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Heavincent
10-10-2014, 02:05 PM
I didn't know it was this bad
Isaiah Canaan
Jason Terry
Francisco Garcia
Jeff Adrian
Joey Dorsey
Worst bench in the league? I don't see how they make the playoffs in a historically stacked conference with such bad depth.
Proctor
10-10-2014, 02:29 PM
Even if they make it, they're going to get bounced. They're just not that good.
Kidbasketball20
10-10-2014, 02:30 PM
I told y'all they won't even make the playoffs. This team is a disaster and will desperately miss Parsons/Lin/Asik.
Inn before Smoove meltdown incoming.
choppermagic
10-10-2014, 02:37 PM
I didn't know it was this bad
Isaiah Canaan
Jason Terry
Francisco Garcia
Jeff Adrian
Joey Dorsey
Worst bench in the league? I don't see how they make the playoffs in a historically stacked conference with such bad depth.
Wow. Is it bad that i even had to look up a couple of those guys up on Google?
Milbuck
10-10-2014, 02:39 PM
It's okay though, they have bench players in their starting lineup as well. So their bench isn't that bad.
Haymaker
10-10-2014, 02:39 PM
Their starting five is nothing special either apart from Dwight and Harden.
Kidbasketball20
10-10-2014, 02:52 PM
Their starting five is nothing special either apart from Dwight..
Fixed.
Bev would only start in Houston with Harden's terrible D. At BEST a role player.
Harden is the worst starting SG in the league defensively.
T Jones is one of the worst SF's in the league against above average PF's.
and Ariza is a good defender. Above average, but a downgrade offensively over Parsons.
McHale will either be gone by All Star Break or the end of the season.
StephHamann
10-10-2014, 03:17 PM
Fixed.
Bev would only start in Houston with Harden's terrible D. At BEST a role player.
Harden is the worst starting SG in the league defensively.
T Jones is one of the worst SF's in the league against above average PF's.
and Ariza is a good defender. Above average, but a downgrade offensively over Parsons.
McHale will either be gone by All Star Break or the end of the season.
Their starting unit can play solid defense.
Just an example against my mavs:
Beverly guards Ellis
Ariza guards Parsons
Howard guards Dirk
so you have Harden on Nelson and Jones on Tyson
it could work :confusedshrug:
Mr Exlax
10-10-2014, 03:21 PM
We are still gonna make the playoffs unless Dwight goes out for an extended amount of time.
KungFuJoe
10-10-2014, 03:24 PM
Perennial first round exit for years to come...at least until they get rid of McHale. They could be the 86 Celtics and McHale would find a way to lose in the first round. Good thing he wasn't coaching them at the time.
Smook A.
10-10-2014, 05:03 PM
3 of the 5 guys you listed will most likely be 3rd stringers.
The bench rotation will probably look something like this...
PG: Ish Smith - Nice passer. Not a good shooter, but he can penetrate very well.
SG: Jason Terry/Troy Daniels - If Terry still has some left in the tank, he can provide some 3's. Same for Troy Daniels. He was shooting lights out in the playoffs.
SF: Kostas Papanikolaou - He came over from Europe. So far in the preseason he's been impressive and he plays very good defense. It's only preseason though
PF: Donatas Motiejunas - He's been with the Rockets for a while now, His game has improved every year. The guy is 7 feet tall and has a pretty smooth post game.
C: Tarik Black/Joey Dorsey - Black has been a nice in the preseason so far. He had 10 points and 15 rebounds last night. Joey Dorsey has yet to play in the preseason, but he's known as a nice defensive player and rebounder.
ArbitraryWater
10-10-2014, 05:08 PM
Yeah, they really ****ed themselves with the departures of Parsons, Asik, and Lin... Ariza is the only valuable return they received.
Their 2nd best player is a cancerous blackhole.
hawkfan
10-10-2014, 05:08 PM
I didn't know it was this bad
Isaiah Canaan
Jason Terry
Francisco Garcia
Jeff Adrian
Joey Dorsey
Worst bench in the league? I don't see how they make the playoffs in a historically stacked conference with such bad depth.
