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KobesFinger
10-17-2014, 05:07 PM
:facepalm :facepalm bruh (https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/523211444104351746). Did this guy not watch the last four NBA Finals? Mavs went ham from behind the line, as did the Heat and then the Spurs.

For our next hire can we have someone who stays up to date please?

Random_Guy
10-17-2014, 05:10 PM
probably saw the clip of bynum shooting

chazzy
10-17-2014, 05:14 PM
From one extreme in D'antoni, to another with Byronnasaurus Rex and his old school mentality

bagelred
10-17-2014, 05:14 PM
Byron Scott "3 pointers don't win championships, and you don't win friends with salad."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq_OhlQ0ZkA

SpecialQue
10-17-2014, 05:56 PM
This retard's trippin'.

Sportal
10-17-2014, 06:00 PM
Byron Scott as a coach, don't win Championships.

T_L_P
10-17-2014, 06:04 PM
What he means is, the lack of 3s will lead to a horrible record and thus a draft pick and thus a future champion.

Byron stays fooling you clowns.

navy
10-17-2014, 06:07 PM
They do....

imnew09
10-17-2014, 06:10 PM
Smfh . I wanted jeff gundy or mark jackson. Scott sucks!!!

Jesus Ray & D Fish 3 won championship..

SugarHill
10-17-2014, 06:13 PM
This retard's trippin'.
:oldlol:

Uncle Drew
10-17-2014, 06:14 PM
Byron being Byron. Don't count on your team playing any defense either.

JohnMax
10-17-2014, 06:19 PM
3 pointer saved lebron's career

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Ray-Allen-Hits-Three-to-Force-OT-Game-6-NBA-Finals.gif

Cocaine80s
10-17-2014, 06:24 PM
This hipster ass coach tryna do everything different from the rest of the league :oldlol:

dreamwarrior
10-17-2014, 08:31 PM
I think he should rethink this idea. Even if you're able to get to the line more when not shooting 3's, your opponent only has to shoot their 3's 30% or better to win. If you plan on not taking 3's you have to up your own pace in order to score more or hope that your opponent shoots worse 2p's, so your defense has to be better than theirs. All things equal if they shoot 40% 3's you'll be down 7-8pts despite playing equally.

They don't need a ton of 3p threats. Lin and Johnson are enough

G0ATbe
10-17-2014, 08:33 PM
Don't bring up 2012. Refs won that championship.

3peated
10-17-2014, 08:35 PM
Smfh . I wanted jeff gundy or mark jackson. Scott sucks!!!

Jesus Ray & D Fish 3 won championship..


Retard.


He isn't saying being able to shoot 3's doesn't win championships. The heat, spurs, and mavs were NOT built around 3s. l2basketball.


a clutch 3 can win anygame, but everyone always say "you live and die by the 3" no one is gonna be on point every night with 3s, having an inside game is more reliable and efficient if you do it properly.

rmt
10-17-2014, 08:36 PM
Byron's stuck in the 80s. Guess his players aren't gonna defend the 3 point line. Good luck with that defense.

rmt
10-17-2014, 08:44 PM
In today's game, in order to contend, you must have good 3 point shooters or at the least the threat of the 3pter. There are few dominant big men and "inside shooting" requires 3pt shooters to space the floor or the opponent will pack the paint (see MEM of recent years).

Byron needs to move with the times/rules.

SpecialQue
10-17-2014, 08:45 PM
Byron's stuck in the 80s. Guess his players aren't gonna defend the 3 point line. Good luck with that defense.

http://warriorsworld.bayareaballllc1.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Stephen-Curry-Klay-Thompson.jpg

SHAQisGOAT
10-17-2014, 10:51 PM
Y'all trippin too much with that whole era talk... Byron shot 2 3's per game for his career in 28 MPG, on 37%, and don't forget he became a pro in the 80s; at some point he was at 3 3PA's per game, in less than 34 min, making 42% of them.
Let's not act like he doesn't know (or at least should, and did) the importance of three-pointers, let's not act like he wasn't shooting them, let's not act like the teams he played for didn't utilize it at some point or another, if "only" to space the floor.
Plus, already in the 80s, 4 of the 10 champions were top7 in 3pt%, 2 of them were #1 (including a team which Byron was in).
And, EVEN nowadays, championship-teams are not "built around 3's".

Anyways, with that said, I could've somewhat understand where he comes from if he had the right players for that "job"... An elite offensive center, some great defenders, team that could move the ball around really well, various mid-range threats, players to play/finish inside, paint protection, rebounders... Say, if he had Kareem/Green/Worthy/Scott/Magic :lol
Now, I can't see where he's aiming at because he just doesn't have the personnel to run the kind of offense he wants... Who's gonna drive and finish in the paint? Only old/post-injury Kobe or something? Who's gonna be a post-up threat? Only got Kobe for that. Who's gonna hit mid-range jumpers consistently? I can only see Kobe doing it, Nash is too old, Boozer will shoot plenty of bricks as well, got nobody else.
Oh, then if you wanna aply those strategies while shooting a small amount of 3's, you gotta be a great defensive team, you gotta have some great defensive players to go around... That's not the case, AT ALL.
...
Then again, when you think about it, he doesn't have much to work with or any close to that, so...
He can be aiming to do a great job at tanking, as well, though :oldlol: With that team it ain't gonna be hard...

wakencdukest
10-17-2014, 10:53 PM
Neither do undersized frontcourts who can't shoot worth a damn.

coin24
10-17-2014, 10:55 PM
The team is complete shit anyway, doesn't really matter what system he wants to run:oldlol:
It really is just Kobe and a bunch of scrubs.

