Why isn't there any woman in the NBA?

[iamgine]

I believe it's to an NBA team's advantage to draft a woman. A guard like Maya Moore perhaps? At the very least, the publicity would be good and they will make history when that woman play on the floor. Her jersey sales should be okay too, at least better than someone like AJ Price or something. Not to mention the initial increase in attendance and people will be talking about it and watching the team in curiosity. Potentially could be huge if she managed to be decent in certain matchups.

There's really no downside. Just play her in garbage time if she's not good. Why hasn't any NBA team done this? Pretty good upside with minimal risk if you ask me.

[Psileas]

Even at garbage time, she would have been the center of many awkward moments. Men just don't tend to play (at least in physical sports) naturally against women. For the opposing team, this would be a lose-lose situation, unless they got a woman, as well...
BTW, there had been a woman that played in the ABA. She wasn't even a basketball player. Played like 1 second:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Ann_Early

[iamgine]

Even at garbage time, she would have been the center of many awkward moments. Men just don't tend to play (at least in physical sports) naturally against women. For the opposing team, this would be a lose-lose situation
And the team that draft her care because?

[Psileas]

And the team that draft her care because?

Simple, because they may find some player much better than her who will contribute more than just financially and a few losing garbage minutes.
Manu Ginobili was a bottom draftee, right? I don't think even the progressive Spurs would ever choose to pick a woman instead.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I believe it's to an NBA team's advantage to draft a woman. A guard like Maya Moore perhaps? At the very least, the publicity would be good and they will make history when that woman play on the floor. Her jersey sales should be okay too, at least better than someone like AJ Price or something. Not to mention the initial increase in attendance and people will be talking about it and watching the team in curiosity. Potentially could be huge if she managed to be decent in certain matchups.

There's really no downside. Just play her in garbage time if she's not good. Why hasn't any NBA team done this? Pretty good upside with minimal risk if you ask me.
Or maybe it would be viewed as what it is: A publicity stunt that has nothing to do with basketball that everyone would lose interest in very quickly. No fanbase likes the idea of having a joke team that values a temporary boost in attention over adding a player that can help the team.

[poido123]

Women in the NBA will get groped on court and gang banged in the lockerooms.

Simple really.

[ralph_i_el]

Because even the best woman ball player would get scored on 90% of the time she had to D up an NBA player

[poido123]

Because even the best woman ball player would get scored on 90% of the time she had to D up an NBA player


I agree.

They can't hang with guys with superior athleticism and strength.

Girls have beta mentality. The moment you post them up, their submissive instincts will kick in and will allow the guy to abuse them.

[lilteapot]

Then what would be the point of the WNBA?

[choppermagic]

Or maybe it would be viewed as what it is: A publicity stunt that has nothing to do with basketball that everyone would lose interest in very quickly. No fanbase likes the idea of having a joke team that values a temporary boost in attention over adding a player that can help the team.

This.

No down side? Plenty. Your team will be questioned and all those other male players that didnt get that roster spots will feel bitter over being passed over for a publicity stunt (in most people's eyes). The fans might watch for a game or two out of curiosity but the woman player will immediately feel undersized and overpowered in the game and in fact it might be embarrassing for her and the WNBA if she really cant compete. The pressure on her will be insane.

Your GM will also be a bit of a laughing stock for passing over other players proven in the NBA for a gimmick.

And on top, your team will lose focus and chemistry, being forced to undergo a circus atmosphere and answering questions about her, rather than basketball games. It could be bad for team morale.

Lots of risks here. Unless you are sure the woman player is NBA worthy, putting a player in just for marketing purposes is not a good idea.

[Prometheus]

What in the **** am I actually reading?

[MavsPoke]

What in the **** am I actually reading?

Just a typical basketball forum in the off-season.

I promise ISH gets better once the season starts :coleman:

[Rake2204]

It sounds awful, but I'm just not sure there's any female basketball player at this point that would be anywhere close to being able to hang with NBA players, even in garbage time. There is a huge physicality gap. The shorter WNBA players are generally too slow with too little leaping ability while someone like Brittany Griner would likely be tossed around like a ragdoll (and beaten down the floor by even some of the slowest NBA big men).

Ann Meyers signed a one year deal with the Pacers back in the day. Here's a glimpse of how it looked: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xauxe9_ann-meyers-recalls-trying-out-for-t_sport

Some quotes from those involved:

"Out there on the floor she was small. I mean she really couldn't jump that well. She couldn't get a shot off."

"It was really tough. I know she would go to the lockerroom after every practice almost in tears, if not in tears. It was rugged."

"I cut her just like any other player."

[JohnMax]

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1694465_o.gif

[ralph_i_el]

I agree.

They can't hang with guys with superior athleticism and strength.

Girls have beta mentality. The moment you post them up, their submissive instincts will kick in and will allow the guy to abuse them.
oh come on :rolleyes:

The reason is that in the NBA you have to be quick and strong enough to defend people in your height range. Since women are ~5in shorter than men on average, a 6'5" woman would be expected to be quick enough to defend centers in womens ball....whereas against men she'd have to check wings who would be too quick, or bigs who are too tall.

