Ketosis is emphasized in the beginning, after that it's about finding how many carbs your body can take without putting on weight. You can eat fruit. The carb restriction is net carbs, in which you subtract fiber, so if you are eating raw vegetables, you won't go over your carb restriction. They emphasize some vegetables in phase 1 and others later on.
http://www.atkins.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=025380ad-8a45-4751-a138-1d7b90ae26e1

riseagainst
10-01-2014, 09:37 AM
dumbass...... i told you so from the beginning.

Someone bump his thread and let's see who were all the idiots that agreed with OP's original plan and thought i was wrong.

DeuceWallaces
10-01-2014, 10:20 AM
Seems like Rambo is an overweight, manic, and pretty stupid guy. He has no will power or dedication and bounces from one miraculous idea to the next.

Every 6 weeks he thinks he's unlocked the secrets of something from reading Wikipedia, but then 6 weeks later after he inevitably gives up due to a lack of dedication and he'll move on to the next amazing thing he just read in an Amazon book review.

riseagainst
10-01-2014, 10:24 AM
Seems like Rambo is an overweight, manic, and pretty stupid guy. He has no will power or dedication and bounces from one miraculous idea to the next.

Every 6 weeks he thinks he's unlocked the secrets of something from reading Wikipedia, but then 6 weeks later after he inevitably gives up due to a lack of dedication and he'll move on to the next amazing thing he just read in an Amazon book review.

:roll:

:applause:

nathanjizzle
10-01-2014, 10:36 AM
Gotta admit I was wrong ...
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/666/_57c8a1a431a592af806925e57258202f.png

poido123
10-01-2014, 10:56 AM
I've lost just over 10 kilos in the last few months and it's mainly because I have no processed shit in my diet and I do have days where i eat shit too.

I have tried a 2 day fast, but I can't do it. I lasted about a day and a half.

To anyone who wants to know how to lose weight, just cut down on your processed food and shit with yeast and butter in it.

Plenty of sleep and water helps, exercise obviously and smaller portions of meat. Try and stick with white meats.

DoodleDa
10-01-2014, 11:24 AM
I hope you guys realize nutrition is far simply than all of you are making it out to be. Not to mention the majority of the stuff in this thread is plain wrong.

Rameek
10-01-2014, 02:07 PM
Not if you eat a lot of fruits and vegetables. Both have so much nutrients it balances the body out and achieves satiety with very few calories, which is probably the most important thing when losing weight. If you can't feel full off of fruits and vegetables, then your body needs a clensing. The toxins and sugars are playing tricks on your mind.

It's hard to achieve satiety on a low carb diet because the body keeps on craving the carbs. I couldn't do it. Salads and frankenstein atkins bars weren't cutting it.
Eating to full is a mistake for any food consumed. Research it. The point is you are not supposed to eat this way. Gluttony.

outbreak
10-01-2014, 07:59 PM
The diet with the most scientific justification behind it is the 2 on 5 off diet, where you fast 2 days (700 calories for men, 500 for women), and eat normally the rest of the week. It's health benefits are proven, unlike most diets out there.

I actually did this for a bit and it works, was losing about a kilo a week and it's not that difficult to do. Before that I was just limiting my calories and while I found that worked to lose more weight it was harder to stick to then the 2/5 diet. The 2/5 diet is not designed for weight loss though and some people find they don't lose any weight doing it, it's main goal is health benefits.

Weight loss really is as simple as less calories = weight loss. The problem is people see the media talking about losing ridiculous amounts of weight and assume they can be doing that to when it's not safe or feasible to lose more than a kilo or two a week. Losing 4-5 kilos in a week means your likely to put that weight back on and if you do it over extended periods of time you will damage your organs. That's the way low carb diets work, if you stick to them you will lose weight quicker than anything else but you will also put it all back on quickly and you risk other problems. Being skinny does not automatically equal being healthy.

