Gordon Hayward : If I played @KingJames 1-on-1, I'd crush him

[Djax12]

http://www.gordonhayward20.com/2014/10/14/best-in-the-game/

My name is Gordon Hayward, spelled with a G. And I am the best player in the game today.

Go back and read that sentence again in case you think you misread it. You didn

[Cocaine80s]

did you make this up?

edit:nvm link works now

[Im so nba'd out]

http://www.imgverse.com/uploads/timeline/527b1c65ced262e008000014.gif

[rhowen4]

he prolly is the best pro athlete gamer alive

i respect that he has great skill in two different things like that

also
http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gordon-haywards-wife-robyn-van-vliet-instagram2.jpg

[oarabbus]

How the FAULK does he find the time to play League of Legends... much less enough to be damn good at that game?

I don't know how many people here have played things like DotA, LoL, HoN, etc... these aren't games that you play a few times and can do well. It's not like "my friend picked up Super Smash Bros/Call of Duty and is really good". There is no button mashing. There is no beginners luck. These are games where your average opponent is a 17 year old kid hopped up on 12 cans of mountain dew, or a Korean kid who's been playing for 18 hours straight in an internet cafe. The people who play these games at even a mediocre level devote enough time at least equivalent to a part time job.

It's honestly absurd that Hayward is a pro NBA athlete and also pretty skilled at League of Legends. You shouldn't have the time or talent to be good at two things on such opposite ends of the spectrum. Obviously it would be cooler if Hayward was a great guitarist or something in addition to bball, but the degree of difficulty here is really quite impressive.

[j3lademaster]

How the FAULK does he find the time to play League of Legends... much less enough to be damn good at that game?

I don't know how many people here have played things like DotA, LoL, HoN, etc... these aren't games that you play a few times and can do well. It's not like "my friend picked up Super Smash Bros/Call of Duty and is really good". There is no button mashing. There is no beginners luck. These are games where your average opponent is a 17 year old kid hopped up on 12 cans of mountain dew, or a Korean kid who's been playing for 18 hours straight in an internet cafe. The people who play these games at even a mediocre level devote enough time at least equivalent to a part time job.

It's honestly absurd that Hayward is a pro NBA athlete and also pretty skilled at League of Legends. You shouldn't have the time or talent to be good at two things on such opposite ends of the spectrum. Obviously it would be cooler if Hayward was a great guitarist or something in addition to bball, but the degree of difficulty here is really quite impressive.I am almost certain pro athletes in general would be better gamers if they even devoted 1/20th of the time due to natural dexterity and competitiveness. I mean sure there are exceptions like Javale McGee (just guessing) who wouldn't do well and a plethora of other knuckleheads, but for the most part having the reactions, dexterity, competitiveness to even play in the MLB, NBA, etc >>>>>>>> any "pro gamer".

[KDthunderup]

he prolly is the best pro athlete gamer alive

i respect that he has great skill in two different things like that

also
http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gordon-haywards-wife-robyn-van-vliet-instagram2.jpg
Dude's killing it.

[oarabbus]

I am almost certain pro athletes in general would be better gamers if they even devoted 1/20th of the time due to natural dexterity and competitiveness. I mean sure there are exceptions like Javale McGee (just guessing) who wouldn't do well and a plethora of other knuckleheads, but for the most part having the reactions, dexterity, competitiveness to even play in the MLB, NBA, etc >>>>>>>> any "pro gamer".


Yeah, I dunno about that man. That's just ****ing wrong. Athleticism dexterity doesn't translate over into keyboard and mouse dexterity. Even though imo sports >>> video games (and probably everyone on this board agrees) it takes a VERY different skillset and type of brains to be good at chess vs. basketball vs. Halo vs. race car driving vs. shooting.

If that logic was correct then athletes would be amazing musicians and artists if they spent 1/20th of the time that pianists and sculptors etc spent due to their "natural dexterity". It just doesn't work like that, at all. Plus, MANY athletes talk about playing LOTS of Halo/Call of Duty/NBA2k/Madden during the offseason or even during the season. Certainly 1/20th of what a pro gamer would spend.

All of which ties into how Hayward's League of Legends prowess is pretty ridiculous.

[That_Admiral]

How do we know he's so skilled at LoL? is there videos of him? i wanna see this haha

[SugarHill]

I am almost certain pro athletes in general would be better gamers if they even devoted 1/20th of the time due to natural dexterity and competitiveness. I mean sure there are exceptions like Javale McGee (just guessing) who wouldn't do well and a plethora of other knuckleheads, but for the most part having the reactions, dexterity, competitiveness to even play in the MLB, NBA, etc >>>>>>>> any "pro gamer".
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[retaxis]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.

