Ottawa attack discussion: Gunmen strike Canadian parliament

[rezznor]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/world/americas/canada-ottawa-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

It's still a bit chaotic right now, but reports have gone from a lone gunman to multiple shooters, perhaps some kind of organized attack.



Dozens of shots in Parliament
"Several shooting incidents" in Ottawa, police say
Soldier reported shot at war memorial
Parliament on lockdown
1 shooter dead, Canada tells U.S., source says
DEVELOPING STORY


Multiple shooters reported in Canada attack
By Ashley Fantz and Josh Levs, CNN
updated 12:10 PM EDT, Wed October 22, 2014

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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
NEW: Soldier shot dead, witness told CNN
Police: Several shooting incidents in downtown Ottawa
Parliament member tweeted that he heard at least 30 shots
CBC reporting that Parliament is on lockdown
(CNN) -- [Breaking news update, posted 11:59 a.m. ET]
There were two soldiers standing guard at the war memorial in Ottawa near Parliament, and a gunman shot one of them, a witness told CNN on Wednesday. Peter Henderson, a journalist, said other soldiers doing drills nearby ran to help the fallen soldier. Henderson said he knew the person shot was a soldier because of the ceremonial uniform the soldier was wearing.
[Previous news update, posted at 11:41 a.m. ET]
There were "several shooting incidents in downtown Ottawa" on Wednesday morning, police said on Twitter. "Incidents occurred at National War Memorial, near the Rideau Centre and Parliament Hill." All Ottawa police buildings remain on lockdown and are closed to the public, police also said on Twitter.
[Previous story, posted at 11:31 a.m. ET]
Gunshots reported at Canada\'s Parliament Gunshots reported at Canada's Parliament
Shooting at Ottawa War Memorial
Map: Shooting near ParliamentMap: Shooting near Parliament
There were "numerous gunmen" Wednesday morning at the Canada War Memorial shooting, said Marc Soucy of the Ottawa Police Service. Authorities are working to figure out if there were two or three gunmen, he said. Only one person was shot, Soucy said.
[Previous story, posted at 11:29 a.m. ET]
Wednesday morning's gunfire in the main Canadian Parliament building started in the foyer, and a second round of shooting happened about a minute later in a hallway or near the entrance to the Parliament's library, Ottawa journalist Josh Wingrove told CNN.
He said several officers had weapons drawn, and most of the dozens of shots that he heard appeared to have been fired by officers at the gunman.
When the shooting ended, a person was lying motionless on the ground near the library entrance, Wingrove said.
[Original story published at 11:10 a.m. ET]
A "lone gunman is deceased" after shots were fired in Ottawa, Canada, a member of the nation's Parliament, Bob Zimmer, tweeted Wednesday.
However, after that tweet, there were reports that there may have been further shots fired at Canada's Parliament.
Earlier Wednesday police said that one person was shot at a war memorial near Parliament as media reports circulated that gunfire was also heard in Parliament.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper was evacuated from the building and is safe, his press secretary Carl Vallee tweeted.

"@PMHarper is safe and he has left parliament hill," Vallee tweeted in French.
The Canadian Broadcasting Corp. reported that a soldier who was standing guard at the memorial was shot. Gunfire also was heard inside the halls of Parliament, CNN partner CTV News reported.
The CBC is reporting that Parliament is on lockdown.
"We don't know if it's someone from the military who was targeted or not," Ottawa police Constable Marc Soucy told CNN, adding that the gunfire was reported at 9:52 a.m. ET.
Parliament member Kyle Seeback tweeted: "Horrific day on parliament hill. Shots fired inside centre block during our caucus meeting. I'm safe locked in a office awaiting security."
Another member Tony Clement tweeted, "I'm with colleagues Mark Strahl and Kyle Seeback. PM was in Caucus but now secure. Assuming it's not safe to venture out yet ..."

Clement tweeted that there were "at least 30 shots."
Parliament member James Lunney tweeted: #HOC in Lockdown, lone gunman shot security guard, shot his way down Hall of Honor....we are all safe. Gunman dead! Thnk God & our scrty!"
Police were searching unlocked rooms in Parliament, Canada's Globe and Mail journalist Josh Wingrove tweeted.
He told CNN that he heard dozens of shots.
Canada raised its terror threat level
United States President Barack Obama has been briefed on the ongoing situation in Ottawa, White House officials said Wednesday.
The violence at Parliament comes just days after Canada raised its terror alert Friday.
Earlier this week, a man who Canadian authorities said was "radicalized" was shot to death after hitting and killing a Canadian soldier.

