View Full Version : OKC Average Age - 24.6 years old
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 02:09 PM
If you rank them from top to bottom of the playoff contenders in the Western Conference, here is their average age for their top eight players:
31 - Memphis
30.6 - SA
29.8 - Dallas
29. 1 - Portland
29 - LAC
27.5 - Denver, Golden State
26.5 - Phoenix
25.9 - New Orleans
25.5 - Houston
24.6 - Oklahoma City
That's right, Oklahoma City is the youngest team in the Western Conference playoff picture! They are younger than the Suns and the Pellies! Think about that for a second - even if PHX and NO miss the playoffs this season, there will still be a narrative around them that they are young teams paying their dues in a stacked conference. The Thunder are a championship or bust team and they have an average age of less than 25.
The numbers given above are from an article that I just read earlier today.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 02:14 PM
It's because they finally got rid of the old guys that were jacking their average age up like Fisher, Sefolosha, and Butler.
Soon Collison will be gone too. Rookie PF Mitch McGary is looking like a beast.
Joyner82reload
10-06-2014, 02:15 PM
If they amnesty Perkins, they would be the youngest team in the ENTIRE NBA
If they keep this team together, the championship window is 10 years
russwest0
10-06-2014, 02:15 PM
If they amnesty Perkins, they would be the 2nd youngest team in the entire western conference behind only Utah
Perkins will be replaced by Pleiss next season and Collison will be replaced by McGary.
GM Sam Presti has done a great job of layering young talent into this roster.
Duggrr
10-06-2014, 02:16 PM
I'm really surprised GS is that young
NugzFan
10-06-2014, 02:18 PM
Average age doesn't mean anything. It needs to be weighted by mpg. I'm sure okc is young but that data in the OP means nothing.
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 02:23 PM
Average age doesn't mean anything. It needs to be weighted by mpg. I'm sure okc is young but that data in the OP means nothing.
How old do you think players like Reggie Jackson, Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant, Stephen Adams, Jeremy Lamb, Andre Roberson and Ibaka are?
None of those players are over 26 years of age and will be getting huge chunks of that playing time. The only two old players in the rotation is Kendrick Perkins and Nick Collison, and each of them will see their minutes and roles reduced this year.
NugzFan
10-06-2014, 03:45 PM
Great. So weight the ages by mpg and okc will look even better
But the stat in the OP means nothing.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 03:48 PM
Roberson is a player I'm more and more intrigued by.
He had a ridiculously high DRTG last year for a rookie and apparently has looked really good in camp so far.
He was the best rebounder in all of college basketball and won defensive player of the year in his conference and he's probably the favorite to start at shooting guard for OKC right now.
It just sucks because he can't shoot the 3 very well and thats clearly what would benefit Westbrook most in the backcourt.
Marchesk
10-06-2014, 03:49 PM
If they keep this team together, the championship window is 10 years
Yes, this. If. So what's the window on Durant and Westbrook staying? That's the real question. Otherwise, doesn't matter.
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 04:09 PM
It will be interesting to see if this newly announced television contract worth $24 billion helps or hurts small-market teams like Oklahoma City in keeping their teams intact.
This new television contract triples the revenue from their television contract and can easily cause contract to double or triple in the next couple of years for all players.
JonatanRey
10-06-2014, 04:10 PM
OKC chances to win a title has decreased in the last 3 years. What a shame. They could have Russ, Harden, Durant, Green and Ibaka. Traded Harden for nothing and Green for a toxic contract.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 04:11 PM
Traded Harden for nothing
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
People need to stop with this shit
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 04:11 PM
[QUOTE=NugzFan]Great. So weight the ages by mpg and okc will look even better
But the stat in the OP means nothing.
Kendrick Perkins and Nick Collison are the only two players 30 years of age or older, and each of them will probably only play 12 to 15 minutes per game.
AboutBuckets
10-06-2014, 04:13 PM
If OKC doesn't at least make it to the finals in the next 2 years before the TV deal kicks in, Durant's going to sign the largest contract in NBA history elsewhere.
JonatanRey
10-06-2014, 04:14 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
People need to stop with this shit
What is the production they have got from that trade? were is kevin martin?who is jeremy lamb? who is steven adams? Sorry for calling that nothing, but compared to Harden, thats what it looks like.
Genaro
10-06-2014, 04:16 PM
Championship or bust is due to the level of talent not the ages. I don't know if their window is so large cause with Brook and KD expiring soon you never know if they'll stay if they don't win a ship in the next few years.
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 04:17 PM
OKC chances to win a title has decreased in the last 3 years. What a shame. They could have Russ, Harden, Durant, Green and Ibaka. Traded Harden for nothing and Green for a toxic contract.
But James Harden trade will probably be argued about from now until kingdom come because trading the top 10 or 15 player just as he's entering his prime is almost unheard of and rarely happens. However, it is still too soon to really know who the winner of that trade is.
But the Jeff Green trade made absolute sense at the time and I was fully in favor of it, especially considering the top team in the conference at the time was Los Angeles Lakers and they needed to get stronger on the interior. But Sam Presti did make a mistake by offering him before a large contract extension before he was fully recovered from his knee surgery. The mistake was at making the trade, it was paying him that large contract before they knew what they really had an overpaying for him.
Trading Jeff Green was absolutely the right move and James Harden trade will be forever controversial.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 04:19 PM
Presti traded Jeff Green because OKC had Ibaka who needed more minutes for his development.
And as bad as Perkins is he at least gave us some sort of stability at the center position when before we had total dogshit rotating in and out there.
JonatanRey
10-06-2014, 04:24 PM
But James Harden trade will probably be argued about from now until kingdom come because trading the top 10 or 15 player just as he's entering his prime is almost unheard of and rarely happens. However, it is still too soon to really know who the winner of that trade is.