You don't need to buy any health bars or smoothies or any of that shit. Just watch your calorie intake and start exercising and be prepared to stick to it and not expect it to work magic over night.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 10:32 PM
You should go through the pages here and see actually what the diet is.
http://www.atkins.com/Program/Overview.aspx

As you can see it does include fruit. Ketosis is emphasized in the beginning, after that it's about finding how many carbs your body can take without putting on weight. You can eat fruit. The carb restriction is net carbs, in which you subtract fiber, so if you are eating raw vegetables, you won't go over your carb restriction. They emphasize some vegetables in phase 1 and others later on.
http://www.atkins.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=025380ad-8a45-4751-a138-1d7b90ae26e1

In the end, if you eat over 2,000 calories, you are going to gain weight. Calories just don't disappear into thin air like Dr. Atkins touted. He said you can eat whatever you want as long as you restrict your carb intake. His reasoning was that during ketosis your body will burn the fat, but this burns 100-200 calories at most and he's encouraging people to eat as much as they want.

The diet encourages you to cut back on the sugar and to exercise, so I can see some people drop in weight if they have never done that before, but it defeats itself by encouraging you to eat more than you normally eat.

outbreak
10-01-2014, 10:41 PM
In the end, if you eat over 2,000 calories, you are going to gain weight. Calories just don't disappear into thin air like Dr. Atkins touted. He said you can eat whatever you want as long as you restrict your carb intake. His reasoning was that during ketosis your body will burn the fat, but this burns 100-200 calories at most and he's encouraging people to eat as much as they want.

The diet encourages you to cut back on the sugar and to exercise, so I can see some people drop in weight if they have never done that before, but it defeats itself by encouraging you to eat more than you normally eat.

If you do the no carb diets like atkins properly you should see yourself lose more weight in a couple of weeks than you could cutting calories, the problem is your body isn't losing the weight healthily it's just burning it's own stores. After a couple weeks it stops, your weight plateaus and you put that weight back on if you keep eating a lot.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 11:34 PM
If you do the no carb diets like atkins properly you should see yourself lose more weight in a couple of weeks than you could cutting calories, the problem is your body isn't losing the weight healthily it's just burning it's own stores. After a couple weeks it stops, your weight plateaus and you put that weight back on if you keep eating a lot.

This is a myth. The atkins diet is not very effective for losing weight. Ketosis burns very little fat and the diet encourages you to eat as much fat as you want, sometimes even going over by a thousand.

You can't lose weight this way. Period. The diet lives and dies on ketosis.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 11:37 PM
Eating to full is a mistake for any food consumed. Research it. The point is you are not supposed to eat this way. Gluttony.

Do you know anybody who got fat eating vegetables and fruits?

Do you know anybody who got sick eating a lot of these foods?

Then what is the problem? Eating it in moderation so you can substitute the bad stuff is not a healthy way of eating: how about just avoiding all the bad stuff and just only go extreme on the good stuff?

The good stuff doesn't cause any problems, not even weight gain, so why would you think eating less of it will help your body?

outbreak
10-01-2014, 11:55 PM
This is a myth. The atkins diet is not very effective for losing weight. Ketosis burns very little fat and the diet encourages you to eat as much fat as you want, sometimes even going over by a thousand.

You can't lose weight this way. Period. The diet lives and dies on ketosis.

No it's not. It's been proven. Again you are wrong like you were wrong in the first place like everyone here told you you were. You will lose around 5 kilos in the first couple of weeks. After that it will stop unless you are eating low carbs as well as low calories. That's your body losing excess storage. That's the weight that comes back fast. Anyway the fact of the matter is you are a complete idiot, you know nothing about the things you post about and you should retire from ISH.

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 11:58 PM
No it's not. It's been proven. Again you are wrong like you were wrong in the first place like everyone here told you you were. You will lose around 5 kilos in the first couple of weeks. After that it will stop unless you are eating low carbs as well as low calories. That's your body losing excess storage. That's the weight that comes back fast. Anyway the fact of the matter is you are a complete idiot, you know nothing about the things you post about and you should retire from ISH.

It's water weight dumbsh*t. I've been on it. I know what it is. Do you even know what ketosis is?

IamRAMBO24
10-01-2014, 11:59 PM
In the other thread you were against the low carb diet and now since I am against it you are for it? Grow the f*ck up dumbsh*t. What are you 10 years old?

Nanners
10-01-2014, 11:59 PM
Seems like Rambo is an overweight, manic, and pretty stupid guy. He has no will power or dedication and bounces from one miraculous idea to the next.

