Gotham (TV series) thread

[SexSymbol]

Anybody watching this great show about story of batman's greatest villains and Jim Gordon?
I think it's a really well written show with that cartoonish feeling to it.
How did you like the five episodes so far?

[imdaman99]

I have to watch the 5th but I'm all in :rockon:

Love me some Batman, even though this has less to do with him than everyone else in the Gotham world. I'm not sure how I feel about Catwoman being there to see his parents die though. But everything else is awesome. Including the hot chicks making out :pimp:

[SexSymbol]

Jada Pinkett Smith just looks so ****ing amazing in this show

[ZeN]

It's a bad show that hopefully will get better. The direction, pace, and acting/dialog is beyond mediocre. They have been trying to improve those things from episode to episode but they are still very behind.

[SexSymbol]

It's a bad show that hopefully will get better. The direction, pace, and acting/dialog is beyond mediocre. They have been trying to improve those things from episode to episode but they are still very behind.
Penguin's, Gordon's and Fish's acting are beyond great, dunno what you're talking about.
Even Bruce is incredibly good for a child actor.
Alfred kinda sucks, and cat's acting isn't that great too, so it definitely has ways to go to be at the TWD level, but hey, this show is definitely not "bad"

[ZeN]

Penguin's, Gordon's and Fish's acting are beyond great, dunno what you're talking about.
Even Bruce is incredibly good for a child actor.
Alfred kinda sucks, and cat's acting isn't that great too, so it definitely has ways to go to be at the TWD level, but hey, this show is definitely not "bad"
The show is in fact a bad one if we're judging on a curve.

I agree with you that Alfred is the worst out of the bunch.

I see you brought up TWD.. Which means we're not even having the same conversation.

[rezznor]

Jada Pinkett Smith just looks so ****ing amazing in this show
not impressed with this show so far. reminds me of how s.h.i.e.l.d started off slow and boring.

and jada looks old as **** now, dunno what happened to her.

[Rodmantheman]

What does you guys think about The Flash TV show?

[Droid101]

Premise sounded stupid as hell so I didn't watch.

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

I am actually loving this show. I like Penguin's character. He might be the most interesting character on television right now, imo.
Ed Nigma is "fascinating" (he always says that when he sees something bad happen) and I'm curious if any casual Batman fan knows who he really is. I recognized the name immediately in the first episode.
Cat's character has been boring. I think the actress sucks. She's the only 'meh' actor to me.
I hope this show goes on for a while. It'd be interesting how they'd start off Batman's start, different from the Nolan movies.

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

What does you guys think about The Flash TV show?

I'm trying to get into it, but they keep making references to The Arrow show, which I can't watch because of how corny it is.
I hated that in the very first episode of The Flash, the main character meets The Arrow's main character without any background story on how the hell they know each other.
I'm gonna give this show at least this season to keep me interested. If it doesn't pick up, I'm not watching its 2nd season.

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

The Flash is a better show than Gotham. Although they are two completely different type of shows. To like The Flash you gotta be into camp and just having a quick fun time with kitsch.

I can't take your opinion seriously about this topic.

[FatComputerNerd]

I'm trying to get into it, but they keep making references to The Arrow show, which I can't watch because of how corny it is.
I hated that in the very first episode of The Flash, the main character meets The Arrow's main character without any background story on how the hell they know each other.
I'm gonna give this show at least this season to keep me interested. If it doesn't pick up, I'm not watching its 2nd season.

That's because you didn't watch Arrow.

Barry appeared on several episodes last season. Of course he wasn't The Flash yet, but he knew Arrow's identity and helped him with some stuff. He's also who told the Arrow to start wearing a mask, hence that line in the first Flash episode...something of an easter egg if you will.

The Flash is called a spinoff of Arrow for a reason. =)

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

That's because you didn't watch Arrow.

Barry appeared on several episodes last season. It's called a spinoff for a reason. =)

Thanks for the info.

I might try to watch The Arrow. I just couldn't get into it. The acting was lame. It reminded me of just a superhero version of something like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Dawson's Creek, y'know?

[FatComputerNerd]

Thanks for the info.

I might try to watch The Arrow. I just couldn't get into it. The acting was lame. It reminded me of just a superhero version of something like Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Dawson's Creek, y'know?

Ya. You should give it a second go. It definitely started out a bit that way but gets much better.

Keep in mind it is a CW show though. If you're expecting GOT or BB type of writing/quality you will be disappointed.

[9512]

Is the Gotham show connected with the Flash and Arrow in the same universe?

[AI Thornton]

Na na na na na na na na BATMAN!

[embersyc]

I want to like Gotham, really, but so far it has just been extremely mediocre.

Far too much of Gordon checking in on young Bruce.

The police department is cartoonishly corrupt. It goes way beyond believable.

We've pretty much had every single major batman villain exposed so far... aren't they gonna all be old farts by time Bruce comes of age?

[ROCSteady]

Just watched the 4th episode, wasn't that interesting. Downgrade.

Sup with the focus on lesbianism? Seems like a writer's personal choice rather than something to benefit the story

Show is a tad disappointing so far.

[nzamcdza]

Really unimpressed with Gotham, had such high hopes bit think it is awful.

Hate that they made it a procedural.

They whole thing is contrived and not believable in the slightest. The tone is all wrong. Some of the acting (Jada especially) is horrendously bad.

[BigBoss]

The show is growing on me based on the art direction and Bruce's scene. But they're doing too much too soon. They're introducing Harvey Dent in episode 7 or 8.

Why the hell does Alfred sound like the crocodile hunter?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Have watched all the episodes and can say I am hooked. Gotham has lived up to the hype.

[dunksby]

No signs of improvement so far... "What's altruism?" cracked me up though :lol

[BigBoss]

Have watched all the episodes and can say I am hooked. Gotham has lived up to the hype.


Slow down buddy. It hasn't lived up to the hype.

I had a bad feeling about Gotham when they marketed the hell out of it so soon. It just set high expectations and the premiere fell flat. It's like they wanted to share what they've created so far with the world that they lost focus on the big picture. Reveal the show one bit at a time. Don't have Catwoman, Poison Ivy, Riddler, Bruce, Gordon ALL in the first episode or introduce Scarecrow and Harvey Dent in season 1. I can go on, but this is the problem with the show and why they won't reach the finish line.

Look. They're introducing too many Batman villians for seasons 1. Slow it down and develop your core characters otherwise all the fan service stuff will get stale and you got nothing else to fall back on.

[FatComputerNerd]

Gotham has really started to get good IMO.

Love the guy who plays Penguin. He does such a good job of coming across as creepy.

[ZeN]

Its crap, crap, crap..

[Practice?]

Gotham has really started to get good IMO.

Love the guy who plays Penguin. He does such a good job of coming across as creepy.

It has a good balance of cheese and serious. Penguin really is by far the best character though.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I'm totally hooked on Gotham.

[SexSymbol]

It got so good.
I totally changed my opinion on alfred, he's awesome.
Everybody stepped up their acting, the writing has been much improved.
It's like day and night since the first episode.

[jamal99]

It's okay, nothing special imo.

Alfred is definitely badass tho.

[gts]

Gotham has really started to get good IMO.

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It's a good show.. much better than i thought it would be

[hateraid]

SPOILER


Question about season 1 finale for the Batman fanatics. I though Maroni was a big part of the Batman storyline. Why'd they kill him off? Is the story arch changing?
Also early on, I thought the Red Hood Gang was Joker's gang. Where was Jack Napier?

[SexSymbol]

SPOILER


Question about season 1 finale for the Batman fanatics. I though Maroni was a big part of the Batman storyline. Why'd they kill him off? Is the story arch changing?
Also early on, I thought the Red Hood Gang was Joker's gang. Where was Jack Napier?
They change quite a bit of things, fish isn't a real character. They're not doing it by the comic book, and that's great, comic book stuff is usually lame and already done, it's fine that they add stuff and twists of their own.
The finale was great!

[Legends66NBA7]

SPOILER


Question about season 1 finale for Batman fanatics. I though Maroni was a big part of the Batman storyline. Why'd they kill him off? Is the story arch changing?
Also early on, I thought the Red Hood Gang was Joker's gang. Where was Jack Napier?

Maroni was a big part of shaping Harvey Dent into Two-Face. He was also supposed to take over for Falcone. Different storyline now, I guess.

[hateraid]

They change quite a bit of things, fish isn't a real character. They're not doing it by the comic book, and that's great, comic book stuff is usually lame and already done, it's fine that they add stuff and twists of their own.
The finale was great!
I knew Fish wasn't a character from the comics. I knew there were some character changes. Ivy is not Poison Ivy. Alfred is a total badass. Penguin is not a midget. Nygma doesn't work for Wayne Enterprise. Those aren't huge changes. The killing of Maroni threw me off. It changes the whole story arch of Batman.
But this has changed into one of my favorite programs

[highwhey]

I'm still wondering what year is the show supposed to be in?

[Rockets(T-mac)]

I'm thinking of marathoning through this. Worth it? From what I've read, it gets better as the season progresses.

[sundizz]

I'm thinking of marathoning through this. Worth it? From what I've read, it gets better as the season progresses.

It is not really a "marathoning" show IMO (not like Daredevil). Each episode is good and interesting, but you don't feel like you have to watch the next episode right away. Not saying that makes it better or worse, but it is more like a regular sitcom as in each episode has enough going on.

[Rockets(T-mac)]

It is not really a "marathoning" show IMO (not like Daredevil). Each episode is good and interesting, but you don't feel like you have to watch the next episode right away. Not saying that makes it better or worse, but it is more like a regular sitcom as in each episode has enough going on.Hmm, ok I'll try to space it out then. Although I was only going to marathon it because I don't have much else to watch right now.

[jimmybball]

Fish Mooney is a terrible character. I like most of the others though.

[SexSymbol]

I'm still wondering what year is the show supposed to be in?
It's a mix between 1980s and 2010s. It doesn't have a definitive year to say.

[hateraid]

It is not really a "marathoning" show IMO (not like Daredevil). Each episode is good and interesting, but you don't feel like you have to watch the next episode right away. Not saying that makes it better or worse, but it is more like a regular sitcom as in each episode has enough going on.
I would disagree. The character development of Penguin, Bruce, and rise of the crime syndicates require you to watch it in succession. Missing one can throw off that storyline. They don't cliffhanger as much as Daredevil although the last 3 or 4 episodes directly lead to the next one.

[zoom17]

Daredevil>Flash>AOS>Arrow>>>>Gotham.

[hateraid]

Fish Mooney is a terrible character. I like most of the others though.
Yeah, he character is great, Jada Smith isn't. Watching Jada try and be evil just doesn't fit.

[hateraid]

Daredevil>Flash>AOS>Arrow>>>>Gotham.
Penguin and Alfred are much more interesting characters than anyone in the other shows

[FatComputerNerd]

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