Karl Malone got a 12 year old pregnant, no one cares?

[CavaliersFTW]

Absorb this information.. Malone was a 20-year old college sophomore when Gloria Bell, at age 13, gave birth to Demetress, a biological son he never raised. I don't even care that he never bothered to raise the kid tho.. I'm more confused as to how no legal repercussions ever came about for him getting a 12 year old pregnant?

:biggums:

[kurple]

he's a hillbillie

they do a lot of shit i dont understand and/or like

[sportjames23]

Kobe rapes white girls, MJ bets for white girls' virginity, Lebron quits on teams.

Meh, we accept these little quirks from our heroes.

Just kidding, yo.

[SugarHill]

Authorities were shook of the elbow to the head. People act like it never happened and for good reason.

[FKAri]

Nice :applause:

[kurple]

girl should thank him. didnt that kid end up playing in the NFL?

$$$

[CavaliersFTW]

...a 12 year old tho

..and no legal repercussion whatsoever? No one even seems to raise a brow?

[T_L_P]

Her family didn't want to see him put in prison apparently. They also wanted child support which wouldn't be possible from behind bars.

Malone seems like the biggest asshole in the world though.

[Rake2204]

It's interesting how some things become big deals within the media while others are passed along and forgotten. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Chauncey Billups rape accusation in 2000 someone here brought up a few weeks ago: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=354723

[Trollsmasher]

Did she deliver him early?

[HurricaneKid]

I've made this thread a few times. LeBron dances before a preseason game. People pile on. Malone bangs a middle schooler and no one cares.

Whatcha gonna do?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I heard he met the girl at a college/frat party and thought she was of legal age. Could be wrong though.

****ed up situation regardless.

[Inactive]

He's a scumbag who should've gone to prison. I agree that it's weird how the media will tear some guys apart for relatively minor things, but lay off a guy like Malone.

[HurricaneKid]

I heard he met the girl at a college/frat party and thought she was of legal age. Could be wrong though.

****ed up situation regardless.

No. She lived on his parent's block. When he came home for the summer they got together.

[nathanjizzle]

family didnt want to pursue criminal charges because that would have sent him to jail instead of the big leagues and they wouldnt get the settlement they wanted. Also the son ended up getting malones beastly genetics and playing pro football. all is good what is their to complain about.

[T_L_P]

all is good what is their to complain about.


The kid being able to wish him mom a happy 16th birthday? :biggums:

[Jameerthefear]

Her parents didn't have an issue with it and she still doesn't. What's the problem here?

[tomtucker]

...a 12 year old tho

..and no legal repercussion whatsoever? No one even seems to raise a brow?

it was before the internet.....you could get away with everything back then

[nathanjizzle]

The kid being able to wish him mom a happy 16th birthday? :biggums:

did she get raped ? if no one was violated then whats the issue? they didnt press charges and they settled out of court.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It wasn't well-known at the time outside of Louisiana and celebrities were more likely to be protected from persecution back then. Especially from a small town where everyone knew everyone. Don't take that as me justifying anything before anyone jumps on me, just pointing out how the world was. People don't get excited about it now because it was a long time ago and most people don't know about it anyway. The girl's family settled for paternity out of court and chose not to have him prosecuted criminally so that's that.

If something similar happened today the guilty party would be ruined.

[CavaliersFTW]

Off the top of my head, within the past few years:

*An NBA owner lost his franchise for saying something racist

*An NFL player lost his career for hitting his wife

*A top 100 HS basketball recruit sentenced to 3 years prison for hitting his girlfriend

Can you imagine the story/consequences if a player in the NBA or NFL, or a top recruit got a 12 year old pregnant? Is this really just the difference of the times now vs the 1980's? Have things really changed that much?

**EDIT** ^^ RMWG just answered that. I guess times have just changed.

[Real Men Wear Green]

did she get raped ? if no one was violated then whats the issue? they didnt press charges and they settled out of court.
13 is statutory rape, as the girl is below the age of consent. If her family was meaner they could have destroyed Malone financially as well as had him locked up.

[CavaliersFTW]

Her parents didn't have an issue with it and she still doesn't. What's the problem here?
Jameer, for your own good, don't attempt to justify this. Obey the law. :cheers:

[Heavincent]

Malone is human trash

[nathanjizzle]

13 is statutory rape, as the girl is below the age of consent. If her family was meaner they could have destroyed Malone financially as well as had him locked up.

they could have but what exactly would they get from malone? he was still a broke college student. plus it was consent and the government doesnt dictate moral and ethics.

[LoneyROY7]

they could have but what exactly would they get from malone? he was still a broke college student. plus it was consent and the government doesnt dictate moral and ethics.

:facepalm

It's statutory rape. IT. IS. ILLEGAL.

[HurricaneKid]

all is good what is their to complain about.

I hope you have a daughter some day

[Jameerthefear]

they could have but what exactly would they get from malone? he was still a broke college student. plus it was consent and the government doesnt dictate moral and ethics.
Good thing to consider.

[nathanjizzle]

:facepalm

It's statutory rape. IT. IS. ILLEGAL.

a girl that is physcially mature enough to have a baby isnt matured enough to be having sex? god must be wrong.