That's Sixers level bad for a bench, but at least the Sixers are losing on purpose.
MP.Trey
10-10-2014, 05:09 PM
I like Papanikolaou (sp?) but outside of that their bench is horrid. Their #3-5 guys in the starting lineups would be bench players on most playoff teams too outside of Ariza probably. Just not a fan of this team at all and wouldn't be shocked to see them land oustide of a playpff spot in the West.
Milbuck
10-10-2014, 05:14 PM
3 of the 5 guys you listed will most likely be 3rd stringers.
The bench rotation will probably look something like this...
PG: Ish Smith - Nice passer. Not a good shooter, but he can penetrate very well.
SG: Jason Terry/Troy Daniels - If Terry still has some left in the tank, he can provide some 3's. Same for Troy Daniels. He was shooting lights out in the playoffs.
SF: Kostas Papanikolaou - He came over from Europe. So far in the preseason he's been impressive and he plays very good defense. It's only preseason though
PF: Donatas Motiejunas - He's been with the Rockets for a while now, His game has improved every year. The guy is 7 feet tall and has a pretty smooth post game.
C: Tarik Black/Joey Dorsey - Black has been a nice in the preseason so far. He had 10 points and 15 rebounds last night. Joey Dorsey has yet to play in the preseason, but he's known as a nice defensive player and rebounder.
:oldlol:
oarabbus
10-10-2014, 05:21 PM
Perennial first round exit for years to come...at least until they get rid of McHale. They could be the 86 Celtics and McHale would find a way to lose in the first round. Good thing he wasn't coaching them at the time.
Better than a 9th/10th seed treadmill team like they were for years and years before that though.
Demitri98
10-10-2014, 05:22 PM
Patrick Beverley/IsaiahCanaan
James Harden/Jason Terry
Trevor Ariza/Francisco Garcia
Terrence Jones/Jeff Adrian
Dwight Howard/Joey Dorsey
:wtf: :biggums:
hawkfan
10-10-2014, 05:30 PM
Patrick Beverley/IsaiahCanaan
James Harden/Jason Terry
Trevor Ariza/Francisco Garcia
Terrence Jones/Jeff Adrian
Dwight Howard/Joey Dorsey
:wtf: :biggums:
If the Rockets can trade for Rondo - say 2 firsts and 2 seconds, plus expirers, then the whole analysis changes.
noob cake
10-10-2014, 05:32 PM
Can't find any gifs of Harden's blown defensive rotation because there hasn't been any?
Let's make a Rockets hate thread.
Actual bench:
Canaan
Garcia
K-Pop
Motiejunas
Dorsey
You got 2/5 of our bench player correct. Protip: If you are going to hate, at least get the bench rotation right.
oarabbus
10-10-2014, 05:35 PM
Can't find any gifs of Harden's blown defensive rotation because there hasn't been any?
Let's make a Rockets hate thread.
Actual bench:
Canaan
Garcia
K-Pop
Motiejunas
Dorsey
You got 2/5 of our bench player correct. Protip: If you are going to hate, at least get the bench rotation right.
Still... Motiejunas is the only player there worth a damn. And I'm not even sure about that one
Borat_Sagdyev
10-10-2014, 05:41 PM
Still... Motiejunas is the only player there worth a damn. And I'm not even sure about that one
You will see that Papanikolau is very good player, something between Budinger and Parsons ;)
RidonKs
10-10-2014, 05:44 PM
yea why the hell are people leaving off papa and dmo? those guys are going to be solid contributors this season by the looks of it.
also, i watched the first half of last nights game against the grizz and harden was putting in good effort on defense. he wasn't playing good defense but he was at least breaking a sweat. i presume he's been very aware of all the mocking that's come from the internet over the past year. i expect improvement from him on that end, even if its only marginal.
3peated
10-10-2014, 05:45 PM
#topheavy
Milbuck
10-10-2014, 05:46 PM
Honestly, is the Bucks bench better than the Rockets bench? I think the starters are gonna be Knight/Middleton/Giannis/Jabari/Sanders...which leaves the bench as:
Kendall Marshall / Nate Wolters
Jerryd Bayless / OJ Mayo
Jared Dudley
Ersan Ilyasova
John Henson / Zaza Pachulia
:confusedshrug:
Kidbasketball20
10-10-2014, 06:09 PM
3 of the 5 guys you listed will most likely be 3rd stringers.