Taller than CP3
10-17-2014, 10:58 PM
He's just mad his parents named him Byron.

sammichoffate
10-18-2014, 12:16 AM
The most consistent three point shooter on the Lakers is Wayne ****ing Ellington for ****'s sake. Byron is ethering all of you :lol

I<3NBA
10-18-2014, 12:21 AM
it does't matter what he does or says anyway. championships for the Lakers are decades away. maybe even a lifetime away.

Cold soul
10-18-2014, 12:52 AM
From one extreme in D'antoni, to another with Byronnasaurus Rex and his old school mentality

Lose/lose situation.

PsychoBe
10-18-2014, 12:56 AM
because the heat and spurs were purely known for their 3-point shooting :facepalm

oarabbus
10-18-2014, 01:04 AM
Retard.


He isn't saying being able to shoot 3's doesn't win championships. The heat, spurs, and mavs were NOT built around 3s. l2basketball.


a clutch 3 can win anygame, but everyone always say "you live and die by the 3" no one is gonna be on point every night with 3s, having an inside game is more reliable and efficient if you do it properly.
The Spurs were 2nd in the league last year in 3pt%. It was a huge part of their gameplan :biggums:

HOoopCityJones
10-18-2014, 01:14 AM
Who gives a shit, Byron just knows what every legit Basketball fan should by now. The Lakers don't have a single pure shooter on the squad. Asking a starting line-up of Kobe , Boozer , Wes Johnson, Old Nash and J.Hill to shoot a high volume of 3ptrs would be suicide.

Our best shooter is Ellington and he's a super scrub.

fpliii
10-18-2014, 01:51 AM
This year is going to be brutal. :facepalm

I'm hoping Kobe goes full gunner this season.

navy
10-18-2014, 02:39 AM
because the heat and spurs were purely known for their 3-point shooting :facepalm

They had the threat of lighting it up from 3 every game.

The Lakers dont have the offense to win without three pointers. No inside scoring or midrange game outside of kobe. Chucking threes can turn a mediocre team into a good one. See knicks 2013.

Popovich said he hates the three, but that doesnt mean he doesnt want his team not taking a lot, the three ball is efficient.

You cant soley rely on it, but the 3 definitely can win you a championship.

NZStreetBaller
10-18-2014, 03:19 AM
you dont win championships with steve nash (proven fact)

SamuraiSWISH
10-18-2014, 03:26 AM
All these dumb asses in here, Scott is right. You live by the three, you die by it. It's fool's gold. Championship basketball is played from the inside - out. High percentage shots, and the ability to convert from mid range wins rings. Of course the threat of open 3 pointers is important, but being the main weapon for a team means they won win anything.

chazzy
10-18-2014, 03:36 AM
All these dumb asses in here, Scott is right. You live by the three, you die by it. It's fool's gold. Championship basketball is played from the inside - out. High percentage shots, and the ability to convert from mid range wins rings. Of course the threat of open 3 pointers is important, but being the main weapon for a team means they won win anything.
Tell that to the past two champs who each took 20+ threes a game. To completely disregard it at the level he has been is simply archaic.

MiseryCityTexas
10-18-2014, 03:46 AM
2011 Mavs proved him wrong. Apparently Scott is stuck in the 80s where players still jacked up midrange jumpers even though the three point line is right there.

bdreason
10-18-2014, 03:49 AM
All these dumb asses in here, Scott is right. You live by the three, you die by it. It's fool's gold. Championship basketball is played from the inside - out. High percentage shots, and the ability to convert from mid range wins rings. Of course the threat of open 3 pointers is important, but being the main weapon for a team means they won win anything.


Not anymore. The modern defensive rules have changed the game, and coaches are now spreading the court, and playing from the outside - in. Even when teams do play from the post, it's typically the pinch/high post, not the low post. Coaches have figured out that it's simply more effective to play for 3-pointers and FT's, because of the inability of teams to defend the perimeter (no hand-checking), and the ease at which teams can double the post now (zone defense).

Now, don't get me wrong, you're not going to win a championship just shooting 3-pointers. Good playoff teams will force teams into taking mid-range shots, so you'll need players who can do other things besides hit 3's and make layups. The Heat had LeBron and Bosh. The Spurs had Parker and Duncan. The Mavs had Dirk.

Jet
10-18-2014, 03:55 AM
"3 pointers don't win championships"

Neither does Byron Scott

SamuraiSWISH
10-18-2014, 04:12 AM
Tell that to the past two champs who each took 20+ threes a game. To completely disregard it at the level he has been is simply archaic.
2 seasons? 2 whopping seasons?

And you really think those teams won because they hoisted three pointers? Exclusively? Come on ... you have more of a brain than that.

The Spurs won because of Tim Duncan, and Parker's penetration opening up those undefended three pointers with great ball movement.

Miami had LeBron, and sometimes Wade attacking the rim to open up their shooters.

Long ball shouldn't be disregarded, you need it to stretch the floor. It needs to be defended on some level, and serve as a threat.

To rely on it, or act as if shooting the 3 ball in mass quantities and think it's going to win you a championship because you shoot it a lot is utter nonsense. And anyone thinking otherwise doesn't know basketball.

chazzy
10-18-2014, 04:18 AM
2 seasons? 2 whopping seasons?

2014 Spurs - 21.4 3PA per game
2013 Heat - 22.1 3PA per game
2012 Heat - 15.6 3PA per game
2011 Mavs - 21.6 3PA per game
2010 Lakers - 19 3PA per game
2009 Lakers - 18.5 3PA per game
2008 Celtics - 19.1 3PA per game
2007 Spurs - 19 3PA per game
2006 Heat - 17.6 3PA per game
2005 Spurs - 17 3PA per game


And you really think those teams won because they hoisted three pointers? Exclusively? Come on ... you have more of a brain than that.
Where did you get that impression? I explicitly said that to completely DISREGARD it at the level Byron has thus far is archaic

ImKobe
10-18-2014, 05:45 AM
He isn't saying that 3-pointers don't matter. It's just that 3-point shooting alone does not win you anything in this league, the Lakers depended on the 3-pt shot last season and look where it got them. 3s are good if they're wide open and in rhythm, you can't play the game by intentionally chucking up those shots if you're not the Golden State Warriors or the Spurs. Only teams with elite long-range shooting can play that way, which is what I think Scott was trying to say. The Lakers are not a heavy 3-pt shooting team.

NZStreetBaller
10-18-2014, 09:00 AM
This is the worst looking laker team in a long time.... bunch of scrubs. The only glimmers of hope is kobe beating father time. Julius randle taking off or swaggy p stepping up so that he dusnt feel inferior to iggy....

ArbitraryWater
10-18-2014, 10:32 AM
Y'all trippin too much

lol

sbw19
10-18-2014, 10:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUEnbPsVfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdLRKWYroag

@#!@ it. Know what? Just sign Baron Davis and Walker and let it rain 4s. $@# isn't looking good anyway.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
10-18-2014, 11:02 AM
2014 Spurs - 21.4 3PA per game
2013 Heat - 22.1 3PA per game
2012 Heat - 15.6 3PA per game
2011 Mavs - 21.6 3PA per game
2010 Lakers - 19 3PA per game
2009 Lakers - 18.5 3PA per game
2008 Celtics - 19.1 3PA per game
2007 Spurs - 19 3PA per game
2006 Heat - 17.6 3PA per game
2005 Spurs - 17 3PA per game


Where did you get that impression? I explicitly said that [b]to completely DISREGARD it at the level Byron has thus far is archaic

Damn. Chazzy laying down that ether. I agree w/ the bold 100%.

kentatm
10-18-2014, 11:19 AM
To be fair, while the 2011 Mavs had several excellent 3 point shooters the offense was still built around Dirk's mid range/high post game. He just happens to open up a shit ton of room for others to get shots off. That's why Monta was able to get to the rim so much last year.

Now that said, Scott is insane to think the 3 isn't an incredibly important weapon in an offense needed to win a title. If the Lakers refuse to shoot them the way it seems he wants them to opposing defenses will have a hell of a lot easier time defending them. You need the threat of the 3 to open up everything else in an offense.

wakencdukest
10-18-2014, 11:34 AM
This is stupid. Championships should not even be discussed right now. If the Lakers had some kind of inside game, rebounding advantage, or a great defense, then maybe the comment would be valid. This team doesn't excel at anything at the moment. He should have said scrubs don't win championships.

tamaraw08
10-18-2014, 04:04 PM
He is probably still stuck on how good was his Nets team...12 yrs ago?
Rules have changed. That team was good but not that good, was very lucky there not power houses in the East.
Lakers looked really bad on offense right now, taking too many low % shots, from bet 15-19 feet. Kobe and Boozer take a bunch.
Actually if a 3pt shooter just average 37% from the 3pt line, it generates 111pts in 100 shots (35% nets 105 pts) far better than hitting 50% from the 2pt area.
But then again, Lakers don't have good shooters esp after losing Meeks and Blake.
One other problem is that Randle is not turning out to be the Zach Randolph type who will bang inside to get great position. Yes, he has shown he can dribble from outside but so far can't finish like Lamar Odom.
Injury to Lin who can penetrate and create is a problem, Clarkson can generate via runners but he is also injured.