[HurricaneKid]

What's the problem here?

Ask your pillow's father

[LoneyROY7]

a girl that is physcially mature enough to have a baby isnt matured enough to be having sex? god must be wrong.

Nothing to do with my post. It is still illegal. He got off easy.

[CavaliersFTW]

Ask your pillow's father
:oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

they could have but what exactly would they get from malone? he was still a broke college student.The settlement was reached in 1986. Malone was in the NBA in 1986.
plus it was consent and the government doesnt dictate moral and ethics.Frankly, you sound like a potential pedophile trying to justify the act. Whether you are or not, I can't be sure, but that's how you sound. Addressing your actual "point," we do have government-established laws regarding how old is old enough for a person to legally give consent to having sex. Some states are 18, some are 17, lowest is 16. This is just reality. Here's a link on that for the curious. (http://www.ageofconsent.us/)

I'm not going to bother getting into long a moral debate with a potential pedophile so all I'll say about the moral aspect is that some people are going to be mentally prepared at a younger age than others, it's not a uniform thing where all of a sudden the age of 18 grants you wisdom, but there should be some general law to protect the young from people like, well, you. If you can't maintain a relationship with a person old enough to vote you should probably think about what that says about you. I wouldn't want to be taking dates to Chuck E Cheese anyway.

Ignoring this law is a bad idea.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I hope you have a daughter some day
You want this guy to procreate? I don't.

[Ariza4three]

Wasn't she at a college party?

[knickscity]

:facepalm

It's statutory rape. IT. IS. ILLEGAL.
The girl obviously didnt care. neither did the parents. Nor did the state which could have iniated the charges as well.

Speaking of, California is notorious for doing this even against protests of the parents and the girl involved.

I'm not condoning by btw, but I do think the situation worked out well for all, and thats what matters most imo.

[HomieWeMajor]

Lotta schit went on back in the day.
I bet y'all ain't heard about Spencer Haywood killing that fan after some game.

[Lebowski]

Absorb this information.. Malone was a 20-year old college sophomore when Gloria Bell, at age 13, gave birth to Demetress, a biological son he never raised. I don't even care that he never bothered to raise the kid tho.. I'm more confused as to how no legal repercussions ever came about for him getting a 12 year old pregnant?

:biggums:

I don't like Malone. And he should have gone to jail. Having said that, how about her parents... Instead of going "WTF have you done with our daughter?" their eyes sees $$$ and go "Hell yeahs we gonna get paid if he goes pro!". Ah, the land of opportunity...

[Real Men Wear Green]

The girl obviously didnt care. neither did the parents. Nor did the state which could have iniated the charges as well.
You can't know that they "didn't care." The quote I got off Bell's wiki page: [QUOTE=Demetress Bell Wiki]Karl Malone has never offered public confirmation that he is the father of Demetress Bell. However, laboratory blood tests prepared for the Bell family's 1986 paternity lawsuit against Malone reportedly pointed to an over 99 percent probability that Bell's father was either Malone or a brother of Malone. Malone initially refused to respond to the lawsuit, but eventually reached an out-of-court settlement with the Bell family over the issue. The Bells received a single lump sum payment of a confidential amount, with no on-going child support for Demetress. In speaking later about the settlement, Malone's attorney asserted that it had not included an official court determination of paternity, and noted that Malone "had a lot of brothers".[2]

Although Malone was 20 years old at the time that the 13-year old Gloria Bell was impregnated, she said that her family chose not to pursue criminal charges against Malone over the relationship. According to Bell, with Malone being a neighbor

[knickscity]

You can't know that they "didn't care." The quote I got off Bell's wiki page: The source for that is a 1998 article in the Salt Lake Tribune. And it sounds to me like they took a practical approach to dealing with a situation that could have been pretty nasty. That doesn't mean they didn't care, they just figured it would be better for everyone to let him be free, make money and send them what they would need to raise Bell.
When I say dont care, i meant didnt care he committed a crime.

they clearly looked at how this could do everyone well in the long run, especially the child and mother, which the rest of my post alludes to.

Even the state didnt do anything, to which they could have.

[Kblaze8855]

Me years ago:




He has at least 3 kids none of them he would accept right away. The first 2 he violated a court order for a DNA test on and only after that did he acknowledge they were his. He didnt accept them into his life till years later

His other kid is now in the NFL....and he didnt meet him till he was 18. He knew about him too. He met the kid and according to him one of the first things he told him was "Its too late to be your father" and told him he wouldnt be giving him any money. Thats whats onhis mind after not seeing his child for 18 years.

He helped push Magic out of the NBA when his comeback was going great. magic actually played the 93 preseason. Karl and others helped force him out

He was voted the dirtiest player in the NBA by both players and fans(last vote he got 32% of the vote....only one other player had as many as half his votes). Dude just breaks the face of a guy 100 pounds and 8 inches smaller than him over percieved disrespect of Stockton when Isiah gave him like 40 over him getting picked for the dream team and not Isiah. Nique flat out called him a cheap shot artist out to hurt people smaller than him.

And on top of it...the mother of the 3rd kid he went deadbeat on....was 11 or 12 when they were together. When he was 20 or 21.