Police: Man who ran down and killed soldier was 'radicalized'
There is no indication that the Monday incident and Wednesday's shooting are related.
In Monday's vehicle attack, police arrested Martin Rouleau Couture, who reportedly converted to Islam about a year ago, last July and confiscated his passport, but lacked enough evidence to keep him in custody, said Martine Fontaine of the RCMP.
"When he was arrested, he was about to go to Turkey," Fontaine said. "We stopped him as he was about to leave Canada for terrorist actions. He was questioned when he was arrested. We have not been able to determine any real threat at this time."

[Brizzly]

Multiple gunmen opened fire at the Canadian Parliament complex, shooting at least one soldier and spraying as many as 30 shots inside the government building just two days after a terror attack in Quebec shook the nation, officials said.


Damn, Canada on fire.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/22/soldier-shot-at-war-memorial-near-canadian-parliament/

[Brizzly]

One gunman was killed roughly an half hour ago.

[Raymone]

ISIS.

[Raymone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrGqoISd-do

[tomtucker]

Muslim imigration is great ............:applause:

[Brizzly]

ISIS.

Very likely that the gunmen has jihadi affiliations, the attack two days ago was jihadists.

[Trollsmasher]

were they multicultural enrichers?

[tomtucker]

Little Mosque on the Prairie .........my favorite show :rockon:

[moaz]

To my European friends here:


were they multicultural enrichers?
Muslim imigration is great ............:applause:

Maybe they (or their parents) are immigrants. Exactly like the (Islamist) guy who ran 2 soldiers with his car yesterday.
His name was Martin Couture Rouleau. Those French immigrants are nasty.

But, I understand where your frustration comes from (esp. in the UK). you can't say that to your immigrant physician, policeman, MP, teacher, bus driver, pharmacist and so on. So you come to a NBA message board to relief some pressure.

[Patrick Chewing]

Allahu Snackbar! Allahu Snackbar!

[StephHamann]

Muslim imigration is great ............:applause:

:applause:

[moaz]

:applause:
Aber selbstverst

[StephHamann]

[QUOTE=moaz]Aber selbstverst

[moaz]

Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?

Thanks, but I have standards.

[Nick Young]

1 soldier has been killed today. 1 soldier was killed a few days ago in Quebec, run down by a radicalized Canadian.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-29728503

Remember though people, this is not real Islam doe. Islam has nothing to do with this.


#Religionofpeace
#Notallmuslims

[tomtucker]

To my European friends here:



Maybe they (or their parents) are immigrants. Exactly like the (Islamist) guy who ran 2 soldiers with his car yesterday.
His name was Martin Couture Rouleau. Those French immigrants are nasty.

But, I understand where your frustration comes from (esp. in the UK). you can't say that to your immigrant physician, policeman, MP, teacher, bus driver, pharmacist and so on. So you come to a NBA message board to relief some pressure.

my dear friend, there will come a day where we can say what we truly feel........the day the civil war in europe begins........muslims Vs. jews, christians and catholics

[Nick Young]

#Religionofpeace

[moaz]

my dear friend, there will come a day where we can say what we truly feel........the day the civil war in europe begins........muslims Vs. jews, christians and catholics
You forgot to add: Hail Breivik

[sweggeh]

my dear friend, there will come a day where we can say what we truly feel........the day the civil war in europe begins........muslims Vs. jews, christians and catholics

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, but even if it were to happen, they would probably win. You can't beat a guy who will sacrifice himself just to take you out.

[StephHamann]

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, but even if it were to happen, they would probably win. You can't beat a guy who will sacrifice himself just to take you out.

So the japanese won WW2?

[tomtucker]

You forgot to add: Hail Breivik

Hail.....i think you mean Heil.........but that guy you are talking about had nothing against jews, so he was/is not a nazi , if that is what you think...........infact, muslims love to hear tales from WW2, that is where alot of their enemies the jews died........

[step_back]

Of all the places in the World why Canada? Canada is one of the most non confrontational countries going.

[Nick Young]

Of all the places in the World why Canada? Canada is one of the most non confrontational countries going.
they are trying to drag the west in to unwinnable wars, overstretch our resources and win the war of attrition. It is actually very sound strategy. They know they can hold out in the mountains on their home turf for years.

[MavsSuperFan]

Of all the places in the World why Canada? Canada is one of the most non confrontational countries going.
doesnt matter, to radicals all infidels must die and are subhuman.

Old school convert or die mentality. In their minds the are fighting for world peace. Eg. once we all live under islam's flag we will be at peace

[tomtucker]

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard, but even if it were to happen, they would probably win. You can't beat a guy who will sacrifice himself just to take you out.

not really that dumb..........just 15 years ago there was war in the former yugoslavia..........that was muslims vs. various other religions........so why the heck should it not happen again................especially now, where everything seems a whole lot more fukked up............and there is even more of them in europe now, multiplying as we speak

[moaz]

Hail.....i think you mean Heil.........
I am not German, I usually use English words.

And if your idol Breivik has lived 70 years ago, some of his Jewish neighbors would have had some tough times (the same applies to some posters here btw)

[DonDadda59]

Sharia law isn't so bad, eh.