[DrunkenDave]

How do we know he's so skilled at LoL? is there videos of him? i wanna see this haha

Not sure if you play the game or not, but that is his account:

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26406586#profile

Plat 1 is like top 3% or something.

[MellowYellow]

Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.


GTFO

[Random_Guy]

Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.
you do know that pro gamers in korea are superstar celebrities right? not to mention the cases where militaries have consulted players on battlefield tactics(in fact this was the origin of chess)

[That_Admiral]

Not sure if you play the game or not, but that is his account:

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26406586#profile

Plat 1 is like top 3% or something.
WTH, he has time to get plat and still ball haha. i stopped because of uni, will start up again in december... 3 months of destroying inhibitors haha

[sammichoffate]

Not sure if you play the game or not, but that is his account:

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/26406586#profile

Plat 1 is like top 3% or something.Believe me, Plat 1 is not that good. People aren't good at this game until high Diamond 1 :facepalm

[Random_Guy]

Believe me, Plat 1 is not that good. People aren't good at this game until high Diamond 1 :facepalm
just being curious as ive never played the game, for a guy with average talent, how much time does it take to get plat1(aka gordon hayward) and how much time does it take to be "good" like you said?

[SpanishACB]

Lol at people overrating this achievement

I assume NBA players play a lot of videogames, specially the younger ones, what else is to do between travelling and playing matches? There's lots of hotel room time.

He probably got good in collegue or whatever and now plays a couple of games a week. More than enough for Platinum 1, even higher.

[sammichoffate]

just being curious as ive never played the game, for a guy with average talent, how much time does it take to get plat1(aka gordon hayward) and how much time does it take to be "good" like you said?It all depends on what type of person you are and how much time you have. I've been playing for about 2 years and i'm Plat 5 atm, but I was a piece of shit when I started out. I would say about a year minimum, but it always depends on various factors like free time and mentality. Guys who play professionally spend a few years most likely though.

[That_Admiral]

Believe me, Plat 1 is not that good. People aren't good at this game until high Diamond 1 :facepalm
Yeah i know Diamond is the highest, but I mean, how does someone have so much time to play these games, on average they last 30 minutes haha

Edit: oh shit i didn't see that there was challenger, yeah i guess it makes more sense why you'd say it ain't that great

[sammichoffate]

Yeah i know Diamond is the highest, but I mean, how does someone have so much time to play these games, on average they last 30 minutes haha

Edit: oh shit i didn't see that there was challenger, yeah i guess it makes more sense why you'd say it ain't that greatThe main issue isn't the rankings, but the majority of the community is just so ****ing toxic because they either get arrogant as shit or they're immature 8-year olds trying to "troll". Think Jameer :lol

[eriX]

I am almost certain pro athletes in general would be better gamers if they even devoted 1/20th of the time due to natural dexterity and competitiveness. I mean sure there are exceptions like Javale McGee (just guessing) who wouldn't do well and a plethora of other knuckleheads, but for the most part having the reactions, dexterity, competitiveness to even play in the MLB, NBA, etc >>>>>>>> any "pro gamer".

the reaction and dexterity of pro gamers are 100% better most of anyone in the NBA. The top tier starcraft players' ability to multi task + decision making in a split second and performing under pressure is not something that most pro ballers can achieve.

[Prometheus]

I am almost certain pro athletes in general would be better gamers if they even devoted 1/20th of the time due to natural dexterity and competitiveness. I mean sure there are exceptions like Javale McGee (just guessing) who wouldn't do well and a plethora of other knuckleheads, but for the most part having the reactions, dexterity, competitiveness to even play in the MLB, NBA, etc >>>>>>>> any "pro gamer".

Coming from someone who enjoys watching championship-level StarCraft, and enjoys watching basketball even more, I can honestly tell you that the gap in skill between Lee Young Ho and the average human at what he does is even greater than that of Michael Jordan and basketball. I know that's probably hard to comprehend, let alone believe, but it's true. Pro gamers (depending on the game) can be some of the most impressively-skilled people alive.