And that isnt bad enough...

He lost in the playoffs 19 years in a row, choked under pressure at the Ft line and in active play, and somehow...

Got called classy the whole way.

Karl Malone is an example of so much wrong with the sports world. A dirty player, deadbeat dad, child molester who only gets praise due to sports...and he failed to win at that. 19 times.

Too many athletes are assholes and dont get called on it due to their greatness. Karl set a new standards(at least for things we know).

I wont watch him praised without saying what I think is beyond all argument...


Hes a chold molesting, deadbeat, bully, choker.

And if you need to praise him in spite of it over getting 14 thousand layups from John Stockton so be it.

But he did enough shit that it justifies mentioning every time he comes up.





And people acted like I was out of line.....


Karl Malone having a positive reputation and being called a class act really is a joke.

But don't mention it....we cant disrespect a college junior who dated a 12 year old(It wasn't a one time thing....they were involved).

[Real Men Wear Green]

I don't like Malone. And he should have gone to jail. Having said that, how about her parents... Instead of going "WTF have you done with our daughter?" their eyes sees $$$ and go "Hell yeahs we gonna get paid if he goes pro!". Ah, the land of opportunity...
I really don't fault them. Raising a kid is expensive. Bell was going to be another mouth to feed and clothe and especially if their family was poor that was going to be hard. Maybe if it's a brutal rape they get more vengeful but in this case the only thing keeping me from saying they absolutely made the right decision is that I don't know what they settled for. because the way child support law works combined with the fact they could have him locked up and sue for damages they could have had him for millions.

[ArbitraryWater]

This has been brought up on here... Yeah, Karl is a piece of shit... Didn't raise his kid either.

[CavaliersFTW]

This has been brought up on here... Yeah, Karl is a piece of shit... Didn't raise his kid either.
He would have needed to raise two kids... the 13 year old mother and her/Malone's son.

[Lebowski]

"...and noted that Malone "had a lot of brothers".."

lol.. nice one.


The source for that is a 1998 article in the Salt Lake Tribune. And it sounds to me like they took a practical approach to dealing with a situation that could have been pretty nasty. That doesn't mean they didn't care, they just figured it would be better for everyone to let him be free, make money and send them what they would need to raise Bell.

Maybe it was for the best then, and I retract from my previous post. Situations like that with pressure on the parents to not press charges, probably very common in smaller communities, makes me irate.

[HomieWeMajor]

Me years ago:







And people acted like I was out of line.....


Karl Malone having a positive reputation and being called a class act really is a joke.

But don't mention it....we cant disrespect a college junior who dated a 12 year old(It wasn't a one time thing....they were involved).
Oh lawd
That post is straight fire !!!http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/shooting-guns.gif
We need a thread where all the underhand stuff NBA players have done gets exposed

[knickscity]

Nothing is wrong with sports, the issue resides with the fans.

Karl malone certainly did play chippy, the entire jazz team had some dirtiness of play and that came from Sloan in an era where it was allowed, but back then...who didnt?

Most didnt know of his personal things when he was playing, and the few who did watched the games because thats what it's about.

Sadly, now fans are just as concerned of these individuals personal lives as if they relate to whats going on on the court...when it doesnt.

[ArbitraryWater]

Prof has defended Malone for years about impregnating a ****ING TWELVE-YEAR OLD :oldlol: :facepalm

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[Jameerthefear]

RMWG, I'm going to need you to unlock my thread.

[Real Men Wear Green]

RMWG, I'm going to need you to unlock my thread.
Huh? I thought you had me on ignore.

[HomieWeMajor]

How many nines go into twelve ?
Ask Karl Malone.

[nathanjizzle]

The settlement was reached in 1986. Malone was in the NBA in 1986. Frankly, you sound like a potential pedophile trying to justify the act. Whether you are or not, I can't be sure, but that's how you sound. Addressing your actual "point," we do have government-established laws regarding how old is old enough for a person to legally give consent to having sex. Some states are 18, some are 17, lowest is 16. This is just reality. Here's a link on that for the curious. (http://www.ageofconsent.us/)

I'm not going to bother getting into long a moral debate with a potential pedophile so all I'll say about the moral aspect is that some people are going to be mentally prepared at a younger age than others, it's not a uniform thing where all of a sudden the age of 18 grants you wisdom, but there should be some general law to protect the young from people like, well, you. If you can't maintain a relationship with a person old enough to vote you should probably think about what that says about you. I wouldn't want to be taking dates to Chuck E Cheese anyway.

Ignoring this law is a bad idea.

exactly, it was settled when malone was in the NBA. even when you are 20 you are not mentally matured as an adult so what exactly is the major difference? the governments dictation of what is an "adult"? at the end of the day this 12-13 year old girl wanted to **** malone who was 20, both who had compatible and mature genitalia to create a baby and thats what happened and thats what god dictates. she wasnt raped. and even her parents saw it that way and if anything got something out of it.

women are made to be influenced anyway...thats why when you see a bitch you like you persuade her to like you.

