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SCdac

10-28-2014, 12:58 PM

ISH: Where you can only talk about A... if you mention B, C, D, E, F, G, and H too.

Some of you are obsessed with being politically correct, or being "equal critics", or more specifically obsessed without countering anything OP posts. Don't y'all realize you're basically puppets at that point if you knee-jerkingly disagree with OP or knee-jerkingly play devils advocate? Don't agree with everything he says (who agrees with everybody?... nobody) but dude could post "grass is green" and people would run in here saying "look at this yellow grass! I just proved you wrong buddy hehehe"

Brainwashing at all levels is creepy, obviously, but when you can't have a conversation about a particular brand of brainwashing in particular segments of society in particular regions of the world than we're shooting ourselves in the foot under the guise of fairness and being PC.

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:03 PM

ISH: Where you can only talk about A... if you mention B, C, D, E, F, G, and H too.

Some of you are obsessed with being politically correct, or being "equal critics", or more specifically obsessed without countering anything OP posts. Don't y'all realize you're basically puppets at that point if you knee-jerkingly disagree with OP or knee-jerkingly play devils advocate? Don't agree with everything he says (who agrees with everybody?... nobody) but dude could post "grass is green" and people would run in here saying "look at this yellow grass! I just proved you wrong buddy hehehe"

some of you are obsessed with islam. most people are tired of hearing about it.

Brainwashing at all levels is creepy, obviously, but when you can't have a conversation about a particular brand of brainwashing in particular segments of society in particular regions of the world than we're shooting ourselves in the foot under the guise of fairness and being PC.

speaking of things we are not allowed to have a conversation about on this site - criticism of a certain "chosen people" and/or their country can be a banworthy offense, which kind of makes your complaints about fairness go out the window.

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 01:13 PM

some of you are obsessed with islam. most people are tired of hearing about it.

speaking of things we are not allowed to have a conversation about on this site - criticism of a certain "chosen people" and/or their country can be a banworthy offense, which kind of makes your complaints about fairness go out the window.

It's Islamic State we are mad at. Not Muslims are terrorist.

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 01:15 PM

some of you are obsessed with islam. most people are tired of hearing about it.

speaking of things we are not allowed to have a conversation about on this site - criticism of a certain "chosen people" and/or their country can be a banworthy offense, which kind of makes your complaints about fairness go out the window.

The Islamic State are the scums of the world and they everywhere and recruiting

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:19 PM

It's Islamic State we are mad at. Not Muslims are terrorist.

Random ISHer: its the settlers we are mad at, not all jews are zionists.

Nick Young: gtfo anti semitic scum

then the thread gets deleted and the admins say no more talk about jews and israel

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 01:22 PM

Random ISHer: its the settlers we are mad at, not all jews are zionists.

Nick Young: gtfo anti semitic scum

It's pretty sad that a thread that doesn't have anything to do with peaceful Muslims except a bunch of terrorists and you can come in and defend them.

You are making peaceful Muslims look bad and you wonder why some people group all of them together.:lol

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:23 PM

It's pretty sad that a thread that doesn't have anything to do with peaceful Muslims except a bunch of terrorists and you can come in and defend them.

You are making peaceful Muslims look bad and you wonder why some people group all of them together.:lol

its pretty sad that islam lives rent free inside your tiny little head and you feel the need to make multiple threads per day on the topic

SCdac

10-28-2014, 01:25 PM

some of you are obsessed with islam. most people are tired of hearing about it.

If you're tired of hearing about it, go into another thread, there's dozens and dozens of them, instead of bumping this one :confusedshrug: ... Radicalism within Islam, however widespread or isolated, is a legitimate issue worth talking about and addressing. Much of it is topical, relevant to the here and now... The perpetual deflection and misdirection by the folks "tired of hearing about Islam" just seems juvenile and nearsighted.

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 01:28 PM

its pretty sad that islam lives rent free inside your tiny little head and you feel the need to make multiple threads per day on the topic

Islamic State is. Not all Muslims. What part of that don't you get.

Yes, I am constantly thinking about them especially the crimes against mankind they are committing.

What is your excuse? They are Muslims?