Every 6 weeks he thinks he's unlocked the secrets of something from reading Wikipedia, but then 6 weeks later after he inevitably gives up due to a lack of dedication and he'll move on to the next amazing thing he just read in an Amazon book review.

wow :oldlol:

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 12:00 AM
Seems like Rambo is an overweight, manic, and pretty stupid guy. He has no will power or dedication and bounces from one miraculous idea to the next.

Every 6 weeks he thinks he's unlocked the secrets of something from reading Wikipedia, but then 6 weeks later after he inevitably gives up due to a lack of dedication and he'll move on to the next amazing thing he just read in an Amazon book review.

If it's anybody who needs to lose weight, it's you.

GimmeThat
10-02-2014, 12:14 AM
what's the diet called when followed by the % intake given on the food label?

DeuceWallaces
10-02-2014, 12:29 AM
If it's anybody who needs to lose weight, it's you.

Dude, you're a clown and everyone knows it.

You're obviously overweight and you're searching for the quick fix that doesn't exist. You just need to hunker down and make reasonable decisions.

outbreak
10-02-2014, 12:30 AM
It's water weight dumbsh*t. I've been on it. I know what it is. Do you even know what ketosis is?

Yes it's water weight and it's your body burning energy stores. At no point did I talk about ketosis. Your a ****ing idiot with no clue about any subject you post about and you are terrible at reading comprehension to top it all off.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 01:03 AM
Dude, you're a clown and everyone knows it.

You're obviously overweight and you're searching for the quick fix that doesn't exist. You just need to hunker down and make reasonable decisions.

I may or may not be overweight. I'm not dumb to post a picture of my fata*s and allow everybody to make fun of it.

I'm an athlete. All diets interest me. If you claim to know about diet, you probably don't know what you are talking about: even doctors and nutritionists don't know much about it.

Eating veggies and fruits are a quick a fix? Really? Maybe you should start paying atttention to what this thread is about so your chubby a*s can shed a few pounds.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 01:07 AM
Yes it's water weight and it's your body burning energy stores. At no point did I talk about ketosis. Your a ****ing idiot with no clue about any subject you post about and you are terrible at reading comprehension to top it all off.

If you don't know much about ketosis, which is the whole point of the Atkins diet, then you don't know what the f*ck you are talking about.

You eat low carbs so your body will get into ketosis; this is why Atkins believes you can eat whatever you want since your body is primarily burning fat.

If you want a table to fall, you chop its legs off. Ketosis doesn't burn as much fat as Atkins would like you to believe, hence why it's not a good means to lose weight. If you are eating 1,000 calories above your limit and ketosis only burns 200 calories, guess what, you're 800 pounds heavier.

This is the flaw nature of the diet and the fact you have failed to address shows beyond a reasonable you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Akrazotile
10-02-2014, 01:21 AM
If you want a table to fall, you chop its legs off. Ketosis doesn't burn as much fat as Atkins would like you to believe, hence why it's not a good means to lose weight. If you are eating 1,000 calories above your limit and ketosis only burns 200 calories, guess what, you're 800 pounds heavier.

This is the flaw nature of the diet and the fact you have failed to address shows beyond a reasonable you don't know what the hell you are talking about.



:biggums::roll:

Smoke117
10-02-2014, 01:46 AM
I was serious about my post. Intermittent fasting is a great way for even healthy people to cut fat. I was also serious about you being a fat boy, but that isn't the point right now. Give the intermittent fasting a try. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 01:53 AM
Let's not forget Atkins also makes a lot of money off of his products, so he's not really concern about health. Ketosis is not very effective at losing weight: your body gets into ketosis mode, so when you eliminate the carbs, it is tricking the body into thinking it is starving when it's really not because you're not feeding it carbs, but the body is still craving for the carbs and it's shutting down to conserve energy, so not only are you craving for carbs but you don't have the endurance to run or exercise.

Atkins only rest on a false misconception of ketosis: it is hoping ketosis will burn everything you eat and since you can no longer go as intense with your workouts, it's hoping to make that up as well.

KevinNYC
10-02-2014, 10:07 AM
Let's not forget Atkins also makes a lot of money off of his products, so he's not really concern about health.

Let's not forget Robert Atkins died 11 years ago.