[CavaliersFTW]

RMWG, I'm going to need you to unlock my thread.
You mean to tell me your obvious troll thread got locked? :eek:



















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[CavaliersFTW]

How many nines go into twelve ?
Ask Karl Malone.
:oldlol:

[FireDavidKahn]

a girl that is physcially mature enough to have a baby isnt matured enough to be having sex? god must be wrong.
Girls can give birth as early as 5.:facepalm :rolleyes:

[Real Men Wear Green]

exactly, it was settled when malone was in the NBA. even when you are 20 you are not mentally matured as an adult so what exactly is the major difference? the governments dictation of what is an "adult"? at the end of the day this 12-13 year old girl wanted to **** malone who was 20, both who had compatible and mature genitalia to create a baby and thats what happened. she wasnt raped. and even her parents saw it that way and if anything got something out of it.

women are made to be influenced anyway...thats why when you see a bitch you like you persuade her to like you.
To repeat: I have no intention to get into a long debate about consent with a potential pedophile. I said my piece. You don't agree? Oh well...it's not "fine" as you are going to get arrested and are a public menace. Oh well.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

So they did meet at a college frat party, just like I read/heard. Not that what happened isn't horrible, but that's a lot different than saying he "knew" she was 13 and that they'd been "seeing" each other.

[nathanjizzle]

To repeat: I have no intention to get into a long debate about consent with a potential pedophile. I said my piece. You don't agree? Oh well...it's not "fine" as you are going to get arrested and are a public menace. Oh well.

there is no debate. you have no basis besides what the government says is moral.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So they did meet at a college frat party, just like I read/heard. Not that what happened isn't horrible, but that's a lot different than saying he "knew" she was 13 and that they'd been "seeing" each other.
There's a bit of hearsay to all this because it wasn't properly investigated and reported on when it happened. They may have been dating, discovering the truth would take some research though.

[Real Men Wear Green]

there is no debate. you have no basis besides what the government says is moral.
That's right, there's no debate, sleeping with 13 year-olds is illegal.

[nathanjizzle]

That's right, there's no debate, sleeping with 13 year-olds is illegal.

so is parking on in a no parking zone. you will go to hell then.

[Real Men Wear Green]

so is parking on in a no parking zone. you will go to hell then.
I park legally, thanks. Get help.

[knickscity]

That's right, there's no debate, sleeping with 13 year-olds is illegal.
Seems like the parents consented after the fact, so in this case it isnt.

of course the state could have done something as well....they didnt.

No issue.

[Kblaze8855]

Ignoring for a moment the absurd discussion on it not being wrong to sleep with a 6th grader....

Old article on Karl....



He admitted being distressed by recent charges against several Portland Trail Blazers of having sex with underage girls the night before they played the Jazz at the team's two-year-old arena, the Delta Center. To Malone, it reinforced the notion that, despite Magic Johnson's misfortune, N.B.A. players are still engaging in high-risk behavior off the court.
"Nothing's changed, and you'd be surprised who's out there," he said, cryptically.

If Malone comes off as something of an archconservative, that's because he is one. This is not as much conformity to Salt Lake City, which is 92 percent white, as much as who he is, an outdoors-loving, truck-stopping, slam-dunking, all-America 29-year-old.

Malone met his wife, Kay, in a shopping mall here. They have one daughter and are expecting a second child in three weeks. His family, he said, fits right into a city tightly wound by strict moral codes. Treated With Respect

[Myth]

This is why I never understood Kobe getting so mad at Malone. When Malone said he was "hunting little Mexican girls," he obviously meant somebody much younger than Vanessa.

[Kblaze8855]

Seems like the parents consented after the fact, so in this case it isnt.


So....

A guy can allow adults to have sex with his 12 year old daughter...and its legal if shes cool with it?

That what im being told?

There is a difference between something being legal....and someone not pressing charges.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Seems like the parents consented after the fact, so in this case it isnt.

of course the state could have done something as well....they didnt.

No issue.So if someone is raped and doesn't press charges against the rapist the rapist didn't break the law? That makes absolutely no sense. "If you can pay the parents off after the fact you can sleep with as many kids as you want to" is not a part of any law in this country.

[HomieWeMajor]

Seems like the parents consented after the fact, so in this case it isnt.

of course the state could have done something as well....they didnt.

No issue.
Knicks fan gonna Knick

[knickscity]

So....

A guy can allow adults to have sex with his 12 year old daughter...and its legal if shes cool with it?

That what im being told?

There is a difference between something being legal....and someone not pressing charges.

I plain stated it wasnt an issue. being legal or not is irrelevant.

[knickscity]

So if someone is raped and doesn't press charges against the rapist the rapist didn't break the law?

By law nothing happened.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I plain stated it wasnt an issue. being legal or not is irrelevant.
The comment of mine you replied to was, "Sleeping with 13 year-olds is illegal." Now you are saying that whether or not it's legal is irrelevant? I don't like to argue semantics but in this case that's not something to be ignored.

[Real Men Wear Green]

By law nothing happened.
Yeah this is completely wrong. Nothing was persecuted criminally. Is there some legal statement somewhere out there that says if a rapist isn't criminally prosecuted that the rape never happened? Because I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.

[knickscity]

The comment of mine you replied to was, "Sleeping with 13 year-olds is illegal." Now you are saying that whether or not it's legal is irrelevant? I don't like to argue semantics but in this case that's not something to be ignored.
Actually I was responding to someone else. You initated a dialogue with me, not the other way around.

This discussion was your response from my page 3 post about the parties "caring" to which i explained that.

The leagl aspect is determined by the parties affected and the state they reside in.

None pursued that aspect, which would have taken court procedings to decifer.

No crime was committed by law.

[knickscity]

Yeah this is completely wrong. Nothing was persecuted criminally. Is there some legal statement somewhere out there that says if a rapist isn't criminally prosecuted that the rape never happened? Because I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.
How do you know a person is raped unless they report it, and the case is investigated with a final ruling?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Actually I was responding to someone else. You initated a dialogue with me, not the other way around.Read what you replied to. In post #63.


This discussion was your response from my page 3 post about the parties "caring" to which i explained that.

The leagl aspect is determined by the parties affected and the state they reside in.

None pursued that aspect, which would have taken court procedings to decifer.

No crime was committed by law.
So if someone steals a car and is never charged they aren't a thief? You aren't making sense.

[Real Men Wear Green]

How do you know a person is raped unless they report it, and the case is investigated with a final ruling?
Because sex with 13 year-olds is illegal. We don't need an investigation, we have the existence of Demetress Bell.

[MavsSuperFan]

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Wow, prof takes hero worship to the next level.

Justifying sex with a 12 year old girl by a 20 year old man...

Malone is a criminal imo. the only reason he got away with it was because the girls family saw the potential that malone had to make serious money in the NBA. They realized sending him to jail (and destroying his ability to make money and pay child support) would only make their daughter's life harder imo.

[knickscity]

Read what you replied to. In post #63.

NO, my dialogue starts at post #36, please follow along...you responded to me after that.



So if someone steals a car and is never charged they aren't a thief? You aren't making sense.

You tell me. Sounds like you want to make guilty parties without due process.

[knickscity]

Because sex with 13 year-olds is illegal. We don't need an investigation, we have the existence of Demetress Bell.

The parents consented by way of accepting money in exhcange.

Sorry, no crime committed.

[Real Men Wear Green]

NO, my dialogue starts at post #36, please follow along...you responded to me after that.I wrote a reply to nathanjizzle, #60. You replied to that reply in #63. It's all there. Sorry if you're confused.


You tell me. Sounds like you want to make guilty parties without due process.Due process? There was a baby, a paternity test and a settlement out of court. There's nothing to argue. You can really doubt reality in the face of this evidence? Your problem.

[Jameerthefear]

Huh? I thought you had me on ignore.
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I'll ask you one more time.

[knickscity]

I wrote a reply to nathanjizzle, #60. You replied to that reply in #63. It's all there. Sorry if you're confused.

#36....happened much earlier.


Due process? There was a baby, a paternity test and a settlement out of court. There's nothing to argue. You can really doubt reality in the face of this evidence? Your problem.
Actually it sounds like it's your problem as no crime was committed because no one has complained.

Neither the parents nor parties, nor the state.

Sorry but there IS a court of law for such things. The court of opinion means nothing.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I don';t think I've ever been threatened with anime before. This is new.

[Real Men Wear Green]

#36....happened much earlier.I'm rapidly losing interest and apparently in danger of being beat down by a Sailor Moon fan so I'll be brief: If you quote something and reply to it don't be surprised if people think that is what you are replying to.



Actually it sounds like it's your problem as no crime was committed because no one has complained.

Neither the parents nor parties, nor the state.

Sorry but there IS a court of law for such things. The court of opinion means nothing.
I think we're done.

[ProfessorMurder]

Wow, prof takes hero worship to the next level.

Justifying sex with a 12 year old girl by a 20 year old man...

Malone is a criminal imo. the only reason he got away with it was because the girls family saw the potential that malone had to make serious money in the NBA. They realized sending him to jail (and destroying his ability to make money and pay child support) would only make their daughter's life harder imo.

I said it was wrong. I never said f*cking a 12 year old was a good thing.

I can't find the video that talked about it, so I was mistaken about where they met... Big deal.

Just don't act like all the facts are available. The most information you can find is her age and one article saying, 'two month relationship'. I thought they met once at a party and that happened.

[indiefan24]

#36....happened much earlier.


Actually it sounds like it's your problem as no crime was committed because no one has complained.

Neither the parents nor parties, nor the state.

Sorry but there IS a court of law for such things. The court of opinion means nothing.

lol

[Kblaze8855]

No crime was committed by law.

There is no way a functioning adult could believe that.

You really believe crime only exists when charged?

So I can kill 60 people....if im good enough to not be caught....im not a criminal. No crime....

Crime only exists once someone has been charged with it if not...convicted...

Nah...im not buying that anyone is that stupid.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

#36....happened much earlier.


Actually it sounds like it's your problem as no crime was committed because no one has complained.

Neither the parents nor parties, nor the state.

Sorry but there IS a court of law for such things. The court of opinion means nothing.

May God have mercy on your soul.

[sportjames23]

There is no way a functioning adult could believe that.

You really believe crime only exists when charged?

So I can kill 60 people....if im good enough to not be caught....im not a criminal. No crime....

Crime only exists once someone has been charged with it if not...convicted...

Nah...im not buying that anyone is that stupid.


Bruh, you have seen some of the threads that get posted around here, right? :oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

There is no way a functioning adult could believe that.

You really believe crime only exists when charged?

So I can kill 60 people....if im good enough to not be caught....im not a criminal. No crime....

Crime only exists once someone has been charged with it if not...convicted...

Nah...im not buying that anyone is that stupid.

the word "crime" is an extent of the law created by government. it isnt a crime if it hasnt been found committed.

[knickscity]

There is no way a functioning adult could believe that.

You really believe crime only exists when charged?

So I can kill 60 people....if im good enough to not be caught....im not a criminal. No crime....

Crime only exists once someone has been charged with it if not...convicted...

Nah...im not buying that anyone is that stupid.
So you wouldnt have an issue being locked up without a trial, representation or jury? Even if a person just turns themselves in and admits everything they still will go through some form of process.

It isnt stupid, it's due process of the law....innocent until proven guilty by law.

I get it, man runs red light, sure he broke the law. Now what?

[oarabbus]

The parents consented by way of accepting money in exhcange.

Sorry, no crime committed.

So you wouldnt have an issue being locked up without a trial, representation or jury? Even if a person just turns themselves in and admits everything they still will go through some form of process.

It isnt stupid, it's due process of the law....innocent until proven guilty by law.

I get it, man runs red light, sure he broke the law. Now what?


Traffic infraction = statuatory rape against a 13 year old.

It actually scares and depresses me there are people like this.

Don't ever have children you low life piece of ****.

[Kblaze8855]

I dont believe ive ever gone the dictionary route in a post but ill just say...look up the word "crime".

By technicality or common usage...this discussion is a joke.

But putting all that aside...

I come into your house and kill you.

I hide your body...you are never found.

Was there no crime?

What was it exactly? A murder but not a crime?

A killing but not a crime?

[knickscity]

Traffic infraction = statuatory rape against a 13 year old.

It actually scares and depresses me there are people like this.

Don't ever have children you low life piece of ****.
Nah it should scare you that is what happened in this case....they traded justice for some dollars.

Be mad at them....I'm good over here.

[Kblaze8855]

So you wouldnt have an issue being locked up without a trial, representation or jury? Even if a person just turns themselves in and admits everything they still will go through some form of process.

It isnt stupid, it's due process of the law....innocent until proven guilty by law.

I get it, man runs red light, sure he broke the law. Now what?


So....discussion over.

Him getting caught has nothing to do with the past act of breaking the law. Not about him being punished for it. Its about...it happening or not happening.

[oarabbus]

Nah it should scare you that is what happened in this case....they traded justice for some dollars.

Be mad at them....I'm good over here.


So Malone did nothing wrong according to you?

[knickscity]

So....discussion over.

Him getting caught has nothing to do with the past act of breaking the law. Not about him being punished for it. Its about...it happening or not happening.
Happening or not happening is irrelevant without prsecution.

No one cared in this case.

[knickscity]

So Malone did nothing wrong according to you?
Follow the thread...I said in my first post I didnt condone it.

[Jameerthefear]

I need one of you mods to unlock this http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356216

[Kblaze8855]

Happening or not happening is irrelevant without prsecution.

No one cared in this case.


When the issue is...if crime happened...nothing matters but...it happening.

Everything after the act...is the irreelvant part.

[Pointguard]

I think nobody talks about it because he's rarely talked about in the first place. I thought he should have been pursued harder when it happened too.

[knickscity]

When the issue is...if crime happened...nothing matters but...it happening.

Everything after the act...is the irreelvant part.

The only relevant part is that all the parties involved are good moving forward.

[oarabbus]

The only relevant part is that all the parties involved are good moving forward.


13 year olds cant consent

[FireDavidKahn]

So if I were to kill someone, get caught, then get off on a technicality.....I wouldn't have committed a crime and what I did wad legal?:oldlol:

[ILLsmak]

I commented on this before but:

It's bad but not out of this world WTF. 20/12 does happen. I think it happens quite a lot. 20 is still a kid, too.

As said, it's illegal, but I don't think that particular thing makes him human trash. Dudes at age 20 are trying to **** everything. Be real. Not everyone is like HMM this girl wants to **** me... I should say no because... it's bad. Even if it's illegal. No one would have known had she not gotten pregnant. So, really that's the sad part.

-Smak

[Jameerthefear]

I commented on this before but:

It's bad but not out of this world WTF. 20/12 does happen. I think it happens quite a lot. 20 is still a kid, too.

As said, it's illegal, but I don't think that particular thing makes him human trash. Dudes at age 20 are trying to **** everything. Be real. Not everyone is like HMM this girl wants to **** me... I should say no because... it's bad. Even if it's illegal. No one would have known had she not gotten pregnant. So, really that's the sad part.

-Smak
this

[knickscity]

So if I were to kill someone, get caught, then get off on a technicality.....I wouldn't have committed a crime and what I did wad legal?:oldlol:
http://www.wesh.com/image/view/-/17081318/medRes/2/-/maxh/358/maxw/538/-/p9w6jvz/-/Zimmerman-jpg.jpg

[Kblaze8855]

The only relevant part is that all the parties involved are good moving forward.

You dont know what a lot of the words being used here mean.....

[Kblaze8855]

As said, it's illegal, but I don't think that particular thing makes him human trash. Dudes at age 20 are trying to **** everything. Be real. Not everyone is like HMM this girl wants to **** me... I should say no because... it's bad.


So what you are saying is...because a lot of people are scum that makes being scum acceptable?

If you are a grown ass man and a 6th grader wants to have sex...and you do it....you need your ass kicked...at the very least.

This isnt 1540. You dont just....**** a kid.

That shouldnt need to be said...

[Legends66NBA7]

Lotta schit went on back in the day.
I bet y'all ain't heard about Spencer Haywood killing that fan after some game.

Haywood plotted to murder his coach.

[Jameerthefear]

So what you are saying is...because a lot of people are scum that makes being scum acceptable?

If you are a grown ass man and a 6th grader wants to have sex...and you do it....you need your ass kicked...at the very least.

This isnt 1540. You dont just....**** a kid.

That shouldnt need to be said...
:facepalm
u missed his point

[JT123]

I commented on this before but:

It's bad but not out of this world WTF. 20/12 does happen. I think it happens quite a lot. 20 is still a kid, too.

As said, it's illegal, but I don't think that particular thing makes him human trash. Dudes at age 20 are trying to **** everything. Be real. Not everyone is like HMM this girl wants to **** me... I should say no because... it's bad. Even if it's illegal. No one would have known had she not gotten pregnant. So, really that's the sad part.

-Smak
:facepalm So now we allow pedophile sympathizers to post on this board?

[ILLsmak]

So what you are saying is...because a lot of people are scum that makes being scum acceptable?

If you are a grown ass man and a 6th grader wants to have sex...and you do it....you need your ass kicked...at the very least.

This isnt 1540. You dont just....**** a kid.

That shouldnt need to be said...

They're both kids. Lol at 20 being a grown man. It's irresponsible sure. What's Karl Malone's IQ? lol. Do you think Karl Malone is an intelligent person?

I don't think it's scummy. It's more of basic human nature. See girl, **** her. It's not like see girl, check her age... **** her. You know at that age for dudes they are not rational people at all. They want to fight and ****. And that's even the more intelligent people not someone like Mr Malone who is probably dumb as shit. I bet when Karl Malone's dick gets hard he can't do a damn thing to stop it. Does that mean he's scum or a deviant? I dunno.

I see this as two childish people being stupid. Just like when Dwight is ****ing with that 16 year old. Even tho there's no proof he had sex with her... and also that he's much older than 20, he's still immature as hell.

Like I said, I dunno how many people you know, but I def remember kids I knew hanging out with and ****ing girls that young when we were late teenagers or older. Especially when you do drugs. We would be like wow haha... but it happens.

Tell me I'm wrong with this statement: a 12 year old girl had a higher potential for executive decision making than Karl Malone at age 20.

I'm not saying it's right, but let's not make this into some scheme where Karl Malone is sitting around trying to **** a 12 year old. He probably ****ed many people and she was available.

I don't think you understand the amount of hormones these pro athletes have, add that to the fact a lot of them are dumb... I can't see why this is some big surprise.

-Smak

[oarabbus]

I commented on this before but:

It's bad but not out of this world WTF. 20/12 does happen. I think it happens quite a lot. 20 is still a kid, too.

As said, it's illegal, but I don't think that particular thing makes him human trash. Dudes at age 20 are trying to **** everything. Be real. Not everyone is like HMM this girl wants to **** me... I should say no because... it's bad. Even if it's illegal. No one would have known had she not gotten pregnant. So, really that's the sad part.

-Smak


All those 20 year olds should be in jail then.

If you **** a 12 year old, you are sick in the head. Now there are instances of ~16 year olds getting into clubs, or looking like they're 18-20, etc... not 12. If you have sex with a 12 year old you deserve to be in jail.

[Cocaine80s]

i wouldnt complain if a nba player got my 12 yr old sister pregnant.


chidl support swaggin in this bitch

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I commented on this before but:

It's bad but not out of this world WTF. 20/12 does happen. I think it happens quite a lot. 20 is still a kid, too.

As said, it's illegal, but I don't think that particular thing makes him human trash. Dudes at age 20 are trying to **** everything. Be real. Not everyone is like HMM this girl wants to **** me... I should say no because... it's bad. Even if it's illegal. No one would have known had she not gotten pregnant. So, really that's the sad part.

-Smak
:facepalm

[JT123]

They're both kids. Lol at 20 being a grown man. It's irresponsible sure. What's Karl Malone's IQ? lol. Do you think Karl Malone is an intelligent person?

I don't think it's scummy. It's more of basic human nature. See girl, **** her. It's not like see girl, check her age... **** her. You know at that age for dudes they are not rational people at all. They want to fight and ****. And that's even the more intelligent people not someone like Mr Malone who is probably dumb as shit. I bet when Karl Malone's dick gets hard he can't do a damn thing to stop it. Does that mean he's scum or a deviant? I dunno.

I see this as two childish people being stupid. Just like when Dwight is ****ing with that 16 year old. Even tho there's no proof he had sex with her... and also that he's much older than 20, he's still immature as hell.

Like I said, I dunno how many people you know, but I def remember kids I knew hanging out with and ****ing girls that young when we were late teenagers or older. Especially when you do drugs. We would be like wow haha... but it happens.

Tell me I'm wrong with this statement: a 12 year old girl had a higher potential for executive decision making than Karl Malone at age 20.

I'm not saying it's right, but let's not make this into some scheme where Karl Malone is sitting around trying to **** a 12 year old. He probably ****ed many people and she was available.

I don't think you understand the amount of hormones these pro athletes have, add that to the fact a lot of them are dumb... I can't see why this is some big surprise.

-Smak
Somebody please ban this POS

[KNOW1EDGE]

Lol @ anyone who actively defends a child rapist.

I don't care what the circumstances were- i dont care if no charges were ever filed, i dont care what year it was, or how much money the victim and her family were awarded.

The fuh is wrong with you?

[SugarHill]

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Those_667b6d_441802.jpg

smak right now

[Jameerthefear]

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Those_667b6d_441802.jpg

smak right now
Do we know if she consented or not?

[20Four]

this
Let the adults talk you 17 year old virgin ph^ggot, you will NEVER get laid (other than your anime blow up dolls) so don't post on this topic

Stupid fvcking kids these days should stay off the internet

[Jameerthefear]

Let the adults talk you 17 year old virgin ph^ggot, you will NEVER get laid so dont post in this forum
ayy lmao

[ILLsmak]

Lol @ anyone who actively defends a child rapist.

I don't care what the circumstances were- i dont care if no charges were ever filed, i dont care what year it was, or how much money the victim and her family were awarded.

The fuh is wrong with you?

Again:

I'm not defending a child rapist.

I'm just saying this was not the thoughtful action people are making it out to be.

It was Karl Malone ****ing some girl. It's illegal, ok. I don't think he should avoid charges for that, but to act like he is in the same boat as people who prey on children is very ridiculous.

It doesn't mean he's scum of the earth. He's just a dumbass who did something very stupid. If there was a sex crime equivalent of manslaughter, this would be it.

-Smak

[swagga]

So what you are saying is...because a lot of people are scum that makes being scum acceptable?

If you are a grown ass man and a 6th grader wants to have sex...and you do it....you need your ass kicked...at the very least.

This isnt 1540. You dont just....**** a kid.

That shouldnt need to be said...

IMO you are taking it too hard bro. Sure it wasn't ok with the perceived normalities of current civilizaiton but let's take a more thorough look:

- some places in the heart of the civilized world (europe) have 13 or 14 as the age of consent.
-Biologically at 13 they are just 2-3 years away from physical maturity.... for men this regularly happens at 21.
-Just 100 years ago you had 14 year olds marrying 21+ boys on the regular. The girls would be playing with dolls while the men were out working. That's what it was. Shit, in several hick town this is happening right now.
- We have several thousands of years were young girls were laying babies.
- Now you know that girl got hit by alot of dudes if by 13 she was in college parties, let's be sincere tbh. It's very likely she wasn't just starting doing this.
- Dude probably didn't know her real age and was probably under the influence. Not out of the question to "date" for 2 months after this to be sure that he has an understanding with the parents.... think about it.
- Look at lebron at 14 compared to the rest. If you didn't know he was 14 you'd think that dude was 20. Greg oden is maybe an even better example. Now take a 13 year old that grew earlier than the rest of the crop... can you tell if she's 13 or 20? You can't.

So legally it might be illegal in the USA, but biologically it isn't as wrong as it seems with a lot of evidence going in this direction. Sure, it isn't civilized but it isn't so out of this world as you poignantly put it. These things are much more common in the US,much more than you might like to accept.

And it's not like he killed a man, she is now a rich whore (college parties at 13 :lol ) and she is probably very happy with her decision. Her parents lived that life. Karl malone is 100% dumb thick hick and deadbeat dad who payed support only after DNA proof... some other lucky groupies benefitted from this. Some fcked up rich kids grew out of this. Life goes on. This shit has been happening for millenia.

[Kblaze8855]

We aren't gonna have a serious discussion on if it's ok to sleep with a 6th grader.

I'm gonna go on and end this before it gets even uglier.

Gotta have some standards.....

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Again:

I'm not defending a child rapist.

I'm just saying this was not the thoughtful action people are making it out to be.

It was Karl Malone ****ing some girl. It's illegal, ok. I don't think he should avoid charges for that, but to act like he is in the same boat as people who prey on children is very ridiculous.

It doesn't mean he's scum of the earth. He's just a dumbass who did something very stupid. If there was a sex crime equivalent of manslaughter, this would be it.

-Smak

That's exactly what he did though. You're acting as if what he did was more illegal than immoral....which simply isn't the case.

[Asukal]

All these self righteous "matured" people why don't you file a case against him then? :rolleyes:

Fact is, the parties involved settled their differences. C'mon man, Karl is probably dumb as fvck but he's no criminal. :facepalm

What's next? Should we take him out of the all time list because he got a minor pregnant? :confusedshrug:

[Jameerthefear]

Don't lock this. That's a command.