Droid101

10-28-2014, 01:29 PM

#notallchristians
#notallmuslims
#notallislamicstates
#notallluftwaffe
#notalljews

We done here yet? Why is this thread still open?

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 01:32 PM

It is sad how these groups are terrorizing the world and recruiting kids at such a young age. Not along ago I posted a video of kids waging Jihad on westerners.

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:34 PM

If you're tired of hearing about it, go into another thread, there's dozens and dozens of them, instead of bumping this one :confusedshrug: ... Radicalism within Islam, however widespread or isolated, is a legitimate issue worth talking about and addressing. Much of it is topical, relevant to the here and now... The perpetual deflection and misdirection by the folks "tired of hearing about Islam" just seems juvenile and nearsighted.

im not going to just sit here and ignore bruinloves hatemongering anti-islam circlejerks.

zionism within israel, however widespread or isolated, is a legitimate issue worth talking about and addressing. much of it is topical, relevant to the here and now.

SCdac

10-28-2014, 01:38 PM

im not going to just sit here and ignore bruinloves hatemongering anti-islam circlejerks.

zionism within israel, however widespread or isolated, is a legitimate issue worth talking about and addressing. much of it is topical, relevant to the here and now.

Again... deflection... You can't even talk about terrorism or radical Jihad, can you? (ie. what this thread is explicitly about)

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:39 PM

Again... deflection... You can't even talk about terrorism or radical Jihad, can you? (ie. what this thread is explicitly about)

obviously terrorism and radical jihad are bad, this goes without saying. anybody with a fvcking brain knows these things, we dont need 10 threads a day on this topic.

You know what else i cant talk about? zionism or israeli settlers (ie. those threads get immediately deleted)

SCdac

10-28-2014, 01:41 PM

i cant talk about zionism or israeli settlers either (ie. those threads get immediately deleted)

aaaaand you just answered my question... You can't talk about it... Fair enough, you're obsessed with talking about Jews, whatever... Now maybe let people who are choosing to engage in a particular conversation within this thread engage in it? :confusedshrug: ... Or you can continue to cry about it

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:42 PM

aaaaand you just answered my question... You can't talk about it... Fair enough, you're obsessed with talking about Jews, whatever... Now maybe let people who are choosing to engage in a particular conversation within this thread engage in it? :confusedshrug: ... Or you can continue to cry about it

sure.

i am obsessed with talking about jews. you, briunlove and 9er are all obsessed with talking about islam.... we all have our obsessions i suppose.

Patrick Chewing

10-28-2014, 01:43 PM

Again... deflection... You can't even talk about terrorism or radical Jihad, can you? (ie. what this thread is explicitly about)

Nanners is nothing but a shyster. His whole philosophy is to defend the "little guy" which in this case is Islam by deflecting its actual barbarism onto something else. Him and his buddy Droid will bring up other religions to excuse the sins of Islam.

Nanners

10-28-2014, 01:44 PM

Nanners is nothing but a shyster. His whole philosophy is to defend the "little guy" which in this case is Islam by deflecting its actual barbarism onto something else. Him and his buddy Droid will bring up other religions to excuse the sins of the other.

if my philosophy was really to defend the "little guy" i would stand up for racist bigots such as yourself

Droid101

10-28-2014, 01:53 PM

There.
I guess another sick thing in this thread is your reading comprehension skill.

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 05:00 PM

I finally found the time to go over that video and the guy that was talking to the little kid was creepy as hell. You can tell in his eyes that he was lusting for that little boy. He was excited the most when they were playing in the water.

http://s10.postimg.org/5dczbj2fd/Islamic_Love.png

We must kill these scums. Islamic State (ISIS) does not belong in modern society. He's wearing an American brand shades though.

Kblaze8855

10-28-2014, 05:44 PM

Christians brainwashing little kids: video evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Sick.

Yea if not for brainwashing children most religion wouldnt exist anymore.

It would be rather difficult to take someone who never heard the concept of god and teach them as an adult...to believe a lot of the questionable content religions try to pass off as reasonable.

You develop faith young...then their minds are open to more.

I would know...my father was a pastor...and my grandma a sunday school teacher.

