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NBAplayoffs2001
10-16-2014, 02:20 PM
For me it's easily the Heat in 2006. The series that created the Wade hype.

JT123
10-16-2014, 02:25 PM
For me it's easily the Heat in 2006. The series that created the Wade hype.
Agreed. Butt hurt Wade stans coming in 3 2 1...

mehyaM24
10-16-2014, 02:26 PM
2006 for sure. wade never sniffed another deep playoff run without a top 5 great.

it was so rigged, mark cuban hired an FBI agent to look into the series :roll:

aj1987
10-16-2014, 02:37 PM
2006 for sure. wade never sniffed another deep playoff run without a top 5 great.

it was so rigged, mark cuban hired an FBI agent to look into the series

LeTurds saying the 2006 Finals was rigged, when Wade averaged 16 FT's over 6 games, but prop up LeBron's '09 playoff run (when he averaged 35 PPG) where he averaged 14 FT's a game over 14 games. :oldlol:

NBAplayoffs2001
10-16-2014, 02:40 PM
LeTurds saying the 2006 Finals was rigged, when Wade averaged 16 FT's over 6 games, but prop up LeBron's '09 playoff run (when he averaged 35 PPG) where he averaged 14 FT's a game over 14 games. :oldlol:

Can you read dude? We're talking about the NBA finals.

aj1987
10-16-2014, 02:44 PM
Can you read dude? We're talking about the NBA finals.
So, Wade averaged 16 FT's and the series was rigged. LeBron averaged 14 over 14 games and it's a great playoff run?

Anyways:


Right here:

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? :rolleyes:

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls committed by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls committed by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything.

Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting team, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.

Quick facts:
--Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
--In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
--Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.

http://i.imgur.com/7Efvj5G.jpg

That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:

http://i.imgur.com/qr98Ae1.gif
Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.

http://i.imgur.com/GZdbKdf.jpg

Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.

http://i.imgur.com/CfMyCFs.jpg

Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win. No controversy here

Wade had the best Finals performance in NBA History... Putting the team on his back in the Final 4 games (all wins) and scored over 35 pts per game in each one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-1

^ GREATEST Finals Performance EVER !!

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6013055&postcount=19


The opposing team couldn't stop Wade without fouling, so he exploited that and won his team the game? :oldlol:

They changed the rules to get the scoring back up after the 04 season, handchecking was made illegal. It's why guys like Kobe,Lebron and AI had huge gains in the PPG department in 05-06, they learned how to exploit the new rules that favored the offensive player.

Here's a good post


From his Blog Maverick weblog, Mark Cuban's article 'If It’s Not Broke, Doesn’t Mean It’s Optimal. Even in the NBA';Feb 4th 2009:

"So a few years ago, Im watching the Pistons beat the Lakers in the Finals. I’m seeing Larry Brown’s Pistons fully take advantage of the rules. It was impossible to stay in front of Kobe. He could get anywhere he wanted on the court. The Pistons knew it as well. So every time he tried to get to the basket, they would body up and bump him. The officials did just as they were supposed to. Since Kobe had the advantage on the defender, they didn’t call a foul. However that little bump slowed Kobe down just enough that it gave Ben Wallace a split second more to on a pre rotation to the Paint, to be in a better position to defend the basket. Kobe still scored, but not quite as often as he may have otherwise.

At that point it dawned on me that the concept of playing the advantage in a one on one matchup had nothing to do with which TEAM gained the advantage. After all, its the team that scores the most points that wins. Detroit had a brilliant strategy and was playing it to perfection. After the finals, I sat down with the league and discussed with them the difference between player and team advantage. The discussion lead to changing the rules so that perimeter contact was called far more often."


Cuban got his wish and the already stringent anti-contact rules for perimeter play became even more strict. The unintended backlash ended up blowing up in his face:

"The NBA eliminated all forms of hand-checking before the 2004-2005 season. The rule was intended to give offensive players more freedom, but has given offensive players an unfair advantage. It’s virtually impossible to keep perimeter players out of the paint.

Unfortunately for Cuban and the Mavs, the rule changes he helped initiate contributed to Dallas’ loss to the Miami Heat in the 2006 NBA Finals. Dwyane Wade shot an NBA Finals record 97 free throws. To his credit, Wade attacked the basket relentlessly, but there were times when Maverick defenders beat Wade to a spot on the floor, had their arms to their sides, and were whistled for blocking fouls when Wade initiated contact. It was ridiculous. The Mavericks attempted 48 free throws in Game’s 5 and 6. Wade attempted 46 freebies over the same span

Cuban has done a lot for the NBA. But the hand-checking rule was better left unchanged."

-BallerBlogger.com, article: 'Cuban Helped Eliminate Handchecking'



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8255947&postcount=2

Credit: plowking and ImKobe

Fudge
10-16-2014, 02:45 PM
2012 then 2006

Akhenaten
10-16-2014, 02:50 PM
nobody was saying it was rigged prior to Gm 5 :confusedshrug:

JohnMax
10-16-2014, 03:22 PM
2011 Dirk got favorable calls the entire playoffs

Pushxx
10-16-2014, 03:36 PM
Game 7 of the 2010 Finals was very rigged.

russwest0
10-16-2014, 03:38 PM
2006 Finals.

Real14
10-16-2014, 03:41 PM
3 way tie with 06,12 & 13.

russwest0
10-16-2014, 03:43 PM
3 way tie with 06,12 & 13.

2012 was pretty bad as well, but that year was less about the Finals (which were rigged in their own right) and more about a whole entire playoff RUN being rigged from that teams first series to their last series.

It sucks for Pacers fans I think, because their team was arguably at their best during that postseason with Granger still being near his best form and with Stevenson and George coming into their own with guys like West still playing at a great level. I think the Pacers probably knock the Heat out in round 2 that year with fair officiating, but the Celtics almost certainly beat the Heat if for whatever reason the Pacers don't.

G0ATbe
10-16-2014, 03:45 PM
2012 easily.

Real14
10-16-2014, 03:46 PM
2012 was pretty bad as well, but that year was less about the Finals (which were rigged in their own right) and more about a whole entire playoff RUN being rigged from that teams first series to their last series.

It sucks for Pacers fans I think, because their team was arguably at their best during that postseason with Granger still being near his best form and with Stevenson and George coming into their own with guys like West still playing at a great level. I think the Pacers probably knock the Heat out in round 2 that year with fair officiating, but the Celtics almost certainly beat the Heat if for whatever reason the Pacers don't.
You do have a point. Even that 1st round knicks heat series was rigged as well.

russwest0
10-16-2014, 03:49 PM
You do have a point. Even that 1st round knicks heat series was rigged as well.

Yeah, it was insane seeing guys like Melo, Granger, Pierce, and Durant regularly get in foul trouble vs Miami while in the playoffs that year, Wade and LeBron were 1 and 2 for all players in total free throws attempted and got clear, undeniable favoritism in basically all but one or two out of what, 20 games played? Plus you have the refs handing out technical fouls left and right to opposing teams like the Celtics who got like 5 in one game for questioning insanely questionable calls. Plus you had guys from the knicks, pacers, celtics, all get fined for rigged allegations.

That was one of the most rigged playoff runs ever if not the most, to finally stop all of the backlash and negative attention surrounding the leagues biggest star. As a lone series though I think the 2006 Finals were worse than the 2012 Finals, though both were still rigged.

NBAplayoffs2001
10-16-2014, 04:10 PM
Yeah, it was insane seeing guys like Melo, Granger, Pierce, and Durant regularly get in foul trouble vs Miami while in the playoffs that year, Wade and LeBron were 1 and 2 for all players in total free throws attempted and got clear, undeniable favoritism in basically all but one or two out of what, 20 games played? Plus you have the refs handing out technical fouls left and right to opposing teams like the Celtics who got like 5 in one game for questioning insanely questionable calls. Plus you had guys from the knicks, pacers, celtics, all get fined for rigged allegations.

That was one of the most rigged playoff runs ever if not the most, to finally stop all of the backlash and negative attention surrounding the leagues biggest star. As a lone series though I think the 2006 Finals were worse than the 2012 Finals, though both were still rigged.

Agreed that first round matchup as a Knicks fan was annoying to watch. There were so many flops smh and the foul calling jeez. And Shumpert going out with an injury and he has never been the same since. Then again we had like a 40 year old Baron Davis as a pg. We wouldn't have won either way lets be real :lebroncry:

russwest0
10-16-2014, 04:13 PM
Agreed that first round matchup as a Knicks fan was annoying to watch. There were so many flops smh and the foul calling jeez. And Shumpert going out with an injury and he has never been the same since. Then again we had like a 40 year old Baron Davis as a pg. We wouldn't have won either way lets be real :lebroncry:

No, the Knicks most likely wouldn't have won but it would have been a much more competitive series and who knows what affects that would have on Miami fatigue wise. Regardless fatigue wouldn't have mattered because it was pretty clearly the league's mission to have the Heat win it all that year.

dazzer87
10-16-2014, 04:22 PM
Game 7 of the 2010

NZStreetBaller
10-16-2014, 04:40 PM
I miss tim donaghy. He was a shady character of the court but I recon he was a pretty legit ref... just my opnion.

Hey Yo
10-16-2014, 04:53 PM
Definitely game 7, 2010

JT123
10-16-2014, 05:03 PM
It sucks for Pacers fans I think, because their team was arguably at their best during that postseason with Granger still being near his best form and with Stevenson and George coming into their own with guys like West still playing at a great level. I think the Pacers probably knock the Heat out in round 2 that year with fair officiating, but the Celtics almost certainly beat the Heat if for whatever reason the Pacers don't.
Proof that you didn't watch a single game of that series. Granger played like complete garbage with the exception of maybe one game, and Stephenson wasn't even in their rotation, much less coming into his own. :facepalm
If you are going to troll at least make it based somewhat on facts, not figments of your imagination.

#number6ix#
10-16-2014, 05:03 PM
Anyways:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heat007
Right here:

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws?

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls committed by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls committed by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything.

Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting team, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.

Quick facts:
--Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
--In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
--Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.



That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:


Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.



Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.



Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:

Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win. No controversy here

Wade had the best Finals performance in NBA History... Putting the team on his back in the Final 4 games (all wins) and scored over 35 pts per game in each one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...Reformances-1

^ GREATEST Finals Performance EVER !!

One of the best post of all time... Straight facts

Magic 32
10-16-2014, 06:46 PM
lol 2010 game 7

Why?

Well...............kobe won :rant :rant :rant

:roll: :roll: :roll:

JT123
10-16-2014, 06:51 PM
lol 2010 game 7

Why?

Well...............kobe won :rant :rant :rant

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Or the fact that the Lakers shot 24 free throws in the 4th quarter. :facepalm
Most free throws attempted by any team in any quarter throughout the entirety of the 2010 playoffs!
Yeah, that's not suspicious at all.

tpols
10-16-2014, 07:04 PM
Yeah, it was insane seeing guys like Melo, Granger, Pierce, and Durant regularly get in foul trouble vs Miami while in the playoffs that year, Wade and LeBron were 1 and 2 for all players in total free throws attempted and got clear, undeniable favoritism in basically all but one or two out of what, 20 games played? Plus you have the refs handing out technical fouls left and right to opposing teams like the Celtics who got like 5 in one game for questioning insanely questionable calls. Plus you had guys from the knicks, pacers, celtics, all get fined for rigged allegations.

That was one of the most rigged playoff runs ever if not the most, to finally stop all of the backlash and negative attention surrounding the leagues biggest star. As a lone series though I think the 2006 Finals were worse than the 2012 Finals, though both were still rigged.

It wasnt just 2012.. did you watch the nets series last year? In game 5 when joe johnson was raining buckets on the heat in the 4th.. In the last minute oif that game with JJ guarding lebron, JJ got called for a ticky tack blocking foul on a lebron drive(all he did was slide in front, take a lebron shoulder to the chest and move back a bit)

Then on one of the very NEXT plays JJ gets body checked by Lebron as he tries to drive, and his wrist/forearm grabbed by ray allen leading to a turnover and the end of the series. The favoritism was such bullshit and hypocritical.. no consistency.

Its like if you try to stay in front of lebron and take a shoulder from him, its a foul on YOU for him initiating contact.. but when he plays defense, hes allowed to fully body you with no call.. its like wtf am I watching?

ArbitraryWater
10-16-2014, 07:12 PM
Definitely 2006 and 2010

KirbyPls
10-16-2014, 07:28 PM
It wasnt just 2012.. did you watch the nets series last year? In game 5 when joe johnson was raining buckets on the heat in the 4th.. In the last minute oif that game with JJ guarding lebron, JJ got called for a ticky tack blocking foul on a lebron drive(all he did was slide in front, take a lebron shoulder to the chest and move back a bit)

Then on one of the very NEXT plays JJ gets body checked by Lebron as he tries to drive, and his wrist/forearm grabbed by ray allen leading to a turnover and the end of the series. The favoritism was such bullshit and hypocritical.. no consistency.

Its like if you try to stay in front of lebron and take a shoulder from him, its a foul on YOU for him initiating contact.. but when he plays defense, hes allowed to fully body you with no call.. its like wtf am I watching?

Lakers fans complaining about sketchy refereeing :oldlol:

Beastmode88
10-16-2014, 07:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvMG7mZGo04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNTmEYSMvY

KirbyPls
10-16-2014, 07:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvMG7mZGo04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNTmEYSMvY

Russwest0 has a youtube channel?

Cold soul
10-16-2014, 07:52 PM
2006, hands down.