[moaz]

not really that dumb..........just 15 years ago there was war in the former yugoslavia..........that was muslims vs. various other religions........so why the heck should it not happen again................especially now, where everything seems a whole lot more fukked up............and there is even more of them in europe now, multiplying as we speak

The war in Yugoslavia began with the Slovenian/Rest Yugoslavia 10 days war
then it was Croatia vs. Serbia.

Bosnia (both muslims and Croatian) joined 1 year later against the Serbs, at the end of the war the Bosnian and croatian faught over Mostar.

I know it wont help in your case but:

The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in the United States reported in April 1995 that 90 percent of all the atrocities in the Yugoslav wars up to that point had been committed by Serb militants.[30] Most of these atrocities occurred in Bosnia.

[MavsSuperFan]

I know a lot of Muslim Canadians that are pissed off at Stephen Harper's pro Israel stance. Not saying that Canada is a player power on what's happening in the middle east, but if some psycho with a gun and who 'believes' in Islam, I can see them using that as an incentive to get trigger happy.
That may indeed by why this attack happened but its illogical to blame canada fro israel's actions in the israeli-palestian conflict.

If canada supported palestine and criticized israel nothing would change

[Trollsmasher]

The war in Yugoslavia began with the Slovenian/Rest Yugoslavia 10 days war
then it was Croatia vs. Serbia.

Bosnia (both muslims and Croatian) joined 1 year later against the Serbs, at the end of the war the Bosnian and croatian faught over Mostar.

I know it wont help in your case but:
>trusting CIA

[ArbitraryWater]

Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?

Moulin Rouge

[rufuspaul]

Sharia law isn't so bad, eh.


They know how to get women to shut the f*ck up, which isn't always a bad thing.

[fiddy]

Canada: Withdraw From The US-led Coalition For War in Iraq and Syria!

Canada shat its pants

[Brizzly]

Canada: Withdraw From The US-led Coalition For War in Iraq and Syria!

Canada shat its pants


What?

[Burgz V2]

Muslim imigration is great ............:applause:

that's funny because the last time I checked the "attack" in Quebec was by a French-Canadian?

and people responding to this thread, not knowing we have more terrorist attacks on Canadian soil by Quebecois separatists than all others combined. but sure, but sure, jump to conclusions and blame dem Muslims again.

:facepalm

[tomtucker]

that's funny because the last time I checked the "attack" in Quebec was by a French-Canadian?

and people responding to this thread, not knowing we have more terrorist attacks on Canadian soil by Quebecois separatists than all others combined. but sure, but sure, jump to conclusions and blame dem Muslims again.

:facepalm

Front de lib

[tomtucker]

and so it begins.............muslim sleeper cells waking up
.
first we invade their country, them we demand their money........then we kill em

[zoom17]

Soldier initially shot at the war memorial has passed away. RIP

[Nick Young]

God bless Stephen Harper.
Glad atleast one Non-American politician is not afraid to stand up against the terrorist pro-genocide organization Hamas.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I'm very proud of you for waiting for the facts and not immediately labeling this shooter(s) as Muslim, that would be baseless conjecture and you're clearly above such childish methods of discourse

[Nick Young]

I'm very proud of you for waiting for the facts and not immediately labeling this shooter(s) as Muslim, that would be baseless conjecture and you're clearly above such childish methods of discourse
BBC and Al Jazeera were reporting the gunmen's connection to ISIS earlier dawg, on the live news broadcasts I was watching.

[kentatm]

Remember though people, this is not real Islam doe. Islam has nothing to do with this.


it isnt

just like the KKK wasn't real Christianity even though they wrapped themselves in the Bible to justify their horseshit terroristic attacks on minorities.

[moaz]

were they multicultural enrichers?
Muslim imigration is great ............:applause:

Shooter Michael Zehaf-Bibeau born in Quebec as Michael Joseph Hall.
Ah those immigrants did it again.



A reminder to those who haven't read my post in the first page


Maybe they (or their parents) are immigrants. Exactly like the (Islamist) guy who ran 2 soldiers with his car yesterday.
His name was Martin Couture Rouleau. Those French immigrants are nasty.

[BurningHammer]

RIP the soldier

[MadeFromDust]

So the japanese won WW2?
lol Rut rohhhh :oldlol:

[MadeFromDust]

Allahu Snackbar! Allahu Snackbar!
Olly Olly oxen free. Olly Olly oxen free!

[MadeFromDust]

There was already a topic on this. But thanks anyway repost troll :rolleyes:

[zoom17]

http://i.gyazo.com/7f021e2aa47ca6bab658c050d7ca1a94.png

Gunmen

[MadeFromDust]

http://i.gyazo.com/7f021e2aa47ca6bab658c050d7ca1a94.png

Gunmen
Yup, looks like a moslem terrorist to me.