But the Jeff Green trade made absolute sense at the time and I was fully in favor of it, especially considering the top team in the conference at the time was Los Angeles Lakers and they needed to get stronger on the interior. But Sam Presti did make a mistake by offering him before a large contract extension before he was fully recovered from his knee surgery. The mistake was at making the trade, it was paying him that large contract before they knew what they really had an overpaying for him.
Trading Jeff Green was absolutely the right move and James Harden trade will be forever controversial.
Kevin Martin was a rental. Jeremy Lamb is a prospect. They gave up a borderline superstar. I dont think its soon to know.
We could argue about Green and our postures are not far. Agree they needed a defensive presence alongside Ibaka but you could get that at a much cheaper price than a potential sixth man of the year. Paying that kind of money... They compromised their future.
bdreason
10-06-2014, 04:36 PM
Young teams don't win championships.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 04:38 PM
People still tripping over that "James Harden is a STAR!" shit :roll:
The dude was whining at lack of touches as the 3rd option. No way in hell I wanted his ass here and I'm beyond happy with Adams, Lamb, McGary, and the Kevin Martin rental + TPE we got out of that trade. Don't forget the cap space as well that will potentially allow us to keep someone like Reggie Jackson.
NugzFan
10-06-2014, 04:53 PM
[QUOTE=NugzFan]Great. So weight the ages by mpg and okc will look even better
But the stat in the OP means nothing.
Kendrick Perkins and Nick Collison are the only two players 30 years of age or older, and each of them will probably only play 12 to 15 minutes per game.
So the averages you posted do not include the 10-13th men on the team?
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 04:54 PM
People still tripping over that "James Harden is a STAR!" shit :roll:
The dude was whining at lack of touches as the 3rd option. No way in hell I wanted his ass here and I'm beyond happy with Adams, Lamb, McGary, and the Kevin Martin rental + TPE we got out of that trade. Don't forget the cap space as well that will potentially allow us to keep someone like Reggie Jackson.
Also, isn't Alex Abrines part of that James Harden trade? He was selected early in the second round and I thought that pick came over from Houston as part of that trade, so he should be the fourth player.
He is only 20 or 21 years old himself and Oklahoma City hold his rights.
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 05:04 PM
[QUOTE=SOD 21]
So the averages you posted do not include the 10-13th men on the team?
My original post clearly says their top eight players, the same is true with every other team listed with their top eight players, and the numbers were provided from an article that I read earlier today. The overall age of the entire roster is 25.4 years old, which is still ridiculously young.
Also, there are two oldest players on the roster are both on the final year of their contract.
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 05:07 PM
Young teams don't win championships.
This has historically been very true. Oklahoma City is attempting to do something almost unheard of, which is win a championship now and continuously build for the future simultaneously.
There is no question that they need rapid improvement by Steven Adams, Jeremy Lamb, Andre Roberson and Perry Jones this season. I don't include Reggie Jackson in that group because he's already proven.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 05:13 PM
Also, isn't Alex Abrines part of that James Harden trade? He was selected early in the second round and I thought that pick came over from Houston as part of that trade, so he should be the fourth player.
He is only 20 or 21 years old himself and Oklahoma City hold his rights.
Yeah he could be a great player down the road as well. I know the Utah Jazz were trying to trade for his rights a while back because he has been developing nicely overseas.
JonatanRey
10-06-2014, 05:38 PM
Yeah he could be a great player down the road as well. I know the Utah Jazz were trying to trade for his rights a while back because he has been developing nicely overseas.
Im starting to ignore this thread since you are saying its a good trade to OKC bringing the name of Alex Abrines. Are we still talking about James Harden?
SOD 21
10-06-2014, 05:41 PM
Yeah he could be a great player down the road as well. I know the Utah Jazz were trying to trade for his rights a while back because he has been developing nicely overseas.
Abrines is playing for FC Barcelona, which is one of the best teams in Europe. He averaged 8 points per game last season on 47% field-goal percentage and 42% on three-point shots in just about 18 minutes per game and he was only 20 years old last year.
He is progressing nicely and will liky join Oklahoma City within the next two or three years. Of course, I expect Tibor Pleiss next season as a replacement for Kendrick Perkins on the roster.
russwest0
10-06-2014, 05:42 PM
Im starting to ignore this thread since you are saying its a good trade to OKC bringing the name of Alex Abrines. Are we still talking about James Harden?
Abrines doesn't even matter, I'd rather have Steven Adams by himself at 10M a year than have to have Harden's ass on a max deal. Martin, Lamb, McGary, and Abrines are just the added bonuses.
StrongLurk
10-06-2014, 05:55 PM
Won't matter since Durant is leaving anyways
NugzFan
10-06-2014, 07:47 PM
[QUOTE=NugzFan]
My original post clearly says their top eight players, the same is true with every other team listed with their top eight players, and the numbers were provided from an article that I read earlier today. The overall age of the entire roster is 25.4 years old, which is still ridiculously young.
Also, there are two oldest players on the roster are both on the final year of their contract.
Your right. Don't know how I missed that.
inclinerator
10-06-2014, 07:53 PM
average age of championship teams are in the 30s
andremiller07
10-07-2014, 02:13 AM
Still doesn't change the fact they only have 2 players on the roster, just cause they are young does not mean any of the other players are actually any good. Average age is just a number does not take into account talent and players that actually impact games.
LongLiveTheKing
10-07-2014, 02:27 AM
Stacked, no excuses.
Le Shaqtus
10-07-2014, 02:30 AM
Stacked, no excuses.
With what? A bunch of kids? :oldlol:
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