Getting them young works an awful lot of the time.

There are some things an adult just isnt gonna accept without some pretreatment.

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 06:11 PM

There.
that's an analogy, not an apology you ****ing retard

Again... deflection... You can't even talk about terrorism or radical Jihad, can you? (ie. what this thread is explicitly about)
at this point i'm not entirely sure you think there's even a difference between terrorism and radical jihad. correct me if i'm wrong but you use them as synonyms on a consistent basis.

9erempiree

10-28-2014, 06:17 PM

that's an analogy, not an apology you ****ing retard

at this point i'm not entirely sure you think there's even a difference between terrorism and radical jihad. correct me if i'm wrong but you use them as synonyms on a consistent basis.

To be fair terrorist comes in different shapes and sizes.

Radical Jihad, for the most part are all terrorists. Find me a radical jihadists that is not a terrorist. Actually you can look up the term Jihadism and it will tell you everything you need to know and the word is synonymous with terrorism.

Stempel, HERB

10-28-2014, 06:20 PM

that's an analogy, not an apology you ****ing retard

:applause: It's about damn time. You've come a long way since your turn modding the NBA forum with Bluth and Bill Cosby.

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 07:27 PM

To be fair terrorist comes in different shapes and sizes.

Radical Jihad, for the most part are all terrorists. Find me a radical jihadists that is not a terrorist. Actually you can look up the term Jihadism and it will tell you everything you need to know and the word is synonymous with terrorism.
which is precisely the point and i'm glad you brought it up

nanners and droid101 were accused by both scdac and patrickchewing (only the former of whom we need pay any heed) of being incapable of discussing islamic terrorism. that clearly isn't true but it isn't even remotely the point.

the accusation was leveled on the basis of their injection of christian/jewish terrorism in a thread clearly devoted to a discussion on islamic terrorism.

what the accusation fails to factor is that they would not need to make such an injection were it not a fact that an overwhelming use of the word terrorism (the exact subject of conversation in this thread only a few days ago) (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356567) restricts itself to the islamic variety. insidehoops provides an easy database of this but just watching or reading the western news, you'll find the same.

of course the familiar response to this claim of unfairness is that it's precisely fair because it's precisely proportional. muslims commit more terrorist atrocities than anyone else, therefore terrorism at least during the present period carries with it an appropriate connotation of islamic. this is not prejudice, it is merely reflective of the facts.

which isn't true. i won't cite any studies here (because nobody ever reads them anyway) but by some estimates, you'll find that in the united states over the past several decades, islamic terrorism accounts for only a tiny percent of all attacks. according to europol, islamic terrorism only made up a fraction of a tiny percent between 2005 and 2007.

so the issue isn't moral equivalency or political correctness or any nonsense of that sort. the issue is that the public discourse blatantly warps the facts to portend that islam is the major source of terrorism, not just around the world but right here at home.

this is why jesusland gets brought up in a sort of balancing act, to correct for this misrepresentation.

Trollsmasher

10-28-2014, 08:02 PM

came into the thread expecting the terrorism apologia from the usual suspects

left satisfied

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 08:17 PM

left satisfied
disagree, the left is never satisfied

Patrick Chewing

10-28-2014, 09:31 PM

that's an analogy, not an apology you ****ing retard

at this point i'm not entirely sure you think there's even a difference between terrorism and radical jihad. correct me if i'm wrong but you use them as synonyms on a consistent basis.

It's the same shit you stupid c*nt.

You excuse the action of one by pointing out the flaws of another. Left-wing tactic extraordinaire to trap the minds of the downright dumb, like you.

Plenty of cowards on this site condemn Islam by condemning Christianity instead.

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 09:39 PM

It's the same shit you stupid c*nt.

You excuse the action of one by pointing out the flaws of another. Left-wing tactic extraordinaire to trap the minds of the downright dumb, like you.

