Salty Shaq talking sh** about Nash's back to back MVPs

[oarabbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmWN_HSNcc

Best part is everyone's reaction after Shaq goes "No way"

Ernie at the end... :lol

Maybe Shaq did deserve the MVPs but he still salty like a saltine

[JohnMax]

Shaq was a shell of himself in Miami. He should've gotten multiple MVPs in Los Angeles.

[ArbitraryWater]

Shaq and MVP in 2006? :lol

2005? Why not.. But his best next case was clearly 2001... Robbed.

[Ca$H]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmWN_HSNcc

Best part is everyone's reaction after Shaq goes "No way"

Ernie at the end... :lol

Maybe Shaq did deserve the MVPs but he still salty like a saltine

2005- Shaq

2006- Kobe

Nash got it because he is white.

[Marchesk]

Can you imagine if a dominant big in the 60s would have been passed up for a 6 foot white guy? :lol

[Real14]

Shaq and MVP in 2006? :lol

2005? Why not.. But his best next case was clearly 2001... Robbed.
:facepalm

[Real14]

Kobe should of won in 06. 05 definitely didn't belong to Shaq.:facepalm :facepalm

[Hey Yo]

2005- Shaq

2006- Kobe

Nash got it because he is white.
2006, Amare missed 79 games. Suns lost their best pick and roll player and his 26pts 9 boards from the year before. Lost 8 more games but still finished 2nd in the West.

The right man won.

[Myth]

I think Shaq deserved it in 2000, 2001, and 2005. He wasn't as dominant in 2005 as he was in the early 2000s, but the competition was also weaker. I think he didn't win because people had a hard time giving an MVP to a player who was not at their peak while Nash was the better story.

[TheReal Kendall]

2006, Amare missed 79 games. Suns lost their best pick and roll player and his 26pts 9 boards from the year before. Lost 8 more games but still finished 2nd in the West.

The right man won.

:applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

I think Shaq deserved it in 2000, 2001, and 2005. He wasn't as dominant in 2005 as he was in the early 2000s, but the competition was also weaker. I think he didn't win because people had a hard time giving an MVP to a player who was not at their peak while Nash was the better story.

And due to Wade.. Who was like the up and coming star, and became the team's leader in the '05 playoffs.

[Real14]

I think Shaq deserved it in 2000, 2001, and 2005. He wasn't as dominant in 2005 as he was in the early 2000s, but the competition was also weaker. I think he didn't win because people had a hard time giving an MVP to a player who was not at their peak while Nash was the better story.
I only agree with 2000.

[T_L_P]

If Shaq played all season, he should have been MVP in 98.

He should have won it in 01.

Dirk and Duncan were my picks for 05.

Nash in 06.

Dirk in 07.

[Real14]

If Shaq played all season, he should have been MVP in 98.

He should have won it in 01.

Dirk and Duncan were my picks for 05.

Nash in 06.

Dirk in 07.

:oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

If Shaq played all season, he should have been MVP in 98.

He should have won it in 01.

Dirk and Duncan were my picks for 05.

Nash in 06.

Dirk in 07.

Pretty much..

Shaq had a good case in '98 and '99 also.. Dude was an option so many times but only won it once in perhaps the GOAT season..

[T_L_P]

:oldlol:

Shaq was killing it in 98. Only played 60 games and Jordan played all 82 so it rightly went to him.

Shaq or AI? Tough decision.

Nash made 2nd seed with his second best player missing the year. Great leader, made everyone better. :confusedshrug:

[Real14]

Shaq was killing it in 98. Only played 60 games and Jordan played all 82 so it rightly went to him.

Shaq or AI? Tough decision.

Nash made 2nd seed with his second best player missing the year. Great leader, made everyone better. :confusedshrug:

Jordan was gonna win anyway, plus everyone know that it might of been Jordan's last season plus the bulls were number 1 in the east too, so I think Shaq had no chance of getting that trophy. Shaq was great in 01 but the fact that Iverson led a horrible team to the finals and being number 1 definitely puts him over Shaq. Shaq had 01 kobe too. Nash still didn't deserve 06, there was others that were better.

[juju151111]

Jordan was gonna win anyway, plus everyone know that it might of been Jordan's last season plus the bulls were number 1 in the east too, so I think Shaq had no chance of getting that trophy. Shaq was great in 01 but the fact that Iverson led a horrible team to the finals and being number 1 definitely puts him over Shaq. Shaq had 01 kobe too. Nash still didn't deserve 06, there was others that were better.
The MVP is regular season. What Iverson did in the Postseason means nothing.

[Real14]

The MVP is regular season. What Iverson did in the Postseason means nothing.
I'm just saying he deserved it more because he had less help, Shaq had a 01 kobe playing with him, Iverson had nobody near 01 kobe's level that season.

[Hey Yo]

If Shaq played all season, he should have been MVP in 98.

He should have won it in 01.

Dirk and Duncan were my picks for 05.

Nash in 06.

Dirk in 07.
Both had a case but hard to ignore what Nash did for the PHX franchise compared to what they achieved the year before they acquired him.

[Hey Yo]

Jordan was gonna win anyway, plus everyone know that it might of been Jordan's last season plus the bulls were number 1 in the east too, so I think Shaq had no chance of getting that trophy. Shaq was great in 01 but the fact that Iverson led a horrible team to the finals and being number 1 definitely puts him over Shaq. Shaq had 01 kobe too. Nash still didn't deserve 06, there was others that were better.
Jesus....:facepalm

How long have you been watching the NBA??

[Real14]

Jesus....:facepalm

How long have you been watching the NBA??
read my post above your last two posts.

[G-train]

Kobe should of won in 06. 05 definitely didn't belong to Shaq.:facepalm :facepalm

If you were following basketball in 2005, you would know that Shaq was the HEAVY favorite to be MVP until the last few weeks of the season.
The media then worked themselves into a frenzy on Nash and he won it in an upset... 1066 votes to 1032.
Shaq was the MVP favorite basically all season, and in the eyes of the vast majority of observers was the best player in the NBA by a considerable margin.
Any other analysis of the situation in factually incorrect.

[Real14]

If you were following basketball in 2005, you would know that Shaq was the HEAVY favorite to be MVP until the last few weeks of the season.
The media then worked themselves into a frenzy on Nash and he won it in an upset... 1066 votes to 1032.
Shaq was the MVP favorite basically all season, and in the eyes of the vast majority of observers was the best player in the NBA by a considerable margin.
Any other analysis of the situation in factually incorrect.

Shaq was top 5 but definitely was not the favorite.

[TheMarkMadsen]

After the malice in the palace 3 straight white guys win MVP..

Yeah no coincedence..

[oarabbus]

After the malice in the palace 3 straight white guys win MVP..

Yeah no coincedence..

Some next level conspiracy shit right here.

[G-train]

Shaq was top 5 but definitely was not the favorite.

Ok, George W. Bush wasn't President in 2005.

That is a similar statement to yours above.

[$LakerGold]

Here's the full episodes btw.

http://www.veoh.com/list/u/iamse7en

[Nikola_]

Where full episode at

[Real14]

Ok, George W. Bush wasn't President in 2005.

That is a similar statement to yours above.
Come on man, Shaq wasn't all of that in 05:coleman:

[Round Mound]

MVP does not = best player.

Shaq was the best player of the early 2000s

[G-train]

Come on man, Shaq wasn't all of that in 05:coleman:

I don't think you followed the NBA then.
I vividly recall the goings on of that season and Shaq was the clear favorite for the MVP.
He made the Heat the best team in the East, a 16 win increase.
He averaged 23/10 and his overall impact was huge.

Nash was arguably the second best player on his team.
It was an absurd MVP vote.

[FKAri]

I don't think you followed the NBA then.
I vividly recall the goings on of that season and Shaq was the clear favorite for the MVP.
He made the Heat the best team in the East, a 16 win increase.
He averaged 23/10 and his overall impact was huge.

Nash was arguably the second best player on his team.
It was an absurd MVP vote.

lmao. Then why did the Suns play a million times worse with Nash on the bench compared to Amare on the bench. Hell look at how the Suns did w/o Amare at all the next year.

[Cold soul]

Shaq should of won MVP in years 01, and 05. But 2006? No chance.

[G-train]

lmao. Then why did the Suns play a million times worse with Nash on the bench compared to Amare on the bench. Hell look at how the Suns did w/o Amare at all the next year.

Stoudemire averaged 26/9 with 1.6 blocks on 56%.
He was a dominant force.
How many minutes a game were Nash and Stoudemire not on court together? What other players were on the court?

Diaw, Marion and Bell had fantastic seasons in 06. Yet all hail the PG and his 10apg in the high possession offence that Chris Duhon averaged 7 apg in.

Nash had a great season, but he couldn't carry Shaq's nuts@ck into the arena let alone impact the game more.

And the FACT remains, Shaq WAS favorite in 05, and it was a HUGE media driven UPSET.
That FACT is not changed by revisionist statements from teenagers that didn't even follow the NBA that year.
I still have numerous games, one with 2 weeks to go in the season, where commentators don't even mention Nash when discussing the top candidates for MVP.

[iamgine]

Kenny was totally correct. Eye test, Steve Nash fully deserved those MVPs.

[Real14]

I don't think you followed the NBA then.
I vividly recall the goings on of that season and Shaq was the clear favorite for the MVP.
He made the Heat the best team in the East, a 16 win increase.
He averaged 23/10 and his overall impact was huge.

Nash was arguably the second best player on his team.
It was an absurd MVP vote.
I did follow the league, Duncan to me seemed like he was better than shaq back then in 05. Just saying.

[Replay32]

I don't think you followed the NBA then.
I vividly recall the goings on of that season and Shaq was the clear favorite for the MVP.
He made the Heat the best team in the East, a 16 win increase.
He averaged 23/10 and his overall impact was huge.

Nash was arguably the second best player on his team.
It was an absurd MVP vote.

This guy gets it. Shaq is half right. lol. He should of won it in 05. Not 06. Nash didn't deserve back to back MVP's.

[Genaro]

05 was Shaq's and 06 Kobe's.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

05 shouldve been Shaqs
06 shouldve been Dirk or Kobe

Nash winning b2b is one of the biggest jokes/disgraces in NBA history

[FLDFSU]

There is this thing called defense.

Steve Trash didn't deserve crap.

[HEAT111]

Shaq has 4 rings, end of story.

[Real14]

Shaq has 4 rings, end of story.
3 earned rings well maybe 2 earned.

[iamgine]

It seems not many people watched Steve Nash back then.

He was, individually and team-wise, one of the most unstoppable offensive force of all time. Of..all..time.

Calling the MVPs undeserving would be like calling Magic Johnson's MVPs undeserving. Sure there are other people who also deserve to win but Steve Nash also fully deserve those MVPs.

[ImKobe]

Shaq was killing it in 98. Only played 60 games and Jordan played all 82 so it rightly went to him.

Shaq or AI? Tough decision.

Nash made 2nd seed with his second best player missing the year. Great leader, made everyone better. :confusedshrug:

lol he still had Marion, Diaw, Bell, Kurt Thomas, Eddie House, James Jones

you had so many guys shooting lights out on that fast-paced team, Marion put up 22 & 12 per game with 2 spg 1.7 bpg...

let's not act like Nash had no help (like Kobe) and led a team to the top of the West. You give Kobe that roster and he wins 50+ games easily.

[AirFederer]

Shaq should not argue his own case, it makes him look petty.

Which he is :lol

[PHILA]

Iverson


Philadelphia Inquirer - Feb. 20, 2005

Asked on Friday at a media session for tonight's NBA All-Star Game whom his choice for MVP would be, he didn't hesitate.

"If I had a vote, I would always vote for Shaquille O'Neal every year," Iverson said of the Miami Heat center.

Even over himself?

"Definitely," Iverson said. "I know what I do every year. Everybody else knows. I don't have to toot my horn."

Then he tooted O'Neal's horn.

"I feel Shaquille O'Neal is the most dominant player that I would always love to play with," Iverson said. "That would be my fantasy player to play with. I'm looking forward to playing with him the first time in my life [tonight]."

[Papaya Petee]

Shaq wasnt even the best player on the Heat in 2005 he didnt deserve MVP

[yeaaaman]

How many games did Shaq play that year? Honestly too lazy to look it up.

[houston]

Shaq is have a point........Nash still haven't made NBA Finals lol

[PsychoBe]

How many games did Shaq play that year? Honestly too lazy to look it up.

less than nash

[ILLsmak]

Philadelphia Inquirer - Feb. 20, 2005

Asked on Friday at a media session for tonight's NBA All-Star Game whom his choice for MVP would be, he didn't hesitate.

"If I had a vote, I would always vote for Shaquille O'Neal every year," Iverson said of the Miami Heat center.

Even over himself?

"Definitely," Iverson said. "I know what I do every year. Everybody else knows. I don't have to toot my horn."

Then he tooted O'Neal's horn.

"I feel Shaquille O'Neal is the most dominant player that I would always love to play with," Iverson said. "That would be my fantasy player to play with. I'm looking forward to playing with him the first time in my life [tonight]."

that's whats up.

AI and Shaq would have been deadly. Imagine AI w/ 30 and 10 and Shaq with 30 and 10.

-Smak

[oarabbus]

lol he still had Marion, Diaw, Bell, Kurt Thomas, Eddie House, James Jones

you had so many guys shooting lights out on that fast-paced team, Marion put up 22 & 12 per game with 2 spg 1.7 bpg...

let's not act like Nash had no help (like Kobe) and led a team to the top of the West. You give Kobe that roster and he wins 50+ games easily.

There is this thing called defense.

Steve Trash didn't deserve crap.

Shaq has 4 rings, end of story.


This kind of comment is ridiculous.

How good is Rubio gonna do if K Love stayed on the Twolves this year and got hurt?

How good would CP3 do if Blake didn't play for a year?

Lillard without LMA? If Davis or Bosh were out?


That's what Amar'e was back then. He was the scariest, baddest mother**ker in the league who at times would make you go "Shaq who?" Nash was able to have a career year with Amare unable to play. That's ****ing incredible.

If anyone can make a convincing argument that the 05/06 D Wade-led Heat would be worse off without Shaq than a Suns team without Nash, I'd love to hear it. When you lose a Barkley/Griffin level player and take your team into the playoffs in a brutal west.... you are the most valuable player to your team. That team quite frankly falls apart with no Nash and an injured Amare. Even just no Nash, that team is nothing. MVP is a regular season award, and Nash orchestrated an offense on par with a Stockton or Magic during the regular season.

[houston]

Nash ain't 2 x MVP great IMO

[Verticality]

I am shocked to this day that Shaq only has 1 MVP.

[masonanddixon]

Nash deserved it in 0405, 05-06 should have been dirk, kobe, or wade

[JtotheIzzo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujmWN_HSNcc

Best part is everyone's reaction after Shaq goes "No way"

Ernie at the end... :lol

Maybe Shaq did deserve the MVPs but he still salty like a saltine

Shaq has an argument with Nash's first mvp but he couldn't keep his fat ass on the court for the full season, and the Suns' turnaround was simply too impressive.

[Optimus Prime]

Kobe got robbed in 05-06, not Shaq.

As far as Shaq in 04-05...I could see a case for it, but it's not as clear-cut robbery as Kobe not winning in 05-06.

Nash played for a coach with a system that focused entirely on offense and inflated everybody's numbers. There's also this half of basketball called "defense", which Nash and the Suns never played.

The MVP is kind of a joke anyway and more of a popularity contest. See: Nash's back-to-back MVPs, Rose winning MVP over LeBron, Karl Malone over Jordan because everyone was sick of Jordan winning every year, etc.

:kobe:

[Magic 32]

After the malice in the palace 3 straight white guys win MVP..

Yeah no coincedence..

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/files/t_31062.jpg

I don't think white people necessarily get any benefits in that way.