[sammichoffate]

Coming from someone who enjoys watching championship-level StarCraft, and enjoys watching basketball even more, I can honestly tell you that the gap in skill between Lee Young Ho and the average human at what he does is even greater than that of Michael Jordan and basketball. I know that's probably hard to comprehend, let alone believe, but it's true. Pro gamers (depending on the game) can be some of the most impressively-skilled people alive.^this

[dannywpt]

DotA 2 is so much better than LoL. It's truly free to play, it's more challenging and rewarding, the community is less bad and skill ceiling higher.

The learning curve is ridiculously tough, though. You can play 1000 hours and still be a complete noob.

[sammichoffate]

DotA 2 is so much better than LoL. It's truly free to play, it's more challenging and rewarding, the community is less bad and skill ceiling higher.

The learning curve is ridiculously tough, though. You can play 1000 hours and still be a complete noob.I've heard mixed experiences from friends and pro players from both games. One friend told me the gameplay was way different but that playing LOL after DOTA would be way easier. I also highly doubt that the community is any worse than LOL is tbh, that's just how it is for most of the online gaming communities.

[Doranku]

Coming from someone who enjoys watching championship-level StarCraft, and enjoys watching basketball even more, I can honestly tell you that the gap in skill between Lee Young Ho and the average human at what he does is even greater than that of Michael Jordan and basketball. I know that's probably hard to comprehend, let alone believe, but it's true. Pro gamers (depending on the game) can be some of the most impressively-skilled people alive.

There's nothing "impressive" about that. What are you even trying to say? Obviously the skill gap is different due to the complexity of a game like StarCraft.

The average human has zero idea how to play StarCraft. Any idiot can pick up a basketball and grasp the basic concepts.

[dannywpt]

It's true that playing LoL after DotA would be easier. LoL is faster and more forgiving. DotA is slower and more strategic, rather than constant fighting. DotA mechanics are harder.

[Sakkreth]

How the FAULK does he find the time to play League of Legends... much less enough to be damn good at that game?

I don't know how many people here have played things like DotA, LoL, HoN, etc... these aren't games that you play a few times and can do well. It's not like "my friend picked up Super Smash Bros/Call of Duty and is really good". There is no button mashing. There is no beginners luck. These are games where your average opponent is a 17 year old kid hopped up on 12 cans of mountain dew, or a Korean kid who's been playing for 18 hours straight in an internet cafe. The people who play these games at even a mediocre level devote enough time at least equivalent to a part time job.

It's honestly absurd that Hayward is a pro NBA athlete and also pretty skilled at League of Legends. You shouldn't have the time or talent to be good at two things on such opposite ends of the spectrum. Obviously it would be cooler if Hayward was a great guitarist or something in addition to bball, but the degree of difficulty here is really quite impressive.

Well yeah, even more shocking is that he's ok at starcraft. Being even ok in starcraft is way harder than being good in something like lol or dota. Starcraft competition is straight up brutal and you are 1v1 there aswell, if you lose it's on you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVEvwNbeK6I

[retaxis]

you do know that pro gamers in korea are superstar celebrities right? not to mention the cases where militaries have consulted players on battlefield tactics(in fact this was the origin of chess)

For every so called 'pro gamer' there is about a million kids sitting on their computers wasting away their lives. At least sports get you some real world lessons and social skills along with exercise..Oh yeah and it doesn't take up 18 hours of your day everyday

[StephHamann]

It's honestly absurd that Hayward is a pro NBA athlete and also pretty skilled at League of Legends. You shouldn't have the time or talent to be good at two things on such opposite ends of the spectrum..

Hey many NBA athlethes father 5 or more children from 5 or more women. SO its no suprise they have no time to learn how to shoot free throws.

[eriX]

Hey many NBA athlethes father 5 or more children from 5 or more women. SO its no suprise they have no time to learn how to shoot free throws.

but gordon hayward is a career 80%+ FT shooter...? :coleman:

think you confused it with the different howard

[305Baller]

mods...

[StephHamann]

but gordon hayward is a career 80%+ FT shooter...? :coleman:

think you confused it with the different howard

I was referring to Howard, glad you noticed. :lol

[SugarHill]

Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.
You're fvcking retarded and no, I'm not a gamer.

[Chizdog]

It's true that playing LoL after DotA would be easier. LoL is faster and more forgiving. DotA is slower and more strategic, rather than constant fighting. DotA mechanics are harder.

Dota 2 is definitely easier and made for noobs what are you smokin? :biggums:
I can't even get out of Bronze in LoL because it's hard. I tried dota 2 and played like 60 games and got 5.2k mmr
bronze in LoL = 5k mmr in dota 2

[Xiao Yao You]

He says he's not playing as much now that he's married.