[SCdac]

damn that's crazy :( .. a known member of Hamas drove on to a sidewalk and killed an infant and others in Jerusalem today also... sad shit

[StephHamann]

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau has been identified by U.S. government sources as the suspect in the shooting at Parliament Hill in Ottawa.

Zehaf-Bibeau was born in Canada in 1982, lived in Quebec and was reportedly of Algerian descent. He allegedly shot and killed a soldier at the National War Memorial before entering the Centre Block building at Parliament and firing off more shots.

Two U.S. officials said that U.S. agencies have been advised that the shooter was a Canadian convert to Islam.

NO WAY!!!!!!!! :biggums:


http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/canadas-parliament-under-attack-dozens-of-shots-fired/#W54HTkkVRZBEbK0p.99

[KingBeasley08]

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau has been identified by U.S. government sources as the suspect in the shooting at Parliament Hill in Ottawa.

Zehaf-Bibeau was born in Canada in 1982, lived in Quebec and was reportedly of Algerian descent. He allegedly shot and killed a soldier at the National War Memorial before entering the Centre Block building at Parliament and firing off more shots.

Two U.S. officials said that U.S. agencies have been advised that the shooter was a Canadian convert to Islam.

NO WAY!!!!!!!! :biggums:


http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/canadas-parliament-under-attack-dozens-of-shots-fired/#W54HTkkVRZBEbK0p.99


Why mention his religion you bigot? Stop being Islamaphobic you racist!!

[moaz]

damn that's crazy :( .. a known member of Hamas drove on to a sidewalk and killed an infant and others in Jerusalem today also... sad shit
In the middle east nothing is as simple as it seems. Google "Hebron girl killed settlers" and you'll get more information about this tragic non ending story

[MadeFromDust]

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau has been identified by U.S. government sources as the suspect in the shooting at Parliament Hill in Ottawa.

Zehaf-Bibeau was born in Canada in 1982, lived in Quebec and was reportedly of Algerian descent. He allegedly shot and killed a soldier at the National War Memorial before entering the Centre Block building at Parliament and firing off more shots.

Two U.S. officials said that U.S. agencies have been advised that the shooter was a Canadian convert to Islam.

NO WAY!!!!!!!! :biggums:


http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/canadas-parliament-under-attack-dozens-of-shots-fired/#W54HTkkVRZBEbK0p.99
:eek: Dayummm you mean it really was a moslem terrorist immigrant? Yikes!

[rezznor]

There was already a topic on this. But thanks anyway repost troll :rolleyes:
my thread was posted first idiot

[MadeFromDust]

my thread was posted first idiot
:lebronamazed:

[9erempiree]

This is why they are so dangerous. They can be a convert because they read the book. Misinterpret it decide to force their reign of terror.

[9erempiree]

Don't know if this was posted but here is the identity of the gunman....Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2809571.1414016714!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_300/ottawa-guman-michael-zehaf-bibeau.jpg

[MadeFromDust]

This is why they are so dangerous. They can be a convert because they read the book. Misinterpret it decide to force their reign of terror.
Because that's what so many other moslems are doing around the world. The moslem terrorists set the standard of who's a real moslem or not, regardless if they might be the actual apostates.

[MadeFromDust]

Don't know if this was posted but here is the identity of the gunman....Michael Zehaf-Bibeau.

http://i.cbc.ca/1.2809571.1414016714!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_300/ottawa-guman-michael-zehaf-bibeau.jpg
Yeah it was posted already in one of the threads. He was an Algerian.

[MadeFromDust]

https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6sdwapcW4lvkrBXVFAvk4A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ca/News/Capress/8247726223220_high.jpg

this is the man who took down the shooter
first time he's had to fire his gun at someone in 29 years of service
Woahhh he looks like a badass. Terminator-like even

[DonDadda59]

https://s1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6sdwapcW4lvkrBXVFAvk4A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_ca/News/Capress/8247726223220_high.jpg

this is the man who took down the shooter
first time he's had to fire his gun at someone in 29 years of service

Pimpin ain't easy, but somebody's gotta do it. :applause:

[SCdac]

In the middle east nothing is as simple as it seems. Google "Hebron girl killed settlers" and you'll get more information about this tragic non ending story

did you watch the video? the driver clearly drove up on to the sidewalk to attack pedestrians at a fast speed. There's been dozens upon dozens of terrorist attacks (from Hamas, Hezbollah, PA, etc) in that country so it's not unheard of at all. Driver had a history with Hamas. I guess we can deflect and look at something else...

[Nick Young]

:eek: Dayummm you mean it really was a moslem terrorist immigrant? Yikes!
Islam is not responsible here dawgs. The man would have done the same thing if he was a Scientologist or a Buddhist. Islam and the teachings in the Koran had absolutely nothing to do with inspiring this attack.

