Third greatest franchise - Spurs or Bulls?

[JohnnySic]

Celtics and Lakers are 1 and 2 but who's 3?

Before last season I'd have leaned to Bulls for the 6-4 title edge but now its 6-5 and the Spurs have been so good for so long.

Thoughts?

[T_L_P]

The two are close. Bulls have more rings so the edge probably goes to them, but the Spurs have been so consistent for so long.

Jordan and Duncan are undoubtedly the two most important players to a particular franchise in NBA history though.

[atljonesbro]

I'd say the spurs. The bulls success is purely luck based and they've done absolutely nothing outside of lucking out and getting Jordan. Even their minuscule success with Rose is purely luck based. They were absurdly lucky to even get him.

[nathanjizzle]

the bulls and its not even close.

[navy]

It's the spurs. The Bulls are irrelevant outside of a short Jordan stint.

[Purch]

the bulls and its not even close.

O really?

Chicago Bulls: 48 seasons. (1966-2014)

Franchise regular season win/loss: 2023-1864 (.520%)

Years missing playoffs: 1969, 1976, 1978 , 1979, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2008

Playoff Win/loss: 178-148 ( 1.2 %)

Finals apperances : 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

Nba Championships: 1991,1992,1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

Fact to note: Only team in Nba history to complete a 3 peat twice




San Antonio Spurs: 47 seasons (1967-2014) (First 9 seasons in the ABA)

Franchise regular season win/loss: 2262-1550 (.593%)

Years missing playoffs: 1973, 1984, 1987, 1989, 1997

Playoff win percentage: 219-189 (1.2 %)

Finals appearances: 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2013, 2014

Nba Championships: 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014

Fact to note: Never have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row

[L.Kizzle]

Neither probably the Sixers. They have a longer history.

Out of those 2 teams the Spurs.

[Papaya Petee]

For as short as theyve existed, the Heat!

[AirTupac]

For as short as theyve existed, the Heat!

future negged

[sportjames23]

Bulls.

Dominated the 90s (toughest decade along with the 80s in NBA history). MJ and the Bulls prevented more HOFers from winning rings than any other team. Did the repeat three-peat. Only Reinsdorf breaking up the team stopped them from keeping it going.

[Crystallas]

Spurs.

Of course, you can attribute a lot of success to one person in both franchises(Bulls: Jordan, Spurs: Popovich), but the Spurs have also done much better outside of that scope than the Bulls have done outside of Jordan.

[L.Kizzle]

Bulls.

Dominated the 90s (toughest decade along with the 80s in NBA history). MJ and the Bulls prevented more HOFers from winning rings than any other team. Did the repeat three-peat. Only Reinsdorf breaking up the team stopped them from keeping it going.
6 titles in one decade? They were more successful in the 70s than the 80s.

Ewing
Barkley
Miller
Stockton & Malone

[G0ATbe]

Bulls.

Dominated the 90s (toughest decade along with the 80s in NBA history).
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[T_L_P]

Spurs.

Of course, you can attribute a lot of success to one person in both franchises(Bulls: Jordan, Spurs: Popovich), but the Spurs have also done much better outside of that scope than the Bulls have done outside of Jordan.

If it's Pop it's Phil, surely? Before Phil got there MJ won nothing. Before Duncan got there Pop was a laughing stock. Or did you forget that Pop almost got fired the season they won, until Duncan, Robinson and Avery took the reigns?

[Papaya Petee]

future negged
I was half joking :roll:

[SpecialQue]

Bulls.

Dominated the 90s (toughest decade along with the 80s in NBA history).

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[nathanjizzle]

O really?

Chicago Bulls: 48 seasons. (1966-2014)

Franchise regular season win/loss: 2023-1864 (.520%)

Years missing playoffs: 1969, 1976, 1978 , 1979, 1980, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2008

Playoff Win/loss: 178-148 ( 1.2 %)

Finals apperances : 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

Nba Championships: 1991,1992,1993, 1996, 1997, 1998

Fact to note: Only team in Nba history to complete a 3 peat twice




San Antonio Spurs: 47 seasons (1967-2014) (First 9 seasons in the ABA)

Franchise regular season win/loss: 2262-1550 (.593%)

Years missing playoffs: 1973, 1984, 1987, 1989, 1997

Playoff win percentage: 219-189 (1.2 %)

Finals appearances: 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2013, 2014

Nba Championships: 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014

Fact to note: Never have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row

stats really? go to the basketball court and check everyones shoes.
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[mehyaM24]

spurs

popovich has instilled a system that has yet to be topped or duplicated. a true basketball genius.

bulls are solid, but overrated by low iq posters. they never won anything outside of the 90s, where one could argue, the latter of that decade was the league at its absolute WEAKEST.

[SpecialQue]

stats really? go to the basketball court and check everyones shoes.

Name some iconic Bulls players before and after Jordan's stint with the team. The Spurs had Gervin and Robinson.

[Nowitness]

spurs

popovich has instilled a system that has yet to be topped or duplicated. a true basketball genius.

bulls are solid, but overrated by low iq posters. they never won anything outside of the 90s, where one could argue, the latter of that decade was the league at its absolute WEAKEST.

how can you talk about iq when you think shaq > wade in 06??

cut wades numbers in half and they're still better than shaqwhale's

[mehyaM24]

how can you talk about iq when you think shaq > wade in 06??

cut wades numbers in half and they're still better than shaqwhale's

you know that funny taste in your mouth right now? my dick.

[AboutBuckets]

you know that funny taste in your mouth right now? my dick.

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[DJ Leon Smith]

Name some iconic Bulls players before and after Jordan's stint with the team. The Spurs had Gervin and Robinson.

Bulls also had Gervin. And Derrick Rose.

I have no dog in this fight but that was a real dumb argument.

[mehyaM24]

Bulls also had Gervin. And Derrick Rose.

I have no dog in this fight but that was a real dumb argument.
gervin was on the backside of his career in chicago. how long have you been watching basketball?

[Dengness9]

Tough question to answer.


But it's the Bulls for now. Doesn't matter if they won 6 in 8 years. They still have one more than San An.


Those 2 3 peat teams changed basketball forever.

Duncan and Drob are all time greats and I love them both.

But the NBA before or after hasn't seen a duo dominate like MJ and Pip.

The Bulls brand globally knocks the socks of the Spurs, no disrespect to the fantastic Spurs franchise.

[DJ Leon Smith]

gervin was on the backside of his career in chicago. how long have you been watching basketball?

Oh really George Gervin wasn't a MVP candidate when he played for the Bulls? Thank you for bringing that to my attention!

And in regards to your question I've been following the NBA for longer than you because I helped birth this website. And if you want to argue that you can be banned permanently. I know your posts, you're one of the most retarded posters here, which is saying a lot. You stand out as a piece of shit in a sea of diarrhea.

Have a great day.

[rmt]

Spurs.

Of course, you can attribute a lot of success to one person in both franchises(Bulls: Jordan, Spurs: Popovich), but the Spurs have also done much better outside of that scope than the Bulls have done outside of Jordan.

Popovich himself has said that the reason for SA's success is drafting DRob followed by Duncan.

[atljonesbro]

Any sh*tty franchise could have landed Jordan and had success. The bulls are just the lucky sh*tty franchise that it him. They are literally nothing without him. Very inept as a franchise

[Dengness9]

Any sh*tty franchise could have landed Jordan and had success. The bulls are just the lucky sh*tty franchise that it him. They are literally nothing without him. Very inept as a franchise

Bulls had some really competitive teams with Sloan, Van Lier, Gilmore back in the day.

Since 2004 the Bulls have missed the playoffs once? 07-08.

Not to mention the Bulls have stayed competitive w/out Rose while other teams don't have half the injury problems Chicago has had and even make the playoffs.

[atljonesbro]

Bulls had some really competitive teams with Sloan, Van Lier, Gilmore back in the day.

Since 2004 the Bulls have missed the playoffs once? 07-08.

Not to mention the Bulls have stayed competitive w/out Rose while other teams don't have half the injury problems Chicago has had and even make the playoffs.
The hawks have what a 7 year streak of playoffs? Still a sh*tty franchise like the bulls .

[Dengness9]

The hawks have what a 7 year streak of playoffs? Still a sh*tty franchise like the bulls .

Again it's funny when you try to lump the Bulls in the same group as the Hawks.

I've seen the Bulls beat the Hawks in the playoffs in the 90's and I've seen D Rose go for 44 in ATL in 2011 in the East semi's in a 6 game series win.

If the Bulls are a shitty franchise id really like to know what that makes the Hawks.

I do like ATL bringing back the old logo doe.

[ImKobe]

Spurs have been more consistent, but the Bulls have had some bad luck over the years with injuries.

Still, 6 > 5. 90s Bulls > anything the Spurs have to offer

[ninephive]

Easily the Spurs in my opinion. Duncan has a good chance at finishing with 6 rings (matching Jordan) and was having great seasons and runs all in between for a longer stretch. Jordan couldn't even get his team a winning record for 4 years and was getting embarrassed in the playoffs by guys like Terry Cummings until Pippen and Phil came along to give him a chance to win. Can you imagine a Duncan team with a losing record? Can you even imagine a sub-.600 Duncan team? And for 3 years in a row?! Can you imagine Duncan having a 1-9 playoff record? Can you imagine Duncan retiring time after time after time to leave his team in mediocrity? I think you could easily argue just comparing the Duncan and Jordan eras, the Spurs have had more success. Then you throw in the rest of the teams' histories and it's not even close.

[ninephive]

In 2010, ESPN ranked the NBA franchises all-time and had the Spurs at #3 ahead of the Bulls. Since that article was written, the Bulls have added to their resume one Conference Finals appearance. The Spurs, since then, have added three Conference Finals appearances, two Finals appearances, and another championship.

[lakerspng]

1. Lakers
2. Celtics
3. Spurs
4. Bulls
5. Sixers

[BuffaloBill]

Spurs. They've been so good for so long. Dat win %

[hiphopfan777]

Bulls. Spurs lost in the finals, bulls are perfect in finals.

[BigMacAttack]

I'd say the spurs. The bulls success is purely luck based and they've done absolutely nothing outside of lucking out and getting Jordan. Even their minuscule success with Rose is purely luck based. They were absurdly lucky to even get him.

Could say the same about the Spurs and Duncan though.

[JellyBean]

The two are close. Bulls have more rings so the edge probably goes to them, but the Spurs have been so consistent for so long.

Jordan and Duncan are undoubtedly the two most important players to a particular franchise in NBA history though.

Pretty much what TLP said. It is pretty close. But I would give the edge to the Spurs because of their ability to maintain a certain level of consistency for such a long time. I think they are looking at 17-18 straight years in the playoffs. That is huge.

[rmt]

Bulls. Spurs lost in the finals, bulls are perfect in finals.

So if the Spurs repeat, will you still pick Bulls just because Bulls are perfect in Finals?

Spurs have had an unprecedented run over the last 17 years - the highest winning percentage (71%) over a time period of that span - consistent excellence.