Kobe vs Lebron training in the post with Hakeem:

[CavaliersFTW]

Kobe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_qUfBQzbM

Lebron:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwKwiftfVmA

bulletpoints:

*Kobe looks fluid, picks up on subtleties, gets Hakeem excited by duplicating moves correctly almost immediately.

*Lebron looks mechanical, Hakeem constantly pointing out/explaining his mistakes.

Just interesting to see the natural fluidity of Hakeem and Kobe contrast with Lebron.

[Bandito]

In before the sh1tstorm:oldlol:

[sportjames23]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmyvp2aUwt1qcawqao1_400.gif

[Mr Exlax]

Could be the soccer backgrounds and the slim and trim build.

[STATUTORY]

watching Hakeem and Kobe is like watching The Prestige, two great craftsmen going at it, replicating and improvising on each other's moves

Bron is like a hapless amateur trying to pull the rabbit out of the hat when he's being taught how to do a card trick

[Cocaine80s]

both with better post games than Wilt :applause:

[JT123]

So Kobe is a better shooter, a better dunker, more fluid and graceful, yet Lebron has matched his Finals MVP count by the age of 29? :wtf:
How great is our Bron? On pace to surpass Kobe on the all time list despite Kobe having so many god given physical advantages over Lebron. :applause:

[lakerspng]

So Kobe is a better shooter, a better dunker, more fluid and graceful, yet Lebron has matched his Finals MVP count by the age of 29? :wtf:
How great is our Bron? On pace to surpass Kobe on the all time list despite Kobe having so many god given physical advantages over Lebron. :applause:

LeBron clearly has the god given advantage (athleticism)

Kobe clearly has the man made advantages (skill)

both great players.

[shrempf_on_rice]

Bbbut I thought Kobe the only who study other people's moves?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

GOAT game of horse: Kobe vs Hakeem

[inclinerator]

gotta admit kobe was pretty smoove

[Magic 32]

So Kobe is a better shooter, a better dunker, more fluid and graceful, yet Lebron has matched his Finals MVP count by the age of 29? :wtf:
How great is our Bron?

Wade would have done the same if your god had a spine.

[fpliii]

:applause:

Working with Hakeem, as well as with Grover (he started Summer 07 I believe) played a huge part in those three Finals runs + 2 chips. We might've won anyway in 09, but the next year Kobe was hurting a bit, and didn't seem to be in his athletic prime anymore. His crisp footwork and advanced moves/counters really helped smooth the transition to clinch the repeat.

[AirTupac]

watching Hakeem and Kobe is like watching The Prestige, two great craftsmen going at it, replicating and improvising on each other's moves

Bron is like a hapless amateur trying to pull the rabbit out of the hat when he's being taught how to do a card trick

Repped for referencing a fantastic movie and insulting LeBron at the same time. :applause:

[PsychoBe]

"i gotta do one more dribble?"

yes bran if you dont dribble it's called a travel :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe might be the most skilled player of all time

[DatAsh]

I just think it's incredible to see how quickly Kobe is able to replicate Hakeem's movements.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Kobe might be the most skilled player of all time

I'd say that it's most likely Bird... Kobe's at the very top though, Pistol Pete and MJ too, and a few others...

[sbw19]

Different strengths and weaknesses, it's good to see both players willing to improve their games by learning from the best.

[Prometheus]

It looks like Kobe was going through a sequence of moves they had already drilled individually, whereas LeBron was in the middle of fixing a specific thing he was struggling with, but yeah Kobe looked a lot better.

[Cold soul]

Kobe might be the most skilled player of all time

Easy question, Kobe is without a doubt.

[Prometheus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1oFc5TOuo0

This time Kobe is going over something and missing details. He still looks more graceful than LeBron, but the other comparison was misleading.

[SyRyanYang]

I have

Kobe
Nash
Bird
Mchale
Hakeem

most skilled line-up

[DonDadda59]

Why would this shock anyone? Bron doesn't have the body type or natural fluidity to pull moves like that off without looking awkward as f*ck. Hakeem and Kobe both have that slimmer build while LeBron is built more like Karl Malone, he looks like a f*cking transformer :lol

[Random_Guy]

dammmnnnnn that dreamm stroke

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Easy question, Kobe is without a doubt.
There was no question there. 0/10 effort troll.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Not even tryna troll Lebron easily has the worst footwork and fundamentals of any alltime great i know

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

I have

Kobe
Nash
Bird
Mchale
Hakeem

most skilled line-up
Nash over CP or Stockton:facepalm :facepalm does defense not count as a skill:facepalm :facepalm

Mchale over Dirk, KG or Timmy:facepalm

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Not even tryna troll Lebron easily has the worst footwork and fundamentals of any alltime great i know
This is quite an ignorant, non-specific generalisation.
Basketball has many skills involved, just because you don't find lebron's post moves pretty does not mean he is lacking in fundamentals vs other greats.

[Nash]

all that post training for Kobe yet lebron just came off a season shooting almost 10% higher than Kobe's career best.

[Element]

all that post training for Kobe yet lebron just came off a season shooting almost 10% higher than Kobe's career best.
all those nice shooting percentages yet lebron has 2 rings to Kobe's 5

[lilteapot]

all those nice shooting percentages yet lebron has 2 rings to Kobe's 5

All those rings and yet Kobe has just as many Finals MVP's as Lebron

[Element]

All those rings and yet Kobe has just as many Finals MVP's as Lebron

All those Finals MVPs yet LeBron already lost more Finals than Kobe, despite making less of them :lol

[TheMilkyBarKid]

I see the battle of wits has begun ^

[AirFederer]

I can`t deny that Kobe`s a smooth post operator :pimp:

[HomieWeMajor]

Hakeem is running the biggest scam with these camps since the 419.

[Nash]

all those nice shooting percentages yet lebron has 2 rings to Kobe's 5
besides sidekick rings, what does Kobe have over Lebron?

[Beastmode88]

besides sidekick rings, what does Kobe have over Lebron?

Who did lebron beat to get his rings? A 23 year old kevin durant? A 35 year old tim duncan? Kobe actually beat tim duncan in his prime.

[riseagainst]

Who did lebron beat to get his rings? A 23 year old kevin durant? A 35 year old tim duncan? Kobe actually beat tim duncan in his prime.

ouch.... inb4 someone says Kawhi Leonard > prime Duncan.

:roll:

[Nash]

Who did lebron beat to get his rings? A 23 year old kevin durant? A 35 year old tim duncan? Kobe actually beat tim duncan in his prime.
If we're being correct then Shaq beat Duncan in his prime. Shaq was the Duncan of the Lakers, not Kobe.

Still, you didn't answer the real question. Kobe fans grab hold to anything irrelevant. Looks better on a video in the post? Omgz, Kobe > Lebron. Even though Lebron basically owns Kobe in every statistical and normal way when comparing two individuals, individual accomplishments and numbers.

So, besides sidekick rings, what individual accolades and accomplishments does Kobe have over Lebron?

[c5terror]

besides sidekick rings, what does Kobe have over Lebron?

well to put it in perspective
it's still Kobe>Lebron even if you believe that 3 were a sidekick rings

using your logic means
3 sidekick rings + 2 rings > 2rings right?

[ImKobe]

Another reason why Kobe is the superior player compared to Lebron.

[ArbitraryWater]

Another reason why Kobe is the superior player compared to Lebron.

Okay so lets add up, we have: rings, free throw shooting, and post-game. Is that right?

[ImKobe]

Okay so lets add up, we have: rings, free throw shooting, and post-game. Is that right?

Add leadership, scoring and defense.

[Nash]

Add leadership, scoring and defense.
Leadership is not something you can measure, and even if, Lebron is a great leader. Has lead both teams with mediocre players and good players.

Scoring, Lebron is on pace to scoring more than Kobe and has done so way, way more efficiently than Kobe. Kobe scoring comes on terrible efficiency while Lebron manages to get the same amount of scoring on much better %.

On defense, Kobe takes it. 9 all defensive teams beats 5. But Lebron is very unique in that he can guard 1-4 and has had some epic defensive displays in playoffs.

[sportjames23]

ouch.... inb4 someone says Kawhi Leonard > prime Duncan.

:roll:


Well, Kawhi was > Lebron in the Finals. :lol

[SHAQisGOAT]

Easy question, Kobe is without a doubt.

You can argue for him (I don't really think so though), but saying without a doubt is just laughable...

Larry Bird takes that one:

overall shooting - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjcGLGM3emE
passing skills - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o66NdFDHEQ
post moves - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBnwSeMiVaU
left hand - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5k593G5dCU
floaters - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFeM6VnUK_Y
outlet passes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTI-Cmkp87A
ankle-breakers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgAAUqoD7hA
defense - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H76dsMqo3s
fadeaways - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtpjCnOoO1Y
3pt contest - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwuljzmVdsQ&t=3m34s
rebounding - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqG_PG27OJo

[NBASTATMAN]

watching Hakeem and Kobe is like watching The Prestige, two great craftsmen going at it, replicating and improvising on each other's moves

Bron is like a hapless amateur trying to pull the rabbit out of the hat when he's being taught how to do a card trick


I agree.. But imo a 40yr old Hakeem is still more fluid than Kobe..