View Full Version : Why is CA (law wise) such a shitty state?
Jameerthefear
10-06-2014, 11:41 AM
Title.
chosen_one6
10-06-2014, 11:42 AM
Title.
What laws makes you think California is shitty?
I just moved from CA to AZ. CA really is not so bad.
Also, aren't you from Florida? How many crazy shit happens in Florida and people get away with it because of shitty laws? Zimmerman is the most obvious example, but there is way more little things I hear in the news from all the way on the other side of the country.
Jameerthefear
10-06-2014, 11:46 AM
I live in Alabama.
chosen_one6
10-06-2014, 11:48 AM
I live in Alabama.
You still haven't said what laws make California such a bad state.
Sounds like you're just bitter that you live in a shitty state.
I live in Alabama.
I'm not familiar with their laws, but with their reputation as a backwards state, I imagine their laws aren't great either.
You still haven't said what laws makes California such a bad state.
Sounds like you're just bitter that you live in a shitty state.
I'm just surprised he can find innanet assess in that state locked in the late 1800s.
Akrazotile
10-06-2014, 11:51 AM
Also, aren't you from Florida? How many crazy shit happens in Florida and people get away with it because of shitty laws? Zimmerman is the most obvious example, but there is way more little things I hear in the news from all the way on the other side of the country.
You think allowing residents to defend their life and protect their property is shitty laws?
Droid101
10-06-2014, 12:01 PM
Haha, okay bub.
Thorpesaurous
10-06-2014, 12:05 PM
I lived in SD briefly when I was younger. I'm not sure what specifically you're talking about, but I will say California has a lot of shit going on. It's got an international border. An ocean border. Three distinctly unique major cities. The entertainment industry is as unique a one off business as there is in the country, sort of the way gambling is in Nevada and Atlantic City to a lesser extent. And the tech industry is centered there too unlike any other state. There's a huge mixture of cultures unlike any place in the country except for maybe NY. I don't know for sure, but it's probably the biggest international import state in the union, or close to it if not. It does a shitload of farming. Hell, even the climate is all over the place, to the point where the farming is yielding all types of different things depending on where you are.
It should probably be three states.
Nick Young
10-06-2014, 12:06 PM
Everyone who hates on Cali is just jelly. We live in paradise and have the hottest women. People always complain out of jealousy about how good we have it there. Weed is legal and cheap and all produce in our markets is fresh, delicious and Cali grown.
Secretly all the haters wish they could be born Californian.
We da bess.
chosen_one6
10-06-2014, 12:10 PM
Everyone who hates on Cali is just jelly. We live in paradise and have the hottest women. People always complain out of jealousy about how good we have it there. Weed is legal and cheap and all produce in our markets is fresh, delicious and Cali grown.
Secretly all the haters wish they could be born Californian.
We da bess.
I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with you. :rockon:
I lived in SD briefly when I was younger. I'm not sure what specifically you're talking about, but I will say California has a lot of shit going on. It's got an international border. An ocean border. Three distinctly unique major cities. The entertainment industry is as unique a one off business as there is in the country, sort of the way gambling is in Nevada and Atlantic City to a lesser extent. And the tech industry is centered there too unlike any other state. There's a huge mixture of cultures unlike any place in the country except for maybe NY. I don't know for sure, but it's probably the biggest international import state in the union, or close to it if not. It does a shitload of farming. Hell, even the climate is all over the place, to the point where the farming is yielding all types of different things depending on where you are.
It should probably be three states.
well said...
btw me the girls and the dog are gonna road trip SD next spring... spend a couple weeks there seeing things.. mostly around the Black Hills
chosen_one6
10-06-2014, 01:11 PM
well said...
btw me the girls and the dog are gonna road trip SD next spring... spend a couple weeks there seeing things.. mostly around the Black Hills
I've never heard of anything called the Black Hills in San Diego :biggums:
Jameerthefear
10-06-2014, 01:13 PM
well said...
btw me the girls and the dog are gonna road trip SD next spring... spend a couple weeks there seeing things.. mostly around the Black Hills
You and your daughters?