Plenty of cowards on this site condemn Islam by condemning Christianity instead.
good god i hate u so much and u need so many serious lessons in logic it makes me sick u r the worst poster in the history of insidehoops and im disappointed the entire ish community hasnt chased u away with fire and pitchforks u fking naive bigoted ****** ass fk even ur name makes me cringe with disgust fk u

i mean c'mon... ur last sentence doesn't even make sense. do me a sincere favour and read it again for yourself. or maybe its a typo. i shouldn't hound you on typos since theres more than enough foolishness and ignorance in your posts on which to focus.

the point, lest i exhaust my breath by making it too many goddamn times, is that POINTING OUT THE CRIMES OF CRIMINAL A DOES NOT NECESSARILY EXCUSE THE CRIMES OF CRIMINAL B.

terrorism is unjustifiable. every anarchist (u dont know what this means) / liberal (u also dont know what this means) poster in this thread believes that all forms of terrorism, properly defined, is unjustifiable.

in a thread that singles out islam for teaching violent activity, pointing out that christianity engages in the same activities and has for many hundreds of years is NOT an attempt to excuse anything. it is merely pointing out a double standard.

i hate u so much.

LJJ

10-28-2014, 09:43 PM

of course the familiar response to this claim of unfairness is that it's precisely fair because it's precisely proportional. muslims commit more terrorist atrocities than anyone else, therefore terrorism at least during the present period carries with it an appropriate connotation of islamic. this is not prejudice, it is merely reflective of the facts.

which isn't true. i won't cite any studies here (because nobody ever reads them anyway) but by some estimates, you'll find that in the united states over the past several decades, islamic terrorism accounts for only a tiny percent of all attacks. according to europol, islamic terrorism only made up a fraction of a tiny percent between 2005 and 2007.

No no no. That is exactly, 100% true.

Go find me a study where only "a tiny fraction" of the casualties caused by terrorism have anything to do with Islamic terrorism. (globally please, since terrorism is a global issue. Obviously a place where Muslims don't live isn't gonna have a huge amount of Islamic terror)

Please. Waiting......Gonna keep waiting for that one. Open my eyes where the Christian terrorist, completely separate from any involvement from Islam at all, are responsible for thousands upon thousands upon thousands of deaths in recent times.

Patrick Chewing

10-28-2014, 09:46 PM

You may speak for yourself, but there are plenty of apologists/Muslim sympathizers on this site and it's quite sickening.

These are the same losers that talk about Christian violence and the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition in the same sentence. They think they're making a correlation with all religions by mentioning atrocities that happened hundreds of years ago. They're too warped in the head from the invisible PC God that they never even think of a negative thought about Islam.

Typical conversation on ISH:

Poster A: Islam brainwashes their children and here is video proof.

Poster B: All religions brainwash their children.

Poster B completely sidetracks Poster A's initial topic.

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 10:56 PM

Go find me a study where only "a tiny fraction" of the casualties caused by terrorism have anything to do with Islamic terrorism. (globally please, since terrorism is a global issue. Obviously a place where Muslims don't live isn't gonna have a huge amount of Islamic terror)
i wasn't citing casualty figures, i was citing overall incidents. if we are talking about the impact of islamic teaching on individuals, it is only rational to weigh quantity (# of perpetrators) over quality (extent of destruction).

as for your challenge, i will not take it up. my reflections pertained specifically to the western world and its perception of islamic terrorism against the reality of islamic terrorism they experience. i am talking about "they hate our freedoms" & "euro-americans are the infidels" & "middle easterners resent us cuz we're better" & all of that nonsense. i am sure you are familiar.

that may sound like an escape hatch. it is not. i am well aware that if you take into account every violent attack against civilians around the world, majority islam countries would most likely take the lead in both incidents and the casualties resulting from them.

but that is not what i am talking about. most of those are internal ethnic conflicts with extraordinarily long histories that i do not even remotely attribute to islamic doctrine. that a sunni suicide bomber in iraq murders twenty or taliban sympathizers in afghanistan storm a courthouse and murder ten... these are far more complicated subjects that boil down not to religious ideology but to political reality. to engage in that conversation would take far more time. i have wasted that effort far too often on this website. only once with you unfortunately. plus i'm drunk and somewhat incoherent.

the point IS NOT islam vs christianity, right now, who murders more. that's a dumb conversation and i'm not interested in it.

of course if i were interested in it, i could quite easily and significantly point to george bush's proclamation that "god told [him] to end the tyranny in iraq" (thats an exact quote, and not the only one). coming from a self-proclaimed and quite proud born again christian, gw clearly means the holy trinity from the bible. that war killed over a million at latest count. cancer rates in felluja are still through the roof thanks to uranium tipped bullets that are somehow legal. yet if i were to make such a claim that the invasion of iraq was based on the whim of a nutcase fundamentalist who hatched the idea when the supreme creator of the universe whispered it in his ear, you would say "BUT THAT WAS JUST PROPAGANDA".

well my friend, i feel virtually the exact same way about osama bin-laden's proclamations. and that does not mean i think george bush or osama bin-laden are clever manipulators. in fact it is my opinion that they know and wholeheartedly believe everything they are saying. but they nevertheless invoke the great lord to justify their actions.

Open my eyes where the Christian terrorist, completely separate from any involvement from Islam at all, are responsible for thousands upon thousands upon thousands of deaths in recent times.
this challenge however is simple enough to oblige. the lord's resistance army, an example of extreme christian militants if ever there was one, serves as a fine yet horrendous example of the violence that can be inflicted in the name of dear jesus christ. the number of deaths let alone just civilians afflicted by kony and his band of madmen do not stop at "thousands upon thousands" unfortunately.

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 10:59 PM

These are the same losers that talk about Christian violence and the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition in the same sentence. They think they're making a correlation with all religions by mentioning atrocities that happened hundreds of years ago. They're too warped in the head from the invisible PC God that they never even think of a negative thought about Islam.
the fact you think hundreds upon hundreds of years of human history have no bearing on this argument suggests volumes about you lack of understanding that pertains to the very issues we're discussing.

Patrick Chewing

10-28-2014, 11:30 PM

the fact you think hundreds upon hundreds of years of human history have no bearing on this argument suggests volumes about you lack of understanding that pertains to the very issues we're discussing.

In Islam, yes. They've been killing others and each other since the inception of the religion.

Christianity and Judaism?? No! Both religions reformed to not follow a literal translation of their holy books and eventually realized that violence was pretty stupid.

RidonKs

10-28-2014, 11:35 PM

In Islam, yes. They've been killing others and each other since the inception of the religion.

Christianity and Judaism?? No! Both religions reformed to not follow a literal translation of their holy books and eventually realized that violence was pretty stupid.
both of them started 800+ years earlier. in other words, i long freaking time. do you deny this fact or do you feel it is inconsequential? btw many scholars of islam who i am sure you are not well read up on believe that islam is current going through ITS reformation. while judaism and christianity were going through their respective reformations, do you not believe that there were many people claiming they were inherently violent religions much as you proclaim islam to be?

Droid101

10-28-2014, 11:57 PM

both of them started 800+ years earlier. in other words, i long freaking time. do you deny this fact or do you feel it is inconsequential? btw many scholars of islam who i am sure you are not well read up on believe that islam is current going through ITS reformation. while judaism and christianity were going through their respective reformations, do you not believe that there were many people claiming they were inherently violent religions much as you proclaim islam to be?
He hasn't read up on shit. He knows literal shit, and is a piece of shit.

He doesn't understand that if you study history, you can learn from it and how to change the future. Why did Christians and Catholics perform their atrocities hundreds of years ago, in the name of the Bible? What made them change their ways? Perhaps the answer to that can answer to current atrocities done in the name of the Qur'an.

dunksby

10-29-2014, 04:16 AM

You waste your time arguing while Nick Young collects that Mossad paycheck.

tomtucker

10-29-2014, 05:28 AM

ISH is a Liberal/Anarchist hangout, OP.

No one will see the big picture here and address the 800-pound gorilla in the room. That Islam is nothing more than a death cult disguised as a false religion. It's founder, Mohammed, was nothing more than a psychotic murderous pedophile.

all true.........only thing worse, is the scum politicians that let these bastards into europe, such traitors and liars

Patrick Chewing

10-29-2014, 09:21 AM

both of them started 800+ years earlier. in other words, i long freaking time. do you deny this fact or do you feel it is inconsequential? btw many scholars of islam who i am sure you are not well read up on believe that islam is current going through ITS reformation. while judaism and christianity were going through their respective reformations, do you not believe that there were many people claiming they were inherently violent religions much as you proclaim islam to be?

I love how you Libs change the storyline to always fit your narrative.

We're not debating whether Islam is reforming, is about to reform, or will reform. My argument is that slimy bastards like you and Droid love to bring other religions into the picture while murderous Islam seems to get a free pass. If they reform, great! I'm all for it, but be consistent and don't presume to tell me that both the other religions had a head start and that we all should sit idly by until Islam finally gets it. Muslims were intelligent. They were Mathematicians, scholars, you name it. Then it all went to shit. They still live in their backwards, barbaric world indoctrinating their oppressive beliefs upon their youth.

Dresta

10-29-2014, 09:26 AM

Even if Islam ceased to exist, the countries who were formally Muslim would still go around doing what they do now. Its not only religion that breeds violence. Its human nature. Even if you took religion away, people would still find other excuses to fight for land/resources/influence etc.

Christian countries who have long since swayed away from the teachings of the bible are among the most murderous regimes on the planet in the last 100 years (Unites States/Britain/France/Germany/Russia). Even countries with Buddhist backgrounds like China/Cambodia etc who no longer follow strict Buddhist Doctrine have killed MILLIONS more that Islamic countries.

You cant even compare the damage and destruction done to the world between "Christian" nations and "Muslim" nations.
Yeah, that's right: a divine doctrine of conquest based on personal subjugation, that is believed to be true by something like a billion people, has no influence on the world and its inhabitants whatsoever. Mohammed would still have become the first caliph (winning an empire with iron and blood) and ISIS would be parading through the Middle East, attracting muslims from all around the world to fight for the cause, to establish another caliphate and behead the unbelievers - all this would have happened exactly the same without the existence of Islam!! Seriously, what a ****ing idiotic thing to say.

Aggregating historical totals and hysterically declaring that 'Christian countries have killed more than muslim countries' is a completely pointless and idiotic exercise considering Christianity poses zero threat to modern civilisation and the luxuries it provides you with (and that you have no appreciation of, despite incessantly using them). You whine about murderous Western regimes, but they have all the power (enough to establish a totalitarian world order btw) due to the fact that they discarded the shackles of their religiosity, whereas the Middle-East remained steeped in retrogressive religious stupidity. If these fanatical islamic regimes (or ISIS) had the power of the United States, then we'd all be Islamic, apostasy would be punishable by death worldwide, and the same could be said of blasphemy, which is actually becoming illegal anyway, due mostly to Islamic pulling power.

I could make a long list of intelligent and valuable individuals who'd be dead by now, if say, somewhere like Iran had the power of the United States over the last 30 years. Not that many of these people don't already live in fear for their lives or have already been gutted in the street like Theo van Gogh (only a few roads down from where i live now, actually).

Patrick Chewing

10-29-2014, 09:41 AM

A lot of terrible regimes on that list that the U.S. has bombed. A lot of regimes that never became Hitler/Germany version 2 thankfully.

Blue&Orange

10-29-2014, 09:48 AM

I Muslims were intelligent. They were Mathematicians, scholars, you name it. Then it all went to shit. They still live in their backwards, barbaric world indoctrinating their oppressive beliefs upon their youth.
Yes they were until Christians invaded their lands. I don't know maybe if you stop invading their lands, disrespect their culture and kill their mothers and fathers maybe they will go back to be mathematicians. Ever thought about that you redneck stupid prick.

Aggregating historical totals and hysterically declaring that 'Christian countries have killed more than muslim countries' is a completely pointless and idiotic exercise considering Christianity poses zero threat to modern civilisation.
i remember a bunch of Christian backwards idiots that were elected a few years ago that made their holy war under false pretenses, the mythic Iraq weapons of mass destructions. I remember how Christians continue to support the slow annihilation of the Palestinians.

But yes i agree with you, it really annoys me also how hysterically people keep talking about the holocaust and the atrocities of the Nazi people. They pose no threat to modern society, let just forget about it because talking about it might be uncomfortable to some people :roll:

Dresta

10-29-2014, 10:00 AM

And I could give you a list comparing the death and carnage created by the United States and Iran the last 50 years. Judging by the comments in this thread and the facts, most people would assume America is the strict dangerous Islamic country

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ir50221397.jpg
I'm glad to see you get your political views and opinions from idiotic and context-less internet memes of the type generally spread by 9/11 tinfoil wearing conspiracy-theorists. I mean, i knew that you weren't worth taking seriously beforehand, but this confirms it nicely.

It's also pretty obvious that the Cold War foreign policy doctrine of realpolitik should be held entirely separate from a foreign policy based on the concept of the expansion of democracy and of American values (for starters: the former is a right-wing approach, whereas the letter is a leftist one, and always has been). You cannot aggregate the totals of two mutually opposed entities and blame them on a single country (that somehow assumes all moral culpability and blame). It's like me blaming the contemporary German for nazism and Marxism at the same time.

These policies contradict those of the past, so to blame them all on the nebulous entity of the 'United States' as if they are all a consequence of the same thing, is again, idiotic, and also quite representative of your incessant need to generalise and to ignore context or circumstance, or your refusal to accept the reality that some people are going to die no matter what you do.

Dresta

10-29-2014, 10:16 AM

i remember a bunch of Christian backwards idiots that were elected a few years ago that made their holy war under false pretenses, the mythic Iraq weapons of mass destructions. I remember how Christians continue to support the slow annihilation of the Palestinians.

But yes i agree with you, it really annoys me also how hysterically people keep talking about the holocaust and the atrocities of the Nazi people. They pose no threat to modern society, let just forget about it because talking about it might be uncomfortable to some people :roll:
Your first paragraph alludes to something that has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity; seriously, what the **** are you blabbering about there? One minute the Iraq war was a war over oil and geopolitical control, the next it is a Christian holy crusade :lol. Likewise, 'Christians' are supporting the slow annihilation of a people that are growing in population, and will constitute a majority in the near future ('slow annihilation' :roll:).

Who are the 'nazi people' may i ask? Nazism is an ideology (one that no longer has any real power, nor will it be allowed power anytime in the near future) just like Islam, and i agree, they are both inherently destructive and dangerous. How many open professors of Nazism are there in the world today? 1000x less than the number of muslims, a million times? more? And that also doesn't mean that when someone professes Nazism that i don't oppose him, and argue against his ideology, while also pointing out its dangers (just as i do with Islam). One hopes that i could do that much to prevent the spread of a barbarous ideology without being slapped with the label of 'Naziphobia' as if i only oppose Nazis on the basis of their having blond hair and blue eyes.

What a clown you have just shown yourself to be with this nonsense. Stop wasting my time and say something interesting and incisive rather than generic and cliche for once in your life, geez...

Dresta

10-29-2014, 10:45 AM

America is the closest thing the world has had too Hitler/Germany version 2. It should bomb itself.

Also :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: @ you thinking Nazi Germanys atrocities are any worse than Britains in the Bengal (5 million dead), Frances in Indochina and the Meghreb (Millions of dead), Russias throughout the Soviet Union (Millions dead), Chinas during the Great Leap Forward (Millions dead) and of cors Americas (which we dont even need to mention cos everyone knows theyre the worst)
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You seriously have got to grow the **** up, man. All you're doing is buying the bullshit of Cold War, western-hating academics, who despise the system while leeching off it themselves. Your thought is a simple culmination of a general European hatred of America that has persevered over the past half-century. Hence why Kolakowski could predict your idiotic equating of the US with Hitler and Nazism 40-odd years ago:

'It was now anti-americanism which offered itself as a natural continuation of the anti-nazi resistance and which was warmly embraced by many intellectuals as a place for safe and comfortable heroism.'

And the trouble is that most people are not dedicated ideologists. Their shallow minds work in such a way as if they believed that nobody has ever seen capitalism or socialism but only sets of small facts they are incapable of interpreting theoretically. They simply notice that people in some countries are better off than in others, that in some of them production, distribution and services are much more efficient than in others, that here people enjoy civil and human rights and freedom and there they do not. (I should rather say "freedom" in quotation marks, as you do; I do realize that this is a part of the
absolutely obligatory Leftist spelling, to use the word "freedom" in quotation marks when applied to Western Europe; what a "freedom", indeed, enough to burst one's sides with laughter. And we, people without sense of humour, do not laugh.)'

It's not surprising that it falls to people like Kolakowski and others who escaped Soviet domination to defend Western values, as Western academics are so detached from the real world due to their living in ivory tower bubbles. People like Kolakowski have actually lived under despotism and led lives of deprivation and suffering, and so bring a more realistic perspective to the evil 'crimes of the West' that leftist academics are always sentimentally flagellating themselves and their heritage over.

Dresta

10-29-2014, 11:19 AM

Dresta fails to realize that the same hate that he and other members show towards "Islam" and "Muslims" is the same kind of attitude that was prevalent in NAZI Germany against the Jews prior to ww2. Its the same kind of arguments, teachings, bigotry, and hatred that was used against one group copied into a new setting with a new enemy. Americas good at that......First it was the Native Americans, then the British, then the blacks, then the Confederates,then the Spanish/Mexicans, then the Irish, then the Italians, then the blacks again, then the Germans, then the Asians (Japanese), then the Russians, then the Asians again (Chinese, Viets), and now its the Muslims.

The Americans always need someone to hate and kill. When theyre not busy supporting psychos shooting up their children in schools, theyre busy supporting other psychos murdering innocent people overseas. Its in their blood. And then they wonder why events like September 11th happen.
Not only is that first paragraph completely and utterly untrue, but what you are saying in the bolded paragraph is exactly the kind bigotry that was evidenced in Nazi Germany and which led to the intense racial hatred which culminated in unprecedented mass-execution of Jews (and others). Nazism was based on racial hatred, not religious hatred (i'll quote from Mein Kampf to show you):

'Marxism is only the transference, by the Jew, Karl Marx, of a philosophical attitude . . . into the form of a definite political creed . . . And all this in the service of his race . . . Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews.'

That is, it's 'in their blood' so-to-speak, and hence why it was justifiable to unload trains full of children straight into the gas chambers: because they were all corrupted to the bone, in their genetics and DNA, from birth, and thus they must all be exterminated. Nor did this racial hatred extend only to Jews: under National Socialism, any ethnic German could straight up murder any ethnic Pole and it be legal. My own family members grew up under the exposure of Nazi race-hatred in Warsaw, experienced it first hand, and to compare the dislike of Islamic ideology to this is a disgusting and disgraceful thing to do. Even the title of this thread shows how wrong you are: it is complaining about the indoctrination of Arab children by barbarous ideals, not that Arabs are naturally evil and need to be killed - he is arguing that it is wrong to indoctrinate little kids, not that arab kids are little evil mini-satans bent on ruling the world.

The only person in here espousing racial ideas similar to Hitler appears to be you. You've just exposed yourself as a hateful racist - 'its in their blood' is the mother of all racist phrases from time immemorial, and is in fact, the go-to ideological cliche whenever a people attempts to commit genocide. Thanks for adding to this while trying to claim the moral high ground.

It's also classically unscientific and fatuous of you: Americans don't share 'blood' and the American populace is one of the most genetically heterogenous on the planet (hence lots of different blood you thick racist ****).

Patrick Chewing

10-29-2014, 02:03 PM

Yes they were until Christians invaded their lands. I don't know maybe if you stop invading their lands, disrespect their culture and kill their mothers and fathers maybe they will go back to be mathematicians. Ever thought about that you redneck stupid prick.

How old are you to be so gullible to fall for some Pro-Islamist/Liberal talking point like that?? I'm ashamed you're a Knicks fan too. Probably think Spike Lee is a good Knicks fan too.

More Muslims are killed by other Muslims than any other nation combined. So again, don't be so gullible to fall for a Ben Affleck talking point which is basically the same worthless crap you just said.

And what constitutes being a 'redneck stupid prick'? Someone you don't agree with?

Grow up, kid.