The bench rotation will probably look something like this...
PG: Ish Smith - Nice passer. Not a good shooter, but he can penetrate very well.
SG: Jason Terry/Troy Daniels - If Terry still has some left in the tank, he can provide some 3's. Same for Troy Daniels. He was shooting lights out in the playoffs.
SF: Kostas Papanikolaou - He came over from Europe. So far in the preseason he's been impressive and he plays very good defense. It's only preseason though
PF: Donatas Motiejunas - He's been with the Rockets for a while now, His game has improved every year. The guy is 7 feet tall and has a pretty smooth post game.
C: Tarik Black/Joey Dorsey - Black has been a nice in the preseason so far. He had 10 points and 15 rebounds last night. Joey Dorsey has yet to play in the preseason, but he's known as a nice defensive player and rebounder.
WHATTA LOSER TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE WOAT BENCH :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:
KungFuJoe
10-10-2014, 06:10 PM
Still... Motiejunas is the only player there worth a damn. And I'm not even sure about that one
DMo's defense is awful, he's a bad rebounder and he's pretty soft.
He's skilled in that he can actually handle the rock for his size and pop out for threes but what use is that when you can't shoot very well.
And when you barely make fifty percent of your free throws you're not a good shooter.
If he's the best guy coming off the bench.....damn.
Crown&Coke
10-10-2014, 06:12 PM
that dude Black was grabbing boards and setting picks like a madman. I like him
Kidbasketball20
10-10-2014, 06:27 PM
DMo's defense is awful, he's a bad rebounder and he's pretty soft.
He's skilled in that he can actually handle the rock for his size and pop out for threes but what use is that when you can't shoot very well.
And when you barely make fifty percent of your free throws you're not a good shooter.
If he's the best guy coming off the bench.....damn.
Lin was a major spark plug off the bench last year and they will miss him tremendously when Harden's shot isn't falling.
I've never seen a professional basketball bench so pitiful in my life. The brilliant Morey can do no wrong!
Cocaine80s
10-10-2014, 06:31 PM
Luckily Lin won't be there this year to single handedly cost them playoffs games with retarded bone head plays
Haymaker
10-10-2014, 06:38 PM
Honestly, is the Bucks bench better than the Rockets bench? I think the starters are gonna be Knight/Middleton/Giannis/Jabari/Sanders...which leaves the bench as:
Kendall Marshall / Nate Wolters
Jerryd Bayless / OJ Mayo
Jared Dudley
Ersan Ilyasova
John Henson / Zaza Pachulia
:confusedshrug:
That bench is elite compared to the Rockets.
Honestly, is the Bucks bench better than the Rockets bench? I think the starters are gonna be Knight/Middleton/Giannis/Jabari/Sanders...which leaves the bench as:
Kendall Marshall / Nate Wolters
Jerryd Bayless / OJ Mayo
Jared Dudley
Ersan Ilyasova
John Henson / Zaza Pachulia
:confusedshrug:
That bench is actually really good.
Smook A.
10-10-2014, 07:09 PM
Honestly, is the Bucks bench better than the Rockets bench? I think the starters are gonna be Knight/Middleton/Giannis/Jabari/Sanders...which leaves the bench as:
Kendall Marshall / Nate Wolters
Jerryd Bayless / OJ Mayo
Jared Dudley
Ersan Ilyasova
John Henson / Zaza Pachulia
:confusedshrug:
Solid bench. Especially if OJ Mayo stays healthy this season.
brooks_thompson
10-10-2014, 08:20 PM
tarik black, Mr. Foul. Joey Dorsey, ancestor to Mr. Foul.
That's all I got. Memphis Tigers basketball is frustrating. Thank Dickerson the Grizzlies got good.
KungFuJoe
10-10-2014, 09:10 PM
Luckily Lin won't be there this year to single handedly cost them playoffs games with retarded bone head plays
Or bail harden out in game 2 and win game five for them.
Heavincent
10-11-2014, 02:53 AM
Can't find any gifs of Harden's blown defensive rotation because there hasn't been any?
Let's make a Rockets hate thread.
Actual bench:
Canaan
Garcia
K-Pop
Motiejunas
Dorsey
You got 2/5 of our bench player correct. Protip: If you are going to hate, at least get the bench rotation right.
I looked up the Rockets depth chart and that's what it said :confusedshrug:
Regardless, that bench is not good. It's not "hate", it's an honest observation. The Rocket are thin. Period.
Smook A.
10-11-2014, 02:54 AM
I looked up the Rockets depth chart and that's what it said :confusedshrug:
Regardless, that bench is not good. It's not "hate", it's an honest observation. The Rocket are thin. Period.
Predict their wins
Heavincent
10-11-2014, 02:57 AM
Predict their wins
47, which isn't good enough to make the playoffs in the West.
Perennial first round exit for years to come...at least until they get rid of McHale. They could be the 86 Celtics and McHale would find a way to lose in the first round. Good thing he wasn't coaching them at the time.
Or until they land another FA in the offseason. They're not keeping all that cap flexibility for nothing.
They'll still make the playoffs, with a really, really outside chance of making it to the second round depending on their opponent, but last years team wasnt much better. Only difference between last year and this year, is Houston has lots of money to throw around. Their record will still be similar, their playoff performance will probably be similar.
47, which isn't good enough to make the playoffs in the West.
Their over/under per Vegas is 49.5. Bet the house and win some money :lol
Dont think youd have it in you. I know I wouldnt.
Smook A.
10-11-2014, 03:01 AM
47, which isn't good enough to make the playoffs in the West.
I can respect your opinion. As a Rockets fan, Im gonna have to say that they'll win around 50-52 games this season. At the end of the day, our success all depends on the health of the team.
Milbuck
10-11-2014, 03:01 AM
Or until they land another FA in the offseason. They're not keeping all that cap flexibility for nothing.
Yeah what they really need to do is stop settling for guys who have zero long term future with the team, old, declining vets like Lebron, Melo or Bosh...they need to really go for it and try to sign a bonafide star like Jason Terry or Trevor Ariza.
PleezeBehave
10-11-2014, 06:53 AM
Who cares about their bench? Those are just role players. It's all about Dwight and Harden.
I'm gonna be super excited to see these F-heads fail.
el gringos
10-11-2014, 07:11 AM
I must be the only nick Johnson and motiejunas believer.
brooks_thompson
10-11-2014, 08:58 AM
Most unlikable team, built in the image of a general manager who has a strategy with no human principle behind it. His stat nerdiness resulted in him acquiring as his stars the two nerdiest NBA elites with the same flaws as himself: a lack of spirit and honor. There's gotta be a soul driving the machine and there's not one in Houston.
MiseryCityTexas
10-11-2014, 01:33 PM
I didn't know it was this bad
Isaiah Canaan
Jason Terry
Francisco Garcia
Jeff Adrian
Joey Dorsey
Worst bench in the league? I don't see how they make the playoffs in a historically stacked conference with such bad depth.
Well it's Morey's fault. He coulda signed some much better players for the same price he's paying these bums. I think Kostas Papanikolaou is going to be a really good role player though, and I think Isaiah Canaan's ceiling is at least another Aaron Brooks type of point guard.
STATUTORY
10-11-2014, 01:40 PM
the problem isn't the bench. it's that their core consist of Howard and Harden, two clowns
Kidbasketball20
10-11-2014, 02:15 PM
Or bail harden out in game 2 and win game five for them.
Cocaine80's is a 15 year old virgin. No maturity or intelligence tbh
Kidbasketball20
10-11-2014, 02:15 PM
I can respect your opinion. As a Rockets fan, Im gonna have to say that they'll win around 50-52 games this season. At the end of the day, our success all depends on the health of the team.
What a ****ing idiot. :facepalm Even if they stay healthy they aren't making the playoffs dummy
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