[imdaman99]

I knew it would happen. The next 100 terrorist crimes will all be committed by Muslims who just converted the day before. And we will not be able to interview their family members because no one can get in touch with them. But check their facebook profiles! They have been posting Islamic quotes/terrorist talk!!!!!!!!!111111 Nick Young will provide us valid links put together by PGellar37 proving it's the trooof :rockon:

[MadeFromDust]

http://i.imgur.com/x4bModf.jpg
Niiiiiice

[theballerFKA Ace]

These oversized memes are annoying. I hope you guys get banned

[MadeFromDust]

These oversized memes are annoying. I hope you guys get banned
Just report them like I did. This too shall pass.

[Nanners]

Just report them like I did. This too shall pass.

who is banned now? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:


These oversized memes are annoying. I hope you guys get banned


i dont take pleasure in posting these oversized memes, but its the only way i know of to respond to trolls like this madefromdust clown

[zoom17]

Why is 9erempiree not banned? He's been spamming threads non stop lately.

[Patrick Chewing]

You're too confusing, Nick.

[theballerFKA Ace]

who is banned now? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:




i dont take pleasure in posting these oversized memes, but its the only way i know of to respond to trolls like this madefromdust clown

How about just ignoring his posts like everyone else around the web does with posts and topics they don't like :rolleyes:

[Patrick Chewing]

So when a Canadian born man who has probably never been to the Middle East and has no family in the Middle East converts to Islam and kills an infidel in the name of Islam, it's still not an Islamic problem huh??

[Nanners]

How about just ignoring his posts like everyone else around the web does with posts and topics they don't like :rolleyes:

how about ignoring the oversized memes then?

[Nick Young]

So when a Canadian born man who has probably never been to the Middle East and has no family in the Middle East converts to Islam and kills an infidel in the name of Islam, it's still not an Islamic problem huh??
I was being sarcastic dawg, Im on your side here.:cheers:

[theballerFKA Ace]

how about ignoring the oversized memes then?

I'd love to however that's impossible since it takes a minute of scrolling just to read other peoples posts. Don't be a jackass. What are you 12?

[BurningHammer]

Nowadays, Muslim is kinda like Godfather or Scarface movies; bad people think it is cool right now and follow it.

[BurningHammer]

The good thing is that now nation-wide security tightening is on and it will be harder for bigger threats in which Canada is one of ISIS targets.

[MadeFromDust]

who is banned now? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:




i dont take pleasure in posting these oversized memes, but its the only way i know of to respond to trolls like this madefromdust clown
Idunno who? Should be you for repeating and supporting the spam

[Nanners]

Idunno who? Should be you for repeating and supporting the spam

you were banned when i posted that, guess they made it a quick one.

[MadeFromDust]

you were banned when i posted that, guess they made it a quick one.
I drew attention to your spamming. Took one for the team. You, Ridonks, et. al. should all be banned right now.

[9erempiree]

Canada needs to step up its security against the Muslims that are shooting people in the name of Ahkbar.

[9erempiree]

So when a Canadian born man who has probably never been to the Middle East and has no family in the Middle East converts to Islam and kills an infidel in the name of Islam, it's still not an Islamic problem huh??

...and these Arab Muslims on ISH are targeting me and calling me a racist when it is not the ethnicity but an ideology I am talking about here.

The fact of the matter is that Islam does influence these violent behaviors. My parents never taught me that killing was wrong. It is within human nature to know it is wrong unless we are talking about back in the day shit. It is the 21st century and there are means to solve issues without killing. Obviously there is a correlation with Islam and these idiots who think the "book" is right.

[kNIOKAS]

So when a Canadian born man who has probably never been to the Middle East and has no family in the Middle East converts to Islam and kills an infidel in the name of Islam, it's still not an Islamic problem huh??
Yeah like Aurora shootings isn't a problem of Gotham

[Done_And_Done]

One of my best friends is currently stationed in Ottawa. He told me today that he met eyes with the victim yesterday near the same site his life was taken. Gave me chills when he told me this.

[nightprowler10]

I would really appreciate it if people stopped responding to posters that are on half the forum's ignore list.

Thanks.

[MadeFromDust]

...and these Arab Muslims on ISH are targeting me and calling me a racist when it is not the ethnicity but an ideology I am talking about here.

The fact of the matter is that Islam does influence these violent behaviors. My parents never taught me that killing was wrong. It is within human nature to know it is wrong unless we are talking about back in the day shit. It is the 21st century and there are means to solve issues without killing. Obviously there is a correlation with Islam and these idiots who think the "book" is right.
I think you've made it pretty clear you're questioning radical izlom and not a specific race of people. Your detractors are either trolls or just plain disingenuous.

[GimmeThat]

...and these Arab Muslims on ISH are targeting me and calling me a racist when it is not the ethnicity but an ideology I am talking about here.

The fact of the matter is that Islam does influence these violent behaviors. My parents never taught me that killing was wrong. It is within human nature to know it is wrong unless we are talking about back in the day shit. It is the 21st century and there are means to solve issues without killing. Obviously there is a correlation with Islam and these idiots who think the "book" is right.


when you take some matters/words/book literally, you are either on the side of making the error, or stating that there are no room for error.

as for doing so makes one extreme


it's really more so of the matter of ones mission/goal


wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being related to the term terrorism in another thread.

[Nanners]

Sorry to rain on the anti-muslim parade, it turns out the attacker was a homeless crackhead who recently tried to hold up a mcdonalds using a pointed stick.

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-shooter-tried-to-rob-vancouver-mcdonald-s-with-stick-1.2068636

But lets keep calling this whole thing "terrorism" instead of what it really was - a lone crazy drug addict.

[MadeFromDust]

Sorry to rain on the anti-muslim parade, it turns out the attacker was a homeless crackhead who recently tried to hold up a mcdonalds using a pointed stick.

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-shooter-tried-to-rob-vancouver-mcdonald-s-with-stick-1.2068636

But lets keep calling this whole thing "terrorism" instead of what it really was - a lone crazy drug addict.
Yeah, even a psych doc couldn't tell if he was crazy or just moslem. Try again luzer :rolleyes:

[quote]

[dunksby]

What happened to the rest of the gunmen? Any word on their whereabouts and identities?

[tomtucker]

http://www.mx.dk/diashow/2869/2869-Tzg8SLW5FkYBZXyqS70iiw.jpg
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http://www.mx.dk/diashow/2869/2869-3TZjpfEDitMojct9pzdk_g.jpg
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slain 24-year old soldier

[Nanners]

What happened to the rest of the gunmen? Any word on their whereabouts and identities?

pretty sure there werent actually any other gunmen. looks like this whole thing was just one crazy homeless crackhead.

[9erempiree]

pretty sure there werent actually any other gunmen. looks like this whole thing was just one crazy homeless crackhead.

yea bro, one crazy crackhead can bust into Parliament and shoot up the place. Homeless people are known for their tactical skills.

[Nanners]

yea bro, one crazy crackhead can bust into Parliament and shoot up the place. Homeless people are known for their tactical skills.

the mayor of ottowa said today that there was only one shooter, dumbass.

[dunksby]

pretty sure there werent actually any other gunmen. looks like this whole thing was just one crazy homeless crackhead.
I watched Harper and the opposition leader's speeches yesterday live without prior knowledge of what had happened and I thought something huge had gone down. At least good news is that it was just one guy gone haywire.

[brandonislegend]

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slain 24-year old soldier

[Nick Young]

Sorry to rain on the anti-muslim parade, it turns out the attacker was a homeless crackhead who recently tried to hold up a mcdonalds using a pointed stick.

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/ottawa-shooter-tried-to-rob-vancouver-mcdonald-s-with-stick-1.2068636

But lets keep calling this whole thing "terrorism" instead of what it really was - a lone crazy drug addict.

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[Nanners]

:hammerhead:

gtfo you conclusion jumping dumbshit, we are talking about a crazed homeless crackhead that acted alone.

obviously this attack is not terrorism, and obviously it had nothing to do with religion. it was about mental health.

[MadeFromDust]

:hammerhead:
Nick Young please show that biich Nanny the part where the psychiatrist declared the killer to not be mentally ill and was fit to stand trial. I'm thinking of blocking that annoying ass troll. I haven't seen one good intellectual thought come out of it since ever. He's such an idiot

[9erempiree]

gtfo dumbshit, we are talking about a crazed homeless crackhead that acted alone.

obviously this attack is not terrorism, and obviously it had nothing to do with religion. it was about mental health.

You "peaceful Muslims" are defending the Muslim world again. :facepalm Like being a homeless is going to cause him to do this shit. I like how you bring up his drug addiction and his homelessness as his justification for the shootings. You are, again, backing up these terrorists attack regardless of religion now. I have yet to hear you say it was a malicious and unfortunate attack.

Anyways, the guy was very religious and he admitted to this. You can find everything about this extremist here.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/michael-zehaf-bibeau-ottawa-gunman-asked-b-c-judge-to-send-him-to-jail-1.2810683

[Nanners]

Nick Young please show that biich Nanny the part where the psychiatrist declared the killer to not be mentally ill and was fit to stand trial. I'm thinking of blocking that annoying ass troll. I haven't seen one good intellectual thought come out of it since ever. He's such an idiot


being declared fit to stand trial does not mean you arent crazy.

but obviously you wouldnt know that, considering you are a complete fvcking moron.

please dont block me! i dont know how i would ever get over that :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

Here is the guy....looks more like a Muslim than a homeless to me.
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2014/10/24/1227100/647244-ef3fcd60-5af8-11e4-975b-09f9e3e8f101.jpg

The Muslims of ISH just want to say I am a Islamhomo, as they like to call themselves, when in fact nobody has condemn these heinous acts.

The reason why you guys are so offended is because you guys back up all Muslims regardless of extreme or peaceful and that is disgusting.

This is why I like ISH, they are not going to bend over backwards for you guys because of what you feel I say is offensive.\

[Nanners]

homeless crackhead randomly shoots someone .... lets blame it on islam.

[Nick Young]

homeless crackhead randomly shoots someone .... lets blame it on islam.
“He has been a devoted Muslim for seven years and he believes he must spend time in jail as a sacrifice to pay for his mistakes in the past and he hopes to be a better man when he is eventually released."

:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Nanners]

lol

if this guy had been christian would you be blaming the attack on christianity? or would you blame the fact that he was a homeless crackhead with mental health issues?

i can post some links to examples of murderers with mental health problems that happened to be christian if you want to discuss about this christian terrorist issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting
#notallchristians

[9erempiree]

lol

if this guy had been christian would you be blaming the attack on christianity? or would you blame the fact that he was a homeless crackhead with mental health issues?

i can post some links to examples of murderers with mental health problems that happened to be christian if you want to discuss about this christian terrorist issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Sikh_temple_shooting
#notallchristians

Here's what you don't get...there is no correlation with being homeless and a crack addict to these heinous crimes.

-but-

There is a correlation of crimes from extremists.

There are a lot of crackheads but you don't see the amount of violent crimes being committed versus the crimes committed by Muslims.

There was a research done and it stated that most violent crimes amongst Muslims are not isolated acts but a trend. You know what comes after trends right? Normality. It is the norm for these Muslims.

Again, my dislikes are towards the Muslim world and not the peaceful Muslims.

[Nanners]

There are a lot of crackheads but you don't see the amount of violent crimes being committed versus the crimes committed by Muslims.


in the US/Canada the amount of violent crime committed by homeless crackheads is probably 1000x the amount committed by muslims.

[Nick Young]

in the US/Canada the amount of violent crime committed by homeless crackheads is probably 1000x the amount committed by muslims.
We are talking about 1 specific crime and murderer in this thread. If you wish to speak about other murderers, start threads about them and stop trying to change the subject.

Also, did any of these other "1000x homeless crackheads" who weren't Muslim ever kill a soldier and attack Canadian parliament?


Do you remember the man in Quebec who ran over a soldier a few days ago? What religion was he following, sport?:confusedshrug:

[Nanners]

We are talking about 1 specific crime and murderer in this thread. If you wish to speak about other murderers, start threads about them and stop trying to change the subject.

Also, did any of these other "1000x homeless crackheads" who weren't Muslim ever kill a soldier and attack Canadian parliament?


Do you remember the man in Quebec who ran over a soldier a few days ago? What religion was he following, sport?:confusedshrug:

remember when a christian terrorist flew an airplane into a us government building?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

#notallchristians

[Nick Young]

remember when a christian terrorist flew an airplane into a us government building?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

#notallchristians
Stop trying to change the subject bro. That was 4 years ago:facepalm

This thread is about the murderer who attacked Canadian parliament. If you want to start a thread of the christian terrorist, start a separate thread.

[Nanners]

Stop trying to change the subject bro. That was 4 years ago:facepalm

This thread is about the murderer who attacked Canadian parliament. If you want to start a thread of the christian terrorist, start a separate thread.

im not changing the subject. you are the one who is claiming that these random attacks by crazy people are actually fueled by religious extremism and not just mental health issues, so really i am just finding examples to back up your argument.

remember when christian terrorists assassinated that abortion doctor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_George_Tiller)? seems like there are a lot of these violent attacks perpetrated by christian extremists in north america.
#notallchristians

[MadeFromDust]

remember when a christian terrorist flew an airplane into a us government building?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

#notallchristians

Welp, I think I gave this diipshiite more than enough opportunity to impress me with just one intelligent reply to anything, but *PLONK* good riddance.

[Patrick Chewing]

homeless crackhead randomly shoots someone .... lets blame it on islam.


A million Muslim terrorists can invade the country and start beheading everyone they come in contact with and you'll still be spouting off "Can't blame Islam, can't blame Islam" while your head rolls off your fat neck and on to the floor. Your mouth will still be moving and yapping away.

[LJJ]

homeless crackhead randomly shoots someone .... lets blame it on islam.

Yep. He shot a uniformed soldier and tried to go on a shooting rampage in the parliament because he wanted to wage jihad.

That's very "random".

[Dresta]

remember when a christian terrorist flew an airplane into a us government building?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack

#notallchristians
What's that got to do with Christianity? That's just a man being ground into insanity by the bureaucratic monster that is the IRS :lol .

How come you don't like this guy anyway? I mean, Noam Chomsky defended him and all, so i know how much of a hero he must be to you.

[Burgz V2]

A million Muslim terrorists can invade the country and start beheading everyone they come in contact with and you'll still be spouting off "Can't blame Islam, can't blame Islam" while your head rolls off your fat neck and on to the floor. Your mouth will still be moving and yapping away.

way to decontextualize. this is the most ridiculous thing you could possibly say in an argument.

[MadeFromDust]

A million Muslim terrorists can invade the country and start beheading everyone they come in contact with and you'll still be spouting off "Can't blame Islam, can't blame Islam" while your head rolls off your fat neck and on to the floor. Your mouth will still be moving and yapping away.
Sometimes the moslem terrorists are more merciful when dealing out murder. Not all suffer rolling heads. Some get to have heads smashed with rocks such as this daughter of ISIS...NSFW (too much snackbar jibber)

http://www.ijreview.com/2014/10/191744-stoning-mercy/

[imdaman99]

This is funny. People are calling someone who is a crack addict
a devoted Muslim.
I wonder which Mosque told him to be devoted, he had to be a crackhead.

#NotAllDevotedMuslimsAreCrackAddicts :rockon:

[9erempiree]

Yea, and a homeless crack addict has the ability to break into Parliament and use his tactical skills to gun down people. :oldlol:

Security would have spotted that from a miles away.

[Nanners]

What's that got to do with Christianity? That's just a man being ground into insanity by the bureaucratic monster that is the IRS :lol .

How come you don't like this guy anyway? I mean, Noam Chomsky defended him and all, so i know how much of a hero he must be to you.

well the guy had been a christian his entire life, but obviously it has absolutely nothing to do with christianity... that was my point :oldlol:

[9erempiree]

Sure looks like a crackhead to me. Not a Muslim.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03083/BIBEAU_3083226b.jpg

Looks nothing like these Muslims....

http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2012/09/Britain-Radical-Cleri_Horo1.jpg

[Nanners]

Sure looks like a crackhead to me. Not a Muslim.


yeah, cause its obvious whether or not someone smokes crack and is homeless based on a single grainy photograph with their face covered.

[Droid101]

9er is off his meds.

[Nanners]

9er is off his meds.

the ottowa gunman was probably off his meds too. mental illness is no joke, hopefully 9er gets his issues under control before he hurts someone.

#notallcrazypeople

[9erempiree]

and you two scums are condoning this. :facepalm

He is a Muslim and violent but because he's your brother, it is ok to defend him.

[Nanners]

and you two scums are condoning this. :facepalm

He is a Muslim and violent but because he's your brother, it is ok to defend him.

im not "condoning" anything you loon. mental health issues should be taken seriously.

take your meds 9er

[RidonKs]

yeah, cause its obvious whether or not someone smokes crack and is homeless based on a single grainy photograph with their face covered.

worked well enough in this case

http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/city_hall/2013/05/16/toronto_mayor_rob_ford_in_crack_cocaine_video_scan dal/rob_ford_1.jpg

[9erempiree]

Reports are false. He was not a convert of Muslim. He was raised as a Muslim.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29752077

[Kungfro]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/24/nathan-cirillo-highway-of-heroes-photos_n_6043546.html

[9erempiree]

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/10/24/nathan-cirillo-highway-of-heroes-photos_n_6043546.html

WE WILL NEVER FORGET.

Time to crack down on Jihad.

[MavsSuperFan]

9er shouldn't be putting this on all Muslims, but people need to realize there is a problem with Islam if it can be interpreted in this manner by so many radicals into justifying their murderous crimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVl3BJoEoAU

that is a video where sam harris explains why islam is more problematic than lots of religions in its calls for violence.

Cliff notes, according to harris in the video above
- Although both Islam and Christianity call for violence in a lot of circumstances, the bible is much longer and with much more contradictory messages than the Qoran.

- The bible is more passive in its message, eg. god will destroy/kill the sinners. also a lot of the bible is told in a narrative manner Eg. Abraham to kill his son isaac, not that the action is encouraged in general.
the Qoran is more active in encouraging actions.

-the example of jesus is far more pacifist than the example of Mohammad

- ideas in books that people believe in (Eg. the bible and qoran) have an effect on how people behave. Eg. sam harris sites christians blocking stem cell research as only explainable via the idea of the bible.

[MadeFromDust]

Haven't really paid attention to it (busy).. but from what I've read from the decent posters so far: dude was a homeless drug addict with mental health problems.. an isolated incident. But of course the wackos on this board (and unfortunately some in the media) make it about something else to suit their agenda.
:oldlol: Willful delusional poster ^^

It was a dedicated radicalized moslem, who finally made the inevitable leap to full blown moslem terrorist. A psychiatrist declared him mentally fit

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt