Predicting the Decline of the Comic Book Movie

[SpecialQue]

http://comicsalliance.com/supermovies-this-is-what-the-next-few-years-of-your-life-looks-like-infographic/

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This is the slate of upcoming comic book movies. Seriously, take a look at that. My money is on 2016 being the year when disaster begins to strike this genre. There is no fvcking way audiences are going to make seven comic book movies all hits.

[Shade8780]

After Captain America 3.

[SpecialQue]

I have a strong feeling that Fantastic Four and Sinister Six are going to underperform.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Guardians two will be the last big one

[rezznor]

i hope the xmen, spiderman, and fantastic four movies all bomb so marvel can get them back

[SugarHill]

I have a strong feeling that Fantastic Four and Sinister Six are going to underperform.

I had a strong feeling Gaurdians would flop.

but seriously, you're probably right and that's a lot of comic book movies :biggums:


i hope the xmen, spiderman, and fantastic four movies all bomb so marvel can get them back
:coleman:

[~primetime~]

I feel like Ben Affleck cold single-handedly ruin comic book movies for all of us :(


I'll be a fan rest of my life though...Guardians was amazing imo, can't wait for part 2

Love all things X-Men as well, don't think I'll grow tired of those

[SpecialQue]

i hope the xmen, spiderman, and fantastic four movies all bomb so marvel can get them back

Disagree about X-Men. That universe has been going on for years now, and there have been enough good movies in it that I don't see how Marvel can improve on it. Plus it's going to be near-impossible to find a better Wolverine.

After Guardians, there's nothing that I want more than a Marvel Fantastic Four movie. Sadly, it doesn't look like Fox plans to ever sell the rights, even if the new one tanks.

[SugarHill]

Disagree about X-Men. That universe has been going on for years now, and there have been enough good movies in it that I don't see how Marvel can improve on it. Plus it's going to be near-impossible to find a better Wolverine.

After Guardians, there's nothing that I want more than a Marvel Fantastic Four movie. Sadly, it doesn't look like Fox plans to ever sell the rights, even if the new one tanks.

Let's be real, Wolverine can be improved upon. For one, dude is way too tall. And by for one, I mean that's my only real gripe.

[~primetime~]

Hugh Jackman claims that Wolverine 3 will be his last Wolverine

although I swear I have heard him say that before...



he just needs to come to grips with the fact that he is type cast as Wolverine...it's too late, it's who he is

[SugarHill]

he just needs to come to grips with the fact that he is type cast as Wolverine...it's too late, it's who he is
Nah, dude did a lot of other notable films

[JohnnySic]

They will keep making them as long as they keep making $$$.

People love their summertime comic book movies.

I grew tired of this genre a long time ago. :sleeping

[Myth]

I have a strong feeling that Fantastic Four and Sinister Six are going to underperform.

Well, 2 shitty F4 movies and 3 very underwhelming Spider-man movies will do that.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Hugh Jackman claims that Wolverine 3 will be his last Wolverine

although I swear I have heard him say that before...



he just needs to come to grips with the fact that he is type cast as Wolverine...it's too late, it's who he is
Hugh Jackman has done plenty besides wolverine he's just fine

[Clyde]

Saying comic book movies will decline is like saying action movies will decline.

they're not gong anywhere
:facepalm

[BigBoss]

I agree OP except it'll be 2018. People want to see a Justice League, then they'd have seen it all and will lose interest.

It's the golden age for super hero movies. They are invading television as well. I say this golden age runs for 10 years. It started in 2008 with Iron Man and the Dark Knight. Going by that standard it'll end around 2018 with the Justice League movie. I think at the point viewers have SEEN it all.

Predictions.

1. Spiderman 3 and Fantastic 4 will under perform.

2. X-Men will recast Wolverine and we'll never see the original cast again after Apocalapse..

3. DC will be a bust and some of those solo movies will get scrapped and turn into team ups. That SEEMS to be the trend i.e. Batman V Superman, Captain America 3 with Iron Man, etc.

4. Marvel's will go strong until the Thanos Avenger movie. Audience will grow up. Actors will demand too much money. They'll lose steam.


I think audiences will grow tired of team ups and MISS the solo character driven flicks i.e. Batman Begins, Sam Raimi's Spidermans. We'll see a return to that in the future.

[kentatm]

First off, can you change the pic to this one in the OP. Shit is too damn big brah.


http://i61.tinypic.com/jtmdex.jpg





This is the slate of upcoming comic book movies. Seriously, take a look at that. My money is on 2016 being the year when disaster begins to strike this genre. There is no fvcking way audiences are going to make seven comic book movies all hits.

as for your premise... :coleman:

You act as if EVERY comic movie has been a success to this point. There have been quite a few that failed at the box office. Ghost Rider 2, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern, Cowboys and Aliens, R.I.P.D., Priest, I Frankenstein, Sin City 2, Punisher War Zone are all fairly recent examples.

[BigBoss]

First off, can you change the pic to this one in the OP. Shit is too damn big brah.


http://i61.tinypic.com/jtmdex.jpg





as for your premise... :coleman:

You act as if EVERY comic movie has been a success to this point. There have been quite a few that failed at the box office. Ghost Rider 2, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern, Cowboys and Aliens, R.I.P.D., Priest, I Frankenstein, Sin City 2, Punisher War Zone are all fairly recent examples.

None of those movies are part of a shared universe azzhole which OP is implying. Check your facts.

[kentatm]

None of those movies are part of a shared universe azzhole which OP is implying. Check your facts.

the facts are he didnt say shit about shared universe movies being the only ones applicable to this thread :hammerhead: :applause:

oh and BTW, Green Lantern was supposed to be the flick that kicked off the DC shared universe.

[Crystallas]

Hollywood will milk everything to its destruction. I'm already sick of comic book movies.

[~primetime~]

Nah, dude did a lot of other notable films

Hugh Jackman has done plenty besides wolverine he's just fine
he is definitely type cast as Wolverine...he really hasn't done that much since playing Wolverine 20 times.

Les Mis

[KingBeasley08]

[QUOTE=~primetime~]he is definitely type cast as Wolverine...he really hasn't done that much since playing Wolverine 20 times.

Les Mis

[riseagainst]

First off, can you change the pic to this one in the OP. Shit is too damn big brah.


http://i61.tinypic.com/jtmdex.jpg





wonder woman

:bowdown:
:bowdown:

[~primetime~]

Nah Jackman has a pretty good filmography. Why do you think it's bad?
not that many good films? What films do you think are so great?

I loved The Prestige...and that's about it

It looks like he got some praise for Prisoners, but I have never seen that

[Jailblazers7]

...action movies have declined

Do you even 80s/early90s dude?

Yeah, action movies are in the toilet right now. They are about to release a movie starring Keanu Reeves is playing a knock off of Liam Neeson except that the reason he is hunting down a criminal organization is because someone killed his dog.

[KingBeasley08]

not that many good films? What films do you think are so great?

I loved The Prestige...and that's about it

It looks like he got some praise for Prisoners, but I have never seen that
He's got a nice mix of action, drama, comedy, and musicals. That's not being "typecast". That's the opposite of what the word means

[Nowitness]

its getting out of hand now.

even for mass target summer movies most of these comic book ones flat out suck.

[~primetime~]

He's got a nice mix of action, drama, comedy, and musicals. That's not being "typecast". That's the opposite of what the word means
Jackman is typecast as Wolverine, which is why he keeps threatening to never do it again...people look at him and think "Wolverine"

[QUOTE]Many actors (see Robert Downey Jr. or Natalie Portman) transition seamlessly from serious fare to summer blockbusters. But Wolverine has been both a blessing and curse for Jackman. [COLOR="Red"]The Marvel comic book character was the role that put the unknown Australian actor on the map in the first Singer

[KingBeasley08]

Jackman is typecast as Wolverine, which is why he keeps threatening to never do it again...people look at him and think "Wolverine"


http://variety.com/2013/film/news/after-prisoners-should-hugh-jackman-retire-from-wolverine-1200647305/

The guy has done like 6 Wolverine movies and few other films that hit it big, THAT's what typecast is. Not sure why some of you are making him out to be Daniel Day-Lewis.
Typecast means you only get roles similar to what you are known for.