[DukeDelonte13]

I think the NHL has had a female play goalie in a few preseason games. Pretty sure it was the penguins.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

If a woman plays in the NBA, it's going to be a guard. Not sure why people are naming 6-5 post players like there's any explanation needed why a 6-5 woman can't guard a 7-0 NBA player.

[poido123]

oh come on :rolleyes:

The reason is that in the NBA you have to be quick and strong enough to defend people in your height range. Since women are ~5in shorter than men on average, a 6'5" woman would be expected to be quick enough to defend centers in womens ball....whereas against men she'd have to check wings who would be too quick, or bigs who are too tall.


This isn't your local league where you can throw a woman on the court among some handy male players.

This is the most demanding, elite league full of freak male athletes in all of sport.

I agree with your points. They would be out of their depth going against these male athletes.

[Burgz V2]

Even at garbage time, she would have been the center of many awkward moments. Men just don't tend to play (at least in physical sports) naturally against women.

ok seriously, there are way better arguments to be made than this. After a while you don't care about that shit. If you do, then you have some growing up to do.

[swagga]

physically unable. Skill doesn't even matter tbh, the physical gap is just enormous. It's like your 6'5' HS coach with GREAT fundamentals going against dwight howard, who barely has a decent post game and NO J, but he'll destroy nonetheless. The speed, strenght, reach, explosiveness differences are just ridiculous. Dwight would beat him while shooting jumpers ffs.

OP there is no way a women ever plays in the NBA. This thread is beyond garbage and goes hand in hand with the wnba vs dleague/d1 colleges.

Some of you people need to play against d3/d2 to realize that they are >>>>>> ..>>>>>> ......>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> WNBA. I'm talking 80 pt beatdowns.
Hell, the better HS teams would absolutely trash the best wnba roster imaginable.

[Rake2204]

The strength, speed, and general athleticism would undoubtedly be the biggest hurdle for any female basketball player looking to cross over. I never like to say never though. Still, generally speaking, there's a huge gap.

I've played against some division I female basketball players though, and it actually bums me out when their athleticism seems to naturally pale. Many times, the division I females have wonderful basketball intellect, work a lot harder, always know the right play, and better understand the game, yet many lesser skilled males hold an advantage due to their body makeup.

In many facets, I sometimes prefer playing with a college level female ballplayer over, say, a male high school varsity player because the former will tend to play the right way - but it's still a bummer when that right way doesn't necessarily allow them to overcome the athletic superiority of a male who may not work as hard or know the game as well but has a body that allows for more strength, speed, and agility. On top of that, if a worse male player still holds an advantage, that probably does not bode well for the female ballplayer in comparison to a male who also knows how to play the right way.

[selrahc]

because women should be in the kitchen... not playing basketball

[Jlamb47]

same reason men are not in the WNBA

[moe94]

same reason men are not in the WNBA
Griner doe :rockon:

[blood yes]

Do people not ****in realize just how hard it is to make the NBA??!

Sometimes I wonder if people truly realize just how good the NBA is. This is the best of the best. Top of the top. That big man that shoots 50% from the line? He shoots 95% in practice. That guy who has no 3 or shot? In a pick-up game he's Ray Allen. That NBA player that has "no athleticism"? In a pick/up game, he's LeBron James.

These Guys are the top of the top. There are more BILLIONAIRES than NBA players. NCAA final four MVP Peyton siva (great college player btw) couldn't even make an NBA team. The gap is ridiculous


Ur saying a woman can play in the NBA? Never
Barely any women can even dunk, and the ones that can would get outrun by a high school varsity basketball male

Please do not ever disrespect NBA players like that. Even the ones at the end of the bench are MUCH better than you think

[pauk]

Heard of Ann Meyers? The only woman to sign a contract with a NBA team, in 1979-80 she had a $50,000 no-cut contract with the Pacers, she participated in three-day tryouts for the team, but eventually was not chosen for the final squad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Meyers

http://cdn3-www.hoopsvibe.com/assets/uploads/2013/09/Ann-Meyers-Pacers.jpg
http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/files/2013/04/ann-meyers-drysdale-signed-8x10-photo-wcoa-indiana-pacers-ucla-nj-gems_6aa8d43abd820145dc79b1d4d27f2ed8.jpg
http://annmeyersdrysdale.com/ann/Ann_Meyers/index_files/1979_training_camp.jpg

[NuggetsFan]

I think the NHL has had a female play goalie in a few preseason games. Pretty sure it was the penguins.

It was Tampa. It was deff a publicity stunt too. Manon Rheaume, she actually kinda hot for what you'd be expecting :lol

Be pretty funny to see what it'd be like for the NBA to do something similar. Get a shooter, spot her up in the corner.

[Jlamb47]

Griner doe :rockon:

LMAO str8 beast

[G0ATbe]

Because the greatest WNBA player of all time is equal to the worst NBA player of all time. Perhaps worse.

[oarabbus]

I agree.

They can't hang with guys with superior athleticism and strength.

Girls have beta mentality. The moment you post them up, their submissive instincts will kick in and will allow the guy to abuse them.

Obviously it would be silly to sign a female NBA player but... Brittany Griner probably has more testosterone flowing through her than 90% of this board.

[oarabbus]

Because the greatest WNBA player of all time is equal to the worst NBA player of all time. Perhaps worse.

That would be Cheryl Miller probably.

She wouldn't make the worst team on the D League probably. She's still a legend, but it's not like she can compete in basketball against men.

[ralph_i_el]

Here's an example of how much of a physical advantage men have at Bball.

My buddy in college played on a team that was put together to scrimmage our schools D1 Womens squad (that was a winning team in the ACC) for practice.

All of the guys on his team were white ex-high school players who had no chance of playing in college anywhere. Not even on the club basketball team at our school. They dropped beatdowns regularly on this D1 girls team.

My buddy was 5'10 probably 150lbs and he was torching these girls with ease. They're in college on scholarship for basketball and this guy made them look like they had lead in their shoes.

[oarabbus]

Another example (at sports in general)


A fourth event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[20] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams, aged 17 and 16 respectively, had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked below 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park.[21] Braasch first took on Venus and beat her 6–2. He then played Serena and won 6–1. Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun."


Braasch competed in a "Battle of the Sexes" contest against Venus Williams and Serena Williams at the 1998 Australian Open when he was ranked 203. A decade and a half older than the sisters, Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centred around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple bottles of ice cold lager." He nonetheless defeated both sisters, playing a single set against each, beating Serena 6–1 and Venus 6–2.

[Psileas]

ok seriously, there are way better arguments to be made than this. After a while you don't care about that shit. If you do, then you have some growing up to do.

The other arguments are way too well known and discussed. It's more than obvious that men enjoy physical advantages, do we really need to mention this? The question is talking about a woman playing as a publicity stand first and foremost.

[Mass Debator]

Women in the NBA will get groped on court and gang banged in the lockerooms.

Simple really.
Aint no one want to bang some manly ass looking girl when they can have an unlimited selection with cash money.

[#number6ix#]

http://www.crabdribbles.com/wp-content/uploads/tumblr_lxkkwejYv81rn20wbo1_400.jpg

He would rape them hoes during and after the game

[salwan]

It would have to be (from a physical standpoint) a total freak of a woman with huge amounts of testosterone. Like that South African runner, who was almost half a man.

In addition, her fundamentals would have to be on a godly level. Like a genius passer, shooter and everything. Larry bird's skillset times ten.

And it still probably wouldn't be enough.

[Rake2204]

Here's an example of how much of a physical advantage men have at Bball.

My buddy in college played on a team that was put together to scrimmage our schools D1 Womens squad (that was a winning team in the ACC) for practice.

All of the guys on his team were white ex-high school players who had no chance of playing in college anywhere. Not even on the club basketball team at our school. They dropped beatdowns regularly on this D1 girls team.

My buddy was 5'10 probably 150lbs and he was torching these girls with ease. They're in college on scholarship for basketball and this guy made them look like they had lead in their shoes.I've heard many women's teams do this. I feel as though I saw a piece of Tennessee's program numerous years ago. There were certain rules the male volunteer opponents had to abide by but I cannot recall what they were (perhaps not physically roughing up the Lady Vols).

[Jameerthefear]

Honestly some of the better middle school teams could beat WNBA teams.

[oarabbus]

Honestly some of the better middle school teams could beat WNBA teams.


:facepalm

[Jameerthefear]

:facepalm
Name me a WNBA player who could check Seventh Woods in middle school. Name me just one. I'm curious.

[Trollsmasher]

Another example (at sports in general)
this one always makes me lol:lol

dude came in after a 18 holes of golf, drunk and handed their arrogant asses to them while smoking during the game breaks

[brantonli]

I'm amazed nobody has said 'Doesn't Chris Bosh play in the NBA?' or anything close.

[iamgine]

The other arguments are way too well known and discussed. It's more than obvious that men enjoy physical advantages, do we really need to mention this? The question is talking about a woman playing as a publicity stand first and foremost.
Exactly. Potential is high if she turn out decent.

I'm not talking about taking her through the draft but more from free agency.

I'm not sure about this...can an NBA team give WNBA player a contract like D-League?

[iamgine]

Or maybe it would be viewed as what it is: A publicity stunt that has nothing to do with basketball that everyone would lose interest in very quickly. No fanbase likes the idea of having a joke team that values a temporary boost in attention over adding a player that can help the team.
Possibly. But come on in today's world I think it will be seen in a positive light if handled correctly.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Or maybe it would be viewed as what it is: A publicity stunt that has nothing to do with basketball that everyone would lose interest in very quickly. No fanbase likes the idea of having a joke team that values a temporary boost in attention over adding a player that can help the team.
this

[ILLsmak]

lol comin in here to be sexist.

If she was super wet... I've already ****ed this up. But really, if she could hit 3s... and she was banging I think it would work. She might be a distraction. Just a skill player.

A lot of men are scared to play vs women. Not me tho... I RELISH BODYING UP ON A WOMAN. Let her get all shy and turn it over.

I think it would be an interesting change of pace... like I said, if she was like so ridiculously beautiful that it distracted people.

-Smak