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oarabbus
10-19-2014, 05:07 PM
Lets settle this heard people arguing this both ways

Real14
10-19-2014, 05:08 PM
Love is not better than Melo:no:

ZHAKIDD532
10-19-2014, 06:08 PM
If I was starting a team, Melo. If I already had a good team and wanted to make it better, Love.

Cocaine80s
10-19-2014, 06:11 PM
Love

Smook A.
10-19-2014, 06:27 PM
Well obviously both guys are elite scorers. Love is a better rebounder and passer. Melo's defense is average and Love doesn't really play good defense. All in all, If I had to chose between the two, I would have to pick Kevin Love because he's younger.

RoundMoundOfReb
10-19-2014, 06:29 PM
This is a tough one but I'm leaning towards Love. Melo is probably the better player but on the type of team i'd like the Raptors to be (spurs like) Love seems like he'd be a better fit..

JohnMax
10-19-2014, 06:32 PM
Melo

outbreak
10-19-2014, 06:32 PM
depends on the team. If I had a line up like last seasons bulls or memphis or something established defensively I'd look at Melo. Any other situation and I'd take Love. Without an elite defence already in place Melos game will do nothing but first and second round exits.

stalkerforlife
10-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Melo if they have to be a first option.

Love if they are a 2nd or 3rd option.

Cone
10-19-2014, 06:53 PM
melo 10/10

Eric Cartman
10-19-2014, 07:40 PM
The one that has made the playoffs.

Cold soul
10-19-2014, 07:46 PM
Melo

StephHamann
10-19-2014, 07:50 PM
My Team (Mavs) would take Melo, because we already have a better PF than Love.

ralph_i_el
10-19-2014, 09:59 PM
Love. He's a better and more willing passer. They're on par as scorers. Love is an elite rebounder, and Melo is only an average rebounder for a 4

JtotheIzzo
10-19-2014, 10:43 PM
Melo, and if you say otherwise, you are probably an established championship, veteran team looking specifically for a stretch four.

sirkeelma
10-20-2014, 12:33 AM
Franchise = Melo
Fantasy = Love

b1imtf
10-20-2014, 12:42 AM
None.

j3lademaster
10-20-2014, 12:46 AM
Love because he's younger.

La Frescobaldi
10-20-2014, 01:23 AM
From a pure stats point of view......... Last year

Carmelo Anthony had a stat line of 27pts 8 reb 3 ast
vs.
Kevin Love who had a line of 26pts 12 reb & 4.4 ast

(also, Anthony skewed his point #s considerably with a 60 point game.)

Advantage: Love.
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Anthony runs .858% at the free throw line and 7 FTs per game.

Love made .821% from the charity stripe and 8 FTs per game.

Advantage: Anthony... slightly.
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Neither player is elite on defense; Anthony is better at man D, Love is better at team D.

Advantage: wash.

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Field goal percentage is a wash at 45%.

Advantage: wash.
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+/-

Anthony + 1.2
Love +5.6

Advantage: Love.
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When you start looking at per 36 minutes...........
(Love 25/12/4 vs. Anthony 27 7.5/2.9)
Per 36 minutes is in Love's favor.
Advantage: Love.

or per 100 possessions,
(Love with 35.4 17 rebounds and 6 assists
over
Anthony at 37, 11, and 4.3 assists.)
Per 100 possessions is vastly in Love's favor.

Advantage: Love.

................ the picture is clearer.

Advantage: Love.

I<3NBA
10-20-2014, 02:40 AM
goddamn. that's a hard choice. both no defense players.

Genaro
10-20-2014, 03:11 AM
Melo is the better player but depending on the situation Love could be a better choice.

La Frescobaldi
10-20-2014, 06:59 AM
Melo is the better player but depending on the situation Love could be a better choice.

Perhaps. I disagree completely, but that's okay.

The interesting thing is how Kevin Love has been unceasingly attacked on this board for his 'empty stats'.

Yet Carmelo Anthony's Knicks were much worse than the Timberwolves and he gets a pass?

Granted Anthony has been to the playoffs - but not last year - his teams have consistently been better than the Wolves especially when you consider injuries.

When Coach Karl is calling Anthony out, he is a big fat fail. And when he then proceeded to deliberately dump on Linsanity, he lost any consideration as a great player. Great players do not do those kinds of things.

T_L_P
10-20-2014, 07:17 AM
Love is better than Melo and Melo is getting old. He maybe has a couple of prime years left, if that.

Human Error
10-20-2014, 07:52 AM
Love is the better player of two. Both are not as great as being given credit for though.

Nets fan 93
10-20-2014, 10:59 AM
If by your team you mean, your favorite team I'd pick Kevin Love. He's a nice fit next to Lopez.

I wouldn't mind melo either. But love really would help the nets with their rebounding.

KungFuJoe
10-20-2014, 11:17 AM
Love.

I'm not a fan of either guy, but Love will take a backseat to a #1 in order to win a chip.

Melo could be on his deathbed and he wouldn't pass the ball from a gurney.

navy
10-20-2014, 01:02 PM
Love.

I'm not a fan of either guy, but Love will take a backseat to a #1 in order to win a chip.

Melo could be on his deathbed and he wouldn't pass the ball from a gurney.
You know this because?

bizil
10-20-2014, 03:28 PM
A lot of the time it can depend on what u need when judging a perimeter player vs. a big man. Even though Melo plays some PF, he's a pure SF frankly. And in terms of SF's he's among the best scorers and rebounders. I'm talking like in the top two or three for each category. Love is great at scoring, boards, and passing. I think I would roll with Melo in this one, but as I said earlier it really comes down to what u need. Both are among the top eight players in the world.

Smoke117
10-20-2014, 03:32 PM
I'll take big kev.

oarabbus
10-20-2014, 03:58 PM
A lot of the time it can depend on what u need when judging a perimeter player vs. a big man. Even though Melo plays some PF, he's a pure SF frankly. And in terms of SF's he's among the best scorers and rebounders. I'm talking like in the top two or three for each category. Love is great at scoring, boards, and passing. I think I would roll with Melo in this one, but as I said earlier it really comes down to what u need. Both are among the top eight players in the world.


Love is THE best Scorer and rebounder at PF, though, for True PFs. Maybe the best passer as well? :confusedshrug:

And definitely the best volume 3pt shooter, maybe someone like Ryan Anderson is better but he's not as dangerous as Love.

bizil
10-21-2014, 02:14 AM
Love is THE best Scorer and rebounder at PF, though, for True PFs. Maybe the best passer as well? :confusedshrug:

And definitely the best volume 3pt shooter, maybe someone like Ryan Anderson is better but he's not as dangerous as Love.

I'm fully aware of Love's greatness!! I already said Love was great at passing, scoring, and rebounding. I was just saying what Melo's attributes were. Because frankly people spend too much time shitting on him instead of giving him props for being a future HOFer when his career is done. I'm a student of the game who already knew Love was tops in the L for PF's in terms of scoring average and rebounding average. I was also fully aware of his great passing. But for me, I would take Melo. But wouldn't complain if someone chose Love. Melo is just as capable of leading SF's in scoring and rebounding (like Durant and Bron as well) as Love is doing the same at PF's. The passing Love provides is MORE OF A BONUS at PF instead of a premium.

bizil
10-21-2014, 04:54 AM
And while I think Love is a stud and among the top 10 players in the L, he doesn't wreak havoc in the paint in as many ways as Blake, LMA, and Davis do. Also he's not an elite defender either. So I could see somebody arguing Blake, LMA, or Davis over Melo just as much as Love and maybe even more. Because all three of those guys dominate the paint in more ways than Love. So a squad might rather have a great big man over a great perimeter player in that sense. And scoring wise Blake and LMA are on par with Love and Davis SOON WILL BE! But Love is a beast on the paint in terms of boards, so I'm sure as hell not calling him soft. The magic of Love frankly is skill level in terms of shooting, rebounding, and passing. Dominant defense and offense in the paint ISN'T. Most of the great PF's historically other than Dirk were dominant in the paint, dominant frontcourt defenders, or both.

veilside23
10-21-2014, 12:18 PM
melo ... i would never put my franchise for kevin love... melo is a franchise player.. i am not even a fan of melo...