Thorpesaurous
10-06-2014, 01:41 PM
well said...
btw me the girls and the dog are gonna road trip SD next spring... spend a couple weeks there seeing things.. mostly around the Black Hills
I only lived there about 18 months. I came home from Prague shortly after college and headed out there. I was mostly in Pacific Beach, PB, as the locals call it. I went all over the place, but I don't remember it well. I was just starting to remember the Czech Rebublic when I left. It was beautifull, but I wasn't especially crazy about it. It felt like I was spinning my wheels out there. But I may have felt that way irregardless at that point in my life.
I should have also mentioned that San Diego has such an enormous Naval Presence that the state probably has one of the larger federal employee rates in the country too. One more thing that makes it complicated.
theballerFKA Ace
10-06-2014, 02:17 PM
California has so much going for it but I agree, the laws here are stupid. It's like the politicians here try to out do each other on how many dumb laws and taxes they can get passed. I normally vote Democrat, but its kind of nice to see the Democrats lose their super majority because they now have to at least work with Republicans a little to get things passed. They lost their super majority because so many Democrat state senators have have gone to jail, or are going to jail right now. We have prominent politicians who have wrote and co-sponsored strict gun laws that are now going to jail for running guns from China for gawdsake. :facepalm
I think this state would be a lot better, if the politicians here were forced to live by the laws they have passed and voted for.
fiddy
10-06-2014, 02:30 PM
You and your daughters?
Jameer is an ISH vet, still has no clue who gts is :facepalm
Droid101
10-06-2014, 05:07 PM
So, nobody has a single example of why California is so bad "law wise?"
Typical.
NumberSix
10-06-2014, 05:46 PM
So, nobody has a single example of why California is so bad "law wise?"
Typical.
Well, this is a ridiculously broad question. "Law" encompasses too much to just ask as a blanket statement "why is law shitty".
theballerFKA Ace
10-06-2014, 06:12 PM
So, nobody has a single example of why California is so bad "law wise?"
Typical.
There are so many stupid laws here in Cali, you could go on forever but for the sake of time and space, let's take the latest stupid state controversial law here that just passed a few days ago. The no plastic bags law.
It was supposed to be done in the name of the environment. But the unions and grocers complained, so some kind of backroom deal is done, and now we have the worst of both worlds because the grocery chains will still sell plastic bags, but for $.10 each. The cost of each heavier duty "reusable" bag is estimated at $.02 so this is going to be a huge windfall for the grocers. The biggest loser is now going to be the consumer who has to pay for these bags. The environment isn't going to far much better, as some people will use reusable plastic bags but most won't, and now instead of the lightweight bags that easily break down in the sun, we are going to have these thick @ss bags which take 10 times as long to break down.
If the government was concerned about the consumer, they wouldn't have done anything. If the government was concerned about the environment, they would have made paper only bags available. But instead they have decided to screw both and make the wealthy shareholders of the grocery chains even wealthier.
Droid101
10-06-2014, 06:17 PM
There are so many stupid laws here in Cali, you could go on forever but for the sake of time and space, let's take the latest stupid state controversial law here that just passed a few days ago. The no plastic bags law.
It was supposed to be done in the name of the environment. But the unions and grocers complained, so some kind of backroom deal is done, and now we have the worst of both worlds because the grocery chains will still sell plastic bags, but for $.10 each. The cost of each heavier duty "reusable" bag is estimated at $.02 so this is going to be a huge windfall for the grocers. The biggest loser is now going to be the consumer who has to pay for these bags. The environment isn't going to far much better, as some people will use reusable plastic bags but most won't, and now instead of the lightweight bags that easily break down in the sun, we are going to have these thick @ss bags which take 10 times as long to break down.
Or... just use reusable bags, which I already do (and so do most people).
There are so many stupid laws here in Cali, you could go on forever but for the sake of time and space, let's take the latest stupid state controversial law here that just passed a few days ago. The no plastic bags law.