Jackman has done MANY different roles from Wolverine. I think you just don't know typecast means and keep arguing to deflect from that

Daniel Day-Lewis has nothing to do with it. Never said he's one of the best actors ever. That Variety article is also bogus. Prisoners was a box office success. Clearly the audiences didn't have a problem seeing him as someone other than Wolverine :oldlol:

[~primetime~]

Typecast means you only get roles similar to what you are known for.

Jackman has done MANY different roles from Wolverine. I think you just don't know typecast means and keep arguing to deflect from that




:facepalm

"typecasting is the process by which a particular actor becomes strongly identified with a specific character"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typecasting_(acting)



I JUST posted an article talking about how he is trying to get of the Wolverine typecast dude...just admit you are wrong here and move on.

[Myth]

[QUOTE=~primetime~]he is definitely type cast as Wolverine...he really hasn't done that much since playing Wolverine 20 times.

Les Mis

[~primetime~]

Go watch Prisoners.
yeah, in that article it says that is the one movie that could have helped him break free from Wolverine

[Myth]

Also, he was in Chappie, which is a pretty good movie (same director as District 9/Elysium). It will get a wide release next year.

Never saw Real Steel and have no intention of seeing it, but it did well, as well as multiple cartoons he voiced. I'd say he has done just fine outside of the X-men movies.

[~primetime~]

well, clearly he is worried about it which is why he keeps saying "this is the last"

I'm just saying he should just say fck it and go all in...just be Wolverine, stop trying to fight it

[Myth]

well, clearly he is worried about it which is why he keeps saying "this is the last"

I'm just saying he should just say fck it and go all in...just be Wolverine, stop trying to fight it

He's worried until that check is put in front of him :lol

Actually, it is very possible he keeps saying it is his last to increase the size of that check. Fox doesn't want to lose him.

[KingBeasley08]

:facepalm

"typecasting is the process by which a particular actor becomes strongly identified with a specific character"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typecasting_(acting)



I JUST posted an article talking about how he is trying to get of the Wolverine typecast dude...just admit you are wrong here and move on.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


But it hasn't prevented him from getting other roles in other genres. Jesus Christ. Typecast is someone like Adam West who couldn't get another job after Batman. Many actors are strongly known for one role. They aren't typecast into that role. If Jackman couldn't get anything other than X-Men movies, you'd have a point

[SugarHill]

Also, he was in Chappie, which is a pretty good movie (same director as District 9/Elysium). It will get a wide release next year.

Never saw Real Steel and have no intention of seeing it, but it did well, as well as multiple cartoons he voiced. I'd say he has done just fine outside of the X-men movies.

Chappie looks nice

You always see these films :coleman:

[~primetime~]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


But it hasn't prevented him from getting other roles in other genres. Jesus Christ. Typecast is someone like Adam West who couldn't get another job after Batman. Many actors are strongly known for one role. They aren't typecast into that role. If Jackman couldn't get anything other than X-Men movies, you'd have a point
and how the fck would you know if playing Wolverine 6 times has prevented him from other roles or not?

why do you think he keeps saying "this is the last time"?

[SugarHill]

Yeah, action movies are in the toilet right now. They are about to release a movie starring Keanu Reeves is playing a knock off of Liam Neeson except that the reason he is hunting down a criminal organization is because someone killed his dog.
:roll: :roll:

[KingBeasley08]

and how the fck would you know if playing Wolverine 6 times has prevented him from other roles or not?

why do you think he keeps saying "this is the last time"?
Because he's tired of playing the same character? Not a new thing, many actors get tired to playing one character.


Well he's clearly gotten other roles so I have more to support my argument than yours. "People can't imagine him in other roles. Look at this Variety article" even when Prisoners and other films have been doing great at the box office


Dude even got an Oscar nod like 2 years ago :facepalm

[SugarHill]

and how the fck would you know if playing Wolverine 6 times has prevented him from other roles or not?

why do you think he keeps saying "this is the last time"?

Maybe he's just tired of the character...

[~primetime~]

Because he's tired of playing the same character? Not a new thing, many actors get tired to playing one character.


you sure about that?

Hugh Jackman worried about being typecast (http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/hollywood/hugh-jackman-worried-about-being-typecast_141183.html)

:lol


you're not his agent...stop acting like you know what the role has or hasn't done for him

[~primetime~]

Depp was worried about being typecast as Jack Sparrow and he has done 100x more than Jackman

[Myth]

Chappie looks nice

You always see these films :coleman:

I won't anymore now that I live in Arizona. What a shit state.

[Myth]

you sure about that?

Hugh Jackman worried about being typecast (http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/hollywood/hugh-jackman-worried-about-being-typecast_141183.html)

:lol


you're not his agent...stop acting like you know what the role has or hasn't done for him

Worried that he "will" get typecast, as in "has the potential to be."

[~primetime~]

Worried that he "will" get typecast, as in "has the potential to be."
if 6 times hasn't done it then I don't see why 7 or 8 would...

[nightprowler10]

I'm not worried about the comic book movies tbh. Many of the movies are just such a different experience than the other that I think it can be milked successfully for a long time. TDK, Captain America 2, and GoG were not the same type of film by any stretch of the imagination.

[KingBeasley08]

you sure about that?

Hugh Jackman worried about being typecast (http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/hollywood/hugh-jackman-worried-about-being-typecast_141183.html)

:lol


you're not his agent...stop acting like you know what the role has or hasn't done for him
Good for him tho because he hasn't been typecast so no worries. Same goes for you. Quit acting like Wolverine is the only thing on his resume just because that's the only thing you've seen

[KingBeasley08]

Worried that he "will" get typecast, as in "has the potential to be."
Word. So far being Wolverine brought him a level of stardom that has probably helped him be in contention for certain roles.

[Rose]

I highly doubt Marvel movies end anytime soon. They just turned a super obscure comic book, into the movie of the summer and their third biggest movie in the MCU. That's not ending soon.

Some of those spideys aren't even likely to happen. AS3 lost its official release date. Venom may be cancelled, and the plot for sinister six keeps changing. There's even rumors they're gonna do another reboot.

X-Men movies, for better or worse, sell like mad. Plus they have a ridiculous amount of stories they can still cover, especially with DOFP basically rebooting the universe. They can go back and fix their ****ed up adaptations. If for some reason they connect Fantastic Four to the X-Men universe those movies might turn into a financial thing as well.

DC is probably gonna have a problem because they still haven't produced a good movie outside of Nolan's batman movies. Man of Steel got okay reviews, and green lantern was a critical flop as well as a financial one. And all their smaller properies/vertigo properties have underwhelmed as well.

If DC actually diversifies the art style of their movies they might make an expanded universe. Otherwise the only thing that's gonna change is instead of seeing Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash, GL and Aquaman solo movies we'll get new batman/superman movies. And those characters might just only be in just league movies. Or maybe a random team up like Flash/Wonder Woman.

[Myth]

if 6 times hasn't done it then I don't see why 7 or 8 would...

Well, that article was about other superhero roles. Not sure which ones, but he could be worried about being typecast as superheroes/action heroes in general, or whatever specific characters he was offered. Either way, I don't think he would be typecast at this point because Hollywood seems to be sold on him as a multi-talented actor, so I don't see 7 or 8 appearances as Wolverine being a problem either.

[~primetime~]

The Prestige is the only thing he has done outside of Wolverine that I have liked...and TBH it wasn't his performance that made the movie so good.

I'll just take you guy's word for it that he was good in Prisoners and Chappie...so there is a couple, perhaps Les Mis counts as another and maybe something else..so 4-5 good roles outside of Wolverine? IDK, I guess I am just not that impressed with his resume as you guys are. Feels very limited to me.



He currently has two more X-Men flicks in the works...Wolverine 3 and X-Men: Apocalypse. I mean if he isn't typecast by playing Wolverine 8 fckin times then he never will be and he should stop worrying about it, that's all I'm saying.

[Myth]

The Prestige is the only thing he has done outside of Wolverine that I have liked...and TBH it wasn't his performance that made the movie so good.

I'll just take you guy's word for it that he was good in Prisoners and Chappie...so there is a couple, perhaps Les Mis counts as another and maybe something else..so 4-5 good roles outside of Wolverine? IDK, I guess I am just not that impressed with his resume as you guys are. Feels very limited to me.



He currently has two more X-Men flicks in the works...Wolverine 3 and X-Men: Apocalypse. I mean if he isn't typecast by playing Wolverine 8 fckin times then he never will be and he should stop worrying about it, that's all I'm saying.

Chappie is a pretty good movie, but it certainly isn't because of Jackman. My point was he was still getting cast in decent movies where he wasn't a Wolverine type character. Jackman is a decent actor. He isn't anything special, other than being a decent jack of all trades.

I agree he shouldn't worry about it. As I said before, he potentially is bored of the character, and likely uses the "I'm afraid of being typecast" as a negotiation tactic to keep the Wolverine checks high.

Btw, I would be surprised if he ever does anything better than Prestige. If that is your bar (not saying it is), not only will you be disappointed in all Hugh Jackman movies, but most movies in general.

[Godzuki]

i never followed studio rights much but how the fukk does Fox have Xmen rights and not Marvel? thats so wrong on so many levels :facepalm

IMO when DC starts rolling out their shitty movies its going to crumble. seriously there is only so much you can do with magic lasso's, bracers, and shit....or super speed. Superman was teh suck too. Batman is the best thing they got going, and they got a huge help with its goth friendly nature.

tbh i really hate a lot of the heroes they make movies out of....

[rezznor]

i never followed studio rights much but how the fukk does Fox have Xmen rights and not Marvel? thats so wrong on so many levels :facepalm

IMO when DC starts rolling out their shitty movies its going to crumble. seriously there is only so much you can do with magic lasso's, bracers, and shit....or super speed. Superman was teh suck too. Batman is the best thing they got going, and they got a huge help with its goth friendly nature.

tbh i really hate a lot of the heroes they make movies out of....


in the 90's marvel was going bankrupt. they had to sell off their movie rights to stay afloat.

[Myth]

i never followed studio rights much but how the fukk does Fox have Xmen rights and not Marvel? thats so wrong on so many levels :facepalm



Marvel sold Fox the rights before Marvel decided they wanted to get into the movie game themselves. Fox, will have to put out a movie every few years or they will lose the rights too, so expect to see X-men movie after X-men movie put out by Fox until they stop making money off them or until the rights are purchased back. This is the same thing that is happening with Sony and Spider-man, and why we got a reboot so quickly after Spider-man 3. If the new Spider-man universe fails, Sony will probably look to sell the rights to Marvel since they already tanked 1 Spider-man universe.

[Lonely_Sandberg]

He's definitely not typecast, I believe he's hugely popular for stage theater works too. I wonder if that's where a lot of his gay rumors come from. lol

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[rezznor]

Marvel sold Fox the rights before Marvel decided they wanted to get into the movie game themselves. Fox, will have to put out a movie every few years or they will lose the rights too, so expect to see X-men movie after X-men movie put out by Fox until they stop making money off them or until the rights are purchased back. This is the same thing that is happening with Sony and Spider-man, and why we got a reboot so quickly after Spider-man 3. If the new Spider-man universe fails, Sony will probably look to sell the rights to Marvel since they already tanked 1 Spider-man universe.


yup, especially since Sony as a company are not doing well financially. they may get out of the movie game altogether. Fox won't be giving up x-men anytime soon but there is some hope for spiderman returning to the fold.

fox has already lost their rights to ghost rider, daredevil, blade and punisher. those 4 have all reverted back to Marvel. marvel doesn't have plans to make movies for them right now, but a daredevil show is coming to netflix soon that will be in the same universe as the rest of the marvel big and small screen projects.

[ZeN]

The Prestige is the only thing he has done outside of Wolverine that I have liked...and TBH it wasn't his performance that made the movie so good.

I'll just take you guy's word for it that he was good in Prisoners and Chappie...so there is a couple, perhaps Les Mis counts as another and maybe something else..so 4-5 good roles outside of Wolverine? IDK, I guess I am just not that impressed with his resume as you guys are. Feels very limited to me.



He currently has two more X-Men flicks in the works...Wolverine 3 and X-Men: Apocalypse. I mean if he isn't typecast by playing Wolverine 8 fckin times then he never will be and he should stop worrying about it, that's all I'm saying.
He was also in The Fountain which was great.

[TheReal Kendall]

Lego Batman? :biggums:

[nightprowler10]

Lego Batman? :biggums:
Yeah, spinoff of batman from the Lego Movie.