MellowYellow
10-22-2014, 03:19 AM
Perhaps. I disagree completely, but that's okay.

The interesting thing is how Kevin Love has been unceasingly attacked on this board for his 'empty stats'.

Yet Carmelo Anthony's Knicks were much worse than the Timberwolves and he gets a pass?

Granted Anthony has been to the playoffs - but not last year - his teams have consistently been better than the Wolves especially when you consider injuries.

When Coach Karl is calling Anthony out, he is a big fat fail. And when he then proceeded to deliberately dump on Linsanity, he lost any consideration as a great player. Great players do not do those kinds of things.

Much worse? Really? Since when is a 3 game difference much better? Not to mention Love had a much better supporting cast around him. Melo has taken worse teams than last year's wolves to the playoffs almost his entire career.

BigBoss
10-22-2014, 03:23 AM
They're both losers so pick your poison.

oarabbus
10-22-2014, 03:28 AM
Much worse? Really? Since when is a 3 game difference much better? Not to mention Love had a much better supporting cast around him. Melo has taken worse teams than last year's wolves to the playoffs almost his entire career.

You realize that the Timberwolves play in the West? Which means They play West teams for 52 games and East for only 30?

And the East plays 52 games vs. the East and 30 vs. the West? That 3 game difference is HUGE.

navy
10-22-2014, 03:45 AM
Love is THE best Scorer and rebounder at PF, though, for True PFs. Maybe the best passer as well? :confusedshrug:

And definitely the best volume 3pt shooter, maybe someone like Ryan Anderson is better but he's not as dangerous as Love.
No sure I agree with that. He scores alot of points on good percentages, but he's not gonna get you a basket when/if you really need it.

bizil
10-22-2014, 06:03 PM
No sure I agree with that. He scores alot of points on good percentages, but he's not gonna get you a basket when/if you really need it.

I agree! My thing about Love is he's a stretch PF, but he's not a stretch PF with a swingman's skillset like McAdoo or Dirk. Love gets his points by his great shooting and hitting the glass hard. But he's not really dominant on the block scoring like LMA or a freak athlete who can overwhelm like Blake. So sure he's a very good-great scorer, but IT'S no lock he's the best scoring PF in the world. He led PF's in scoring last year, but LMA and Griffin were splitting the pie with WAY MORE TALENT on their teams. But don't get it twisted, u could still easily argue Love as the best PF in the world. But it's more due to his combo of toughness and fundamental skill levels on offense. It's not so much he was dominating a game scoring the way guys like Barkley, McAdoo, Malone, Hayes, Petitt, or Dirk would do at PF. As great as Love is scoring, I think those guys are on another level.

Fire Colangelo
10-22-2014, 06:13 PM
I would take Love for the Raptors.

Outlet passes to Derozan/Ross :bowdown:

ImKobe
10-22-2014, 06:15 PM
Melo...

KevinNYC
10-22-2014, 06:42 PM
Perhaps. I disagree completely, but that's okay.

The interesting thing is how Kevin Love has been unceasingly attacked on this board for his 'empty stats'.

Yet Carmelo Anthony's Knicks were much worse than the Timberwolves and he gets a pass?

Granted Anthony has been to the playoffs - but not last year - his teams have consistently been better than the Wolves especially when you consider injuries.

When Coach Karl is calling Anthony out, he is a big fat fail. And when he then proceeded to deliberately dump on Linsanity, he lost any consideration as a great player. Great players do not do those kinds of things.


Stats Definitely favor Love. Love played 200 less minutes than Carmello and according to win shares produced 3.5 more wins. He's also more efficient

MellowYellow
10-23-2014, 12:01 AM
Stats Definitely favor Love. Love played 200 less minutes than Carmello and according to win shares produced 3.5 more wins. He's also more efficient

No Love is not more efficient, and Love only added .7 more wins despite his team having 3 more wins
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/sort/VORPe/year/2014

Melo playing so much wore him down, and actually decreased his overall stats/efficiency. Love is only a better rebounder, and marginally better passer. Melo is better at everything else... Scoring, defense, shooting, creating for himself.

gts
10-23-2014, 12:07 AM
Carmelo every day of the week