[Just2McFly]

I really think he should be spending more time in the gym tho.

[Inactive]

I am almost certain pro athletes in general would be better gamers if they even devoted 1/20th of the time due to natural dexterity and competitiveness. I mean sure there are exceptions like Javale McGee (just guessing) who wouldn't do well and a plethora of other knuckleheads, but for the most part having the reactions, dexterity, competitiveness to even play in the MLB, NBA, etc >>>>>>>> any "pro gamer". I'd bet that the average CS pro has a faster reaction time than the average NBA, or NFL player. I'm absolutely certain that they're faster, and more accurate with a mouse than any pro athlete. Most of them probably have better visual acuity as well. If they weren't competitive, they wouldn't spend 8 hours a day practicing for competitions, despite little expectation of financial compensation.

Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.Since when are pro athletes, as a class, well educated, and in possession of skills unrelated to sports? All of the same hard work, routine, and communication skills that are required to succeed in team sports, are also necessary in team games.

[robert de niro]

Dota 2 is definitely easier and made for noobs what are you smokin? :biggums:
I can't even get out of Bronze in LoL because it's hard. I tried dota 2 and played like 60 games and got 5.2k mmr
bronze in LoL = 5k mmr in dota 2
"like 60 games" :oldlol: you need over 150 games to unlock matchmaking

[SwayDizzle]

Coming from someone who enjoys watching championship-level StarCraft, and enjoys watching basketball even more, I can honestly tell you that the gap in skill between Lee Young Ho and the average human at what he does is even greater than that of Michael Jordan and basketball. I know that's probably hard to comprehend, let alone believe, but it's true. Pro gamers (depending on the game) can be some of the most impressively-skilled people alive.
this right here

[brantonli]

I think people underestimate athletes reaction time. Sports Science did an interesting test, with two blinking lights. Don't remember which nba player they got, but the player had to sprint towards the two lights, and one of them would blink and you need to change directions and run towards it, then they compared it to an average person doing the same, the player's reaction time was much faster.

No i how good the reaction time is for top LOl or WOW players, but it's absurd to use a blanket statement that all athletes reaction time is slower than LOl players.

[Xiao Yao You]

I really think he should be spending more time in the gym tho.

Looks like he's spent plenty of time. He's been noticeably bigger the past two seasons. His 3 point shot has looked good thus far.

[dannywpt]

"like 60 games" :oldlol: you need over 150 games to unlock matchmaking

It was a cute story, though. :roll:

What is also worth noticing is that DotA has a much older playerbase. Most people I meet in game are well into their 20s. Guess 99% of teenagers playing MOBA are playing LoL.

[Inactive]

I think people underestimate athletes reaction time. Sports Science did an interesting test, with two blinking lights. Don't remember which nba player they got, but the player had to sprint towards the two lights, and one of them would blink and you need to change directions and run towards it, then they compared it to an average person doing the same, the player's reaction time was much faster.

No i how good the reaction time is for top LOl or WOW players, but it's absurd to use a blanket statement that all athletes reaction time is slower than LOl players.I think you're referring to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElcVDyVFf7c They're comparing Corey Maggette to the host of the show. It doesn't tell us much.

I'm watching the other reaction time segments, and none of them are actually testing visual reaction time.

They test a drag racer, but the lights change at a consistent interval (I think it was 400 ms), so it's a test of timing, not reacting.

They test a hockey goalie, but they use another player, instead of a machine to fire the puck, so he can see the wind up. He displays some impressive reflexes, instinctively moving his hand where it needs to be in order to intercept the puck, but it's still not a test of reaction time.

[Random_Guy]

For every so called 'pro gamer' there is about a million kids sitting on their computers wasting away their lives. At least sports get you some real world lessons and social skills along with exercise..Oh yeah and it doesn't take up 18 hours of your day everyday
i was just referring to the part where you said how skilless and useless the real pro gamers were. it has nothing to do with the millions of other kids.

[SugarHill]

i was just referring to the part where you said how skilless and useless the real pro gamers were. it has nothing to do with the millions of other kids.

I'm pretty sure this is the same clown who pretends to be a psychologist and then got called out on it and ran away. :roll:

[Lebron23]

Lebron would destroy him.