It was supposed to be done in the name of the environment. But the unions and grocers complained, so some kind of backroom deal is done, and now we have the worst of both worlds because the grocery chains will still sell plastic bags, but for $.10 each. The cost of each heavier duty "reusable" bag is estimated at $.02 so this is going to be a huge windfall for the grocers. The biggest loser is now going to be the consumer who has to pay for these bags. The environment isn't going to far much better, as some people will use reusable plastic bags but most won't, and now instead of the lightweight bags that easily break down in the sun, we are going to have these thick @ss bags which take 10 times as long to break down.
If the government was concerned about the consumer, they wouldn't have done anything. If the government was concerned about the environment, they would have made paper only bags available. But instead they have decided to screw both and make the wealthy shareholders of the grocery chains even wealthier.
A law such as that is annoying, but it is for the greater good. Even before that state law, Huntington Beach didn't use plastic bags and brown paper bags cost $.10. My gf and I simply bought a few bags on one trip, and then kept those paper bags in the drunk of our cars. That way when we went shopping in the future, we simply brought those bags in to reuse them and it wasn't a big deal.
Well, this is a ridiculously broad question. "Law" encompasses too much to just ask as a blanket statement "why is law shitty".
Well, the OP asked a broad question that should be able to be narrowed down to a few examples. If I stated a basketball player is terrible, that is a broad statement, but I should be able to provide some examples of why I think that.
A law such as that is annoying, but it is for the greater good. Even before that state law, Huntington Beach didn't use plastic bags and brown paper bags cost $.10. My gf and I simply bought a few bags on one trip, and then kept those paper bags in the drunk of our cars. That way when we went shopping in the future, we simply brought those bags in to reuse them and it wasn't a big deal.
Yeah we've been no plastic bags in our area of LA County for 2 years now... it's fine once you get used to it and REMEMBER to bring the damn bags along with you...lol It's not a big deal.. something people will whine about for a few months, then a couple years down the road nobody thinks anything about it.
I've never heard of anything called the Black Hills in San Diego nah I spaced out..lol I was on a conference call, reading ISH and pretending to pay attention to the call... me and the little one spent some time this weekend laying out our road trip, saw thorps post where he used SD and my mind jumped to South Dakota not San Diego...
I've never heard of anything called the Black Hills in San Diego :biggums:
He meant Blacks Beach.
He meant Blacks Beach.
nah read above you, i misfired out on that one... :lol I meant The black Hills of South Dakota....
So anyone been to South Dakota, recommendations?
theballerFKA Ace
10-06-2014, 07:41 PM
A law such as that is annoying, but it is for the greater good. Even before that state law, Huntington Beach didn't use plastic bags and brown paper bags cost $.10. My gf and I simply bought a few bags on one trip, and then kept those paper bags in the drunk of our cars. That way when we went shopping in the future, we simply brought those bags in to reuse them and it wasn't a big deal.
But paper bags were the only options. The grocery chains and unions fought for plastic bags to be included, which most people will opt for the plastic as it holds up better. It estimated that between 25-50% will still pay the dime for the plastic bags. So you will have less plastic bags out there, but they will much worse for the environment than the current ones. Go to Whole Foods, Trader Joes, or Gelson's and you will see people reusing their bags, but it's a rarity in places like Food4Less or Cardenas. In fact, I can't ever remember seeing anyone ever use a non-disposable bag at Food4Less or Cardenas. Like I said, the real winners with this law are the grocers who get a 3-400% profit on the bags.
MrC1991
10-06-2014, 07:41 PM
I live in Indiana still has the dry state law on Sundays. The **** is that? How many other states still do that? I drive 20 - 30 minutes to Michigan or Illinois on Sunday for beer.
Droid101
10-06-2014, 07:43 PM
. it's fine once you get used to it and REMEMBER to bring the damn bags along with you...l..
Even then it doesn't matter. I'm seeing places that actually give away the nice reusable ones for free... but they're sponsored!
I was at Ralph's last weekend and they gave us a free re-usable bag advertising Fox's new show Gotham!
Like I care. I'll take the free bag.
Crown&Coke
10-06-2014, 07:48 PM
I live in Indiana still has the dry state law on Sundays. The **** is that? How many other states still do that? I drive 20 - 30 minutes to Michigan or Illinois on Sunday for beer.
:lol
I know parts of the South still have dry counties. I went on a fishing trip to Mississippi and went to a liquor store to get some brews for fishing. Guy was like nope we are a dry county, you have to go 2 blocks that way to buy beer. Shit seemed odd to me but its like that.
Miss. was pretty cool other than the bugs the size of my arm and snakes freakin everywhere
Even then it doesn't matter. I'm seeing places that actually give away the nice reusable ones for free... but they're sponsored!
I was at Ralph's last weekend and they gave us a free re-usable bag advertising Fox's new show Gotham!
Like I care. I'll take the free bag. I got two of those, the jumper cables fit perfectly... :lol
MrC1991
10-06-2014, 08:00 PM
:lol
I know parts of the South still have dry counties. I went on a fishing trip to Mississippi and went to a liquor store to get some brews for fishing. Guy was like nope we are a dry county, you have to go 2 blocks that way to buy beer. Shit seemed odd to me but its like that.
Miss. was pretty cool other than the bugs the size of my arm and snakes freakin everywhere
lmao I'd take a dry county law over a dry state any day of the week.
theballerFKA Ace
10-06-2014, 08:02 PM
Yeah we've been no plastic bags in our area of LA County for 2 years now... it's fine once you get used to it and REMEMBER to bring the damn bags along with you...lol It's not a big deal.. something people will whine about for a few months, then a couple years down the road nobody thinks anything about it.
Which has nothing to do with the California law. Plastic bags are not banned, they just charge you for them now with an obscene profit and they are now worse for the environment. But the environmentalists look like the score a victory on the surface, the rich corporations get richer and the consumers take it in the @ss....again.
Which has nothing to do with the California law. Plastic bags are not banned, they just charge you for them now with an obscene profit and they are now worse for the environment. But the environmentalists look like the score a victory on the surface, the rich corporations get richer and the consumers take it in the @ss....again.
mmm the way I read it is the single use bags are banned, you can buy paper bags for .10 and the plastic bags you put veggies and meats in will still be available but those bags your food/stuff is put in during checkout are on their way out by 2016
at least that's the way it is in my area... we haven't had those checkout plastic bags for two years now and the state law mirrors the one we've been operating off of.. we were the crash test dummies
ALBballer
10-07-2014, 10:09 AM
The regulations in California are considered "business unfriendly."
Cali does have some weird whacky liberals but I actually like it. There are bike lanes everywhere in Cali, HOV lanes on almost all highways, etc but these aren't necessarily laws per se. But there are other weird laws like pornstars have to wear condoms when shooting in Cali.
ItsMillerTime
10-07-2014, 10:13 AM
I live in Indiana still has the dry state law on Sundays. The **** is that? How many other states still do that? I drive 20 - 30 minutes to Michigan or Illinois on Sunday for beer.
Indiana is the only state that won't sell beer on Sundays. Pretty retarded. Just do like me and stock up Saturday night.
:cheers:
senelcoolidge
10-07-2014, 10:15 AM
California is one of the states I'm considering moving to, but yeah I don't like the politics there. If you can ignore them and live peacefully than fine, but if they make your life harder than I wouldn't like it.
Droid101
10-07-2014, 12:16 PM
lmao I'd take a dry county law over a dry state any day of the week.
Yeah, any state that has areas where I can't get booze, that's retarded.
Even Colorado only sells actual liquor in liquor stores. In California you can go to any super market and get anything, until 2AM.
Yeah, any state that has areas where I can't get booze, that's retarded.
Even Colorado only sells actual liquor in liquor stores. In California you can go to any super market and get anything, until 2AM.
You can only get liquor in Oregon at liquor stores too, and most close at 7pm. Was really annoying in college if you wanted a last minute party.
Droid101
10-07-2014, 12:26 PM
You can only get liquor in Oregon at liquor stores too, and most close at 7pm. Was really annoying in college if you wanted a last minute party.
Seriously, what good are laws like that? You only punish people who aren't good planners.
Jailblazers7
10-07-2014, 12:48 PM
You can only get liquor in Oregon at liquor stores too, and most close at 7pm. Was really annoying in college if you wanted a last minute party.
PA is the same way except that they limit beer distribution too. Can't pick-up a 6 pack at most supermarkets and they don't sell beer at convenience stores/gas stations.
Droid101
10-07-2014, 01:04 PM
PA is the same way except that they limit beer distribution too. Can't pick-up a 6 pack at most supermarkets and they don't sell beer at convenience stores/gas stations.
How do you live? Serious question. How do you live?
Jailblazers7
10-07-2014, 01:48 PM
How do you live? Serious question. How do you live?
I moved to a part of Pittsburgh that has probably 50+ bars within walking distance. Problem solved.
Nick Young
10-07-2014, 01:55 PM
PA is the same way except that they limit beer distribution too. Can't pick-up a 6 pack at most supermarkets and they don't sell beer at convenience stores/gas stations.
:facepalm
Droid101
10-07-2014, 04:10 PM
I moved to a part of Pittsburgh that has probably 50+ bars within walking distance. Problem solved.
Whew.
boozehound
10-07-2014, 04:38 PM
Indiana is the only state that won't sell beer on Sundays. Pretty retarded. Just do like me and stock up Saturday night.
:cheers:
uhm........ You sure on that? Do you mean just beer or liquor/wine/etc?
Most states have stupid blue laws.
ItsMillerTime
10-07-2014, 04:52 PM
uhm........ You sure on that? Do you mean just beer or liquor/wine/etc?
Most states have stupid blue laws.
Yeah, Indiana will not allow beer/liquor/wine sales on Sunday (except for bars). So you either have to stock up Saturday night or go to a bar on Sunday.
BasedTom
10-08-2014, 01:36 AM
I live in Indiana still has the dry state law on Sundays. The **** is that? How many other states still do that? I drive 20 - 30 minutes to Michigan or Illinois on Sunday for beer.
FL only has like 1 or 2 dry counties and they're both in the Panhandle region (near the alabama border).
I honestly couldn't imagine how anyone could live in a state where the vast majority of the land (or even the entirety like your example) was under those rules.
Balla_Status
10-08-2014, 06:41 AM
I like the overtime laws there....by day instead of by week. I was killing it when I was putting in 24 hrs when I worked in bake-o.
JohnnySic
10-08-2014, 07:44 AM
What's the big deal? Can't go one day without drinking? :confusedshrug:
Thorpesaurous
10-08-2014, 07:50 AM
We had pretty hard core blue laws in CT for a long time. No booze, just beer in Grocery stores, which I think isn't illegal anymore, but still no one carries booze. No liquor stores open on Sundays, or hollidays, and all closed at 8pm. Bars close at 1am Sunday through Thursday. 2am Friday and Saturday.
Now they've changed it so that the liquor stores can be open on holidays and Sundays, which most are.
I'm about an hour outside of NY, and I know that those laws killed a few people. Because the NY bars stay open until 4am. And they have more access to booze. So I know more than my share of people who scampered out of CT bars looking for more fun and drove their way across the border only to have had to make it back after 4. Had the CT bars just stayed open, it would've kept people who were already going to make bad decisions keep from doing it with a commute.
And when my father was young, the drinking age in NY was only 18, but 21 in CT, which I'm sure was a huge problem.
JebronLames
10-08-2014, 08:21 AM
Age of consent is 18 :facepalm
Only 16 in my state.
MrC1991
10-08-2014, 09:38 AM
Here in Massachusetts, anytime over 12 hours in a day you get OT for anything after 8 hours so it ends up being 8 regular paid plus 4 OT pay.
At my old workplace, if I was doing at least 12, I always punch out 15-30 minutes after just to get that 4+ hours of OT. My current employers don't use punch clocks, so I can't do that. Only way to get OT is if I doing 16.
I got a union job so anytime after 8 hours is OT and on sundays its time and a half or doubletime on holidays. :cheers:
Droid101
10-08-2014, 11:41 AM
What's the big deal? Can't go one day without drinking? :confusedshrug:
**** no and the government shouldn't tell me that regardless.
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