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ThemBombs
10-01-2014, 06:15 PM
-instead of preparing to send their own military might into former Soviet states, fund pro-Russia political parties and militias in these countries to undermine and eventually take over their respective governments

-form a military and economic alliance with China, Iran, and India. with robust trade among these 4 nations, sanctions from the West would be rendered worthless.

-with the alliance in place, completely cut off the oil pipes to Europe. shortly afterwards, the economies of the West will collapse due to the skyrocketing and unsustainable fuel prices.

once again, the US and Russia abide by differing ideologies and adamantly stand by them, causing animosity not seen since the end of the first Cold War. we are all but living during the dawn of Cold War 2 and possibly even WW3. if these scenarios play out within the next year or so, Russia will have proven that they won't back down to the West and will be ready to begin its conquest to overtake the US and EU.

ThePhantomCreep
10-01-2014, 07:25 PM
In B4 shirtless Putin pics.

Godzuki
10-01-2014, 07:37 PM
Russian people can't live without McDonalds, they'd overthrow Putin if we pulled out all McDonalds from Russia. we got them by the balls :pimp:

those countries ain't shit.

StephHamann
10-01-2014, 07:43 PM
-instead of preparing to send their own military might into former Soviet states, fund pro-Russia political parties and militias in these countries to undermine and eventually take over their respective governments

-form a military and economic alliance with China, Iran, and India. with robust trade among these 4 nations, sanctions from the West would be rendered worthless.

-with the alliance in place, completely cut off the oil pipes to Europe. shortly afterwards, the economies of the West will collapse due to the skyrocketing and unsustainable fuel prices.

once again, the US and Russia abide by differing ideologies and adamantly stand by them, causing animosity not seen since the end of the first Cold War. we are all but living during the dawn of Cold War 2 and possibly even WW3. if these scenarios play out within the next year or so, Russia will have proven that they won't back down to the West and will be ready to begin its conquest to overtake the US and EU.

Yeah and how they gonna pull off all that shit? Their economy sucks and if they stop selling ressources they have nothing left.

Name me one russian premium product outside of weapons and Wodka

RidonKs
10-01-2014, 07:45 PM
-instead of preparing to send their own military might into former Soviet states, fund pro-Russia political parties and militias in these countries to undermine and eventually take over their respective governments
this is actually a fun one for americans to tinker around in your heads with i think.... it should be eye-opening.

imagine the hypothetical scenario just described. let's say a russian/chinese alliance created a fund to funnel into american, canadian, british, australian, german, swedish, italian, and japanese elections so as to alter them.

how do you suppose the current elected governments of these countries would respond to such an attempt?

more specifically so i'm not speaking in riddles or alluding to something i never reveal, i'm speaking broadly about the National Endowment for Democracy and the International Republican Institute, not to mention dozens of private counterparts each of which in not so subtle ways goes about the exact same thing the op described... and have been doing so for as many as 30 years.

KevinNYC
10-01-2014, 07:49 PM
Putin's problems are much closer to home. The Ruble is down near where it was in the 1998 economic crisis. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Russian_financial_crisis)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-01/ruble-set-for-record-low-after-testing-russia-intervention-level.html

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/09/30/if-russia-is-thinking-capital-controls-it-means-sanctions-are-working/
The Russian ruble fell apart Tuesday after Bloomberg, citing two unnamed officials, reported the country’s central bank is thinking about imposing temporary capital controls in order to stop money from leaving the country.

The dollar USDRUB +0.02% traded at an all-time high versus the currency at more than 39 rubles. The ruble also weakened to a level versus a basket of dollars and euros that the central bank previously said would trigger intervention in the foreign-exchange market.

Russia’s central bank subsequently denied the report and there was no sign of intervention, but the ruble remained under pressure.

If capital controls are under discussion, it’s a big deal. It would underscore that sanctions imposed by Washington and Europe over Russia’s actions in Ukraine are causing real economic pain, forcing Russian authorities to consider a desperate measure to prevent money from fleeing the country. It’s worth noting that Russia’s central bank chief just last week had dismissed capital controls — measures designed to limit the flow of capital in and out of an economy– as an idea that “doesn’t make sense.”

A move to impose controls would likely be seen as an about-face by Moscow, which liberalized its capital account rules in 2006. Such controls can take a variety of forms, including taxes, tariffs, and legislation banning or regulating certain activities, such as owning foreign assets.

niko
10-01-2014, 09:04 PM
China can't back Russia overtly because Russia's whole presmise here is Crimea are russian people, they shouldn't be forced to live in another country. China has a shitload of places like that, but the opposite. It;s a dangerous premise for them.

fiddy
10-01-2014, 09:09 PM
-instead of preparing to send their own military might into former Soviet states, fund pro-Russia political parties and militias in these countries to undermine and eventually take over their respective governments


you are 20 years too late



-form a military and economic alliance with China, Iran, and India. with robust trade among these 4 nations, sanctions from the West would be rendered worthless.

hi, my name is BRICS

ThemBombs
10-02-2014, 07:06 PM
you are 20 years too late


hi, my name is BRICS
1. there will always be some kind of pro-Russian sentiment in Eastern Europe. Russia can use that to their advantage.

2. Brazil will either remain neutral in the conflict or get swayed towards the West, and Iran is not a part of BRICS.