GimmeThat
10-02-2014, 10:33 AM
the only diet you can follow rigorously are called supplements

or who knows what are nutritionist good for



unless you want to say you are just going through a phase
then I agree you might as well try a healthy fasting process

riseagainst
10-02-2014, 10:59 AM
OP is a little bi1tch beta ph.aggot. I told him he was wrong from the very beginning because, like usual, he doesn't know jack sh1t and make retarded arguments. Look who's laughing now? You wasted your time "dieting" with absolutely no results to show for it because you are a fcking retarded ph.aggot. Go eat sh1t, pvssy b1tch.

GimmeThat
10-02-2014, 11:46 AM
OP is a little bi1tch beta ph.aggot. I told him he was wrong from the very beginning because, like usual, he doesn't know jack sh1t and make retarded arguments. Look who's laughing now? You wasted your time "dieting" with absolutely no results to show for it because you are a fcking retarded ph.aggot. Go eat sh1t, pvssy b1tch.


do you feel like those who are exercising/dieting is essentially shooting a soft core porn documentary?

riseagainst
10-02-2014, 11:50 AM
do you feel like those who are exercising/dieting is essentially shooting a soft core porn documentary?

why would you say that?

GimmeThat
10-02-2014, 12:24 PM
why would you say that?


you're sort of exhilarating the fact that you are loving yourself quite constantly to the world

DeuceWallaces
10-02-2014, 01:06 PM
Let's not forget Atkins also makes a lot of money off of his products, so he's not really concern about health. Ketosis is not very effective at losing weight: your body gets into ketosis mode, so when you eliminate the carbs, it is tricking the body into thinking it is starving when it's really not because you're not feeding it carbs, but the body is still craving for the carbs and it's shutting down to conserve energy, so not only are you craving for carbs but you don't have the endurance to run or exercise.

Atkins only rest on a false misconception of ketosis: it is hoping ketosis will burn everything you eat and since you can no longer go as intense with your workouts, it's hoping to make that up as well.

:lol

He's been dead a long time dipshit.

RoseCity07
10-02-2014, 02:32 PM
You don't want to cut your caloric intake by more that 20%. You will fail and probably burn muscle.

What I did to cut 20 pounds and maintain it is drink only water. I eat a bowl of oatmeal every day. Eat canned salmon for convenience to get my omega 3's. Any canned foods must have no more than 10% of the calories from fat. That means turkey chili is the only kind of chili I can buy if I need a quick meal.

It's all about eat foods with high fiber content and have a nice balance of macros so you don't have bad cravings.

joe
10-02-2014, 03:12 PM
If you want to drop weight you need to cut out grains and excess sugar entirely. No bread, no pasta, no cereal, no oatmeal, no taco shells, nothing, nadda. White rice is a maybe but it should be considered an indulgence.

Cut out any food with added sugar of any kind. Sugar, artificial sugar, high fructose corn syrup. Read every label of everything you buy. Eat natural food that is not overly processed and definitely no sugar.

Eat as much meat as you want- grass fed is best, but not a necessity if you can't afford it. Eat as many vegetables as you want. Use olive oil mostly, cut out other oils. Eat fruit with slightly less abandon, due to the high sugar. Nuts are great. Dairy and potatoes, cut both out and try again in a couple weeks. Note how your body responds.

If you do this I will say with 99% certainty you will lose weight, especially if you aren't skinny to begin with. And you will have so many good foods to eat. Never count a carb! Just eat right, the way humans are meant to eat. Grains are a fairly new part of our diet. Our bodies are not meant to eat grains, and the result of eating them is bad health and weight gain. It is so simple, but so obvious.

Nanners
10-02-2014, 03:21 PM
fvck all these diets, if you really want to lose weight you need get up off your ass and exercise.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:28 PM
OP is a little bi1tch beta ph.aggot. I told him he was wrong from the very beginning because, like usual, he doesn't know jack sh1t and make retarded arguments. Look who's laughing now? You wasted your time "dieting" with absolutely no results to show for it because you are a fcking retarded ph.aggot. Go eat sh1t, pvssy b1tch.

Stop being such a b*tch. If you haven't notice the title of the thread, I said I admit I was wrong .. I was wrong about the low carb diet. I was an advocate of it, and being someone who has put it into practice, I can now say it does not work simply it overrates the fat burning of ketosis.

The low carb diet tries to trick your body into ketosis by cutting the carb out and encouraging you to eat lots of fat: this way the body has no choice but to burn fat, but that defeats the purpose of burning fat. If you are eating fat to burn fat then you are not burning stored fat, which is the fat you want to burn.

Trust me, I know what I am talking about. You're just being a little b*tch because you are being schooled on ketosis.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:33 PM
Let's not forget Robert Atkins died 11 years ago.

Atkins is still selling products today. I know he's dead dumbsh*t. I was pointing out his main motive was money and not health. He got the idea of ketosis from fasting. After you fast for 2 days, your body goes into ketosis and starts eating the stored fats. He thinks a person can lose weight if they eat enough fat to trick the body into ketosis but the problem with this is fat has a lot of calories and the body will only be burning the fats consume and not the stored ones.

riseagainst
10-02-2014, 05:34 PM
Stop being such a b*tch. If you haven't notice the title of the thread, I said I admit I was wrong .. I was wrong about the low carb diet. I was an advocate of it, and being someone who has put it into practice, I can now say it does not work simply it overrates the fat burning of ketosis.

The low carb diet tries to trick your body into ketosis by cutting the carb out and encouraging you to eat lots of fat: this way the body has no choice but to burn fat, but that defeats the purpose of burning fat. If you are eating fat to burn fat then you are not burning stored fat, which is the fat you want to burn.

Trust me, I know what I am talking about. You're just being a little b*tch because you are being schooled on ketosis.

you just admitted you were wrong about a low carb diet working. So how do you "know what you are talking about?" What da fuq, you are a fcking dumbass. You ain't schooling anyone, you don't know sh1t. fakkit b1tch.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:35 PM
fvck all these diets, if you really want to lose weight you need get up off your ass and exercise.

Diet is as important, if not more, as exercise.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:36 PM
you just admitted you were wrong about a low carb diet working. So how do you "know what you are talking about?" What da fuq, you are a fcking dumbass. You ain't schooling anyone, you don't know sh1t. fakkit b1tch.

I presented an argument. You're crying like a b*tch. Grow up. Why are you always picking fights with me? Chill out and stop trolling me. I'm trying to have a discussion with mature adults in here until childish idiots like you and DW started f*ckin sh*t up.

Nanners
10-02-2014, 05:37 PM
Diet is as important, if not more, as exercise.

not really. you can eat complete garbage and still lose weight if you are burning enough calories at the gym.

riseagainst
10-02-2014, 05:38 PM
I presented an argument. You're crying like a b*tch. Grow up. Why are you always picking fights with me? Chill out and stop trolling me. I'm trying to have a discussion with mature adults in here until childish idiots like you and DW started f*ckin sh*t up.

pvssy b1tch. You have no idea what you are talking about all the time. Do you just google some sh1t, wikipedia it and ctrl c/ctrl v blocks of texts and post them on here? Betaphag.

J Shuttlesworth
10-02-2014, 05:40 PM
not really. you can eat complete garbage and still lose weight if you are burning enough calories at the gym.
No you can't. If you're eating garbage, you're going to get an excess of calories, and thus not lose any weight.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:43 PM
pvssy b1tch. You have no idea what you are talking about all the time. Do you just google some sh1t, wikipedia it and ctrl c/ctrl v blocks of texts and post them on here? Betaphag.

Why are you so mad? Calm down homie. It's just the internet.

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:45 PM
not really. you can eat complete garbage and still lose weight if you are burning enough calories at the gym.

No one has that much time to be burning 2,000 calories because they can't keep their diet in check, plus where would they get the proper nutrients to work out for that long off of garbage?

IamRAMBO24
10-02-2014, 05:46 PM
No you can't. If you're eating garbage, you're going to get an excess of calories, and thus not lose any weight.

True, if you are eating excess calories then you are just burning off excess calories and not stored fat.

J Shuttlesworth
10-02-2014, 05:48 PM
True, if you are eating excess calories then you are just burning off excess calories and not stored fat.

Yep. Eating garbage won't help you lose any weight at all. In fact, your diet should be relatively the same if you're trying to lose or gain weight. The difference should be the # of calories/portion size

Nanners
10-02-2014, 06:00 PM
No you can't. If you're eating garbage, you're going to get an excess of calories, and thus not lose any weight.

yeah, and if you burn the excess calories at the gym you lose weight...

im not saying eating garbage will help you lose weight, i am saying you can lose weight in spite of eating garbage if you work hard enough.