[oarabbus]

For every so called 'pro gamer' there is about a million kids sitting on their computers wasting away their lives. At least sports get you some real world lessons and social skills along with exercise..Oh yeah and it doesn't take up 18 hours of your day everyday

How ****ing dumb are you? That's the ****ing point moron. There are millions of kids wasting away their lives trying to be the best at this game, and don't even come close to being a pro gamer. That's how skilled pro gamers are at what they do.

[Kungfro]

Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/19/5826158/college-athletic-scholarships-for-league-of-legends-players

[Trollsmasher]

FPS pros have insane reactions. Nothing like getting your head blown off milisecond after walking out from behind the wall:lol

[TheReal Kendall]

Man that game looks lame as shit.

I bet Hayward would get destroyed in 2k though

[Real14]

he prolly is the best pro athlete gamer alive

i respect that he has great skill in two different things like that

also
http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gordon-haywards-wife-robyn-van-vliet-instagram2.jpg

Not surprised cuz everybody should know that she phuckin' with him only for the money:coleman:

[Droid101]

DotA 2 is so much better than LoL. It's truly free to play, it's more challenging and rewarding, the community is less bad and skill ceiling higher.

The learning curve is ridiculously tough, though. You can play 1000 hours and still be a complete noob.
This.

[Droid101]

This.
Also, this might be of general interest. Jeremy Lin is actually in the movie "Free to Play" which is an interesting documentary about the first huge DoTA2 tournament in 2011, The International, which had a million dollar prize.

It's a neat movie even if you don't play the game. Goes into competitive/professional gaming and the ins and outs and whatnot.

Movie site: http://www.freetoplaythemovie.com/

Movie on YouTube (free to watch!): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjZYMI1zB9s

First scene with Jeremy Lin: http://youtu.be/UjZYMI1zB9s?t=4m9s

Lin compares Dota to Basketball: http://youtu.be/UjZYMI1zB9s?t=4m58s

[Droid101]

I can't even get out of Bronze in LoL because it's hard. I tried dota 2 and played like 60 games and got 5.2k mmr
bronze in LoL = 5k mmr in dota 2
You're full of shit because you can't even play ranked with only 60 games under your belt. Things have changed. Dota 2 is definitely more strategic, and if you have a team that wants to fight, you'll be fighting constantly.

Playstyles can vary wildly in Dota.

Edit: First part sounded harsh... but anyway, you can't even play in a ranked match until you're level 13 which means like... 100+ games at least. So the competition is much tougher now than whenever you tried it.

[Pushxx]

Like almost everything else in the globalized 2014 world, the cream of the crop is exclusively talented in video games.

The best of the best pro gamers are unique like the best of the best pro athletes. There is too much competition in everything these days.

[Chizdog]

"like 60 games" :oldlol: you need over 150 games to unlock matchmaking

ROFL you only need 40 games when I played.
And now you only need level 13 which is probably 20 - 30 games if you buy battle booosters.

You can even add me to check my MMR


You're full of shit because you can't even play ranked with only 60 games under your belt. Things have changed. Dota 2 is definitely more strategic, and if you have a team that wants to fight, you'll be fighting constantly.

Playstyles can vary wildly in Dota.

Edit: First part sounded harsh... but anyway, you can't even play in a ranked match until you're level 13 which means like... 100+ games at least. So the competition is much tougher now than whenever you tried it.

No. I'm not shitting you I really got 5.2k mmr you can even add me to check.
I played when you only need 40 games to play ranked mode.
And level 13 too is easy to get if you buy battle boosters.

[Sakkreth]

So this turned into dota2 vs lol. so surprising.. Both fanbases needs to grow up.

[redboy]

Lebron would destroy him.
In league of legends? No freaking way lol

[FKAri]

Lets be serious for a second here. So called 'pro gamers' or wannabe pro gamers are the least skilled people in society because they can't even get a real education or real job so they are the bottom 10% of society in terms of skill sets. A pro sports player and their mental fortitude, determination, real life skills, team work/communication/social skills, constant hard work, sticking to a routine and pushing themselves etc would be the top 10% of the bracket. So its not hard for a real professional sportsman to engage in minimum effort to do better then your 12hour a day armchair 'pro gamer'.

This my be true in the US. Which is why US pro gamers can't compete on the world stage. Because somewhere like Korea it's a legit way to make money and the whole attitude towards pro gaming is more professional.

[Collie]

Based Gordon Hayward. :bowdown:

[russwest0]

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[BasedTom]

Alpha as fvck

[sportjames23]

My new favorite white player. Boss as ****. :bowdown: